Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2020 - Race

[jgonzalesm6]

Last race of the year. Who will end up in 3rd place in the WCC.

[wisepie]

I imagine it will be RP, and I'm not hopeful Charles will keep P6 in the WDC, with a good strategy we will keep Alpha Tauri at bay in the CWC, the end of this season will be a relief for us all! Forza to our ragazzi, anyway.

[tifosi1993]

:ferrarifl

[MSC Fan]

Forza Charles. Forza Sebastian.

[stefa]

Drama queen full on!

[jgonzalesm6]

Why did'nt Ferrari pit their cars under the safety car???

[ntukza]

Why did'nt Ferrari pit their cars under the safety car???

They should have pitted at least one of them. Questionable strategy call once again.

[Hornet]

I can understand that Vettel is on the hards, too early to pit.
But i cant see why we didnt pit Charles

[stefa]

?!

[stefa]

I can understand that Vettel is on the hards, too early to pit.
But i cant see why we didnt pit Charles

How come?!? How come they always mess up something!!!!

[ntukza]

Useless. Are we making any changes in our strategy department for 2021? If not, what's the point.

[Schumiklub]

Charles going backwards like a stone.

[stefa]

Another great performance from Ferrari pit wall!

[stefa]

And now, DEAD LAST!!!

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc pits on lap 23 for hards.....pit stop time 3.1sec.

[ntukza]

This kind of thing worries me more than the performance of the car and engine. Theoretically you can always build a better car/engine, but if your team is a bunch of losers then there's no hope.

[stefa]

LH, just zip it up!!!

[stefa]

Stroll is useless

[stefa]

24 more laps till the end of this year suffering

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc is over track limits threshold....next 1 will be a penalty.

[jgonzalesm6]

Stroll is useless

yep...

[jgonzalesm6]

Vettel pits on Lap 36 for mediums.....pit stop time 3.2sec......jeez

[JChan]

Vettel pits on Lap 36 for mediums.....pit stop time 3.2sec......jeez

Bawi tayo next year

[jgonzalesm6]

Bawi tayo next year

snafu

[stefa]

BW flag for CL track limits

[Schumiklub]

So, getting lapped one last time this year. I’m happy it’s finally over.

[tifosi1993]

A few more laps and we can finally say goodbye to this season.

[nani_s23]

So again Double non-point finish. Glad that it’s the end.

Next year all eyes on Mattia Binotto & his team. If they don’t provide good enough car to Leclerc, it will be pathetic season again as mclaren going to Merc engines/ Aston martin/ Renault all are improving.

[stefa]

I said goodbye after first race

[stefa]

Than God it is finished

[jgonzalesm6]

Congrats Max...job well done.

[tifosi1993]

Congrats to Max...utterly dominant performance. He and Charles are the future of this sport.

Good bye 2020, bring on 2021

[Kyss4k]

I don't know what to say... It's finally over I guess.

[nani_s23]

Waiting for winter testing...!!

[Aziz]

Waiting for winter testing...!!

Long way till March

[wisepie]

Thank God that's over, not pitting Charles under the SC was a mistake but probably wouldn't have made any difference, another embarrassing and painful race. Charles also dropped to P8 in WDC. Arrivederci F1 2020 finalmente.:-s

[nani_s23]

Long way till March

Nothing else to do till then... except waiting for rumours & all.

[nani_s23]

Thanks God that's over, not pitting Charles under the SC was a mistake but probably wouldn't have made any difference, another embarrassing and painful race.:-E

Yup doesn’t make any difference. Car & team lacks everything except drivers.
Race pace/quali/Pit crew/Strategy, Don’t know how these will be addressed next year.

[nani_s23]

Congrats to Mclaren team for finishing Top3 in WCC. They’ve got good car & drivers.

[paolo lalli]

RIP SEASON 2020 FOR FERRARI ITS BEEN A SHOCKER.

[ntukza]

I said goodbye after first race

No you didn't. You were here throughout.

[ntukza]

Decent weekend for Alex. It might just save his seat. I would still love to see Perez in that car but unfortunately it's not RB's responsibility to save his career.

[tifosi1993]

Thank God that's over, not pitting Charles under the SC was a mistake but probably wouldn't have made any difference, another embarrassing and painful race. Charles also dropped to P8 in WDC. Arrivederci F1 2020 finalmente.:-s

For once, I think it was the right call. It was lap 9, and we were on hards and mediums. Of course, giving Vettel the team order to over here like Reanult did with Ocon and Ricciardo, would've been optimal. But Vettel isn't Ricciardo.

Charles got stuck behind Vettel, that was the only bad situation. The strategy call was fine.

[ntukza]

The season is finally over. Plenty of changes to look forward to look forward to in terms of driver lineups. I really hope we turn up with a potential race winner.

[MSC Fan]

This season has been embarrassing. We've been humiliated as cheaters and beaten by lesser drivers. I hope Maranello has been enraged enough to work ten times harder.

[darkchild]

Wow...am I glad this season is finally over. WDC hopes rest on 2022, but I hope that next year we are in top 3, we cannot be lower then this that is for sure.

As for the race, boringfest not seen in a long time. Vettel drove his race and didn't give in to Charles, would be bad to call strat call to let him go anyway, its last race we look bad anyway.

[330 p4]

So happy it's 021 although do t will be close to Merc will be nice to be ahead of all the rubbish teams Ferrari had to suffer to this year.over and that stupid engine rule can go with it. Should be much better 2

[chinmay]

Wow...am I glad this season is finally over. WDC hopes rest on 2022, but I hope that next year we are in top 3, we cannot be lower then this that is for sure.

As for the race, boringfest not seen in a long time. Vettel drove his race and didn't give in to Charles, would be bad to call strat call to let him go anyway, its last race we look bad anyway.

McLaren with Mercedes engine are strong contenders for P2. P3 looks tough, P4 may be reasonable.

[stefa]

No you didn't. You were here throughout.

What does that have to do with anything?!?!?!
I was here for almost every race, but I said good bye after first race to any hope of doing anything this season!!!

[Hornet]

For me, the most unfortunate take away from this season is this.
As Vettel leaves Ferrari today, we are even further away from being a winning team than we did when Alonso left Ferrari.

I hope we can somehow find a fix for the engine, as we wait for the new cars in 2022. As I understand, the engine will be freeze soon, and a new formula wont be introduced anytime soon.
So if we can't fix our engine by 2022, the new aero regulation may not even save us.

That said, this year I really enjoy watching F1 going to tracks that wasn't supposed to be on the schedule. Loved watching modern F1 racing in Imola
We owe a huge thanks to all the people who managed to make these 17 races happen in the middle of a global pandemic

[Brembo]

Stroll is useless

Stroll finished in the points. I wished that our drivers would have come out that useless in the points at least. He finished the season with 75 points Our 4x WDC guy 33 points. Did you mean Stroll to be useless to Ferrari? :rotfl

[Nick Singer]

Jesus wept! 13th and 14th in a race duller than most - livened up only by the Mercs NOT winning.

LEC must be wondering why he signed a long-term deal.
VET must be delighted to get out.
SAI must be wondering why he's signed - and is leaving the McMowers just as they find their mojo.
PER must be sad that a garbage driver like STR gets to stay in F1 whilst he's in theory without a drive.

Ferrari could save a fortune in salaries if we just signed GRO and STR then, if and when we EVER built a top car, we could buy some proper drivers! #FedUp #Angry

[jgonzalesm6]

McLaren with Mercedes engine are strong contenders for P2. P3 looks tough, P4 may be reasonable.

Mercedes P1 and P2

RedBull P3.....and possibly P4

Mclaren P5 or P4 and P6 or P5

Aston Martin P6 and P7

the drivers from RedBull, Aston Martin, and Mclaren will be fighting for those positions--> p4 thru P7

What's reasonable is P8 for Leclerc........and I stress reasonable IF Gasly pulls off another stellar year like he did in 2020.

[Bikus]

Last race of the year. Who will end up in 3rd place in the WCC.

McLaren !

:-D

[stefa]

Jesus wept! 13th and 14th in a race duller than most - livened up only by the Mercs NOT winning.

LEC must be wondering why he signed a long-term deal.
VET must be delighted to get out.
SAI must be wondering why he's signed - and is leaving the McMowers just as they find their mojo.
PER must be sad that a garbage driver like STR gets to stay in F1 whilst he's in theory without a drive.

Ferrari could save a fortune in salaries if we just signed GRO and STR then, if and when we EVER built a top car, we could buy some proper drivers! #FedUp #Angry

Every single word :thumb:clap

[jgonzalesm6]

Stroll finished in the points. I wished that our drivers would have come out that useless in the points at least. He finished the season with 75 points Our 4x WDC guy 33 points. Did you mean Stroll to be useless to Ferrari? :rotfl

He's useless....he does'nt race....he drives an F1 when he's in an F1 car.....as opposed to say like his team-mate or like Gasly...whom Stroll tied with in the WDC standings.....provided Stroll had 7 DNF's in the season (mechanical, Covid, spun-out, got taken out...).

[jgonzalesm6]

McLaren !

:-D

yep.....Racing Point got penalized for copying-->15pts deduction from the WCC

Not to mention Strolls 7 DNF's and Perez's 4 DNF's

The difference between Mclaren and Racing Point (who ended up 4th in the WCC) was 7pts.

The whole team is to blame for Racing Points not making it 3rd in the WCC standings.....although a pecentage bears more than others.

[Bikus]

Just like your signature said .

[SilverSpeed]

Good riddance 2020!

Glad this season over over.

[jgonzalesm6]

LEC must be wondering why he signed a long-term deal.
VET must be delighted to get out.
SAI must be wondering why he's signed - and is leaving the McMowers just as they find their mojo.
PER must be sad that a garbage driver like STR gets to stay in F1 whilst he's in theory without a drive.



agreed.....but driving for Ferrari and not winning with Ferrari carries more prestige I guess.......[smh]

[bolded area] Stroll is GUARANTEED an F1 seat as long as daddy is around to fund their hobby....regarldless how below he ranks against past team-mates(Massa, Ocon, Perez).

I'm glad dad is funding their hobby...it keeps more than 400 workers from being unemployed.....it's his idea and partly his and his investors money.

[jgonzalesm6]

So much for 2020

7766

[tifosi1993]

1. The 2020 engine was hastily constructed after the clampdown.
2. No work has been done on the engine the entire season, Ferrari was forced to shut down the factory for 2 months.
3. No in season development allowed.
4. At the beginning the car had too much drag. Ferrari bolted as much dirty downforce as possible, current car was designed for the 2019 engine.
5. The first major upgrade didn't work as expected, so they were forced to take a step back. No meaningful development until Germany.
6. The car was very good in high downforce track. But it was below average on tracks with very long straights and where aero efficiency is key.

Next year is next year. Ferrari is not going to produce another dud of a power unit, they are happy with its progress in the dino. The chassis development was very good as well, they need to maintain the same work flow.

The only but a huge plus point this year: Leclerc's development as a racing driver.

I'm eagerly waiting for next year. Leclerc-Sainz driver lineup is very strong, Charles needs someone who'll push him on track, and Ferrari needs some one who's reliable.

[MSC Fan]

So much for 2020

7766

Finally, the SF1000 where it belongs.

[ferrari1.8t]

1. The 2020 engine was hastily constructed after the clampdown.
2. No work has been done on the engine the entire season, Ferrari was forced to shut down the factory for 2 months.
3. No in season development allowed.
4. At the beginning the car had too much drag. Ferrari bolted as much dirty downforce as possible, current car was designed for the 2019 engine.
5. The first major upgrade didn't work as expected, so they were forced to take a step back. No meaningful development until Germany.
6. The car was very good in high downforce track. But it was below average on tracks with very long straights and where aero efficiency is key.

Next year is next year. Ferrari is not going to produce another dud of a power unit, they are happy with its progress in the dino. The chassis development was very good as well, they need to maintain the same work flow.

The only but a huge plus point this year: Leclerc's development as a racing driver.

I'm eagerly waiting for next year. Leclerc-Sainz driver lineup is very strong, Charles needs someone who'll push him on track, and Ferrari needs some one who's reliable.

I am happy that this season is finally over, however I fear that next year won’t be any different. We may close the gap and get back to battling for 2nd-3rd with our new engine. But let’s not forget this turbo era belongs to Mercedes. I can’t see any team toppling them next year. It was nice to see another team rather than Merc get a win today. However, that’s only because Bottas is useless, Hamilton is still battling Corona, and Merc tuned down the engines for safety. Next year is mercs year again, and unless they sign Russell and give Bottas the boot, lucky number 8 for Hamilton. 2022 is realistically our chance at bringing home a title.

Grazie Seb, Grazie Charles, Grazie Ferrari...

[wisepie]

1. The 2020 engine was hastily constructed after the clampdown.
2. No work has been done on the engine the entire season, Ferrari was forced to shut down the factory for 2 months.
3. No in season development allowed.
4. At the beginning the car had too much drag. Ferrari bolted as much dirty downforce as possible, current car was designed for the 2019 engine.
5. The first major upgrade didn't work as expected, so they were forced to take a step back. No meaningful development until Germany.
6. The car was very good in high downforce track. But it was below average on tracks with very long straights and where aero efficiency is key.

Next year is next year. Ferrari is not going to produce another dud of a power unit, they are happy with its progress in the dino. The chassis development was very good as well, they need to maintain the same work flow.

The only but a huge plus point this year: Leclerc's development as a racing driver.

I'm eagerly waiting for next year. Leclerc-Sainz driver lineup is very strong, Charles needs someone who'll push him on track, and Ferrari needs some one who's reliable.

That's all very well, tifoso, and I agree mostly, but the ICE was 'downgraded' (back to an earlier spec?) after whatever we did 'illegally' last season and then frozen, so it was always going to hurt us, Alfa and Haas. The rest of your list amount to excuses, and granted, some of them have been due to Covid and the associated restrictions in Italy, but Alpha Tauri managed OK. I sincerely hope that Ferrari don't produce another dud and Charles has certainly developed well but is still a little impetuous. I'm not over-excited about Sainz but think he will be an asset to the team. As for today's race and not pitting Charles under the SC, Ferrari wanted track position when others pitted but we didn't have the power to keep them behind on new tyres, so I guess it wouldn't have worked in our favour whatever we did. Both drivers gave their best in what they had, a donkey.:roll

[tifosi1993]

I am happy that this season is finally over, however I fear that next year won’t be any different. We may close the gap and get back to battling for 2nd-3rd with our new engine. But let’s not forget this turbo era belongs to Mercedes. I can’t see any team toppling them next year. It was nice to see another team rather than Merc get a win today. However, that’s only because Bottas is useless, Hamilton is still battling Corona, and Merc tuned down the engines for safety. Next year is mercs year again, and unless they sign Russell and give Bottas the boot, lucky number 8 for Hamilton. 2022 is realistically our chance at bringing home a title.

Grazie Seb, Grazie Charles, Grazie Ferrari...

Guess...we shall see next year. But I don't think believe that next year is going to be another struggle like this one. There were many curtailments upon Ferrari this season, some because of the rules and Ferrari's own doings. But the chassis was pretty good. During the race Ferrari was giving away times in sector 1 and 2, but were very competitive in the sector 3, especially Leclerc. We were the only team who have lost 4 tenths respectively in the sector 1 and 2 compared to last year, but gained 3-4 tenths in the final sector.

I don't see us struggling next year. Not saying we are going to win the championships because that will be foolish, but I do think we will be competitive.

[tifosi1993]

That's all very well, tifoso, and I agree mostly, but the ICE was 'downgraded' (back to an earlier spec?) after whatever we did 'illegally' last season and then frozen, so it was always going to hurt us, Alfa and Haas. The rest of your list amount to excuses, and granted, some of them have been due to Covid and the associated restrictions in Italy, but Alpha Tauri managed OK. I sincerely hope that Ferrari don't produce another dud and Charles has certainly developed well but is still a little impetuous. I'm not over-excited about Sainz but think he will be an asset to the team. As for today's race and not pitting Charles under the SC, Ferrari wanted track position when others pitted but we didn't have the power to keep them behind on new tyres, so I guess it wouldn't have worked in our favour whatever we did. Both drivers gave their best in what they had, a donkey.:roll

It was entirely a new design but hastily put together and never allowed to tough upon. Next year the picture will be completely different, a brand new and proper power unit plus a good chassis.

Charles is a once in a generation talent along with Max, and Sainz is quite solid. Our driver line up for next year is young and healthy.

[paolo lalli]

A lot was against ferrari this year.Without doubt the sf 90 was put together slap happy.Ferrari new these were at best the results for the year, any thing above that was just brilliant.With all being considered with the constraints and limits ferrari did ok.Next year will be a far far better story 100%.

[20000rpm]

While Ferrari would be making progress, it needs to be seen how it compares with other teams. If our progress is similar to what other teams have made, then we would still be battling P5 onwards
I hope Ferrari proves me wrong else it's a repeat of this season, though slightly better.
Next year js Mercedification of F1 grid with their overall share in teams using engines would go to 40%, followed by Ferrari. Ferrari's goal should be to to close the gap as much as possible to merc next season so that by 2022 we are at par or better than them. I know it's wishful thinking... Hybrid engines tech is clearly dominated by Mercedes.

[ntukza]

What does that have to do with anything?!?!?!
I was here for almost every race, but I said good bye after first race to any hope of doing anything this season!!!

The context was "goodbye 2020 season", not goodbye hopes, dreams and fairytales of Ferrari doing something special. No, it was goodbye 2020 season. Context is important. Always.

(We also said goodbye hopes and dreams at the start of the season. Now we're saying goodbye to the actual season itself.)

[patrese86]

I think next year's car has to be and will be much better. The issue is the other teams around us are going to improve. McLaren have a mercedes engine, Renault have Alonso back, Cheating Point will be using s
parts from this year's Merc..so it's still going to be tough.

Hopefully Hamilton and Wolff leave, that'll be a good start.

[stefa]

The context was "goodbye 2020 season", not goodbye hopes, dreams and fairytales of Ferrari doing something special. No, it was goodbye 2020 season. Context is important. Always.

(We also said goodbye hopes and dreams at the start of the season. Now we're saying goodbye to the actual season itself.)

Whatever... It was finished before even started.

[ntukza]

Whatever... It was finished before even started.

In a way you are 100% correct.

[Brembo]

20 more HP and 1 second better pit stops and 2021 will be a competitive year for Ferrari. Charels ; Sainz driving is as good as the other two teams fighting up front.