2021 Pre Season Testing [12-14 March]

[tifosi1993]

SF21 Floor details

https://i.imgur.com/4pxz6LE.jpg

[tifosi1993]

W12

https://i.imgur.com/mdiuDt7.jpg

[jgonzalesm6]

Link

sportsurge.net

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc first lap: 322 km/h in speed trap

[tifosi1993]

Best sectors so far (for those who are interested)

Sector 1: Verstappen 29.769

Sector 2: Leclerc 41.168

Sector 3: Ocon 23.348

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc first lap: 322 km/h in speed trap

324kph for Leclerc through the speed trap
Last season he did 321.9 in qualifying

[jgonzalesm6]

Mercedes trick floor revealed as Bahrain F1 testing starts

Mercedes has revealed the trick floor that it wanted to stay hidden from other teams before the start of Formula 1 testing.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mercedes-trick-floor-revealed-as-bahrain-f1-testing-starts/5692673/

[MSC Fan]

Stream: /watch?v=DLO04Qk8GfY (paste it after youtube.com)

[jgonzalesm6]

They are currently using MSC for Mick but obviously someine did'nt get the memo.

[MSC Fan]

Mercedes of Bottas suffering with a transmission problem.

[stefa]

It is windy in Bahrein

[farid-baku]

It is windy in Bahrein

Please link another banned from youtube

[jgonzalesm6]

Please link another banned from youtube

sportsurge.net

click on the motorsport icon

click on F1

click on F1 testing

pick you feed.....careful because there are alot of pop-ups...ignore them.

[stefa]

Please link another banned from youtube

https://www.streameast.live/formula-1/f1-pre-season-testing-day-1/

[stefa]

CL for now with most laps - 35

[nani_s23]

CL for now with most laps - 35

Good to see we are out & doing the count.

[RicRac]

Quite difficult to gauge where we stand after the first half of today... Car looks good on track, sitting well in the corners, just slow on the straights, so really hoping the engine is on the lowest setting

[nani_s23]

Rear of the car isn't stable yet....!!

[subfire91]

Quite difficult to gauge where we stand after the first half of today... Car looks good on track, sitting well in the corners, just slow on the straights, so really hoping the engine is on the lowest setting

slow on straights my opinion is exaggerated. he did 324km/h on the first half day of testing while doing 321 last year in Q2.

lets see ... a bit early for conclusions

[Forza Rosso]

Did you see the size of our rear wing ?
it's one of the biggest !

[FF1]

What was the fastest straight line speed last year at bahrain in qualifying

[stefa]

Session stopped. Ferrari beside the track.

[stefa]

Session stopped. Ferrari beside the track.

It is resumed

[Schumiklub]

So, engine issues? Dang it. I know it's better in testing than in the race, but still. :(

[nuni]

What was the fastest straight line speed last year at bahrain in qualifying

328Km/H by Daniel Riccardo.

[stefa]

http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7792&stc=1

[Nick Singer]

Mmm..

[Ferrari_Fanatic]

Was it just me or did this site disappear last year?

[Shadowfax84]

Mercedes trick floor revealed as Bahrain F1 testing starts

Mercedes has revealed the trick floor that it wanted to stay hidden from other teams before the start of Formula 1 testing.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mercedes-trick-floor-revealed-as-bahrain-f1-testing-starts/5692673/

Wait. How is this legal? I thought the whole change in rules was to keep the floor as simple & plain as possible to reduce downforce. Please don't tell me the clowns in FIA didn't think of these when they wrote the rules.

[MSC Fan]

Wait. How is this legal? I thought the whole change in rules was to keep the floor as simple & plain as possible to reduce downforce. Please don't tell me the clowns in FIA didn't think of these when they wrote the rules.

Well, it's Mercedes. What do you expect? Everything they do will be considered innovative and ingenious while anything everyone else does is just illegal.

[tifosi1993]

Some meaningless sector times:

Ricciardo: 29.196---40.076---22.919

Gasly: 29.073---39.878---23.136

Verstappen: 29.140---39.849---23.073

Ocon: 29.360---40.213---23.118

Leclerc: 29.316---40.373---23.342

[subfire91]

Any news on the ferrari problem ?

[Grimlock]

Carlos in the car getting ready to come out. Under 2h after the issue during the last session, I think that indicates that it wasn't a full PU write off.

[Grimlock]

Dust storm conditions btw. so limited useful running at this point.

[jgonzalesm6]

AMRF1 "copying" Mercedes floor

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/0rGW4jP2/s6/aston-martin-amr21-floor-detai.jpg

[tifosi1993]

Engine is fired up. Sainz will soon be on track.

[ferrari1.8t]

Well, it's Mercedes. What do you expect? Everything they do will be considered innovative and ingenious while anything everyone else does is just illegal.

Getting pretty obvious that Mercedes writes the rules, gives them to the FIA and makes sure no one else can catch up or innovate themselves (frozen engines, tokens, DAS etc.)

Toto has his hands and assets everywhere, Williams, Aston Martin, Mercedes...he is a very smart man.

[ferrari1.8t]

AMRF1 "copying" Mercedes floor

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/0rGW4jP2/s6/aston-martin-amr21-floor-detai.jpg

Copying or gifted to them from Toto? Complete conflict of interest here...Toto handing designs to his other team to make sure they succeed. When he leaves Merc and takes Hamilton to AM, he will have a winning package.

[330 p4]

Wait. How is this legal? I thought the whole change in rules was to keep the floor as simple & plain as possible to reduce downforce. Please don't tell me the clowns in FIA didn't think of these when they wrote the rules.

You are allowed loads of bits on the floor upto 5cm in height just cannot have slots in the floor.

[stefa]

Sand is all over the track! Visibility is very poor!

[Jax]

Gio is third !!

[FerrariF60]

Gio is third !!

so are we sandbagging then??? or alfa faster than the works team

[FerrariF60]

Gio is third !!

so are we sandbagging then??? or alfa faster than the works team

[Warp]

so are we sandbagging then??? or alfa faster than the works team

Timesheet doesn't mean anything at this point. Hamilton is 9th..

[FerrariF60]

Timesheet doesn't mean anything at this point. Hamilton is 9th..

i know.....just a joke on my side

[Warp]

Wait. How is this legal? I thought the whole change in rules was to keep the floor as simple & plain as possible to reduce downforce. Please don't tell me the clowns in FIA didn't think of these when they wrote the rules.

I think the rules said no slots/cuts.

[MSC Fan]

so are we sandbagging then??? or alfa faster than the works team

It's just not the part of testing where you flex. During the first day, they mostly test for some constant speed laps (for being under the safety car), letting the driver get the feel of the car and some amount of setup flexibility. Since the engines aren't being pushed to their limit and ideal setups haven't been found yet, it'll seem like sandbagging anyway. What I find interesting is, Ferrari already has gained 2-3 km/h DESPITE all those conditions.

[Jax]

so are we sandbagging then??? or alfa faster than the works team

No, but i think it's a good indication, when especially factoring that he was on the hard tire as well. And what even more telling "engine wise" is that on main straight he was toutching 312 kph WITHOUT DRS.

[Jax]

so are we sandbagging then??? or alfa faster than the works team

No, but i think it's a good indication, when especially factoring that he was on the hard tire as well. And what even more telling "engine wise" is that on main straight he was toutching 312 kph WITHOUT DRS.

[Jax]

No, but i think it's a good indication, when especially factoring that he was on the hard tire as well. And what even more telling "engine wise" is that on main straight he was toutching 312 kph WITHOUT DRS.

if u want a video let me know i'll gladly upload it :)

[Jax]

No, but i think it's a good indication, when especially factoring that he was on the hard tire as well. And what even more telling "engine wise" is that on main straight he was toutching 312 kph WITHOUT DRS.

if u want a video let me know i'll gladly upload it :)

[PURE PASSION]

What's the general feedback from on boards, journalists comments etc???
A friend of mine told me that he does see it very stable compared to others ????

[subfire91]

It's just not the part of testing where you flex. During the first day, they mostly test for some constant speed laps (for being under the safety car), letting the driver get the feel of the car and some amount of setup flexibility. Since the engines aren't being pushed to their limit and ideal setups haven't been found yet, it'll seem like sandbagging anyway. What I find interesting is, Ferrari already has gained 2-3 km/h DESPITE all those conditions.

any sreenshot of speedtraps from all teams/ drivers?

[jgonzalesm6]

What's the general feedback from on boards, journalists comments etc???
A friend of mine told me that he does see it very stable compared to others ????

At the moment.

Gasly loves the car
Seb loves the car
Ricciardo loves the car
Max as usual

[tifosi1993]

any sreenshot of speedtraps from all teams/ drivers?

Ver 327
Nor 327
Oco 324
Str 324
Gio 322
Ric 329
Gas 328
Tsu 326
Sai 321
Ham 322
Lec 325
Rai 326
Vet 329
Nis 330
Maz 319
Sch 319
Bot 309

[jgonzalesm6]

Mercedes are having a bad testing day 1 for both drivers.

[ntukza]

Mercedes are having a bad testing day 1 for both drivers.

Don't you just love it! I certainly do. Let's not forget that there are only 3 days of testing this year, not like previous seasons where you can have "issues" and then resolve them in the last three days of Barcelona. These ARE the last 3 days.

[ferrari1.8t]

Mercedes are having a bad testing day 1 for both drivers.

Just caught the last 10 minutes of the session, Hamilton struggling to put a lap together. He came off the track a few times before the VSC.

[ntukza]

I'm not so sure about not reading a lot into today. I mean, there are only three days of testing this year so I'd say today is pretty indicative. It should be, anyway.

[tifosi1993]

116 laps completed. Apart from that one little technical problem, I think we can be reasonably happy with today's program.

[ntukza]

Just caught the last 10 minutes of the session, Hamilton struggling to put a lap together. He came off the track a few times before the VSC.

I also caught the last 10 mins. All I saw was Merc struggling. :-D

[FerrariF60]

Don't you just love it! I certainly do. Let's not forget that there are only 3 days of testing this year, not like previous seasons where you can have "issues" and then resolve them in the last three days of Barcelona. These ARE the last 3 days.

we did have a good day ourselves, if you ignore the engine issue we had in the morning....which i'm still kind of worried about....but like others have said, better in testing than wehn season starts....

as far as Merc having a bad first day, i'm sure they'll bounce back, they always do.....afterall they havent' won all the WCC's since 2014 out of luck....let's not KID ourselves, they prolly still are the team to beat.....and if we can't beat them ourselves.....I SURE AS HECK HOPE MAX DOES.....i can't stand that hamster winning another WDC

[FerrariF60]

Just caught the last 10 minutes of the session, Hamilton struggling to put a lap together. He came off the track a few times before the VSC.

dude, it's all SMOKE AN MIRRORS.......come Q3 he'll take pole im sure.....unelss Max has somethign to say about it, AND I SURE AS HELL HOPE HE DOES......if ain't capable of doing igt

[FerrariF60]

I'm not so sure about not reading a lot into today. I mean, there are only three days of testing this year so I'd say today is pretty indicative. It should be, anyway.

indicative of what??? please do elaborate

[ferrari1.8t]

dude, it's all SMOKE AN MIRRORS.......come Q3 he'll take pole im sure.....unelss Max has somethign to say about it, AND I SURE AS HELL HOPE HE DOES......if ain't capable of doing igt

Ya, Hamilton has been known to cry wolf. Mercedes also always pretends to have engine problems or reliability issues etc. Which always turns out to be fake news to bolster theirs and Hamiltons ego. Lets see how this plays out in the final 2 days of testing!

[jgonzalesm6]

Day 1 lap count per team

Mercedes - 48 laps
Red Bull - 139
McLaren - 91
Aston Martin - 97
Alpine - 129
Ferrari - 116
AlphaTauri - 111
Alfa Romeo - 131
Haas - 85
Williams - 83

[MSC Fan]

I'm not so sure about not reading a lot into today. I mean, there are only three days of testing this year so I'd say today is pretty indicative. It should be, anyway.

No way will Mercedes be that far behind. They definitely seem to have troubles with the gearbox, especially since they messed around with it (used tokens on it). Who knows what their fuel loads were and it is also likely that they didn't come quite close to the ideal setup.

[MSC Fan]

Day 1 lap count per team

Mercedes - 48 laps
Red Bull - 139
McLaren - 91
Aston Martin - 97
Alpine - 129
Ferrari - 116
AlphaTauri - 111
Alfa Romeo - 131
Haas - 85
Williams - 83

Throwing away an entire day of testing for Nissany is ridiculous. It would've increased Russell/Latifi's chances at getting a shot at a points finish by a lot.

[ntukza]

we did have a good day ourselves, if you ignore the engine issue we had in the morning....which i'm still kind of worried about....but like others have said, better in testing than wehn season starts....

as far as Merc having a bad first day, i'm sure they'll bounce back, they always do.....afterall they havent' won all the WCC's since 2014 out of luck....let's not KID ourselves, they prolly still are the team to beat.....and if we can't beat them ourselves.....I SURE AS HECK HOPE MAX DOES.....i can't stand that hamster winning another WDC

My problem is I don't like Max either.

Did we seem to recover from the engine problem in the afternoon or is it hard to tell?

[ntukza]

indicative of what??? please do elaborate

Indicative as in what you see is what you get. No games, no pretence, no sandbagging, because there's simply no time for any of that.

[Warp]

My problem is I don't like Max either.

Did we seem to recover from the engine problem in the afternoon or is it hard to tell?

Very hard to say. Ferrari powered-teams completed the most laps though.

[jgonzalesm6]

Throwing away an entire day of testing for Nissany is ridiculous. It would've increased Russell/Latifi's chances at getting a shot at a points finish by a lot.

Yeah, I'm mystified on the Nissany issue. I'm with you on all fronts.




New

LAP COUNT & KILOMETERS POWER UNIT:

Ferrari (3 teams) - 332 laps - 1796.78 km
Mercedes (4 teams) - 319 - 1726.17 km
Honda (2 teams) - 250 - 1128 km
Alpine (1 team) (Renault) - 129 - 698.15 km



Also, I've noticed no BLM logo on Lewis's 2021 helmet.

[ntukza]

No way will Mercedes be that far behind. They definitely seem to have troubles with the gearbox, especially since they messed around with it (used tokens on it). Who knows what their fuel loads were and it is also likely that they didn't come quite close to the ideal setup.

Lol of course I'm not referring to the times. That would be naive of me. I'm referring to things like stability, reliability, consistency confidence.

[jgonzalesm6]

My problem is I don't like Max either.



Max MORE THAN LIKELY looks to get the Mercedes seat IF Lewis retires after 2021 into 2022.

[ntukza]

Yeah, I'm mystified on the Nissany issue. I'm with you on all fronts.




New

LAP COUNT & KILOMETERS POWER UNIT:

Ferrari (3 teams) - 332 laps - 1796.78 km
Mercedes (4 teams) - 319 - 1726.17 km
Honda (2 teams) - 250 - 1128 km
Alpine (1 team) (Renault) - 129 - 698.15 km



Also, I've noticed no BLM logo on Lewis's 2021 helmet.

Bummer! :-s

[gvera]

My problem is I don't like Max either.

Let's hope Checo beats Max then.

[jgonzalesm6]

Bummer! :-s

I actually like it that Lewis does'nt have the BLM logo. One of the original founders of BLM has condoned the movement of being a Marxist movement on YouTube. Not to mention the BLM movement took in $90 million USD in 2020 and have yet to give it to other BLM factions (whom are asking for money from BLM) in the U.S.


Let's hope Checo beats Max then.

The only way I see Checo beating Max is in the pit stops.....otherwise Checo will be right behind Max on the track. I don't see Checo passing Max on the track nor will Max let that happen.

[ferrari1.8t]

Yeah, I'm mystified on the Nissany issue. I'm with you on all fronts.




New

LAP COUNT & KILOMETERS POWER UNIT:

Ferrari (3 teams) - 332 laps - 1796.78 km
Mercedes (4 teams) - 319 - 1726.17 km
Honda (2 teams) - 250 - 1128 km
Alpine (1 team) (Renault) - 129 - 698.15 km



Also, I've noticed no BLM logo on Lewis's 2021 helmet.

No TV cameras to flaunt it off to and make a story about. Trust me, more stunts will be pulled come official race weekend. I digress, lets keep this thread on Ferrari and testing.

[FerrariF60]

My problem is I don't like Max either.



Believe you me, I don’t like Max either....but if none of our boys can win the WDC then for sure I’m rooting for Max...don’t wanna see Hamster get another easy championship in that Taxi

[ferrari1.8t]

Believe you me, I don’t like Max either....but if none of our boys can win the WDC then for sure I’m rooting for Max...don’t wanna see Hamster get another easy championship in that Taxi

Maybe Ricciardo or Norris can get it done...McLaren has been heading closer to the front in recent years, now they have merc power. You never know. Lets hope Ferrari have found something.....

[FerrariF60]

Maybe Ricciardo or Norris can get it done...McLaren has been heading closer to the front in recent years, now they have merc power. You never know. Lets hope Ferrari have found something.....

That’s all we can do at this moment in time....hope that Ferrari have found something...hope dies last right?? Isn’t that what they say?

[stefa]

Yeah, I'm mystified on the Nissany issue. I'm with you on all fronts.




New

LAP COUNT & KILOMETERS POWER UNIT:

Ferrari (3 teams) - 332 laps - 1796.78 km
Mercedes (4 teams) - 319 - 1726.17 km
Honda (2 teams) - 250 - 1128 km
Alpine (1 team) (Renault) - 129 - 698.15 km



Also, I've noticed no BLM logo on Lewis's 2021 helmet.

I would say nice mileage!

As for the usual clown, I don't give a #$@%!!!

[stefa]

After years of speculation that great RB is working on some kind of magical floor at Ferrari, Mercedes showed it today! Spy gate?! (end of sarcasm) :-D

[Nick Singer]

My sixpence-worth - FWIW..

Can't really tell anything from today. Two more days might mean a bit more. Remember the year we bossed testing then flopped during the season?

Not good for us, not bad for us. (What was LEC's issue, anyone know?)

Fair to say, Mercs will be the team to beat (again) with Mad Max and the McMowers getting closer. ALO will make the Renault (OK, OK.. 'Alpeeen') go quicker than it can.

Hope Seb hands Daddy's Boy his a*** on a plate in the Mercedes 'B' Team.

I look forward to another season of virtue-signalling, race-baiting and general wokeness from The Pineapple-Headed One.

Having been a Ferrari fan since Jody moved from Wolf in 1979, suffered until 2000 and now suffering again, I DO hope we can make a better fist of things this year.

If we make a poor start to the new Formula in 2022, I really may give up..

At least my other team, Norwich City, are giving me a cracker of a season!

#ForzaFerrari!

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc on why his car stopped on track: "We had a small combustion anomaly on the data and just to be sure, we stopped the car. Luckily it was just 10 minutes before the end of the session. It didn't cost us so much time on track."

[WS6TransAm01]

Mercedes are having a bad testing day 1 for both drivers.

And yet, Merc will take pole by a country mile come Q3

[tpe]

Personally, I read a lot in MV time.
I think they got their act together the RBs

[Ferrari312T4]

According to Leclerc the data acquired matches the windtunnel and simulator. That sounds like we finally overcame that issue. Hurray!

[330 p4]

After years of speculation that great RB is working on some kind of magical floor at Ferrari, Mercedes showed it today! Spy gate?! (end of sarcasm) :-D

James Allison robbed the magic floor from Rory Byrnes shed. What a gypsy.

[Brembo]

After Sakhir forget Max; Dan; or any other driver; it's Russell who is up with the best. He just needs a score a point for himself with his Williams and F-1 will belong to him driver wise! I believe Charles and Sainz will do podiums for Ferrari if the HP roomers are true!!

[Silent Bob]

James Allison robbed the magic floor from Rory Byrnes shed. What a gypsy.


Good! It didn't work for us either. Not doing them any wonders right now.

[Noquarter]

7793
Big rear wings on Ferrari powered cars

[FerrariF60]

7793
Big rear wings on Ferrari powered cars

WOW, those are barn doors on the ferrari powered cars including Ferrari....good to see that we still had some decent top speed even with them....saying that the engine is not to shabby

[sxviper698]

Max MORE THAN LIKELY looks to get the Mercedes seat IF Lewis retires after 2021 into 2022.

Do you think when we had a good chance to take a championship with seb and he just couldn't keep it together do you guys think max could have? I don't like is hard words because i would support any driver that is in our cars and it could be MAX or HAM wearing red in the next 1 to 2 years from now! Think of all the secrets they could bring to us. Just my 2 cents from a Ferrari fan.

[dfunk257]

Do you think when we had a good chance to take a championship with seb and he just couldn't keep it together do you guys think max could have? I don't like is hard words because i would support any driver that is in our cars and it could be MAX or HAM wearing red in the next 1 to 2 years from now! Think of all the secrets they could bring to us. Just my 2 cents from a Ferrari fan.

Seb couldnt keep it together? I think you mean Ferrari couldnt give him a good enough car! And when Seb was in a great championship position and needed the team support he didnt get it (Monza 2018). I really dont like it when people blame Seb for the Ferrari failure.

[sxviper698]

Seb couldnt keep it together? I think you mean Ferrari couldnt give him a good enough car! And when Seb was in a great championship position and needed the team support he didnt get it (Monza 2018). I really dont like it when people blame Seb for the Ferrari failure.

I didn't mean it like that sorry! I love Seb he is a mans man and i will watch him this season along with my team! I like all the drivers even when their emotions run their mouths. Lol I meant no disrespect to anyone.

[MSC Fan]

7793
Big rear wings on Ferrari powered cars

The rear wing on the Ferrari look like the sails on a boat. If the SF21 could be 3 km/h faster than SF1000 and 3 km/h off a Merc powered car DESPITE that humongous rear wing, I think the engine packs a serious punch in there.

[jgonzalesm6]

Do you think when we had a good chance to take a championship with seb and he just couldn't keep it together do you guys think max could have? I don't like is hard words because i would support any driver that is in our cars and it could be MAX or HAM wearing red in the next 1 to 2 years from now! Think of all the secrets they could bring to us. Just my 2 cents from a Ferrari fan.


Seb couldnt keep it together? I think you mean Ferrari couldnt give him a good enough car! And when Seb was in a great championship position and needed the team support he didnt get it (Monza 2018). I really dont like it when people blame Seb for the Ferrari failure.


I didn't mean it like that sorry! I love Seb he is a mans man and i will watch him this season along with my team! I like all the drivers even when their emotions run their mouths. Lol I meant no disrespect to anyone.

Seb's problem is adaptability to a "not so good car." When the formula changed in 2014 with RedBull, Seb got beat by Ricciardo AND just like RedBull when Seb went to Ferrari he got beat by Leclerc.

Ricciardo and Leclerc can adapt to the cars when the cars are'nt great.....Seb cannot. Seb needs to be out in the front with a good car, otherwise his "problems" show regardless of how bad the car is.

[ntukza]

Maybe Ricciardo or Norris can get it done...McLaren has been heading closer to the front in recent years, now they have merc power. You never know. Lets hope Ferrari have found something.....

Ricciardo's nonstop giddy smile is bad enough as it is. Norris I feel hasn't earned his stripes yet. So yeah, let's hope Ferrari have found something.

[paolo lalli]

When hamilton retires max will step into the unknown likely to be a mercedes lemon.The mercedes glory days will truely be done and dusted.No 2 year advantage for mercedes next time around.

[ntukza]

Do you think when we had a good chance to take a championship with seb and he just couldn't keep it together do you guys think max could have? I don't like is hard words because i would support any driver that is in our cars and it could be MAX or HAM wearing red in the next 1 to 2 years from now! Think of all the secrets they could bring to us. Just my 2 cents from a Ferrari fan.

We don't need secrets from outside. We need competence from inside.

[nhiepka]

is there any link for watching the testing today?

[MSC Fan]

The green Mercedes seem to have gearbox issues as well.

[Grimlock]

Sky F1 commentary is beyond atrocious, so Hamilton is going along with them Carun Chandhok commenting along the lap going how good the merc was ... only to have him beach it in a gravel trap :lol

[MSC Fan]

Hamilton spins out, session red flagged.

[stefa]

is there any link for watching the testing today?

https://www.streameast.live/formula-1/f1-pre-season-testing-day-2/

[BRP]

You tube is also streaming F1 testing

Hamilton spins out, session red flagged.

[330 p4]

Just to show times are nothing, William's 3rd a few tenths off the pace. Lap times are 3 seconds slower than FP1 times a few months ago. All cars are twitchy due to the wind possibly new floor rules as well.

[darkchild]

RB as well as Mclaren looking very good. Merc all over the place. We are just slow...

Mclaren seems to have found loophole with diffuser, we have gone "aggressive" with new gearbox/suspension yet its much more conventional then Merc/RB. Says it all really...

[ntukza]

I don't get why Mick is abbreviated MSC and not SCH. Every other driver is represented by the first 3 letters of their surname.

[MSC Fan]

I don't get why Mick is abbreviated MSC and not SCH. Every other driver is represented by the first 3 letters of their surname.

I'm going to bet that Gene convinced him for marketing's sake. Gotta milk the nostalgia money.

[330 p4]

I'm going to bet that Gene convinced him for marketing's sake. Gotta milk the nostalgia money.

100% marketing. To really push the marketing MSC should be written in bright green whilst other drivers are in white.

[nani_s23]

So Seb was asked to compare the engines:

"It's certainly different. But I don't make any comparisons, out of respect for the different manufacturers."

[Galvonero]

So Seb was asked to compare the engines:

"It's certainly different. But I don't make any comparisons, out of respect for the different manufacturers."

Nice attitude. Shows respect.:clap:

[PURE PASSION]

The SF21 has not yet given precise indications on its potential, because the Cavallino team is still working to discover its potential. Positive indications come from the greater power of the power unit, but a judgment on the Red is premature: Sainz spun with a nervous rear end. The technicians have managed to open a channel that feeds the flow under the differential, but the right balance has yet to be found.
How much is the Ferrari SF21 worth? For the moment, the Scuderia has not looked for performance on the Red, working hard on understanding the new car: Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz are skimming set-up solutions to find in this phase of study what can be the basis on which to work.

The Spaniard, fifth yesterday, reached third place in the morning making correlations between the medium tires (the yellow one built by Pirelli in Romania and the one without colored band made in Turkey). Carlos blasted a train into a spin on the fast, after making a wide gap due to the annoying oversteer that suddenly emerged.

For now, Ferrari is very covered: the technicians are still discovering its potential. The SF21 wants to get back on top after the 2020 disaster with sixth place in the Constructors' World Championship and the first indications regarding the 056/6 power unit are positive (also confirmed by the customer teams).

Attention is focused on reducing the red's resistance to advancement: at the rear, a great deal of work has been done to regain the downforce that was lost with the cutting of the bottom.

Giorgio Piola's image shows us very clearly the large channel that has opened under the differential which has been raised by 30 mm, less than other solutions that we have been able to observe, for example on Red Bull and Mercedes with more inclined drive shafts.

But at Maranello they went in the right direction following the concepts of the top teams: the geometry of the rear pull rod suspension is new and the engineers are still looking for the right adjustment of the hydraulic control that last year made the rear end very unstable.

The bottom of the SF21 is less "pushed" than Mercedes and Aston Martin: there are no "shells" of the W12, but three flow deviators appeared in the middle of the floor that were not there at the presentation.

There are three vortex generators in front of the rear wheel and there is also a vertical flap on the side of the tire: the Cavallino technicians have placed a "carpet" of Pitot tubes to collect data on the behavior of the car by measuring the air speed in the various points in the Coca Cola area, while in the early morning under the rear axle the usual lights projected on the asphalt by the two laser readers useful for reading the instant height variations, just to discover and analyze what is the behavior of the car in passing from the set-up Rake beaten in corners to the flatter set up on the straight.

In the front of the Rossa, good indications have come from the nose with the narrower nose thanks to the new integration of the deformable structure (not modified) with the cape and the new support pillars of the front wing.

On the frame, on the sides of the air vent of the S-duct, four flow deviators have appeared that generate a down wash effect to feed the air destined for the bottom.

For now, Ferrari cannot yet be judged because it remains a laboratory ...

From Motorsport Italia

[jgonzalesm6]

In the "2021 F1 news/rumors" thread page 16 post 455.....

Mercedes did'nt follow suit but Mclaren did. Mclaren have a rear diffuser with 2 large vanes in the center of the diffuser to create more downforce.

[Kyss4k]

While not reading too much into it, the long run pace is not looking strong at all, compared to Perez, sho is on the same tyres. Just about 1s slower per lap. But weirdly we are doing just 285kmh on the main straight.

[ferrari1.8t]

In the "2021 F1 news/rumors" thread page 16 post 455.....

Mercedes did'nt follow suit but Mclaren did. Mclaren have a rear diffuser with 2 large vanes in the center of the diffuser to create more downforce.

Could this finally be the year we have all been waiting for? Mercedes finally struggling and wont be fastest come Q3? They are still in the garage and have done virtually no meaningful running these past two days. Hamilton was struggling again this morning! :pray

Still cant gage how Ferrari is doing overall....Brundle thinks RedBull and Mclaren look the best this year so far with AlphaTauri 3rd.

[MSC Fan]

While not reading too much into it, the long run pace is not looking strong at all, compared to Perez, sho is on the same tyres. Just about 1s slower per lap. But weirdly we are doing just 285kmh on the main straight.

The engine is turned down plus no DRS. He was in the 310s yesterday even for long run. (based on what I read on reddit, so don't quote me for the exact number)

[330 p4]

While not reading too much into it, the long run pace is not looking strong at all, compared to Perez, sho is on the same tyres. Just about 1s slower per lap. But weirdly we are doing just 285kmh on the main straight.

What was Ferrari top speed on shorter runs from other times in the day?

[MSC Fan]

Man, Buxton makes Crofty sound like Murray Walker. Why is he so dramatic for literally everything?

[ferrari1.8t]

While not reading too much into it, the long run pace is not looking strong at all, compared to Perez, sho is on the same tyres. Just about 1s slower per lap. But weirdly we are doing just 285kmh on the main straight.

I know, very concerning. I hope the engines are tuned down at the moment...

[jgonzalesm6]

Could this finally be the year we have all been waiting for? Mercedes finally struggling and wont be fastest come Q3? They are still in the garage and have done virtually no meaningful running these past two days. Hamilton was struggling again this morning! :pray

Still cant gage how Ferrari is doing overall....Brundle thinks RedBull and Mclaren look the best this year so far with AlphaTauri 3rd.

Regarding Mercedes "woes" in testing. I would'nt read anything into it. They're Mercedes, they bounce back rather quickly. I'm gonna wait a couple of races regarding the teams but Q3 will be a tell-tale sign of where everyone stands.

[subfire91]

I know, very concerning. I hope the engines are tuned down at the moment...

has anyone seen if our drivers used the 8th gear on the straights? from all the onboards today i havent seen them using the 8th gear

[ntukza]

I'm not reading too much into Merc's situation and I'm not going ahead of myself, but so far my prediction of LH not winning the 2021 championship is off to a good start. ;-)

[jgonzalesm6]

In the "2021 F1 news/rumors" thread page 16 post 455.....

Mercedes did'nt follow suit but Mclaren did. Mclaren have a rear diffuser with 2 large vanes in the center of the diffuser to create more downforce.


McLaren’s workaround to surpass 2021's F1 diffuser limits

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclarens-clever-trick-to-get-around-diffuser-limits/5708830/

[ntukza]

While not reading too much into it, the long run pace is not looking strong at all, compared to Perez, sho is on the same tyres. Just about 1s slower per lap. But weirdly we are doing just 285kmh on the main straight.

Yeah, not very positive at the moment. But we're not spending a lot of time in the garage, we're not fixing or changing too many things, we're going ahead with racking up the laps, so maybe the garage knows something we don't.

[patrese86]

I'm not too concerned with the top speed. Charles said the data matches up which is the main thing.

[Noquarter]

I'm not too concerned with the top speed. Charles said the data matches up which is the main thing.

Gio with Alfa hit highest top speed of testing.

[ntukza]

I'm not too concerned with the top speed. Charles said the data matches up which is the main thing.

One thing the data back at the factory doesn't tell you is where you are relative to everyone else. THAT'S the main thing.

[patrese86]

One thing the data back at the factory doesn't tell you is where you are relative to everyone else. THAT'S the main thing.

Testing doesn't tell you where you are relative to other teams. I guess Williams are better than the mercs right now then...

[SilverSpeed]

Ferrari vs Alpeen

https://i.imgur.com/NlkeYuO.jpg

[SilverSpeed]

Our long runs ( Lec vs Gas ) looks not good mmm.

[FerrariF60]

Tell you the truth I’m not really that impressed with the SF21 performance

[darkchild]

Tell you the truth I’m not really that impressed with the SF21 performance
No body is. I think SF21 is bad car, Binotto is not getting another chance.

[PURE PASSION]

Tell you the truth I’m not really that impressed with the SF21 performance

Deffinetly ,till this point , we doesnt look good AT ALL !!!!!!
Jusrt 2 things doesnt realy add up with this bad picture.
1st.Alfa's performance (we cant be 1+ s behind our junior team )
And 2nd Lec's goodish vibes about the car !!!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Tell you the truth I’m not really that impressed with the SF21 performance

I think it’s too early to tell.

[BRP]

They did not open drs at all on long runs
Had full fuel load
Did not go to 8 gear top speed was 280
I am not worried at all
I think the car is going to be an improvement
Also the floor has been changed and bits are being added

No body is. I think SF21 is bad car, Binotto is not getting another chance.

[MSC Fan]

There are tonnes of Ferrari personnel at Hinwil. No way will Alfa be faster than Ferrari.

[ferrari1.8t]

Sky is so somber right now with Mercedes at the bottom of the pack. Trying to find every excuse why they are slow. wrong/new tyres, not quali mode, still learning etc. Give me a break gentlemen, you're supposed to have no bias to one team/driver. I hope Hamilton will not get one single pole this season so these cry babies can find something else to talk about. Pathetic.

[ferrari1.8t]

Now they are laughing that Leclerc only managed P6 and is still behind GIO. These guys are loosers.

Edit - Sky can rest easy, Bottas in p1

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari are just going through there programs.There is no need to open up the engine.Even the Drs is not being deployed steady she goes.There is no value in thrashing any f1 car at such an early phase of testing . Complete the program and gather all the data thats the name of the game its not about setting the fastest laps.

[330 p4]

Now they are laughing that Leclerc only managed P6 and is still behind GIO. These guys are loosers.

Edit - Sky can rest easy, Bottas in p1

If Ferrari are 6th behind Alfa Sky are the losers?

Despite everyone's wisdom before testing they get drawn in to testing stint pace and headline times. After the 1st race weekend we can see what's what. I'd rather have the most laps and data.

[330 p4]

Gio with Alfa hit highest top speed of testing.

Have Alfa got less wing today as Ferrari still have big rear wing.

[MSC Fan]

Is Leclerc shifting all the way till 8th gear?

[Kyss4k]

Have Alfa got less wing today as Ferrari still have big rear wing.

Which is weird though... as Leclerc holds fastest S1 which is just 2 straights basically, but is losing half a second in S2, which is the DF part of the track.

[Schumiklub]

Which is weird though... as Leclerc holds fastest S1 which is just 2 straights basically, but is losing half a second in S2, which is the DF part of the track.

Did we shave off too much downforce again?

[PURE PASSION]

The truth is that we doesnt look good AT ALL !!!Merc doesnt have a good test till now BUT today they made some very fast stints on hard tires and now they took the top spot with c5. RedBull have show some pretty impresive performance on long stints/mini race sim. Mcl also look pretty good with very good lap times all day long. Alfpha Tauri today is clearly better then up BOTH on long stints and on fast laps by a good margin almost 0.5s. Alpine looks almost on our level and EVEN Alfa Romeo on pure numbers and on track picture looks better then us !!!!!
THIS is the cold trye picture for us at the moment . For sure we dont now anything about our programme compare to others .but if we doenst have made the choise to run havier/lower (engine) then the others , then ther is nothing good in these test to make us hope foe something good !!!!!!!!:-s

[tifosi1993]

Sectors and Max speed

Bottas: 29.001 --- 38.586 --- 22.566 --- 308

Gasly: 28.974 --- 38.773 --- 22.666 --- 322

Stroll: 28.975 --- 38.643 --- 22.744 --- 311

Norris: 28.968 --- 38.915 --- 22.703 --- 313

Giovinazzi: 28.926 --- 39.053 --- 22.752 --- 318

Leclerc: --- 28.902 --- 39.100 --- 22.805 --- 309

Latifi: 29.493 --- 39.278 --- 22.857 --- 318

Perez: 29.333 --- 39.304 --- 22.913 --- 316

Ricciardo: 29.373 --- 39.700 --- 23.142 --- 314

Alonso: 29.446 --- 39.713 --- 23.128 --- 311

Tsunoda: 29.580 --- 39.779 --- 23.038 --- 310

Schumacher: 29.401 --- 40.186 --- 23.296 --- 309

Sainz: 29.756 --- 39.795 --- 23.393 --- 307

Mazepin: 29.608 --- 40.002 --- 23.330 --- 312

Hamilton: 29.884 --- 40.153 --- 23.299 --- 306

Vettel: 29.860 --- 41.672 --- 24.231 --- 306

[MSC Fan]

Did we shave off too much downforce again?

Considering the size of the rear wing, you'll need a world beater of an engine for the downforce to not be enough. It's more likely that either Leclerc destroyed his tyres or missed an apex or something.

[tifosi1993]

Did we shave off too much downforce again?

Yet again, we are reading too much into pre season testing times. Ferrari and every Ferrari powered cars are running the largest RW's, everyone with mid-low downforce RW. And there is no way in hell someone like Latifi in a Williams is only less than tenth slower than Charles in the sector 2 under normal qualifying condition. We are still 2-2.5 seconds away from the ultimate pace.

But the engine is up there, that has been pretty much confirmed.

[MSC Fan]

The truth is that we doesnt look good AT ALL !!!Merc doesnt have a good test till now BUT today they made some very fast stints on hard tires and now they took the top spot with c5. RedBull have show some pretty impresive performance on long stints/mini race sim. Mcl also look pretty good with very good lap times all day long. Alfpha Tauri today is clearly better then up BOTH on long stints and on fast laps by a good margin almost 0.5s. Alpine looks almost on our level and EVEN Alfa Romeo on pure numbers and on track picture looks better then us !!!!!
THIS is the cold trye picture for us at the moment . For sure we dont now anything about our programme compare to others .but if we doenst have made the choise to run havier/lower (engine) then the others , then ther is nothing good in these test to make us hope foe something good !!!!!!!!:-s

Leclerc, Binotto and Marc Gene were satisfied with the way SF21 behaved though. Only Ferrari knows what tests they're running. Just topping the timing sheets isn't important in testing. Look at 2019. We had a tonne of hotlaps and setting the timing sheets on fire and when the season arrived, we were nowhere in the chassis tracks. They need to understand the car before trying to set hotlaps.

[MSC Fan]

One thing I'm afraid about is the rear of the car. Sainz didn't seem comfortable at all with the rear.

[Shadowfax84]

I don't know why some of you are crying already. Our goal is to get top 3 this year, get some podiums and win some races. We are not competing for WCC and WDC, nowhere near that.

If you want to see us win championships come back in 2024 because that's the earliest we can challenge.

[nani_s23]

Testing is not about topping the time charts. It’s about gathering the data & pass it to Factory for more refinement.

It’s good that Ferrari are doing good mileage. Too early to judge where we stand.

[nani_s23]

One thing I'm afraid about is the rear of the car. Sainz didn't seem comfortable at all with the rear.

I’ve said the same during 1st day of testing by looking at the footage. Rear isn’t stable yet.
But ferrari said they spent tokens on it. Let’s see

[MSC Fan]

I’ve said the same during 1st day of testing by looking at the footage. Rear isn’t stable yet.
But ferrari said they spent tokens on it. Let’s see

They only spent tokens on it to recover downforce that will be lost due to the 2021 regs. Every single car on this year's grid will have a lower rear downforce than last year's car.

[jgonzalesm6]

LAP COUNT and KM's on DAY 2:

Haas 163 laps - 882.156kms
AlphaTauri 142 - 768.504
Williams 132 - 714.384
Ferrari 129 - 698.148
Alpine 128 - 692.736
Alfa Romeo 125 - 676.5
Red Bull 117 - 633.204
Mercedes 114 - 616.968
McLaren 104 - 562.848
Aston Martin 80 - 432.96



COMBINED LAP COUNT + KM's

Alpine: 257 - 1390.88
Red Bull: 256 - 1385.47
Alfa Romeo: 256 - 1385.47
AlphaTauri: 253 - 1369.24
Haas: 248 - 1342.17
Ferrari: 245 - 1325.94
Williams: 215 - 1163.58
McLaren: 195 - 1055.34
Aston Martin: 177 - 957.93
Mercedes: 162 - 876.74


LAP COUNT and KILOMETERS per power unit:

Ferrari: 749 - 4053.588
Mercedes: 749 - 4053.588
Honda: 509 - 2727.648
Alpine: 257 - 1390.884

[ntukza]

Testing doesn't tell you where you are relative to other teams. I guess Williams are better than the mercs right now then...

True. Fair enough.

[SilverSpeed]

Murray Walker RIP.

[Noquarter]

Ferrari suffers from tyre degradation in long runs. The chassis is still far behind the competition. In the MID sector, Leclerc was very slow despite his best time in the S1.

[reaver]

Only Leclerc know if he is pushing in S2 , S3 or not ...............

Probably they are more concerned by other things .................

We dont know what program is he making,etc .....................

[reaver]

And....


we do not know how much fuel the alpha tauri carried , or Bottas .............. or if for the race, in 3 weeks , new parts solve it .......... if the car need some more downforce in any part of them ...

Remember, we begin with the rear part .............completly new ............

[tpe]

After seeing the diffuser, I am very worried.
Either they have something else in the pipeline and they went to Bahrain with a known element for data gathering and correlation with the 3RD and wind tunnel, or they are completely lost.

[Forza Rosso]

Charles looks and sounds upbeat never the less... :

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2021/3/TESTING_DAY_2__%27Never_judge_anything_after_pre-season_testing%27__says_Charles_Leclerc.html

[ntukza]

Charles looks and sounds upbeat never the less... :

https://www.formula1.com/en/video/2021/3/TESTING_DAY_2__%27Never_judge_anything_after_pre-season_testing%27__says_Charles_Leclerc.html

Yeah, good to see. I wish he had asked him how the car is feeling.

[ntukza]

Also, Charles is always positive, even last year. But I do concede that we are reading more into testing that we should (me included) - it makes it fun, if anything.

[MSC Fan]

Also, Charles is always positive, even last year. But I do concede that we are reading more into testing that we should (me included) - it makes it fun, if anything.

He wasn't positive last year. He admitted that they would be struggling massively during testing but everyone thought it was just Ferrari sandbagging.

[MSC Fan]

Apparently, Sainz said in his instagram live that they were running with full tanks, yesterday.

[jgonzalesm6]

Day 3 of testing......we're GO, GO, GO!!!!

[Grimlock]

Charles 1.30.486 on mediums right out of the box, matching Bottas from yesterday.

[jgonzalesm6]

Charles 1.30.3 on mediums right out of the box, matching Bottas from yesterday.

yep, love the kid. He did a 1:30.486

[FF1]

yep, love the kid. He did a 1:30.486

Any speed traps

[MSC Fan]

Lawrence Barretto, F1.com Senior Writer: "Charles Leclerc didn't want to get ahead of himself when we chatted in the TV pen last night, but the general vibe was one of hope after a solid opening two days of testing. Everything feels good, he reckoned, including the much-talked about all-new Ferrari power unit. It's testing, of course, which is why Leclerc didn't want to be drawn on making predictions, but there's certainly more of a spring in his step versus his persona at the end of last year."

[nhiepka]

Any link to watch online mates? I have sorry.

[MSC Fan]

Any link to watch online mates? I have sorry.

https://m.twitch.tv/bigflyproduction?desktop-redirect=true

[SS454]

https://m.twitch.tv/bigflyproduction?desktop-redirect=true

Thank you

[Grimlock]

Watching long runs, Charles, Kimi and Lance all on a long run, Charles is consistently fastest of the three and just overtook Stroll on track. I'm quite sure Stroll is out of sync as he started his run later, but still.

[Rob]

Sakhir, 13 March 2021 – The second day of the only 2021 pre-season test session saw Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz working on slightly different programmes to one another at the wheel of the SF21. Between them, the Scuderia Ferrari Mission Winnow drivers completed 129 laps today, equivalent to 698,1 kilometres. It means that over the two days so far, they have done 244 laps (1,321 km).

Morning. As planned, Carlos was the first to drive, going out at 10 local (8 CET), to tackle a programme aimed at evaluating the Pirelli tyres over a long distance. The Spaniard did a series of quite long runs, using both the C2 and C3 compounds. Sainz did 56 laps, the quickest in a time of 1’33”072.

Afternoon. After the lunch break it was Charles’ turn to get to work and in the early afternoon, he too did some long runs on the C2 and C3 tyres. In the final part of the session, the Monegasque did a series of runs aimed partly at a qualifying simulation with various tyre compounds. By the end, Charles best time of 1’30”886 was set on the C5 compound, completing a total of 73 laps.

Programme. The action continues tomorrow at Sakhir’s Bahrain International Circuit with the third and final day of testing. Charles will be first out in the SF21 from 10am local time (8 CET) with Carlos taking over for the afternoon.

Laurent Mekies Racing Director
“Another very busy day of testing in Bahrain, with almost 700 kilometres covered during the eight hours of track time. The weather was much better than yesterday, although the wind was still a feature, especially in the first part of the day. We worked a lot on management of the Pirelli tyres over long runs and we got plenty of data which we will now analyse carefully. In the final hour, we also began to look at how the SF21 went in terms of outright performance and here too, we gathered a lot of useful information.
These three days are vitally important and we are taking a methodical approach, because the work we do now will be the key to how we get on during the season. Therefore the most important thing is to complete the planned programme and that’s what we have done so far. As for the competition, we can start thinking about that in two weeks time, in qualifying for the Bahrain Grand Prix.”

[PURE PASSION]

Aahhh, to tell you the truth, I'm not excited with Lec's race sim. He's on the same pace as Rai,if not a bit slower!!! I think he has more degradation!!!!

[Grimlock]

Aahhh, to tell you the truth, I'm not excited with Lec's race sim. He's on the same pace as Rai,if not a bit slower!!! I think he has more degradation!!!!

Yes Kimi was faster than Charles at the end of the stint but he also had fresher tires. Also note that Charles started the sim half a lap behind kimi and ended the sim ahead.
But yes my hope here is that the Alpha is a good car this year because they do seem to be very close pace wise. :(

[330 p4]

Goes to show how times mean nothing. C5 times yesterday people in a bit of a flap but today LeClerc does a 30.4 on C3 which is 2nd or 3rd fastest time of the entire test. Its definitely the fastest C3 time so far but again is not showing much as I think a number of cars could do a low 29 high 28 on C3 tyres.

[PURE PASSION]

Goes to show how times mean nothing. C5 times yesterday people in a bit of a flap but today LeClerc does a 30.4 on C3 which is 2nd or 3rd fastest time of the entire test. Its definitely the fastest C3 time so far but again is not showing much as I think a number of cars could do a low 29 high 28 on C3 tyres.

Perez did 1"30:3 also on C3s ,but yeah definitely it a better sign then yesterday

[330 p4]

Perez did 1"30:3 also on C3s ,but yeah definitely it a better sign then yesterday

Timing charts have Perez on C4 tyres? I am watching live and at the end of the session the timing graphic said Perez C4. I'll go off and check.

[FerrariF60]

Any links for third day of testing

Thanks

[PURE PASSION]

Timing charts have Perez on C4 tyres? I am watching live and at the end of the session the timing graphic said Perez C4. I'll go off and check.

His final 1:30:187 was on C4s ,but before he had done a 1:30:29* on C3s

[330 p4]

His final 1:30:187 was on C4s ,but before he had done a 1:30:29* on C3s

Thanks, I see now. Encouraging but as I have said nearly any car out there can do better than these times on C3.

[alfa84]

Till now it looks like no surprises. With all these developments freeze.... looks really difficult to make a difference. At least they are saving money and who care about the sport or the fun. I propose to make this championship virtual

[PURE PASSION]

In total the general opinion is that the car is not that bad,although we cant predict anything because other teams has done pretty well also. Our main problem is ,once again, the tire degradation witch is created from the lack of load from the rear !!! Noone knows if its a general problem for us ,or they still havent foyn the sweet spot from the all new back end+suspension ???!!!

[PURE PASSION]

Binotto:
"This afternoon we have prepared a programme with runs of different lengths. We will focus mainly on the softer compounds."
"As far as the planned programme is concerned, we managed to do everything we wanted to do."
"With only 3 days of testing, we knew it would be very stressful and intense. We focused on finding out how the new car behaves in different conditions. We collected a lot of data that we are now analysing."
"We don't know what the others are doing. And the cars will still change before the first race!"
"Last year we were very slow here in Bahrain in terms of top speed. The disadvantage doesn't seem so big now when I look at the data. In terms of lap times, we don't compare ourselves with other cars, we just focus on ourselves."
"We are now faster on the straights than last year. It's a combination of power and drag. The top speed is no longer a disadvantage for us."

[MSC Fan]

Any links for third day of testing

Thanks

https://m.twitch.tv/bigflyproduction

[ferrari1.8t]

Any links for third day of testing

Thanks

https://www.streameast.live/formula-1/f1-pre-season-testing-day-3/

[ferrari1.8t]

I thought that the screens in front of the garages were banned? Not that it matters to me, just curious as the teams are still using them.

[Grimlock]

I thought that the screens in front of the garages were banned? Not that it matters to me, just curious as the teams are still using them.

They can use them if they need to take the floor of the car. You can basically tell that they have a big issue if the screens are up.

[ferrari1.8t]

They can use them if they need to take the floor of the car. You can basically tell that they have a big issue if the screens are up.

Ok, thanks mate! Merc had the screens up a while ago. Might have been when they were getting the car ready for hamilton.

[jgonzalesm6]

Looks like Mercedes has there work cut out for them regarding the rear of the car.

1) Either go with a low rake angle (as the previous Mercedes cars) or move up to a higher rake angle.

2) IF a higher rake angle, could they follow Mclaren's rear diffuser setup??

[ferrari1.8t]

Looks like Mercedes has there work cut out for them regarding the rear of the car.

1) Either go with a low rake angle (as the previous Mercedes cars) or move up to a higher rake angle.

2) IF a higher rake angle, could they follow Mclaren's rear diffuser setup??

Definitely looks like a handful to drive....

[tifosi1993]

Maybe it's blind support but I'm cautiously optimistic about the SF21. Nothing about it suggests to be yet another lemon, it looks solid and it's ramping up millage. Leclerc himself can add few more extra tenths. So yeah...feeling optimistic.

Right now Sainz is on a race stint and looking super consistent.

[FerrariF60]

https://www.streameast.live/formula-1/f1-pre-season-testing-day-3/

Thanks mate

[330 p4]

Sainz apparently on a race sim and faster more consistent than LeClerc this morning. Fruits of data analysis and set up changes?

[gump1480]

Sainz apparently on a race sim and faster more consistent than LeClerc this morning. Fruits of data analysis and set up changes?

Lower track temperature

[FerrariF60]

Sainz apparently on a race sim and faster more consistent than LeClerc this morning. Fruits of data analysis and set up changes?

Or fuel loads

[330 p4]

Or fuel loads

Race sim fuel loads would be the same. It's probably a bit of everything, time of day, set up changes etc. Stands to reason as more mileage the better they can set the car up. Looks good though, in the low 35's on hard now. Thinks he has another 20 laps left.

[PURE PASSION]

Dont care about the lap times,but the consistency. Its o good thing if they have found something to solve to degradation problem

[330 p4]

Dont care about the lap times,but the consistency. Its o good thing if they have found something to solve to degradation problem

Absolutely, has been around 35 flat for lap after lap in this stint. Car looks very settled as well.

[tifosi1993]

Lower track temperature

Yup, 43C vs 29C and getting cooler, so air is getting thicker and tyres are performing better. But Sainz is looking super consistent. :thumb

[330 p4]

Sainz 1st stint 13 laps excluding out and in laps, started 36.8 ended 39.1 but from 2nd lap on was high 37 low 38 so deg not bad with full tank. 2nd stint 17 laps started 36.6 ended 37.1 so less fuel deg 0.5. This smacks of driving to a delta but appears very good.

[PURE PASSION]

in witch tire did Ves his lap ?

[FerrariF60]

in witch tire did Ves his lap ?

I thought they said experimental C3 maybe 4 tire

[330 p4]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.

[PURE PASSION]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.

EXACTLY !!!!!!:furious

[ferrari1.8t]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.

I was thinking the same thing. Brundle - "well Seb spent all last year chasing Rai". Keep jabbing Ferrari Sky, our day will come and we will shut you all up.

[Grimlock]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.

I know, can't stand the idiots.

[nhiepka]

I thought they said experimental C3 maybe 4 tire

C4

[FerrariF60]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.

Croft’s is such a $#*&@& tool....he’s totally parallel with F1....not to mention in live with his idol Louise....I hope to God that if Ferrari is not championship material, Max as much as I hate the guy wipes the floor and snatches that championship from a Hamster

[ferrari1.8t]

Croft’s is such a $#*&@& tool....he’s totally parallel with F1....not to mention in live with his idol Louise....I hope to God that if Ferrari is not championship material, Max as much as I hate the guy wipes the floor and snatches that championship from a Hamster

Please, then all we will hear from Sky is sob stories, excuses etc why Hamilton isnt winning. Spare me. Cant stand their slanted reporting.

[TTRSMAD]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.

These guys on Sky are such haters. Can t stand these biased clown. I wish Sainz makes them eat crow by the end of this.

[PURE PASSION]

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[Noquarter]

Old Fart Brundle hates Ferrari so much

[Warp]

Seems like Sainz got gearbox issues

[patrese86]

David Croft knows zero about F1. Chandock was a failure and Brundle was a decent driver but between them they are pretty clueless and just pander to the English audience.

[ferrari1.8t]

Sky ecstatic, Sainz stuck in 4th gear.

[MSC Fan]

I was thinking the same thing. Brundle - "well Seb spent all last year chasing Rai". Keep jabbing Ferrari Sky, our day will come and we will shut you all up.

Even if Ferrari win every single race of the year in 2022 by lapping the entire field, the folks at sky will never spare an opportunity to talk crap about Ferrari.

[SilverSpeed]

High engine mode for Kimi?

[Warp]

High engine mode for Kimi?

c5 tyres and probably Ferrari is testing some power

[patrese86]

Hydraulic issue for sainz. Wonder if that's us done for testing then...shame as I wanted to see a couple of quick laps from Carlos towards the end

[Warp]

Redbull looks fast so far. Fastest lap on C3 tyres

[tifosi1993]

Hydraulic issue for sainz. Wonder if that's us done for testing then...shame as I wanted to see a couple of quick laps from Carlos towards the end

He will be out on track within a few minutes

[tifosi1993]

Sainz out on track

[MSC Fan]

The Mercedes gearbox sucks a**. 3 issues in 3 days for Vettel. That's almost McLaren Honda tier. I hope the factory team falls apart as well.

[Warp]

The Mercedes gearbox sucks a**. 3 issues in 3 days for Vettel. That's almost McLaren Honda tier. I hope the factory team falls apart as well.

That would be nice, but i'm pretty sure they will fix all issues even before the first race.

[patrese86]

Hamilton spins. You love to see it. Here comes the sky brigade with the excuses...

But sainz didn't look comfortable on the final turn on c3's according to croft, with nothing to back it up!

[jgonzalesm6]

Gasly MIGHT have some competition. Yuki doing well for a rookie. No drama at the wheel.

[Lesky]

Mark Hughes estimation for ultimate speed:

Mercedes - 1m28.3s
Red Bull - 1m28.5s
McLaren - 1m28.65s
Aston Martin - 1m28.7s
AlphaTauri - 1m29.1s
Alpine - 1m29.5s
Ferrari - 1m29.5s
Alfa Romeo - 1m30.4s
Williams - 1m31.3s
Haas - 1m32.45s

[MSC Fan]

Hahahahaha, the disappointment in Crofty's voice when Sainz went third fastest is hilarious.

[tifosi1993]

I wonder what Charles could've done with the current cooler track conditions, 30.4 in a 44C track on C3's was quite respectable.

[330 p4]

Sky are as ever stupid. Raikkonen on a C4 in better conditions beats LeClercs C3 time by 0.050 and try to angle a story from it. Wish God had left Murray and taken Croft instead.


Hahahahaha, the disappointment in Crofty's voice when Sainz went third fastest is hilarious.

Yeah where's the BS comparisons now Sainz is 0.4 faster than Hamilton on C5?

Sky commentators only exist to Blow Hamiltons diffuser.

[MSC Fan]

Gasly MIGHT have some competition. Yuki doing well for a rookie. No drama at the wheel.

Yuki is no joke. The insane adaptability he had shown from Japan's racing scene to F3 to F2 is something special. I predict he will beat Gasly.

[Noquarter]

Yuki is no joke. The insane adaptability he had shown from Japan's racing scene to F3 to F2 is something special. I predict he will beat Gasly.

I think very easly.

[330 p4]

Mark Hughes estimation for ultimate speed:

Mercedes - 1m28.3s
Red Bull - 1m28.5s
McLaren - 1m28.65s
Aston Martin - 1m28.7s
AlphaTauri - 1m29.1s
Alpine - 1m29.5s
Ferrari - 1m29.5s
Alfa Romeo - 1m30.4s
Williams - 1m31.3s
Haas - 1m32.45s

Change this to what Mark Hughes wants the ultimate pace to be. Alfa and Ferrari already disproved this.

[tifosi1993]

Gasly MIGHT have some competition. Yuki doing well for a rookie. No drama at the wheel.

Some people here might get upset, but Yuki is faster than Mick.

[PURE PASSION]

So we are slower then Alpha Tauri on the same tires ??!!

[patrese86]

Those Hamilton sky tears are tasty today, even for testing.

[Grimlock]

Sky F1 have their noses so far up Hamilton's a.. they are brown ... you can see he has issues with the car but they still say its all fine...

[tifosi1993]

So we are slower then Alpha Tauri on the same tires ??!!

And only .5 seconds ahead of Russell!

[Toothlessrage*]

Hey Guys!

This is a quote from Palmer, "Looking at Ferrari, Charles Leclerc did a very strong lap early on today in better conditions, but that's been the only glimpse of something strong from the team. But some of the long runs haven't looked so good and I think they don't look like they've caught up a great deal – maybe they're a bit further ahead than they were last year, but I don't think they're anywhere near the top teams.”

I know that most of the British "PUNDITS" love trashing Ferrari and dry-humping Hamiltons nut****.
Also, we aren't supposed to make assumptions based on testing results.

But, I have a feeling there's some truth to his statement.

What do you guys think?

[patrese86]

Hey Guys!

This is a quote from Palmer, "Looking at Ferrari, Charles Leclerc did a very strong lap early on today in better conditions, but that's been the only glimpse of something strong from the team. But some of the long runs haven't looked so good and I think they don't look like they've caught up a great deal – maybe they're a bit further ahead than they were last year, but I don't think they're anywhere near the top teams.”

I know that most of the British "PUNDITS" love trashing Ferrari and dry-humping Hamiltons nut****.
Also, we aren't supposed to make assumptions based on testing results.

But, I have a feeling there's some truth to his statement.

What do you guys think?

Once again Palmer is a failure in the sport and therefor can't be taken serious. The conditions weren't better earlier, they were worse because track temps have since cooled and the track has rubbered in more. He's an idiot much like the rest of the commentators mentioned earlier.

[Aziz]

I do not believe for a sec that they know how to build a strong car, and 2022 will not be any different

[gump1480]

See the race stints of Ricciardo in McLaren...that some ominous race pace !!

[tifosi1993]

Best sectors and max speed

Verstappen: 28.452 --- 38.157 --- 22.351 --- 309

Tsunoda: 28.401 --- 38.398 --- 22.215 --- 322

Sainz: 28.549 --- 38.566 --- 22.496 --- 312

Raikkonen: 28.523 --- 38.701 --- 22.542 --- 319

Hamilton: 28.741 --- 38.630 --- 22.610 --- 310

Russell: 28.796 --- 38.801 --- 22.432 --- 318

Ricciardo: 28.749 --- 38.760 --- 22.635 --- 310

Perez: 28.926 --- 38.505 --- 22.446 --- 310

Alonso: 28.778 --- 38.810 --- 22.648 --- 312

Leclerc: 28.932 --- 38.793 --- 22.761 --- 319

Norris: 28.895 --- 38.874 --- 22.742 --- 315

Gasly: 28.926 --- 39.065 --- 22.729 --- 314

Ocon: 29.089 --- 39.217 --- 23.000 --- 315

Mazepin: 29.122 --- 39.332 --- 22.994 --- 307

Schumacher: 29.213 --- 39.427 --- 23.175 --- 317

Bottas: 29.471 --- 39.652 --- 22.239 --- 308

Vettel: 30.191 --- 40.957 --- 23.568 --- 291

Stroll: 30.789 --- 41.474 --- 23.699 --- 294