FrenchGP 2021: Race

[jgonzalesm6]

Possible rainy start.

Link:

https:/www.streameast.live/home/

[jgonzalesm6]

Track is dry at the moment.

[JChan]

I have a question, Who activate the DRS, is it the driver or people from pitwall?

[KimiBot]

Hopefully we can see good racing today.

[jgonzalesm6]

Hopefully we can see good racing today.

Driver activates DRS.

[jgonzalesm6]

*** MAX???

[stefa]

Great :furious

[stefa]

CL struggling

[stefa]

Usual LH wining about tires :lou

[jgonzalesm6]

Hamilton: These tyres are... I don't think they are going to last as long as you are expecting.

English translation: Bono, we could go to the checkered flag

[stefa]

I've already feel sleepy :-ZZ

[jgonzalesm6]

Hamilton: Tyres are getting hot.

English Translation: Tyres are in the perfect window

[stefa]

Both McLaren faster than two Ferrari

[stefa]

CL sitting duck on that straight. DR on outside....
CL in PIT

[458 Italia]

Exciting race then? :rotfl

[impactX]

Lovely, the team screwed Sainz for the golden boy.

[jgonzalesm6]

Mclaren with better tire strat.

[gump1480]

We lost out on opportunities to put a gap on McLaren in terms of championship points...and now it's gonna hit us hard. There are quite a few McLaren tracks coming up.

[stefa]

CS 9th

[stefa]

Aston Martin better LP on old tyres than Ferrari on new

[stefa]

CL lost a place to DR

[stefa]

CL lost another place to CS

[stefa]

CL LP almost in 1:42

[stefa]

CL 11th

[Tifoso Svedese]

Sick of these orange turd cars. :redcard

[PURE PASSION]

Very very bad tire degradation

[PURE PASSION]

We will end up out off points

[stefa]

CL tires are gone after only 15 laps

[stefa]

Both McLaren cars passed both Ferrari

[stefa]

CL 12th and dropping like a stone

[Ferrari312T4]

This race is a headache and plenty of homework back at Maranello ..

[JacKy]

pit for leclerc

[gump1480]

Both McLaren cars passed both Ferrari

And we will lose points to AM too... Horrible race car

[Tifoso Svedese]

The chicane kills this car because that means the others can run high wings in S3. Level playing field is the only chance.

[jgonzalesm6]

Wow...Redbull pits Max early........Perez could win this race??

[KimiBot]

Come on guys, dont be so negative, we have Binotto, he is a great guy.

[Ferrari312T4]

pit for leclerc

Exactly what i was thinking. It's becoming literally pointless if we don't watch out

[Warp]

We degrade the tires faster than our competitors

[stefa]

Come on guys, dont be so negative, we have Binotto, he is a great guy.

:rotfl
That bring much points to team

[Ferrari312T4]

Come on guys, dont be so negative, we have Binotto, he is a great guy.

True, I have confidence in Binotto. However, our strategy could be better sometimes.

[Tifoso Svedese]

True, I have confidence in Binotto. However, our strategy could be better sometimes.

For the good of the sport, huh?

[stefa]

CL lost a place to PG... and to FA

[stefa]

Now I think we are safe in 10th and 11th

[Ferrari312T4]

Now I think we are safe in 10th and 11th

Vettel will have us...

[stefa]

Now they pitted CL

[stefa]

Unfortunately I think MV will burn his tires and LH will will

[paneristi]

Ask Binotto and he will say “we hope to get better next year..”
This race is a headache and plenty of homework back at Maranello ..

[stefa]

SV will catch CS

[patrese86]

Tyres have killed us. Wonder if it's the 2 point rise in psi

[tifosi1993]

As expected, our PU is still not there in a track with 3 long straights. The electrical components and energy harvesting is up there, but the ICE itself is pretty weak.

I also think Ferrari should change their practice program. Focus more on long runs-race stint and protecting tyres instead of one lap pace.

[stefa]

And CS lost to SV

[jgonzalesm6]

Max...your beautiful.

[stefa]

CS will loose to LS in couple of laps. So both cars out of points

[tifosi1993]

Tyres have killed us. Wonder if it's the 2 point rise in psi

Maybe they should copy Mclaren's practice program instead of focusing on short runs. Most of the time Ferrari do fast lap-slow lap-fast lap instead of doing long runs like the Mclaren. We've been struggling with the tyres but Ferrari only did 5-7 laps during the FP2 race sim with both drivers.

[stefa]

And as usual LH tires works when he needs them

[jgonzalesm6]

Bottas is upset with he pit crew

[stefa]

MV tires are gone

[stefa]

And CS lost to LS

[stefa]

11th and 16th

[stefa]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PURE PASSION]

This is by far our worst gp race pace wise!!!!!
Both our drivers out of points purely on race pace!!!!
All this is down to tire management but we have HUGE problem on this !!!!!!

[paneristi]

:roll 0+0
We are supposed to be the barometer of F1.
They’re more interested in selling merchandise than winning F1, perhaps..

11th and 16th

[stefa]

All credits to Red Bull and Honda

[jgonzalesm6]

MAX......YOUR AWESOME!!!

[Hornet]

That was an insane drive by Max

[patrese86]

Really poor from us and we need to understand why that happened as there are circuits coming up with similar characteristics.

Well done Max. Made that an enjoyable race to watch given our performance

[stefa]

Really poor from us and we need to understand why that happened as there are circuits coming up with similar characteristics.

Well done Max. Made that an enjoyable race to watch given our performance

What is there to understand!!?!? We have week engine and not so good chassis

[jgonzalesm6]

All credits to Red Bull and Honda

+1

[KimiBot]

Really poor from us and we need to understand why that happened as there are circuits coming up with similar characteristics.



Well, this is a true race track, so this is reality.

[20000rpm]

Well done Max... that was a great race.
Horrible day for the Tifosi... But it was expected given these are power demanding circuits.
I think we should focus on tuning our setup for race rather than qualifying atleast for those circuits which are power intensive, the RB Ring.

[KimiBot]

At least Max did offer some exciting racing today,

bad was that both Ferraris were lapped.

[WS6TransAm01]

Glad Max best Lewis but otherwise a waste of an hour and a half of my morning.

Both Ferraris out of the points. Notch another abysmal failure on Harry Potter’s belt.

[20000rpm]

All credits to Red Bull and Honda

Frankly... who would have thought that Honda, who period with Mclaren showed that its engine won't survive in F-1, today is going head to head with Mercedes.
Credits due to them.. they did a fantastic turn-around as an engine supplier.

[patrese86]

What is there to understand!!?!? We have week engine and not so good chassis

Well the chassis worked at Monaco. How do you move forward if you don't try to understand what went wrong. Why is it always so black and white? Every circuit is different. You'd have us never progress because you constantly cry and expect things to fix themselves as if by magic. I mean how do you think you get out of a whole? By shedding tears saying what is there to understand!!!! You'd go far mate, I'm surprised you aren't on the pit wall already. Clearly you have all the ****ing answers so throw in your CV and you might get a job!??

[Tifoso Svedese]

Monza is better than this because of a dominance by short and slow corners and everyone being forced to run low DF.

Paul Ricard is the worst of both worlds and also a very windy circuit. Remember that even in 2018 and 2019 the car was quite slow there.

[20000rpm]

The performance gain on PU is relative, we made progress, but others already had a lead on us so its not that much to compete.
Our chassis is built for a more powerful PU, hence we see it fails to perform on a power demanding circuit.

[20000rpm]

Can we tune our car to be setup for the race instead of qualifying??
Is our race pace good enough?

[Ferrari312T4]

I heard that we have some sort of Engineering Academy. Similar to our drivers academy. Does anyone have more info on that?

[PURE PASSION]

It is so obvious that we don't evolve this car at all.
It's a good ish car in a lot of track's,but it also has some very dig flaws in straight line speed and tire management.
I personally d
,despite my disappointment in Sundays like this ,don't care if we end up 3d or 4th (or even 5th) . I'm in a mood that I really see this year as team say it is. A year that we solve most of last years flaws but we can't solve everything under those rules (they literally don't allow you to change some parts). So we present a car and that's it for this year.
I'm OK with this and I wait for next year .Not like we use to say it for many years ,but now I see that's something is very different. SO ,as I said before , I'm OK to give the team this one more chance to deliver next year.
IF the fail again, I'm gonna stop care so much about them and F1 in general. Till now Ferrari F1 team was a very big part in my life . If they fail next year this will stop !!!!!!

[Hornet]

I think we struggled with tyre wear more than anything else today.
We were surprisingly OK in Baku which was a high power track. Would have expected similar results here.

[PURE PASSION]

I think we struggled with tyre wear more than anything else today.
We were surprisingly OK in Baku which was a high power track. Would have expected similar results here.

On pure pace we are OK. On tire earing tracks we will suffer BIG TIME!!!!

[20000rpm]

I think we struggled with tyre wear more than anything else today.
We were surprisingly OK in Baku which was a high power track. Would have expected similar results here.

Is it due to new tyre pressure mandated by Pirelli post Baku fiasco? Coz it does seem like it. Charles struggled in qualifying, the race result speaks for itself.

[nani_s23]

On pure pace we are OK. On tire earing tracks we will suffer BIG TIME!!!!

When leclerc struggles, we can understand how hard is the car/tyres.

Still the same problem tyres.

[nani_s23]

As I said earlier, this season RB-Max got the car to win. If it doesn’t happen for them this year, then it’s difficult for them to repeat it. They heavily invested for this season to give everything what Max wanted. Luckily they got Perez too, who is doing what bottas used to do for Mercs all these years.

I feel WCC is in RB grab. WDC is a tight fight.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Austria will be a lot better because the lap is shorter (less energy), higher elevation (less HP for Honda & Mercedes), shorter straights (none longer than 800 m) and a dominance of slow and short corners which stresses the tyres a lot less and makes it difficult to warm them up. Actually, I'd expect a top five finish there on merit.

[jgonzalesm6]

Updated Constructors' standings:

1. Red Bull - 215 pts
2. Mercedes - 178 pts
3. McLaren - 110 pts
4. Ferrari - 94 pts
5. AlphaTauri - 45 pts
6. Aston Martin - 40 pts
7. Alpine - 29 pts
8. Alfa Romeo - 2 pts
9. Williams - 0 pts
10. Haas - 0 pts


Updated Drivers' standings after seven races:

1. Verstappen - 131 pts
2. Hamilton - 119 pts
3. Perez - 84 pts
4. Norris - 76 pts
5. Bottas - 59 pts
6. Leclerc - 52 pts
7. Sainz - 42 pts
8. Gasly - 37 pts
9. Ricciardo - 34 pts
10. Vettel - 30 pts

[WS6TransAm01]

I heard that we have some sort of Engineering Academy. Similar to our drivers academy. Does anyone have more info on that?

Somehow I see the Ferrari Engineering Academy being much like the movie Police Academy.

[SilverSpeed]

Somehow I see the Ferrari Engineering Academy being much like the movie Police Academy.

Proctorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :rotfl

[JPMFerrari]

Updated Constructors' standings:

1. Red Bull - 215 pts
2. Mercedes - 178 pts
3. McLaren - 110 pts
4. Ferrari - 94 pts
5. AlphaTauri - 45 pts
6. Aston Martin - 40 pts
7. Alpine - 29 pts
8. Alfa Romeo - 2 pts
9. Williams - 0 pts
10. Haas - 0 pts


Updated Drivers' standings after seven races:

1. Verstappen - 131 pts
2. Hamilton - 119 pts
3. Perez - 84 pts
4. Norris - 76 pts
5. Bottas - 59 pts
6. Leclerc - 52 pts
7. Sainz - 42 pts
8. Gasly - 37 pts
9. Ricciardo - 34 pts
10. Vettel - 30 pts

Wow, 4th place in the Constructor's championship is beyond bad.

[wisepie]

Painful doesn't cover it, seeing both drivers out of the points makes a mockery of our team, it's embarrassing. We knew we'd probably struggle on this kind of circuit and whatever the reason for us destroying our tyres so badly (increased FIA/Pirelli pressures?), it was the same for everyone. We're down on power too, so I wouldn't blame Charles and Carlos for having a good old rant in the debrief. In the interest of the sport, they should allow Ferrari to use the 2019 engine (not illegal as such) and they'd have more than two teams fighting it out. Mclaren have shown us how to do it on strategy, which makes me even more mad and it makes us look like fools. Happy that Max got HAM, but I'm a very unhappy tifoso.:-s

[Ferrari312T4]

The Ferrari F1 Engineering Academy, based in Maranello / Italy, is looking for the best engineering graduates & PhDs to join us in within the highly stimulating, fast-paced and challenging work environment of the Ferrari F1 team.

This is your unique opportunity to enter the exciting and demanding world of racing, by joining our exclusive and dedicated program.

Start with a dedicated 6-month internship, and deliver to earn a long term role in the Ferrari F1
team.

WHO
ARE
WE
LOOKING
FOR?
We are seeking excellent engineering graduates (Master and/ or PhD) who have graduated within the last 12 months.

Above all, we are looking for problem-solvers with the highest agility who are able to work practically as well as creatively,team-players who are hardworking and with the right humility, are hungry to learn, and motivated to succeed.

Your academic background will come from these key disciplines: Aerospace Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical & Electronic Engineering, Materials Science & Controls Engineering.

[Redfive]

Ferrari's performance here was just depressing. Thank you to Max for stopping it being a total borefest.

[stefa]

Well the chassis worked at Monaco. How do you move forward if you don't try to understand what went wrong. Why is it always so black and white? Every circuit is different. You'd have us never progress because you constantly cry and expect things to fix themselves as if by magic. I mean how do you think you get out of a whole? By shedding tears saying what is there to understand!!!! You'd go far mate, I'm surprised you aren't on the pit wall already. Clearly you have all the ****ing answers so throw in your CV and you might get a job!??

Dude, this year is over for Ferrari, you get that, right!? Next year is the clean sheet of paper, so nothing they can do with this years car.
You are really pulling that - I'm surprised you aren't on the pit wall already, throw in your CV and you might get a job - card?!?
Sorry but I am not celebrating mediocracy!

[jgonzalesm6]

How everyone faired at the end of the race.....top 4 were within 15sec of each other......P5 thru P11 were over a minute plus.....P12 thru P20 were lapped.

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1406624576965169152/photo/1

[FerrariF60]

so on a proper track it really shows how BAD our engine is and also our aero....
we're gonna get murdered in Spa and Monza.....and lapped for sure....SAD JUST SAD

[Cavallino]

If this is due to the other teams developing their cars, then fine, let them, we should remain concentrated on next season. The only other team I can see not concentrating too hard on this season is Mercedes. I think they feel if they win this season, it's icing on the cake. I think Toto said something like that on Sky before the race, that there is a bigger picture here.

If it's due to the flexi wing ban, that's fine too, although, i don't think it is.

If it's due to tyre pressure changes, I would like to see Ferrari get on top of that.

It definitely wasn't going to be our best track, but why are we so good in qualifying?

[FerrariF60]

If this is due to the other teams developing their cars, then fine, let them, we should remain concentrated on next season. The only other team I can see not concentrating too hard on this season is Mercedes. I think they feel if they win this season, it's icing on the cake. I think Toto said something like that on Sky before the race, that there is a bigger picture here.

If it's due to the flexi wing ban, that's fine too, although, i don't think it is.

If it's due to tyre pressure changes, I would like to see Ferrari get on top of that.

It definitely wasn't going to be our best track, but why are we so good in qualifying?

good in quali???????????????? we were 8 tenths off the lead....that ain't good
and like in previous races (apart from Monaco where we are good in slow corners and have good mechanical grip) we had good quali pace but fell backwards during the race...i.e. due to haveing a weak engine

[jgonzalesm6]

, but why are we so good in qualifying?

In qualifying, teams turn the engnes up and run on limited fuel loads.

In race, teams turn the engines down and run on a full tank as well as tire preservation hence a 1 stopper or 2 stop race.

[Brembo]

Millions more $$ & fans back with F-1! That first lap pass by Merc when Max unchallenged moved over was hard to believe! That gave Merc a 3 second jump. Ferrari did a Binotto "Next Year!" finish; but I still have faith in our drivers for the next race to come back with points.

[paneristi]

I, too, have confidence in CL & CS, but not the management team. We need strong team boss that cares only about winning and top podium, definitely not this donkey who can only throw “dog ate my homework” thing, even worse than Domenicali
Millions more $$ & fans back with F-1! That first lap pass by Merc when Max unchallenged moved over was hard to believe! That gave Merc a 3 second jump. Ferrari did a Binotto "Next Year!" finish; but I still have faith in our drivers for the next race to come back with points.

[tifosi1993]

so on a proper track it really shows how BAD our engine is and also our aero....
we're gonna get murdered in Spa and Monza.....and lapped for sure....SAD JUST SAD

So Spain, the quintessential F1 track, wasn't a proper F1 track? What about Imola/Portugal where we performed pretty well?

The problem was related to tyre graining. Both Ferrari's suffered front graining from the first lap. They need to investigate why.

[tpe]

And not just that.
I do believe that the engine has a big part on the performance drop.
Maybe it's a thirsty one?

[Toothlessrage*]

Honestly, I don't like criticizing the team.
In reality, each team in F1 goes through their own lows and highs.

But, wow.
Yesterday was just heartbreaking.
Been following F1 since '95, since '08 I've been hoping Ferrari gets their act together and finally work as a team.
But, with each passing year, each passing race, they always find a way to hit a new low.

Well, I guess they'll probably come back stronger the next race or next year.
At least I hope they do.

[aroutis]

So Spain, the quintessential F1 track, wasn't a proper F1 track? What about Imola/Portugal where we performed pretty well?

The problem was related to tyre graining. Both Ferrari's suffered front graining from the first lap. They need to investigate why.

Finally, someone said it.
Everything was down to the fact we just couldn 't find correct tyre balance, and that hurt us badly.
It had nothing to do with aero (btw we have one of the best aero packages) and while we don't have the best engines, it is not what hurt us on this track !

[aroutis]

Honestly, I don't like criticizing the team.
In reality, each team in F1 goes through their own lows and highs.

But, wow.
Yesterday was just heartbreaking.
Been following F1 since '95, since '08 I've been hoping Ferrari gets their act together and finally work as a team.
But, with each passing year, each passing race, they always find a way to hit a new low.

Well, I guess they'll probably come back stronger the next race or next year.
At least I hope they do.

I have been following the team since 1978. And I've seen worse, oh so much worse.

So quite honestly it'll be ok, live, learn, adjust , move on. It's a process !

[patrese86]

Dude, this year is over for Ferrari, you get that, right!? Next year is the clean sheet of paper, so nothing they can do with this years car.
You are really pulling that - I'm surprised you aren't on the pit wall already, throw in your CV and you might get a job - card?!?
Sorry but I am not celebrating mediocracy!

But your saying what is there to understand? Well lots. It's how we develop as people by getting a better understanding even if there is a clean slate next season we continue to learn and understand so we could do our job better, it helps us down the line.

[stefa]

But your saying what is there to understand? Well lots. It's how we develop as people by getting a better understanding even if there is a clean slate next season we continue to learn and understand so we could do our job better, it helps us down the line.

It seams they need a lot of time to understand.... It was great past tense now that 2008...

[Greig]

It seams they need a lot of time to understand.... It was great past tense now that 2008...

If you ignore the 2 titles we could well have won if Vettel did not mess up.....Alonso was pretty close twice as well. But we will forget that also I guess.

[ntukza]

Finally, someone said it.
Everything was down to the fact we just couldn 't find correct tyre balance, and that hurt us badly.
It had nothing to do with aero (btw we have one of the best aero packages) and while we don't have the best engines, it is not what hurt us on this track !

Nor the best engineers. Sainz said we've had issues with tyre deg since Bahrain testing. Our engineers don't strike me as the type that can get on top of problems. They take a whole season to solve an issue while other top teams solve issues in two weeks, sometimes even two days.

[ntukza]

I have been following the team since 1978. And I've seen worse, oh so much worse.

So quite honestly it'll be ok, live, learn, adjust , move on. It's a process !

Please tell me, have there been more ups than downs, or more downs than ups?

[paneristi]

Jean Todt joining Scuderia Ferrari was a turning point. Somewhat a resurrection point to be preserved.

[Greig]

Please tell me, have there been more ups than downs, or more downs than ups?

Ferrari have won 16 WCC, 6 of them when MS was at the team, Ferrari might have the highest WCC but they are not really that successful considering...

[paneristi]

7817
[

[stefa]

If you ignore the 2 titles we could well have won if Vettel did not mess up.....Alonso was pretty close twice as well. But we will forget that also I guess.

In a sea of bad results, couple of good seasons are easily forgotten. Any way history only remembers winners not second, third....

[stefa]

Please tell me, have there been more ups than downs, or more downs than ups?

See for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjFJ__q2vgE&t=169s

[JPMFerrari]

Jean Todt joining Scuderia Ferrari was a turning point. Somewhat a resurrection point to be preserved.

As well as bringing in Ross Brawn.

[FerrariF60]

As well as bringing in Ross Brawn.

dude, that chapter has been closed LONG AGO.....get over it....he ain't coming back

[JPMFerrari]

dude, that chapter has been closed LONG AGO.....get over it....he ain't coming back

Dude, I was just referring to the post about Jean Todt being a "turning point" in Ferrari history, I know Ross is not coming back to Ferrari.

[Brembo]

Nor the best engineers. Sainz said we've had issues with tyre deg since Bahrain testing. Our engineers don't strike me as the type that can get on top of problems. They take a whole season to solve an issue while other top teams solve issues in two weeks, sometimes even two days.

Well said!! When Binotto says over and over, Next year with regards to everything; the engineers have that freedom handed to them by the boss. They get the same pay while on hold till the next year. Like you so well said, two weeks even two days to solve issues is the norm outside of Binotto land.

[Rishu]

All credits to Red Bull and Honda

No credits to Max?

[jgonzalesm6]

No credits to Max?

That's a given. Horner "used" Perez (the master of tire preservation) to mess up Merecedes tire strategy to go for a one stopper ALL THE WHILE knowing full well Horner would pit Max for a 2 stopper......that's forward thinking. A masterstroke strategy.

No way Albon would have pulled this off at RedBull. RedBull FINALLY has a #2 driver and hopefully Perez get's an extention on his contract. "Hold my beer Lawrence Stroll!!!"

[chinmay]

That's a given. Horner "used" Perez (the master of tire preservation) to mess up Merecedes tire strategy to go for a one stopper ALL THE WHILE knowing full well Horner would pit Max for a 2 stopper......that's forward thinking. A masterstroke strategy.

No way Albon would have pulled this off at RedBull. RedBull FINALLY has a #2 driver and hopefully Perez get's an extention on his contract. "Hold my beer Lawrence Stroll!!!"

He would rather thank Stroll every day, because of his decision, Perez is now in a race win capable car.

[jgonzalesm6]

He would rather thank Stroll every day, because of his decision, Perez is now in a race win capable car.

Stroll hung Perez out to dry with no seat avaliable for Perez at any other team. Perez did alot for Force India aka Racing Point even suing Vijay Mallya and putting Force India into administration....luckly Stroll bought the team and made it AMRF1.

Lucky for Perez, Redbull made a decision with Albon and picked up Perez hence the "Hold my beer Stroll" qoute.

[20000rpm]

https://amp.formula1.com/en/latest/article.binotto-says-ferraris-paul-ricard-struggles-stemmed-from-issues-two-years.40f545lT6Yr03vKouJ0F92.html

Nothing new, but we have more difficult races on our plates. And the issue remains unresolved to this day!!

[stefa]

https://amp.formula1.com/en/latest/article.binotto-says-ferraris-paul-ricard-struggles-stemmed-from-issues-two-years.40f545lT6Yr03vKouJ0F92.html

Nothing new, but we have more difficult races on our plates. And the issue remains unresolved to this day!!

Binotto says Ferrari’s Paul Ricard struggles stemmed from issues ‘two years ago that we should have addressed’Great!!! And why didn't they?!!?!?!?

[aroutis]

Please tell me, have there been more ups than downs, or more downs than ups?

Why don't you go and do your own research?

[aroutis]

As well as bringing in Ross Brawn.

The whole team really.
But there are a lot of glory hunters really and it really gets boring from a point on, all this complaining honestly.

[FerrariF60]

Binotto says Ferrari’s Paul Ricard struggles stemmed from issues ‘two years ago that we should have addressed’Great!!! And why didn't they?!!?!?!?

exactly, this dates back to 2019 when we had a really strong engine, but our tire wear was way worse than others.....so yeah, if they knew about it, why did they NOT fix it???????????????

this year is a lost cause anyway, so they better work hard on developing a beast for 2022 both engine and chassis.....but somehow i'm not holding my breath....been disappointed way too many times before by the team.....:(

[aroutis]

Binotto says Ferrari’s Paul Ricard struggles stemmed from issues ‘two years ago that we should have addressed’Great!!! And why didn't they?!!?!?!?

Incompetent management

[Tony]

Incompetent management

Not trying to make excuses or anything, but there seems to be so many issues that it's hard to really address them all. Sometimes you fix an issue and cause other issues as a result. The engine issue in 2020 also derailed them quite a bit.

[bschock]

Stroll hung Perez out to dry with no seat avaliable for Perez at any other team. Perez did alot for Force India aka Racing Point even suing Vijay Mallya and putting Force India into administration....luckly Stroll bought the team and made it AMRF1.

Lucky for Perez, Redbull made a decision with Albon and picked up Perez hence the "Hold my beer Stroll" qoute.

I would add to that! To also thank Professor Wolff for him certain recommending Vettel to replace Perz, who do you think Pappa Stroll listened too? Now Professor Wolf is getting it up the A$$!!! as he should!

[JPMFerrari]

Incompetent management

It has gone on for years and years. You have to wonder if Ferrari only cares to participate in F1, but doesn't have the desire to be the top team.

[20000rpm]

It has gone on for years and years. You have to wonder if Ferrari only cares to participate in F1, but doesn't have the desire to be the top team.

This!!! I believe the only time we were competitive in recent times was under Sergio Marchionne and Ross Brawn.

[aroutis]

Not trying to make excuses or anything, but there seems to be so many issues that it's hard to really address them all. Sometimes you fix an issue and cause other issues as a result. The engine issue in 2020 also derailed them quite a bit.

Part of my job is root cause analysis and problem resolution. It's a complex work but the basic course of action is pretty much the same in every environment. Collect the issues and break them down to basic parts, then hunt down each one (assign to teams), make projects out of them if you will and follow up till you resolve them.
I believe Ferrari has the resources to do this.

[aroutis]

This!!! I believe the only time we were competitive in recent times was under Sergio Marchionne and Ross Brawn.
Don't you mean, under Sergio and Luca D. ?

[20000rpm]

Don't you mean, under Sergio and Luca D. ?

Yeah, I meant under Ross as TD or LdM as the overall chief.