British GP 2021 : Practice and Qualifying [Archive] - TheScuderia.net

wisepie

16th July 2021, 17:28

Probably the times are a bit meaningless as they only have an hour to set the cars up but here we are facing quali on a Friday evening...and our boys are P4 and P6. Strange weekend doesn't feel real to me and it's all a bit of a circus, but F1 as we know it is being seriously undermined.:roll

458 Italia

16th July 2021, 18:02

What the flip are they doing messing around with the format!!??

Just leave things alone!

jgonzalesm6

16th July 2021, 18:03

This whole format and schedule is all too weird.

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 18:38

This whole format and schedule is all too weird.

I agree. This weekend has just begun and I already dislike everything about it. Qualifying was the only part of F1 not broken, yet they keep trying to tinker with it. I just don't understand.

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 18:43

Normal systems resuming at Silverstone? Ham P1 with the new Pirelli spec tires.

FerrariF60

16th July 2021, 18:46

Normal systems resuming at Silverstone? Ham P1 with the new Pirelli spec tires.

ha, ha....well they cried to the FIA,,,,,a.ka..MIA and they gave them a better tire that suits them.....FOR THE GOOD OF THE SPORT OF COURSE.....

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 18:49

ha, ha....well they cried to the FIA,,,,,a.ka..MIA and they gave them a better tire that suits them.....FOR THE GOOD OF THE SPORT OF COURSE.....

Of course, always for the good of the sport. I mean, we had to put up with 7 years of 1 team/driver dominating. Yet nobody can handle a handful of races won by a different team other than Merc. Lets see what Q3 holds.....

hakanabi

16th July 2021, 18:52

Normal systems resuming at Silverstone? Ham P1 with the new Pirelli spec tires.

Merc is creating a hole in air for ham using bottas for slip stream

patrese86

16th July 2021, 18:58

Merc is creating a hole in air for ham using bottas for slip stream

Stop talking sense mate. Instead of using logic go for conspiracy theories. It's more fun.

SilverSpeed

16th July 2021, 18:59

Rus in front of both Ferrari's???

patrese86

16th July 2021, 19:01

Unbelievable from Charles

FerrariF60

16th July 2021, 19:02

Rus in front of both Ferrari's???

MERC engine mate

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 19:03

Stop talking sense mate. Instead of using logic go for conspiracy theories. It's more fun.

Its always conspiracy theories for the tifosi out in the UK. To many secret Hamilton fans that cant see past the smoke. FYI Hamilton did not get a tow on his last lap that landed him P1. Also worthy to note that Verstappen was complaining about the tires over the radio.

WOW - Brundle "its looking more 'normalized' at the front now. What a joke this sport is......

patrese86

16th July 2021, 19:04

Its always conspiracy theories for the tifosi out in the UK. To many secret Hamilton fans that cant see past the smoke. FYI Hamilton did not get a tow on his last lap that landed him P1. Also worthy to note that Verstappen was complaining about the tires over the radio.

WOW - Brundle "its looking more 'normalized' at the front now. What a joke this sport is......

Seek help.

Bottas just confirmed live on air he was told to punch a hole in the air to benefit Lewis on both timed laps.

jgonzalesm6

16th July 2021, 19:07

Superb drive by Leclerc.

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 19:07

Seek help.

No, I'm ok thanks. But you can go join the merc forums where you guys can all ooze on how great he is and be delusional together. :wave :thumb

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 19:08

Yes, phenomenal as usual from Leclerc. Forza Ferrari!!!

Tifoso Svedese

16th July 2021, 19:08

Hopefully the car is set up also for race trim but yeah great lap indeed.

tifosi1993

16th July 2021, 19:09

That was better than expected. Charles was phenomenal as usual, but Sainz should've done better. P9 behind a Williams is not a good performance. But tomorrow will decide the grid.

tifosi1993

16th July 2021, 19:11

https://i.imgur.com/UBtCmfx.jpg

patrese86

16th July 2021, 19:21

No, I'm ok thanks. But you can go join the merc forums where you guys can all ooze on how great he is and be delusional together. :wave :thumb

Where did I say he's great? You are clearly delusional as your either seeing words I've not wrote or your so defensive you think anyone who challenges your baseless theories must automatically support an opposing team.

I only support Ferrari and as much as I can't stand the likes of Hamilton, Toto (check my post history) and the constant fawning over him by media outlets and personalities I also don't let that effect how I view the FIA. Do you really think other team principals, owners and sponsors and even the drivers would happily go along with the decisions if they thought something underhanded was going on?

Just now some idiot on Channel 4 said Red Bull missed a tap in today and The mighty Hamilton found a way, don't let that sort of bullshi* narrative cloud everything. It's contagious too because half the forum prior to this weekend is talking about Hamilton and how the FIA have helped mercedes again. There's already this insecurity whenever something changes, it's not healthy.

stefa

16th July 2021, 19:31

What the flip are they doing messing around with the format!!??

Just leave things alone!

As I said on another thread, RIP F1

ferrari1.8t

16th July 2021, 19:33

Where did I say he's great? You are clearly delusional as your either seeing words I've not wrote or your so defensive you think anyone who challenges your baseless theories must automatically support an opposing team.

I only support Ferrari and as much as I can't stand the likes of Hamilton, Toto (check my post history) and the constant fawning over him by media outlets and personalities I also don't let that effect how I view the FIA. Do you really think other team principals, owners and sponsors and even the drivers would happily go along with the decisions if they thought something underhanded was going on?

Just now some idiot on Channel 4 said Red Bull missed a tap in today and The mighty Hamilton found a way, don't let that sort of bullshi* narrative cloud everything. It's contagious too because half the forum prior to this weekend is talking about Hamilton and how the FIA have helped mercedes again. There's already this insecurity whenever something changes, it's not healthy.

Have shady things not happened in the past? Have you been watching this season at all? Toto is responsible for the FIA making a rule change on pit stops and rear wings. So excuse me for believing that a tire change during the season could suddenly revive a struggling Mercedes....

Tifoso Svedese

16th July 2021, 23:54

The big elephant in the room is the collusion between certain teams and FIA to ban our all-conquering engine to shield the crying princess.

Brembo

17th July 2021, 01:14

Our favorite sport is now " F- Pirelli ". Teams that lose say it's the tires . The winner chose correctly ; and managed his tires and that's how he won.

ntukza

17th July 2021, 06:49

Stop talking sense mate. Instead of using logic go for conspiracy theories. It's more fun.

:lol

ntukza

17th July 2021, 06:52

... WOW - Brundle "its looking more 'normalized' at the front now. What a joke this sport is......

Also, at the end I think the other guy said this result is what Merc and Hamilton needed, I he replied by saying it's what the sport needed. Lol no it's not!

ntukza

17th July 2021, 06:55

Superb drive by Leclerc.

Absolutely! Nicely done.

Warp

17th July 2021, 08:48

Why do they even bother with FP2? The cars are under parc ferme already.

20000rpm

17th July 2021, 10:02

I seriously don't understand the actual significance of this format . Teams lose on development time and testing, add more costs incase of damage to the car. If they really want to introduce this format, I think 2-3 races with this should be fine. But no real gains here, tbh.

Brembo

17th July 2021, 10:09

Most every fan myself included is waiting for the results leading to the race 1.2 3, drivers more so than before. It worked !

ntukza

17th July 2021, 13:16

FP2 times please?

stefa

17th July 2021, 14:56

Most every fan myself included is waiting for the results leading to the race 1.2 3, drivers more so than before. It worked !

Just stop blabbing all the time!!!!

458 Italia

17th July 2021, 15:17

Just stop blabbing all the time!!!!

He can't help it, It's just what low level trolls do.

Tifoso Svedese

17th July 2021, 15:21

Most every fan myself included is waiting for the results leading to the race 1.2 3, drivers more so than before. It worked !

How's life at the goat farm Brembo? :-)

stefa

17th July 2021, 15:41

He can't help it, It's just what low level trolls do.

:thumb

tifosi1993

17th July 2021, 16:41

Pace is looking very strong

tifosi1993

17th July 2021, 16:45

Of course you can't do anything about Max. You no longer have a 1-second/lap car advantage over him. Equal machinery and he has no answer to Max.

stefa

17th July 2021, 16:46

So glad Max overtook LH

elnano14

17th July 2021, 16:48

Charles can get the 3rd

stefa

17th July 2021, 16:49

Charles can get the 3rd

VB is silightly faster

tifosi1993

17th July 2021, 16:52

Our fight is with Mclaren. And neither Mclaren have any answer to Charles's mega pace.

elnano14

17th July 2021, 16:52

Damn I wish this is pace we'll have tomorrow. The McLarens have no answer to us

stefa

17th July 2021, 16:53

MV front right doesnt look good

tifosi1993

17th July 2021, 16:55

Sainz ahead of Gasly. Now get Ocon and Russell, maybe Vettel and Alonso as well.

stefa

17th July 2021, 16:57

This sprint Q is pointless...

tifosi1993

17th July 2021, 17:00

Great effort from Charles, P4. Sainz was rather disappointing, P11.

patrese86

17th July 2021, 17:00

Great effort from Charles. A shame for Sainz as he could of been right on the McLaren's if not for the incident with Russell

Grimlock

17th July 2021, 17:02

This sprint Q is pointless...

Exactly my sentiment ... but I fear they will force it through anyway :(

Rishu

17th July 2021, 17:05

Alonso’s first lap was worth the race win

stefa

17th July 2021, 17:07

Exactly my sentiment ... but I fear they will force it through anyway :(

Unfortunatelly most probably

JacKy

17th July 2021, 17:07

Make sprint Race 30~ Laps
Only C1 and C5 tyres
And More point for winner

tifosi1993

17th July 2021, 17:07

Great effort from Charles. A shame for Sainz as he could of been right on the McLaren's if not for the incident with Russell

Should've qualified higher yesterday. It was his own poor effort yesterday that put him on the pack.

Rishu

17th July 2021, 17:11

I like Sprint Q, I’d take it any day against FP3 session

patrese86

17th July 2021, 17:18

Should've qualified higher yesterday. It was his own poor effort yesterday that put him on the pack.

Yeah true. He has such good race pace though (he's shown it this season for us) it's a shame he keeps finding himself lower in qualifying

WS6TransAm01

17th July 2021, 17:19

Although it was good to see Max over take Two-Chains McPander I’m not sure the juice is worth the squeeze here. I still don’t see a point to this sprint race and the schedule all all screwed up for those not living in the European time zone(s)

Kyss4k

17th July 2021, 17:19

I dunno... It's quite exciting, sure, but I somehow miss watching the progression of teams setting up the cars, testing different programes and only then, when ready, showing it all in quali and race. Maybe... Maybe if it was FP1 and FP2 on friday and then Quali and Sprint race on saturday? But that would go against their idea for each day to have some meaning. Whis I also don't like. Too much action is too much action.

458 Italia

17th July 2021, 18:06

It just looks like they trying to make their manufactured racing more exciting for more of the weekend which it just can't do. You can't polish a turd.

wisepie

17th July 2021, 18:14

It's a strange kind of GP weekend and they were lucky with the weather, imagine if Silverstone had been wet and windy over the three days, it would put a different spin on things with far more chance of accidents. Good for Max beating HAM and Charles did a great and controlled drive to P4. I worry in the real GP tomorrow that Mclaren are quick enough to take us in the DRS zones once the race settles, assuming we don't have the sort of problem Carlos had with Russell today.

458 Italia

17th July 2021, 18:33

stefa

17th July 2021, 18:39

It just looks like they trying to make their manufactured racing more exciting for more of the weekend which it just can't do. You can't polish a turd.

Exactly

KimiBot

17th July 2021, 19:01

It just looks like they trying to make their manufactured racing more exciting for more of the weekend which it just can't do. You can't polish a turd.

I guess F1 has been losing so many people over the past years, so they are like forced to do something to spice up this Circus. I dont know what to think about this new format.

jgonzalesm6

17th July 2021, 19:16

I guess F1 has been losing so many people over the past years, so they are like forced to do something to spice up this Circus. I dont know what to think about this new format.

yep. F1 is'nt really interested in the "older viewers" that have been watching F1 for 20 to 40 years. There target market are the milleninials and z-generation....unfortunatley that market has a "short attention" span so they are un-interested.

I really hope this format that we have seen at Silverstone fails. We have 2 more GP's with this same format. It's all in its testing phase.

458 Italia

17th July 2021, 19:39

yep. F1 is'nt really interested in the "older viewers" that have been watching F1 for 20 to 40 years. There target market are the milleninials and z-generation....unfortunatley that market has a "short attention" span so they are un-interested.

I really hope this format that we have seen at Silverstone fails. We have 2 more GP's with this same format. It's all in its testing phase.

I'm a "millennial" and I haven't liked any of the "enhancements" they've made over the last decade+.

jgonzalesm6

17th July 2021, 19:57

I'm a "millennial" and I haven't liked any of the "enhancements" they've made over the last decade+.

I'm speaking in a general sense. Good to hear.

Redfive

17th July 2021, 20:15

patrese86

17th July 2021, 20:31

F1 much like football has become micro managed. They are only concerned with how they can attract new viewers and don't care for the older viewers. I started watching F1 because I was attracted to the technical side and also the natural ability of the drivers. But I didn't want there every thought broadcast to the viewers, or hearing what the team principals think. The rise of social media has given people a sense of entitlement, and skewed perception over what they perceive as entertainment.

elnano14

17th July 2021, 20:55

I don't know know how to feel about it. It's not great, but it isn't terrible either, just so unnecessary

Rob

17th July 2021, 22:04

6 hours of Monza tomorrow should be a good watch!

If I can find it to watch that is, doesn't look like it's on any TV channel.

Motorsport.tv is the way I watch wec. Its 3.99 or 4.99 a month.

458 Italia

17th July 2021, 23:04

Motorsport.tv is the way I watch wec. Its 3.99 or 4.99 a month.

I really should just pay for it, I mean I pay for DAZN boxing every month. It just seems the way to watch anything you actually want to watch you need a separate subscriptions for.

Tifoso Svedese

17th July 2021, 23:32

Just watched it after giving the live a miss for a 50-mile bike ride. I think Charles should be able to drive away from Norris if he gets to stay ahead at the start and if not pass him at the pitstop. He had amazing pace in comparison even after Norris made it past Alonso.

Carlos was unlucky that Russell messed the situation up but is still in a spot where he could challenge the McLarens with the right strategy tomorrow provided he gets away well.

The highlight was obviously Verstappen obliterating Hammy at the start, I hope he can do it again because if Mercedes lose on one of their big tracks then they're in serious trouble.

Brembo

18th July 2021, 03:38

Come race time it's not safe for any driver in the top 10 to have Russell near them. He needs more skill time still in the back before he can safely drive among the fast cars. He's trying too soon with aggressive driving not having enough experience from F-2 and F-1 back rows. He needs to please stay away from Ferrari's boys. He want's that Merc seat at any cost! Crashing is not the way to do it. He's for sure no Max.

JacKy

18th July 2021, 10:09

After lando overtake Alonso, leclerc’s pace avg 0.3 sec faster than lando. I am sure we can stay ahead mclaren’s but unfortunetly for sainz 0.3 sec pace is not enough to overtake here. 4-7 likely to best result for us.

wisepie

18th July 2021, 12:07

Watched it, tried to be unbiased and open minded. but, nope I didn't enjoy it and I far prefer the normal qualifying.

Liberty seem to be making bad decisions one after another, I know some people hated him but my god I wish Bernie was still in charge!

I feel the same and it's all very well having to pay Sky for their F1 channel but I get really annoyed with the inane questions they ask the drivers, it's all become too PC obsessed and the drivers can't say what they'd like to say either! The team principals are just as bad, all I want is to see the quali and race as before, preferably with two red cars somewhere near the front. Liberty are turning it into a US-style circus and I'm surprised Brawn and Domenicali went with it, but they're under pressure to up the fan base with younger viewers, which I seriously doubt will happen unless it all becomes virtual!! Good luck to our ragazzi today, anyway.

Tifoso Svedese

18th July 2021, 12:51

Carlos will have to hope for the race pace advantage on high fuel being even bigger than on low fuel. I think it could be a wise move to start him on hards to run deep into the race before doing a one-stopper. I think a lot of teams that have gone for low DF settings will struggle a lot with the mediums after 15 laps on high fuel. Already yesterday there were plenty of blisters so I do believe he could pick up a lot of spots that way.

For Charles, his race is about getting away well enough to remain in P4 and then just do his own race from there.