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jgonzalesm6
29th August 2021, 12:46
Let's hope for a clean race.

Kyss4k
29th August 2021, 13:29
Lol Perez already out of the race crashing in the warmup before the race.

jgonzalesm6
29th August 2021, 13:32
C'mon Checo....really!!

Tifoso Svedese
29th August 2021, 13:34
Lol Perez already out of the race crashing in the warmup before the race.

If only Bottler had done the same last time...

Either way, I don't understand why driver push on laps to the grid. Makes no sense to me.

Tifoso Svedese
29th August 2021, 13:35
So that's P8 and P10 now then? Going places.

elnano14
29th August 2021, 13:45
Is there interview from our drivers/team after yesterday's qualifying ?

stefa
29th August 2021, 13:47
Looking at the weather, todays cars, standards, there will be more laps under SC than actual racing

KimiBot
29th August 2021, 13:55
Interesting race I guess, maybe we have a change to podium now when raining.

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 13:57
Oh well after Lemans last week ready for another big disappointment.

stefa
29th August 2021, 13:59
It is going to be roulette. Let's hope RED is the color to bet!

Greig
29th August 2021, 13:59
Delayed start

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:00
Delayed start

Doubt they will race at all today

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:05
Thumbs up to all supporters out there on the track!

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:06
Again delay

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:09
15:20

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 14:14
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:15
It is not just rain, visibility is very poor also

Greig
29th August 2021, 14:15
15.25

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:16
15:25

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:18
Clouds are descending on track...

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:22
Don't know for how much longer they can delay, as it is getting darker

drax
29th August 2021, 14:24
I have a bad feeling about this

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:24
Even when they, if they, start this race, it'll be red flagged very soon

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 14:25
At least Max will be happy...

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:26
Here we go

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 14:26
No visibility so don't expect they go.

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:28
So, what are the options, if they cancel race today?

Tifoso Svedese
29th August 2021, 14:28
Another great advertisment for Pirelli's wet tyres. Aquaplanning behind the safety car :rotfl

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:29
Listening to the drivers, there will be no racing today

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:30
MV: "For me it is fine to race"

Greig
29th August 2021, 14:31
start suspended

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:32
Suspended

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:38
Who said yesterday Ferrari gambled with dry weather set up? :rotfl

Warp
29th August 2021, 14:43
Who said yesterday Ferrari gambled with dry weather set up? :rotfl

Me! I think Mercedes did the same! :lol

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:44
Me! I think Mercedes did the same! :lol

Regarding Mercedes, with that car and engine, they can do whatever they choose to do!

Warp
29th August 2021, 14:51
Some Ferrari shots : https://streamja.com/Q31OX

stefa
29th August 2021, 14:56
Some Ferrari shots : https://streamja.com/Q31OX

I've stopped breathing when they ware showing that slow motion with Ferrari in it

Warp
29th August 2021, 15:07
I've stopped breathing when they ware showing that slow motion with Ferrari in it

Terrible conditions mate and it doesn't seem it will stop anytime soon. :-s

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:08
Terrible conditions mate and it doesn't seem it will stop anytime soon. :-s

Agree

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:09
Don't see how this race is going to happen today?!

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 15:13
So oké, I went to the toilet while waiting and I crossed Lewis on my way out.

He talked about my dump here:

https://streamja.com/ZpPK3

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:16
SP will be allowed to join the race if they fix the car in time. From pit lane.

JChan
29th August 2021, 15:23
did you guys observed Binotto eyeglass is not round anymore, maybe he's not liking calling him harry potter

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:30
Actually it is not raining that heavy, I remember races with far more rain, but visibility is very poor

hakanabi
29th August 2021, 15:30
did you guys observed Binotto eyeglass is not round anymore, maybe he's not liking calling him harry potter

Lol :lol

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:32
If they start, it'll be 39 laps race

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:37
Red Bull has finished SP car reparation

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:39
At 18:00, whatsoever it'll be THE END!!!

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:44
Don't now why they don't just cancel this and move it for tomorrow. This is torture for everyone!

Lesky
29th August 2021, 15:50
Don't now why they don't just cancel this and move it for tomorrow. This is torture for everyone!

Cant race tomorow because lack of marshalls. They go to their actual jobs on monday. They all volunteers with normal jobs during the week.

stefa
29th August 2021, 15:53
So, most probably, at some point SC will lead the cars fot two laps, than they will show red flag, stop the race, and give them half points.

stefa
29th August 2021, 16:02
C'mon! Just stop it! What is the point!?!

hakanabi
29th August 2021, 16:04
They used to race in similar conditions for entire race under constant rain, what has formula 1 became to?

stefa
29th August 2021, 16:08
They used to race in similar conditions for entire race under constant rain, what has formula 1 became to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6UjDBnYEVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4wBUeZ5Hjc&t=436s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R22nxVYLaBQ

stefa
29th August 2021, 16:10
Knowing how car parking's looks like at Hungaroring, plain field, I cannot image what a mess is now at SPA!?

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:10
We are getting some racing!

Greig
29th August 2021, 17:11
SC race for half points....

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:12
SC race for half points....

Imagine the disappointment of all those people out there if that happens!?

Lesky
29th August 2021, 17:15
Whats the song played called? I NEED to know!

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:19
One hour countdown

Greig
29th August 2021, 17:27
Congrats Max on the win :-D

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:27
As expected. Red flag!

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:27
Congrats Max on the win :-D

:rotfl

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:28
Will they refund half the price of tickets to these poor souls there?

ntukza
29th August 2021, 17:28
What a waste of time. ��

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:29
So I was not right yesterday. We got 2 points :-D

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:30
What a waste of time. ��

COLLOSAL!!!

Lesky
29th August 2021, 17:30
Mazepin with the fastest lap!

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:31
Williams on podium since God knows when

Hornet
29th August 2021, 17:31
Shame the weather is rotten today.
This has always been one of the race i look forward to every year

Feel bad for all the fans out there who held out until now

stefa
29th August 2021, 17:31
Mazepin with the fastest lap!

Unlucky for him, he is outside from top ten. No points

Tifoso Svedese
29th August 2021, 17:38
Absolutely ridiculous that any points are handed out for this farce.

Hornet
29th August 2021, 17:41
Absolutely ridiculous that any points are handed out for this farce.

If the race is not possible, then the drivers should get some points based on their qualifying result.
Which I guess is what we have here, which IMO is fine. If thats what it takes to give the driver points, then so be it.

Greig
29th August 2021, 17:44
Race over

drax
29th August 2021, 17:49
And they are doing a podium ceremony? This race was a clown show … they should have just cancelled it or delayed it.

Greig
29th August 2021, 17:54
Lewis is right fans should be refunded, maybe the drivers can make it happen......

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 17:57
Gratz to Russell he held off Lewis!!!:rotfl

tifosi1993
29th August 2021, 17:58
Most exciting race of 2021! :nana

ntukza
29th August 2021, 18:12
By the way Brembo, Russell put it on P2 in qualifying, IN A WILLIAMS, and ended off with a podium, IN A WILLIAMS. You must be thoroughly disappointed.

wisepie
29th August 2021, 18:13
Feel so sorry for those fans who paid good money and stayed in the cold to see a safety car display...the only upside is that I think we got 2pts for Charles and 0.5pts for Carlos after the farce that we all endured, better than 2 trips off-piste I suppose, and only thanks to PER/BOT and NOR getting penalties and if we'd got quali strategy right, it could have been more. But the whole day was a big let-down and really quite embarrassing, although I didn't think it was safe to race in those atrocious conditions. What chance of Zandvoort being rain-free?!:-??

paolo lalli
29th August 2021, 18:13
The race could have been cancelled or even run the following day,its not that f1 is on a tight schedule corona virus has sorted that out, with many races cancelled for this season you would think that the clowns running the circus would make each race a priority.Seems like they just want to see the backside of the season and get it over and done with,you have to feel for the fans who attended a real let down refund please.

stefa
29th August 2021, 18:15
By the way Brembo, Russell put it on P2 in qualifying, IN A WILLIAMS, and ended off with a podium, IN A WILLIAMS. You must be thoroughly disappointed.

DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!!!

stefa
29th August 2021, 18:15
The race could have been cancelled or even run the following day,its not that f1 is on a tight schedule corona virus has sorted that out, with many races cancelled for this season you would think that the clowns running the circus would make each race a priority.Seems like they just want to see the backside of the season and get it over and done with,you have to feel for the fans who attended a real let down refund please.

Couldnt agree more

ntukza
29th August 2021, 18:15
And they are doing a podium ceremony? This race was a clown show … they should have just cancelled it or delayed it.

They pretty much did cancel it. Two laps and then calling it off is pretty much the same thing. What more do you want?

ntukza
29th August 2021, 18:18
The race could have been cancelled or even run the following day,its not that f1 is on a tight schedule corona virus has sorted that out, with many races cancelled for this season you would think that the clowns running the circus would make each race a priority.Seems like they just want to see the backside of the season and get it over and done with,you have to feel for the fans who attended a real let down refund please.

Everyone can have their own opinion. Unfortunately not everyone is in charge. It's life. What happened today is no one's fault. I'm disappointed that I waited three weeks and then didn't get a race, but it is what it is.

stefa
29th August 2021, 18:26
Everyone can have their own opinion. Unfortunately not everyone is in charge. It's life. What happened today is no one's fault. I'm disappointed that I waited three weeks and then didn't get a race, but it is what it is.

I cannot remember when was the last time like this. Closes that pops to my mind is Australia 1991. To be fair they did 14 laps of racing then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ps29eT1_rs

ntukza
29th August 2021, 18:31
Feel so sorry for those fans who paid good money and stayed in the cold to see a safety car display...the only upside is that I think we got 2pts for Charles and 0.5pts for Carlos after the farce that we all endured, better than 2 trips off-piste I suppose, and only thanks to PER/BOT and NOR getting penalties and if we'd got quali strategy right, it could have been more. But the whole day was a big let-down and really quite embarrassing, although I didn't think it was safe to race in those atrocious conditions. What chance of Zandvoort being rain-free?!:-??

I'm not sure about embarrassing as it wasn't anyone's fault, but definitely a huge let-down.

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 18:45
I cannot remember when was the last time like this. Closes that pops to my mind is Australia 1991. To be fair they did 14 laps of racing then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ps29eT1_rs

Didn't the race lasted for 16 laps?

Liscia
29th August 2021, 18:55
I KNEW IT!! Just kept tabs on the computer and haven't even turned on the tv. Spa and Monza are my 2 favorites
but today was RIDICULOUS and I hope for a race (at least) in Monza? The Ham's lead is eroded and no one was hurt
so all's well that ends all wet!!

aroutis
29th August 2021, 19:18
Huge mismanagement. They could have racee 3 laps behind the safety car right from the car and call it quits since they could see the weather would not improve but no. They kept torturing everyone , fans and people alike for what?

The failure of this race goes beyond usa 2005.

SilverSpeed
29th August 2021, 19:45
At least we got points eh, something we normally shouldn't have had in a race.

SS454
29th August 2021, 20:12
I don't blame them for not racing, the visibility was next to impossible and would have been extremely dangerous.

I just can't believe they didn't even attempt to race on Monday. That's the joke that F1 is. People were complaining about logistics. Sorry, but they were going from Spa to Zandvoort. It's a less than 4 hour drive! Nascar drives across the USA every weekend!! If the time it takes to load and unload the circus takes that long, then maybe it's time for the sport to look at reducing the cost and over the top luxury that goes on behind the scenes. Do teams really need these $50 million dollar rolling hotels to eat soup in?

DJTaurus
29th August 2021, 20:19
So red bull saved their engine for one race.

stefa
29th August 2021, 20:50
Didn't the race lasted for 16 laps?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Australian_Grand_Prix

It lasted for 16 laps, but used the order from 14th lap as a final result.

aroutis
29th August 2021, 21:00
I don't blame them for not racing, the visibility was next to impossible and would have been extremely dangerous.

I just can't believe they didn't even attempt to race on Monday. That's the joke that F1 is. People were complaining about logistics. Sorry, but they were going from Spa to Zandvoort. It's a less than 4 hour drive! Nascar drives across the USA every weekend!! If the time it takes to load and unload the circus takes that long, then maybe it's time for the sport to look at reducing the cost and over the top luxury that goes on behind the scenes. Do teams really need these $50 million dollar rolling hotels to eat soup in?
There are people that work for the races we see in the weekend that cannot work on Monday.
How would that work ?

Greig
29th August 2021, 22:36
I don't blame them for not racing, the visibility was next to impossible and would have been extremely dangerous.

I just can't believe they didn't even attempt to race on Monday. That's the joke that F1 is. People were complaining about logistics. Sorry, but they were going from Spa to Zandvoort. It's a less than 4 hour drive! Nascar drives across the USA every weekend!! If the time it takes to load and unload the circus takes that long, then maybe it's time for the sport to look at reducing the cost and over the top luxury that goes on behind the scenes. Do teams really need these $50 million dollar rolling hotels to eat soup in?

I am sure the teams could easily have raced a day later, not so sure the marshalls could just not turn up for work cause you wanted to see a race though :-)

jgonzalesm6
29th August 2021, 23:14
I don't blame them for not racing, the visibility was next to impossible and would have been extremely dangerous.

I just can't believe they didn't even attempt to race on Monday. That's the joke that F1 is. People were complaining about logistics. Sorry, but they were going from Spa to Zandvoort. It's a less than 4 hour drive! Nascar drives across the USA every weekend!! If the time it takes to load and unload the circus takes that long, then maybe it's time for the sport to look at reducing the cost and over the top luxury that goes on behind the scenes. Do teams really need these $50 million dollar rolling hotels to eat soup in?

1.) Logistics....which you mentioned.
2.) F1 just started a triple header.
3.) Forecast for Spa on Monday is the same for Sunday.....gloomy and raining....so Monday would'nt work.

Fyi, all the top 10 got half the points alotted because the drivers did'nt do a full race....so drivers and teams have a .5 next to their points.

Brembo
30th August 2021, 00:11
Everyone can have their own opinion. Unfortunately not everyone is in charge. It's life. What happened today is no one's fault. I'm disappointed that I waited three weeks and then didn't get a race, but it is what it is.

I'm sure Russell is one happy driver!! And his fans got to see him on the podium! Williams is back! If this keeps up it may be Russell @ Merc with Lewis replacing Bottas as #2 !

WS6TransAm01
30th August 2021, 00:46
I knew that I would be driving home 460 miles today and would be unable to see the race. I was so upset since Spa is my favorite track.

Looks like I didn’t miss anything.

Shame for the fans and those who sat at home waiting for something to happen.

SS454
30th August 2021, 02:18
There are people that work for the races we see in the weekend that cannot work on Monday.
How would that work ?

I forgot the Marshals are volunteers. It certainly wouldn't be realistic to find and train replacements in half a day.

If Monday was going to be just as bad of weather, then it wouldn't make any difference anyways.

aroutis
30th August 2021, 06:18
I'm sure Russell is one happy driver!! And his fans got to see him on the podium! Williams is back! If this keeps up it may be Russell @ Merc with Lewis replacing Bottas as #2 !

It must hurt you to see P2 George, P3 Lewis.

Brembo
30th August 2021, 08:29
It must hurt you to see P2 George, P3 Lewis.

Not really. 2 1/2 years to get some points with his Williams. The best to him. Sir Lewis with a date with 8. I wished Ferrari on the podium even though a 3 lap race is a first for me. Charles is pushing real hard every race. He for sure wants that seat come 2023. I was at the Indy 2005 race with 8 cars if I remember correctly. I got a refund for my tickets and used it for the next race. This 3 lap race was a first for me to see. Be ready for the posts coming to tell you to " Stop feeding me!! " :rotfl .

Tony
31st August 2021, 18:36
I would have been quite upset if I paid to watch 2 laps under the SC, I totally understand the safety concerns and don't blame them for red flagging the race, but I think they could have moved the race to another day for the benefit of the fans.