Dutch GP 2021 : Practices and Qualifying

[jgonzalesm6]

Weather lloks nice today.

The atmosphere is crazy......and packed with people.

[tifosi1993]

I guess those marshals are only here for Max. Can't even clear a stranded car.

[jgonzalesm6]

I guess those marshals are only here for Max. Can't even clear a stranded car.

The green light on the t-bar is'nt on so the marxhalls cannot touch the car.

[tifosi1993]

The green light on the t-bar is'nt on so the marxhalls cannot touch the car.

I am sure they have access to insulator gloves. This is not the first time for a F1 to be stranded with ERS light on, but on other tracks where marshals are competent, they get clear out quite fast.

[jgonzalesm6]

30 minutes to remove a car off the track is lengthy due to an electrical current issue.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.imgur.com/fu0AYGQ.jpg

[Tifoso Svedese]

One-lap pace looked very good but unclear whether that could mean a car in the second row yet. Hungary qualifying was a major disappointment after all.

[jgonzalesm6]

The crowd cheers when Lewis stops his car by the side of the track.

This crowd is mega-crazy.

[WS6TransAm01]

Another Red-Flag.

Seems like they are Red Flag happy lately. The car is off the track... get back to it. WTH?

[WS6TransAm01]

The crowd cheers when Lewis stops his car by the side of the track.

This crowd is mega-crazy.

Sky is complaining that the crown cheered. Whaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaa

Bunch of man babies. LOL

[Tifoso Svedese]

Well at least it wasn't a crash they cheered :lol Hopefully Hammy's weekend will be a bit compromised with less running. Doubt we can pounce but never say never - remember the street circuits for example.

[WS6TransAm01]

LOL Karun standing there in a mask surrounded by marshals without masks lol

Holy virtue signaling batman

AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Just take it off already dude. Stop the charade.

[jgonzalesm6]

Turn 3.....Max taking the high line.

[killer]

Such a great track. Looks very rewarding for the drivers and it shows the performance these cars are capable of. Braking distances and direction changes are insane.

[jgonzalesm6]

Quali is going to be important. Overtaking looks difficult.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I think they should stop the clock for a maximum of 10-15 minutes during red flags during practice. It's a bit stupid like this.

[WS6TransAm01]

How many red flags will this race have? 10? 15?

This is ridiculous.

[jgonzalesm6]

Ferrari looking good at this track.

[patrese86]

Disrupted session somewhat. Hard to read into that but I'd be leaning towards good single lap pace and poor race pace on the softs at least anyway. Will have to bin those early.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.imgur.com/94gig0u.jpg

[tifosi1993]

Long runs

Leclerc (Mediums)
1:16.756
1:16.220
1:16.067
1:15.916
1:15.660
1:15.726
X

Sainz (Softs)
1:15.778
1:16.012
1:16.195
X
1:15.979
X
X

[patrese86]

Thanks for the info tifosi1993

[gump1480]

Long runs

Leclerc (Mediums)
1:16.756
1:16.220
1:16.067
1:15.916
1:15.660
1:15.726
X

Sainz (Softs)
1:15.778
1:16.012
1:16.195
X
1:15.979
X
X

Thanks for this data...how does it compare to the front runners?

[stefa]

So, are we genuine good, or....?

[WS6TransAm01]

So, are we genuine good, or....?

Hard to say with the session being interrupted so much.

Max and Two Chains Take-A-Knee never got a good run at it.

Horner thinks Max would have at least matched Charles's's's's's time.

[wisepie]

Don't want to get too excited but we look promising enough on the softs, less so the mediums as usual, track looks quite narrow and twisty and the risk of SC intervention possibly high, so it will be essential to get decent grid positions and quali may be a bit of a lottery with traffic. Looks as if it will be dry over the weekend, but on a circuit like this, anything could happen. Good job by Charles and Carlos this afternoon.

[Liscia]

I'd forgotten how beautifully flowing Zandvoort is and hope our team can make the most of it this weekend!

[Tifoso Svedese]

For me, success tomorrow would be to lock out the second row on the grid. Charles in particular has beaten the Bottler fair and square on a good few occasions this year and Carlos looks to be rather close to him just missing about a tenth.

[tifosi1993]

Thanks for this data...how does it compare to the front runners?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-XenpyXoAgNkfc?format=png&name=medium

https://twitter.com/tonisokolov1011/status/1433797347855765509/photo/1

[20000rpm]

Qualifying can be tricky if someone gets a spin or a visit to the gravel, then red flag for sure. Boys need to set good time at the earliest. Given how narrow the track is, setting times could be difficult if there is traffic on the track.

[jgonzalesm6]

Kimi tests positive for COVID-19.

Kubica to replace Kimi for the DutchGP.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max to report to the stewards for overtaking under Red Flag under FP2.

[stefa]

Walk down through a memory lane...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S-jXK0RD6s

[Tifoso Svedese]

Kubica will be in a hopeless position with no Friday running and has barely driven the car. Hope he's not in anyone's way during Q1.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max to report to the stewards for overtaking under Red Flag under FP2.


Max was coming at high speed as he was doing his fast lap, while Stroll was very slow just to let Max overtake him. As soon as Max saw the red flag, he tried to slow down. Nothing Max could do after watching the video.

[jgonzalesm6]

Kubica will be in a hopeless position with no Friday running and has barely driven the car. Hope he's not in anyone's way during Q1.

Maybe. This track is very demanding even though Kubica is "almost" driving with one arm. It will be very demanding for him during the race.

[patrese86]

Max did nothing wrong. Stroll was on a slow lap and as soon as the reds came on he slowed. Of course all this was instigated by Anthony Davidson employed by both mercedes and sky F1, so definitely super impartial guy with no agenda.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max did nothing wrong. Stroll was on a slow lap and as soon as the reds came on he slowed. Of course all this was instigated by Anthony Davidson employed by both mercedes and sky F1, so definitely super impartial guy with no agenda.

Agreed (bold area)

Garry Connelly is one o the stewards and he loves Max.....not!!!

[KimiBot]

No penalty for that, nothing he could do to avoid overtaking.

[KimiBot]

No penalty confirmed and nice weather and Ferrari is hyperfast :thumb

[patrese86]

Oh for crying out loud.

[KimiBot]

no worries, team will fix that

[elnano14]

Of course, when it's a track that our cars are fast, this **** happens...

[gump1480]

Oh for crying out loud.

Hopefully gearbox is ok ..but really whenever we look good our drivers make one or the other mistake. Never getting clean weekend

[ntukza]

Ah great! :(

[patrese86]

Hopefully gearbox is ok ..but really whenever we look good our drivers make one or the other mistake. Never getting clean weekend

Yeah I feel like this. There's always a mistake waiting to happen. Maybe the car is just too unpredictable

[KimiBot]

Maybe the car is just too unpredictable

Charles said yesterday something like "grip was amazing"..but not today maybe :-D

[stefa]

Such a nice race track! Old school rocks!!!!

[KimiBot]

Such a nice race track! Old school rocks!!!!

Yes, really, drivers track, Alonso P1

[stefa]

Tracks like these are 100 times better than souless Herman Tilke tracks!!!

[KimiBot]

so we have to wait few more hours to really see how good we are here today
always love these tracks where a driver can make a difference

[patrese86]

Little disheartened after that. Didn't expect to have the pace of RBR and Mercedes but thought we could of been a bit quicker. Still maybe we have something left in the bag, I hope..

[ntukza]

FP3 doesn't paint a good picture for us.

[PURE PASSION]

So yesterday was some kind of glory run in FP2 .
This timeshit reflects yesterday's race pace so this might be our true pace/position!!!
And Lec made almost the same time as yesterday. Is that more or less the best we can do ?????!!!

[wisepie]

So Carlos has binned it, hoping it can be rebuilt before quali and no gearbox issues, pace also looking disappointing after FP2 glory, but maybe trying to establish long run pace, except that one of our cars is now missing.:Hmm

[Noquarter]

I never rated Sainz highly. I hope he won't be a Ferrari driver for a long time

[Redfive]

I never rated Sainz highly. I hope he won't be a Ferrari driver for a long time

Really?? jeez, I think you'll find Charles has binned it more times than Carlos this season.
I just hope it can be fixed for qually.

[Hornet]

I never rated Sainz highly. I hope he won't be a Ferrari driver for a long time

Eh, Sainz actually isn't that far from Charles. Their performance difference is one of the closest we've had.
Compared to Red Bull and Merc, we actually have a good pair of drivers, which will matter if and when we are able to fight for the title.

[killer]

FP3 doesn't paint a good picture for us.

They’ve usually tried out the race set up in FP3.

[KimiBot]

6 Carlos Sainz ESP FERRARI 83.5
7 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 82

Sainz is not bad.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Charles didn't improve on yesterday's time on a faster track and took multiple flying laps on the same set of softs with quite some fuel in the tank, there's obviously some time in hand.

[jgonzalesm6]

I never rated Sainz highly. I hope he won't be a Ferrari driver for a long time

FIFY

I never rated the SF21 highly, I hope it won't be a Ferrari car for a long time.

[jgonzalesm6]

Still working on Carlos car......

[elnano14]

Decent laps from our both drivers

[jgonzalesm6]

Charles with a 1:09.......very nice.

[jgonzalesm6]

Perez.....no where near Max at this track. Out of Q2. sheeeesh.

Blocked by traffic???

[Lesky]

The amount of patience and excuses for Perez is shocking, the guy has been terrible all season long session after session, getting spanked by VER and both the Mercedes 99% of the time. He should not be in that Red Bull, period. One of the biggest wastes of a seat ever.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max is just too fast.

[Lesky]

Max is just too fast.

Perez has a better car in his hands than Albon & Gasly and is getting more beaten, its a joke. The Merc is the best car easily, Max outperforming Hamilton & Bottas by miles in summary of the season.

[jgonzalesm6]

Great job by both Ferrari drivers.....in the 1:09's.

[elnano14]

What a mega lap from Charles

[Tifoso Svedese]

Hope they don't waste another set for Charles he needs two fresh ones for Q3 now that Russell is gone and Lafiti has lost a set there should be zero risk of him being below the cut-off.

[elnano14]

Lando out of Q2

[WS6TransAm01]

This is a joke, right?

It has to be.

[patrese86]

Well at least we are in Q3

[ferrari1.8t]

Gotta give it to RedBull for constantly pushing Merc….on the radio complaining to the FIA about Merc warming tires.

[WS6TransAm01]

Gotta give it to RedBull for constantly pushing Merc….on the radio complaining to the FIA about Merc warming tires.

Merc complains about everything, so why not?

[ferrari1.8t]

Merc complains about everything, so why not?

Exactly.

[patrese86]

Not sure we can find 2 tenths to beat gasly

[Tifoso Svedese]

Losing to Gasly :-s

[KimiBot]

Not sure we can find 2 tenths to beat gasly

That really looks depressing, lol. We cant beat Gasly.

[stefa]

5th and 6th behind Alpha Tauri?!?

[ferrari1.8t]

Lol crofty more excited that Hamilton is on the first row than that Verstappen got pole. lol

Too bad ferrari couldnt get higher up…should be a good race tomorrow. Great looking track.

[Tifoso Svedese]

My feeling is that Charles overdrove in Q3 but hopefully he can compensate off the clean side tomorrow and take those valuable 12 points and hopefully Carlos can grab at least 8.

[jgonzalesm6]

Congrats Max. Mega lap!!!! P1

Great job by the Ferrari drivers.

[gump1480]

Was the Q3 lap by Leclerc better or worse than his Q2 time? Lost to Gasly... frustrating

[stefa]

It is going to be one very interesting start of the race tomorrow

[KimiBot]

Lewis: Best crowd ever...:-D

[ferrari1.8t]

Lewis: Best crowd ever...:-D

lol. Someone should tell Sky that booing is a part of every sport…stop making a big deal of it because it’s directed at Ham.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Either way, maybe Vasseur should threaten to fire Giovinazzi every week :rotfl

[tifosi1993]

Qualifying went better than expected. I think P4 is on the cusp here. I want both Charles and Sainz to hold their position at the start, just don't lose the track position.

GIO is the star of today's qualifying.

[elnano14]

Good qualifying from both drivers. Could have been better with the P4.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.imgur.com/9ljARNF.jpg

[tifosi1993]

We're losing that last bit of oomph in the qualifying. That power upgrade can't come soon enough.

[PURE PASSION]

Was expecting more in Q3 .Lec was the only one who couldn't do better then his Q2 lap!!!! Anyway I think that P4 was our maximum today so nothing too bad !!!!
Let's see what happens tomorrow.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Gaining between 17-20 points on McLaren tomorrow would be very important. With the engine upgrades probably both cars would be right around where Bottas is.

Either way now that the Bottler ain't got nothing to lose anymore, I hope he lunges wildly at the start tomorrow like a young Max would and maybe takes out both cars but especially his team mate :lol Imagine the scenes.

[elnano14]

How the hell did Giovinazzi put that Alfa in P7 and only 0.063s slower than Charles lmao

[patrese86]

How the hell did Giovinazzi put that Alfa in P7 and only 0.063s slower than Charles lmao

Good lap. Much like Gasly, I'm hoping they've sacrificed race pace more then ourselves.

[ntukza]

The amount of patience and excuses for Perez is shocking, the guy has been terrible all season long session after session, getting spanked by VER and both the Mercedes 99% of the time. He should not be in that Red Bull, period. One of the biggest wastes of a seat ever.

I feel bad for Perez. He's quite badly behind compared to Max. Max is so good that Red Bull should either settle for a big gap between their two drivers or go hard for someone like Russell or Norris.

[ntukza]

Gotta give it to RedBull for constantly pushing Merc….on the radio complaining to the FIA about Merc warming tires.

Pity that Ferrari is not doing this. But to be fair it's understandable at the moment. We need to focus on getting our stuff together and getting back to the front and then we can be bullish again.

[ntukza]

Lewis: Best crowd ever...:-D

I'm sure a lot of you are not going to like this, but I like how Lewis actually acknowledged the fans positively while Max on the other hand said nothing at all to the fans.

[ntukza]

I'm very satisfied with our position overall. For sure some of the practise sessions gave us more hope but generally I think we achieved a good qualifying result. Well done to Sainz for putting it together despite the FP3 crash.

[JPMFerrari]

Watch Max and Lewis knock each other out of the race in the opening lap. :-D

[Liscia]

Great effort by our team and hopefully they'll stay out of trouble in the race and finish as they started if not better.
At this point anybody but Ham or MB on pole elates me also congratulations to Ver on his pole at home which he'll savor
for the rest of his life!

[ntukza]

Watch Max and Lewis knock each other out of the race in the opening lap. :-D

If anything, I think they'll both be more careful not to crash into each other. I highly doubt either of them would want a repeat of Silverstone.

[wisepie]

Qualifying went better than expected. I think P4 is on the cusp here. I want both Charles and Sainz to hold their position at the start, just don't lose the track position.

GIO is the star of today's qualifying.

Well said, stay out of trouble but hold track position from the start if possible, no heroic lunges, and that even applies to GIO! I'm sure Pierre will be up for a fight so stay calm, Charles, mates though you are!:pray

[gmpe23]

Watch Max and Lewis knock each other out of the race in the opening lap. :-D

:-D

[jgonzalesm6]

Perez gets his 4th NEW PU and since he's starting at the back of the grid the penalties won't affect him.


also

Verstappen 13,1 kph slower on the finish line without DRS on his pole lap. Also problems with double shifting and energy deployment.

https://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-273056-formel-1-heute-zandvoort-qualifying-startaufstellung-max-verstappen-im-glueck-ohne-drs-und-mit-fehler-auf-pole/