Abu Dhabi 2021 Race Thread

[Rob]

Lets hope our boys can come home and finish with solid points and have a clean race.

Come on, eeeerrrrr

Max

[Redfive]

Forza Ferrari! Go Carlos and Charles!

Max deserves a little good luck please please.

[Greig]

Title Lewis then....

[ferrari1.8t]

Stewards already handing Hamilton help. Just stop the race and give him the trophy already. What a joke.

[stefa]

This is insult for the common sense!!!!!

[Noquarter]

Stupid **** Warwick wants Championship for Luise

[330 p4]

Absolute disgrace from stewards up front. Couldn't make it up.

[Tifoso Svedese]

maFIA scumbags at it again.

At least Norris fluffed it so we have a good chance at sealing P5/P6 in the standings now.

[Rob]

Max went for gap, that was there. Lewis gained alot but going off like that.

[Rob]

Didnt Max get penalty for cutting corner last weekend?

[DIEK]

Fia favoring Hamilton...nothing new since 2007.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max went for gap, that was there. Lewis gained alot bu going off like that.

agreed.

[stefa]

What a borring track!!!!

[330 p4]

Never know but if the front 3 can all have a nice crash at some point Ferrari could be in for a win. Hell of a long shot but fingers crossed.

[DIEK]

What a borring track!!!!

Boring and brings back sad memories.

[Ferrari312T4]

The FIA is so much into the pocket of Mercedes and Lewis it's really hard to stomach. No consistency. But very soft when it is concerning Lewis. It's a farce

[Tifoso Svedese]

Please Checo just ram him.

[DJTaurus]

As we said yesterday no car has hams race pace. Max can’t even pass sainz.

[KimiBot]

Carlos takes last podium place? Perez holding Hamilton, losing time there.

[Rob]

Well done Checo

[jgonzalesm6]

Perez doing a good job holding up Lewis.

[DJTaurus]

Wow. I am so impressed by Perez. Hats off. With literally no tyres.

[Riccardog]

lh ...that was dangerous driving... what the **** is he smoking ?

[gump1480]

How did we lose position to Alo and Gas

[Rob]

Nooo kimi

[killer]

Respect to Checo for being such a team player.

Christ almighty, Toto crying about “dangerous driving” to Masi. :roll

[KimiBot]

How did we lose position to Alo and Gas

also Bot, they have not pitted yet

[tifosi1993]

Carlos is struggling a bit on the hards. Norris looks quicker than him.

[Lesky]

F1 is not a sport anymore - Fernando Alonso

Right, its Mercedes running the show and the stewards following suit!

[gump1480]

also Bot, they have not pitted yet

Oh gosh....this live timing app is pathetic. Showed that they pitted once !! Thanks for the info.

[killer]

Merc bluffing on Hamilton’s tyres I think.

[PURE PASSION]

Unfortunately Ham is too fast !!!! Hid going for his 8th !!!!
And we are slower then Norris on Hards !!!

[killer]

Worth considering Carlos is managing the rubber. Charles uncharacteristically a bit lacking pace.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Nah I'm out.

************************************************** ************************************************** *************** Hammy and Toto them sons of ******.

[ferrari1.8t]

Everybody join in a joint prayer that Hamilton’s engine blows and he gets what he deserves once and for all.

[killer]

Au revoir, Formula Mercedes. That was a tad too blatant for my taste.

Let’s lock up 3rd in the Constructor’s and get Charles ahead of Lando.

[jgonzalesm6]

Unfortunately Ham is too fast !!!! !!!

That race pace of that spicy engine (BrazilGP) is just too much.

[KimiBot]

Max needs SC, or Ham PU BOOM other than that, WDC is gone

[ferrari1.8t]

Au revoir, Formula Mercedes. That was a tad too blatant for my taste.

Let’s lock up 3rd in the Constructor’s and get Charles ahead of Lando.

What’s to stay formula Mercedes will end this year? The engines are basically staying the same next year, and the FIA is on Mercs payroll. The regs are locked in yet again….So I don’t see an end to this anytime soon.

Let’s hope Binotto is making a monster and we show up and smash the competition next year.

[Tifoso Svedese]

He gained 1 second by going off to put him out of range in the next corner so that's a slam dunk penalty.

[Lesky]

Not much to say, the most undeserving champion in the last 10 years, Silverstone, Hungary, Imola, and handed the title on a silver plate today.

This was the year when Lewis Hamilton was exposed, Max outperformed him in every single way in less machinery.

The Mercedes rocket engine that sidestepped regulations might have won him another title, but its clear to everyone but Mercedes and Lews fans that Max is the better driver.

[Rob]

Well, i thougt sit down watch final race. See stewards got no balls, and no consistency Handed title. To merc and lewis again. Just hope the new rules set next year will shake it all up. As it did for 2005, as everyone wasmoaning that ferrari were winning.

[Rob]

Toton begging massi for no sc what the hell.

[jgonzalesm6]

He gained 1 second by going off to put him out of range in the next corner so that's a slam dunk penalty.

A race ago, Lewis did the same thing to Max and Max had to give the place back to Lewis.

Stupid inconsistency by the stewards. (Connelly???)

[ferrari1.8t]

Toton begging massi for no sc what the hell.

Joke sport.

[PURE PASSION]

Lec might lose 5th place!!!!

[killer]

Wow. Toto just told the FIA not to let a safety car interfere.

[ferrari1.8t]

Hamilton crying again, this time Verstappen’s pit.

[ferrari1.8t]

Wow. Toto just told the FIA not to let a safety car interfere.

And I’m a conspiracy theorist for believing Merc and Toto run this sport.

[killer]

Well, i thougt sit down watch final race. See stewards got no balls, and no consistency Handed title. To merc and lewis again. Just hope the new rules set next year will shake it all up. As it did for 2005, as everyone wasmoaning that ferrari were winning.

They may not have balls but they certainly have it hard for a certain driver and team.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max has to push HARD on the new hard tires after the VSC.

[gump1480]

Doesn't look good for Lec.

[killer]

Mr. David Croft doing his darndest best to coat this farce with a thick layer of sugar.

[DJTaurus]

Red bull should DNF Perez on a place that safety car is needed.

[killer]

Doesn't look good for Lec.

10th might be a chore now but hopefully Charles can do even better.

[killer]

Red bull should DNF Perez on a place that safety car is needed.

Might as well complete this soap opera.

[DJTaurus]

How many laps can those hard tyres do ?

[stefa]

What a joke of once great sport this is now....

[killer]

How many laps can those hard tyres do ?

Pirelli say 50.

[JChan]

13.6 sec behind for 11 laps is it achievable?

[Greig]

13.6 sec behind for 11 laps is it achievable?

Not unless they tyres go off badly for Lewis.

[Lesky]

The pace difference between Mercedes and Red Bull, Hamilton is quicker on 30 laps old hards than Max 5 laps old tires :lol

[jgonzalesm6]

The pace difference between Mercedes and Red Bull, Hamilton is quicker on 30 laps old hards than Max 5 laps old tires :lol

Not really....it was 23 seconds...then 17seconds....and now on lap 50 it's 11 seconds.

[ferrari1.8t]

Poor fans, we are never going to hear the end of this from the British media. 8 time handed world champion. Sickening to watch this farce over the turbo era. 2022 can’t come fast enough. Scripted British greatest f1 champion….:furious

[JChan]

Give the TROPHY to LH! 6 laps remaining at 11 sec! Old tires vs new new tires is no match!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Austrian führer t-t Toto handing out instructions to race direction on the radio, cutting corners while gaining an advantage and complaining about an inferior car when matching lap times of a 23 lap fresher tyres one.

What a bunch of sorry clowns. Hope his engine blows or tyre delaminates at the end, faint one I know.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Not sure why they pitted Leclerc really when they knew he'd be stuck behind the orange rocket. 2010 vibes all over again.

Sainz has done well today but it really is the team's fault that Leclerc won't get P5 overall man.

[ferrari1.8t]

There’s still a chance…Saftey car

[Greig]

SC

[JChan]

what a 5 laps can do for a safety car it has been earlier

[Greig]

red flag please

[Greig]

race will finish behind SC now....poor end.

[ferrari1.8t]

race will finish behind SC now....poor end.

I’m sure Toto is already wiring the money to Masi now.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max pits.....fresh soft tires.

[PURE PASSION]

It will end like this

[TonyRizza]

0 racing laps, gotta give Hamilton the title

[JChan]

if its Red flag LH can change tire too.

[JChan]

WIRE THE MONEY NOW TO FIA and also GIVE THAT TROPHY to MERC!

[DJTaurus]

Get the car out

[ferrari1.8t]

Let’s hope they give the fans a few laps of racing.

[TonyRizza]

FIA to the rescue again

[Greig]

LOL not letting the lapped cars get out the way...

[drax]

Oh god, they are making the rules as they go

[ferrari1.8t]

Lol lapped cars not moving out of the way. More help for the fake champion. Let’s hope the back markers move out of the way

[Tifoso Svedese]

What a scandal.

Man that is rigged.

[stefa]

WHAT A JOKE?!?!?!? This is unbelievable!!!! They are doing EVRYTRHING to ensure LH get his WDC. Discusting!!!!!

[Greig]

Massi needs sacked

[JChan]

NO MORE 2 LAPS REAMINING GIVE TO LH!

[Rob]

Why dont they just let max over take them in the que

[Greig]

wow now we have a race 1 lap come on Max

[ferrari1.8t]

What a scandal.

Man that is rigged.

Maybe the f1 world will finally wake up to joke of a sport that has been rigged to give Hamilton the championship

[JChan]

RB has more money than MB offering!

[Greig]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss

[Greig]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax

[JChan]

BYE BYE LH!

[SilverSpeed]

1 LAP race

[Greig]

woooooow what a end

[DIEK]

Yesss!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Wow…what a finish

[SilverSpeed]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LH CRYBABY

[Tifoso Svedese]

They let them by? OMG???

I can't believe it.

Eight years of maFIA turned on its head like this.

[jgonzalesm6]

YEEEEEEESSS!!!!!! MAX

[Tifoso Svedese]

Mercedes only have themselves to blame for not stopping on either situation.

[drax]

Yes !

[stefa]

KARMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ferrari312T4]

Yes!!!! The rightful champion!!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Let’s see what Toto protests and how much money he sends to masi

[elnano14]

Sainz podium

[Ferrari312T4]

Awesome!!! There's a party in the Netherlands!!I can fireworks outside going off!!!!

[Hornet]

What a fitting end to such a crazy season
Congrats Max

So glad Lewis couldn't best Schumi record yet :-D

[TonyRizza]

KARMA FINALLY

[KimiBot]

KARMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH, and Carlos P3, great

[tifosi1993]

MaFIA at work.:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[drax]

Sainz p3

[ferrari1.8t]

Sainz podium

Yessss!

[Aziz]

Let’s see what Toto protests and how much money he sends to masi

I don't like RB but I'm happy not to see Toto and Lousie win again. Schu record stands. I hope next year is ours

[JChan]

this is you're last MV, next year it's Ferrari's year!

[Tifoso Svedese]

I can't believe they actually let them by, I thought it was over!

[ferrari1.8t]

Karma is a ***** lulu. Finally some luck for someone else! Finally a non-Mercedes’ winner!!

[tifosi1993]

Well done Carlos. A deserved podium. :clap

[Greig]

Karma for 2008.

[stefa]

Sainz podium
:ferrarifl

[jgonzalesm6]

Way to go Sainz. P3 podium finish.

[stefa]

Karma for 2008.

:thumb

[Greig]

Mercedes will be protesting it I bet.

[ferrari1.8t]

Kraptiz doing the work crying for Mercedes…

[Hornet]

Merc lost this race by playing it too safe refusing to pit Lewis twice
IMO this is how RB won the title today

[KimiBot]

Merc lost this race by playing it too safe refusing to pit Lewis twice
IMO this is how RB won the title today

:thumb

[tifosi1993]

Mercedes will be protesting it I bet.

And it will be popcorn worthy. :lol

[killer]

LOL

[ferrari1.8t]

Crofty is so sour…so is krapitz. Brundle is actually being unbiased.

[DIEK]

Well done Carlos. A deserved podium. :clap

And 5º in drivers championship? :Hmm

[jgonzalesm6]

Merc lost this race by playing it too safe refusing to pit Lewis twice
IMO this is how RB won the title today

This race went against RedBull.....untiil the last lap.

[Aziz]

I hope this is Merc end and not the start of RB dominance

[PURE PASSION]

I think Sainz takes 5th place!!!

[killer]

Karma for 2008.

Indeed.

[tifosi1993]

And 5º in drivers championship? :Hmm

Yup. Total of 4 podiums this year. He's really the "smooth operator".

[KimiBot]

And 5º in drivers championship? :Hmm

1 Max Verstappen NED RED BULL RACING HONDA 395.5
2 Lewis Hamilton GBR MERCEDES 387.5
3 Valtteri Bottas FIN MERCEDES 226
4 Sergio Perez MEX RED BULL RACING HONDA 190
5 Carlos Sainz ESP FERRARI 164.5
6 Lando Norris GBR MCLAREN MERCEDES 160
7 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 159

[Hornet]

Crofty is so sour…so is krapitz. Brundle is actually being unbiased.

Brundle is the only sane person there it seems

[Tifoso Svedese]

Also what a drive by Carlos! Had they crashed he'd won the race :-D

[SilverSpeed]

Well done Max, most race wins this year, you didn't make it a boring year.

Well deserved WC!

[killer]

Mercedes will be protesting it I bet.

That I have to see.

Would have been awful to be Toto’s table.

[330 p4]

Yes yes yes yes. So happy, Sainz on podium and he finishes 5th in drivers? Absolutely wonderful. Still a huge whiff of WWE fakeness about the season but cannot deny the incredible drama. Like Wrestlemania.

[tifosi1993]

But I do feel for Charles, so many bad lucks this year. SF or VSC, nothing has gone his way this year.

But what goes around comes around. Hopefully his luck will shine next year.

[DIEK]

Kimi driver of the Day...

[Hornet]

Congrats to Sainz too.
He's been very consistent lately, and today it paid off.

Overall a great ending to a great season.

Hopefully next year we will back in the run for the title

[killer]

1 Max Verstappen NED RED BULL RACING HONDA 395.5
2 Lewis Hamilton GBR MERCEDES 387.5
3 Valtteri Bottas FIN MERCEDES 226
4 Sergio Perez MEX RED BULL RACING HONDA 190
5 Carlos Sainz ESP FERRARI 164.5
6 Lando Norris GBR MCLAREN MERCEDES 160
7 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 159

I am ticked off that we lost 6th by 1 point.

[tifosi1993]

Kimi driver of the Day...

Latifi should be the DOTD :rotfl

[killer]

Congrats to Sainz too.
He's been very consistent lately, and today it paid off.

Overall a great ending to a great season.

Hopefully next year we will back in the run for the title

We have a very strong driver pairing and the team looks to be headed in the right direction. That’s my biggest takeaway from this season. Merc and RB can kiss my behind; here’s to a strong 2022 for Ferarri.

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis's dad congratulating Max and Jos......very respectful and nice to see.

[stefa]

Lewis's dad congratulating Max and Jos......very respectful and nice to see.
:thumb

[tifosi1993]

Lewis's dad congratulating Max and Jos......very respectful and nice to see.

Hamilton's family is a class above of Jos "the wife beater" Verstappen.

[nani_s23]

Hamilton's family is a class above of Jos "the wife beater" Verstappen.

Totally agree..!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Wow, Masi standing up to Toto saying we go to race!

[jgonzalesm6]

Hamilton's family is a class above of Jos "the wife beater" Verstappen.

I'll agree with that. Jos is no saint off the track.

[nani_s23]

F1 has become a joke with such rules tweaks race by race :rotfl

[Red is Best]

Let me start by saying that I equally despise both Hamilton and Verstappen, but what the hell was that? Only letting the lapped cars positioned between Verstappen and Hamilton unlap themselves? Not waiting for them to rejoin the pack? What is this? WWE? This was ridiculous. And again, I'm by no means a Hamilton fan, quite the contrary, but this is some next level BS.

[jgonzalesm6]

Maxi laying down the "law" to Toto.

[nani_s23]

Wow, Masi standing up to Toto saying we go to race!

It’s controversial decision not just allowing to race but only 3 cars were allowed to lap :rotfl. Where there are other cars left to be allowed.
Surprisingly just after they passed safety car, they thrower safety car ending. Shows F1 :rotfl

[TonyRizza]

Let me start by saying that I equally despise both Hamilton and Verstappen, but what the hell was that? Only letting the lapped cars positioned between Verstappen and Hamilton unlap themselves? Not waiting for them to rejoin the pack? What is this? WWE? This was ridiculous. And again, I'm by no means a Hamilton fan, quite the contrary, but this is some next level .

Same as Hamilton getting a 10s penalty in Silverstone.
Karma finally paying its dues

[nani_s23]

Merc lost this race by playing it too safe refusing to pit Lewis twice
IMO this is how RB won the title today

Both ocassions they would have lost track position to Max.

But they should have gone. RB done opposite to Mercs. If Mercs would have pitted, then RB - Max wouldn’t have trigger that pit stop.

[tifosi1993]

Let me start by saying that I equally despise both Hamilton and Verstappen, but what the hell was that? Only letting the lapped cars positioned between Verstappen and Hamilton unlap themselves? Not waiting for them to rejoin the pack? What is this? WWE? This was ridiculous. And again, I'm by no means a Hamilton fan, quite the contrary, but this is some next level BS.

F1 has always been like the WWE. Rules are pretty clear but the stewards and the FIA hardly follow it. Forcing someone off the track doesn't earn you a penalty, Brake testing means only 10-seconds penalty and not letting the unlapped cars to joint the queue etc etc...

But this year's championship fight takes the cake.

[ferrari1.8t]

It’s controversial decision not just allowing to race but only 3 cars were allowed to lap :rotfl. Where there are other cars left to be allowed.
Surprisingly just after they passed safety car, they thrower safety car ending. Shows F1 :rotfl

Yup, as silly as it gets. But that’s been F1 for the last 8 years. Rules change by the minute to the benefit of Mercedes and Hamilton. So what goes around comes around I guess. Bespoke regulations, rules, tires, tracks, penalties all for the favour of Merc. Eventually it has to go another way right?

Let’s hope this ends Merc-Ham dominance and Ferrari destroys the competition next year and onward!!

[nani_s23]

But I do feel for Charles, so many bad lucks this year. SF or VSC, nothing has gone his way this year.

But what goes around comes around. Hopefully his luck will shine next year.

He’s lacking race pace, he should work out next year on that. Where as Sainz always manages his tyres in race. That’s why he’s close to leclerc. Anyways it’s good to see both driving those wheels of the car.

Waiting for next year, should give max/ham run for their money.

[PURE PASSION]

Leclerc: "not my best race. Thank you anyway."
Binotto: "we're going to have fun next year - you too, you'll see. You were very unlucky this season."


Aye Mattia, aye... #AbuDhabiGP
???

[stefa]

As Greig said this is one way overdue KARMA for 2008! It could not come at better time :-D

[DIEK]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OldfashionedBoilingAmericanpainthorse-size_restricted.gif

[JChan]

Today is a day, in UFC the underdog wins, in F1 the RB is not the underdog but it's suits my day no more LH and TOTO MERCFIA! thanks williams.

[stefa]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OldfashionedBoilingAmericanpainthorse-size_restricted.gif

PRICELESS!!!! :rotfl

[nani_s23]

Yup, as silly as it gets. But that’s been F1 for the last 8 years. Rules change by the minute to the benefit of Mercedes and Hamilton. So what goes around comes around I guess. Bespoke regulations, rules, tires, tracks, penalties all for the favour of Merc. Eventually it has to go another way right?

Let’s hope this ends Merc-Ham dominance and Ferrari destroys the competition next year and onward!!

Yup, everyone in paddock considering Ferrari should have advantage next year by giving away 2 years for next year car.

Let’s see…. I hope Charles leclerc or Sainz is the name I want to hear as “2022 WDC” & get that constructors as we have two strong drivers.

[stefa]

Yup, everyone in paddock considering Ferrari should have advantage next year by giving away 2 years for next year car.

Let’s see…. I hope Charles leclerc or Sainz is the name I want to hear as “2022 WDC” & get that constructors as we have two strong drivers.
:pray

[tifosi1993]

He’s lacking race pace, he should work out next year on that. Where as Sainz always manages his tyres in race. That’s why he’s close to leclerc. Anyways it’s good to see both driving those wheels of the car.

Waiting for next year, should give max/ham run for their money.

I don't think Charles is lacking race pace. Charles is way ahead of Sainz in head-head when both finished the race.

But Sainz bagged up 4 podiums when Charles only scored one point. One was a DNS, two of them were DNFs and today was a bad strategy call from Ferrari by pitting under the VSC.

Only his luck needs to change. And Ferrari needs to give him a car like the Red Bull or the Mercedes.

[nani_s23]

???

Mattia giving high hopes next season :-E

[nani_s23]

I don't think Charles is lacking race pace. Charles is way ahead of Sainz in head-head when both finished the race.

But Sainz bagged up 4 podiums when Charles only scored one point. One them is a DNS, two of them are DNF and today was a bad strategy call from Ferrari by pitting under the VSC.

Both drivers were unlucky… Sainz too had very very slow pit stops considering his finishes few times.
But anyways both are solid drivers & consistent for our team. That’s what we need.

Now it’s up to Mattia & team to give Charles & Sainz a good strong car.
I need Max vs Leclerc very badly. There is some unfinished business for Leclerc to give it back to Max.

Only his luck needs to change. And Ferrari needs to give a car like the Red Bull or the Mercedes.

[JChan]

LH: THIS IS UNBELIVABLE MAN for the Williams crash and the SC!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Michael's record of five consecutive titles (and with one team) is safe for now as well :ferrarifl

[Hornet]

It’s controversial decision not just allowing to race but only 3 cars were allowed to lap :rotfl. Where there are other cars left to be allowed.
Surprisingly just after they passed safety car, they thrower safety car ending. Shows F1 :rotfl

The objective of letting lapped cars past is to allow the leaders to race.
If it was safe to let them race for 1 lap, then it was the right thing to do. Rather than unnecessarily waiting for lapped cars to catch up which they won't anyway due to the number of laps left, and end the race in SC.

[DIEK]

PRICELESS!!!! :rotfl

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CgsxyGqhrPk/maxresdefault.jpg

:lol

[tifosi1993]

???

But Binotto is completely correct with is assessment. Let's see:

Lost an easy podium in Imola because of the red flag
DNS in Monaco
Lost a win Silverstone, again because of the red flag which allowed Ham to fix up his car
Gets taken out by Stroll in Hungary, otherwise would've been P2 at the end of the 1st lap
Started from the back in Russia and was running P4 before the rain hit, gambled like Norris and lost an easy top 4 finish
Again lost an easy podium in Turkey, because both him and Ferrari gambled for the win rather than securing an easy podium finish
Would've finished P3 in Saudi, but again the red flag screwed him over
Pitted under the VSC today but again his gamble backfired, unlike other instances when drivers pitted under the VSC pretty much always benefited

And if you say that DNS in Monaco was his fault then you should also consider that, Sainz crashed in Hungary qualifying as well and started from P15. But he finished P3 in that race while Charles got take out at the first corner.

So yeah...Charles had absolute rotten luck this year. His P7 standing doesn't reflect his performance.

[nani_s23]

The objective of letting lapped cars past is to allow the leaders to race.
If it was safe to let them race for 1 lap, then it was the right thing to do. Rather than unnecessarily waiting for lapped cars to catch up which they won't anyway due to the number of laps left, and end the race in SC.

According to sporting Reg it’s not. Race directors should also follow Reg’s right?

Next point is … first they said “lapped cars shouldn’t be allowed” which is wrong… then they reversed their decision to “only 3 cars to be allowed” which is also wrong. If second one is right, then 1st one should also be right. ??

[patrese86]

That was a crazy end to a crazy season.

Personally I don't want to see a season which has come down to the last race finished behind a safety car, equally I don't think you should of done what masi did and restarted with one lap left.

In the interest of fairness I'd of red flagged it straight away and had a few laps racing at the end.

Of course Max and Red Bull are going to come in for all sorts of rubbish but they did nothing wrong, they gambled and through some odd decision making outside of their control managed to pull it off.

Happy for Max to break these successions of WDC that mercedes have had with Hamilton. Max will be a force to be reckoned with for many years and I hope as a Ferrari fan we have produced a car to compete with them and Mercedes next season.

I was happy with our performance in a straight line today and a nice way for Carlos to end his debut season for us.

[330 p4]

Let me start by saying that I equally despise both Hamilton and Verstappen, but what the hell was that? Only letting the lapped cars positioned between Verstappen and Hamilton unlap themselves? Not waiting for them to rejoin the pack? What is this? WWE? This was ridiculous. And again, I'm by no means a Hamilton fan, quite the contrary, but this is some next level BS.

Who cares, anyone but Hamilton. The whole world should be happy.

[Warp]

They should have red flagged. Let the race for the last 5 laps.

[PURE PASSION]

But Binotto is completely correct with is assessment. Let's see:

Lost an easy podium in Imola because of the red flag
DNS in Monaco
Lost a win Silverstone, again because of the red flag which allowed Ham to fix up his car
Gets taken out by Stroll in Hungary, otherwise would've been P2 at the end of the 1st lap
Started from the back in Russia and was running P4 before the rain hit, gambled like Norris and lost an easy top 4 finish
Again lost an easy podium in Turkey, because both him and Ferrari gambled for the win rather than securing an easy podium finish
Would've finished P3 in Saudi, but again the red flag screwed him over
Pitted under the VSC today but again his gamble backfired, unlike other instances when drivers pitted under the VSC pretty much always benefited

And if you say that DNS in Monaco was his fault then you should also consider that, Sainz crashed in Hungary qualifying as well and started from P15. But he finished P3 in that race while Charles got take out at the first corner.

So yeah...Charles had absolute rotten luck this year. His P7 standing doesn't reflect his performance.

I wasn't talking about Lecs bad luck ,but that Binotto is almost certain about next year!!!!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Also kitos/tack/thank you/grazie Kimi :ferrarifl

[Riccardog]

Wow! I am happy that lh did not win, finally on lap 56 of the 22nd race of the 2021 season, masi grew a backbone and said no to toto and merc control. Good for you.

But, I do hope .next year there will be a more impartial and even-handed way of incident resolution.
masi is way too pathetic to keep this positio....I hope.

Ferrari 3d clinched, ... glad and sad.

[Greig]

Merc are protesting it by the sounds of it.

[Greig]

Either way I think Massi needs replaced.

[tifosi1993]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGanWO4XsAofKmc?format=png&name=small

All the lapped cars should be allowed to unlap themselves, not just 3 cars. And the race should resume on the following lap, not the same lap.

Masi and the FIA have broken their own rules.

[nani_s23]

Either way I think Massi needs replaced.

Absolutely… his decisions are not spot on. All are controversial & triggered lot of talk.

[tifosi1993]

Merc are protesting it by the sounds of it.

They have. It was inevitable.

[nani_s23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGanWO4XsAofKmc?format=png&name=small

All the lapped cars should be allowed to unlap themselves, not just 3 cars. And the race should resume on the following lap, not the same lap.

Masi and the FIA have broken their own rules.

This is according to sport Reg 48. This is what I’m saying from the start.

[Lesky]

Then Red Bull should appeal the first lap incident, and wipe out to whole race result.

[WS6TransAm01]

I don’t care who won, I just love the the virtue signaling affirmative action champion who has been handed every one of his championships lost.

That’s what matters to me.

I don’t care if the FIA screwed up, their previous screwups have handed him plenty.

Karma!

Seeing Carlos on the podium is a bonus. I was worried about the choice to bring him in but seems like Ferrari have finally gotten one thing right.

[Tifoso Svedese]

If the race was ran incorrectly then the race is null and void and then Max wins on countback :lol

[Lesky]

Merc seems to think Max actually overtook Lewis in S3 prior to the restart...thats why their is 2 protests. Toto doing his usual business!

[patrese86]

They say they aren't following the regs but they haven't all season! What about when Bottas slowed down intentionally in Jeddah with the VSC in order to extend Lewis' lead and double stack. That's not allowed l, neither is staying 10 car lengths behind the driver Infront on a formation lap. This has happened all season.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Merc seems to think Max actually overtook Lewis in S3 prior to the restart...thats why their is 2 protests. Toto doing his usual business!

Lol he didn't and even if he did Hamilton drove about 5 mph.

Toto needs to seek help.

He has won 7 WDC and 8 WCC but is still cheating and lying even after that.

[nani_s23]

Mercs logged a protest against Car no.33

[nani_s23]

They should have red flagged. Let the race for the last 5 laps.

This would have been the best option for race steward. It equalises, because all the cars can change their tyres under Red flag & allow them race for last 5 laps on track.

[tifosi1993]

This is according to sport Reg 48. This is what I’m saying from the start.

And what is wrong is a wrong. Just because some people here want to see Schu's records being intact, it doesn't justify what has happened today.

The same that has happened today could easily happen to either Charles or Carlos.

[Greig]

5 second penalty for Max incoming for overtaking under the SC then.....wait for it :-D

[Tifoso Svedese]

5 second penalty for Max incoming for overtaking under the SC then.....wait for it :-D

All we then need is 5 seconds for Hammy for corner cutting and then Vamos Carlos :-D

[Greig]

All we then need is 5 seconds for Hammy for corner cutting and then Vamos Carlos :-D

:rotfl:clap

[nani_s23]

And what is wrong is a wrong. Just because some people here want to see Schu's records being intact, it doesn't justify what has happened today.

The same that has happened today could easily happen to either Charles or Carlos.

Yes completely welcome your statement. MS records should be intact agree, but not this way right?
MS fought on track for each of his title not rules being broken.

[Tony]

I was hoping MV would win because of the monotony of another LH championship, but this race was a farce... this kind of stuff should not be happening in a professional sporting association...

[ferrari1.8t]

Mercs logged a protest against Car no.33

You’ve won 8 straight constructors and 7 drivers titles, every thing handed to you on the way and you still want to go out like sore loosers? The changing of the guard had to come eventually, as it did with Schumacher and Vettel in the past. Let’s hope this finally ends Merc’s stranglehold on the sport

[WS6TransAm01]

Kimi is Drive of the Day as well.

I will miss him most.

[tifosi1993]

You’ve won 8 straight constructors and 7 drivers titles, every thing handed to you on the way and you still want to go out like sore loosers? The changing of the guard had to come eventually, as it did with Schumacher and Vettel in the past. Let’s hope this finally ends Merc’s stranglehold on the sport

Everyone would've done the same thing. If it was Charles, Ferrari would've done the same thing. If it was Max, Red Bull would've done the same thing.

FIA have broken their own rules. You simply can't expect any F1 team to turn a blind eye and ignore a clear cut breach of the safety car rule.

[Lesky]

A problem with the scenario of that Merc would have the chance to put Lewis on softs if they had known cars would be allowed to overtake the safety car, Lewis would then be 2nd and there would be a last lap scramble Vs Max and who knows how that would have ended, so which scenario should we guessing for to dictate a an outcome of the race results.

Masi probably blacked out and pushed the wrong button, or panicked about the first lap incident and wanted to give one back....

Shambolic on all levels today!

[nani_s23]

Everyone would've done the same thing. If it was Charles, Ferrari would've done the same thing. If it was Max, Red Bull would've done the same thing.

FIA have broken their own rules. You simply can't expect any F1 team to turn a blind eye and ignore a clear cut breach of the safety car rule.

:clap

[nani_s23]

Kimi … last Ferrari WDC. :clap

[stefa]

Yes completely welcome your statement. MS records should be intact agree, but not this way right?
MS fought on track for each of his title not rules being broken.

:thumb

[ferrari1.8t]

Everyone would've done the same thing. If it was Charles, Ferrari would've done the same thing. If it was Max, Red Bull would've done the same thing.

FIA have broken their own rules. You simply can't expect any F1 team to turn a blind eye and ignore a clear cut breach of the safety car rule.

Like i said in an earlier message; the last 8 years have been nothing but silly. Rules are made and changed by the minute; most of the time to favour Merc/Hamilton. What goes around eventually comes around . What about the lap 1 incident? The stewards didn’t even look at it because it favoured golden boy. Not saying it makes sense, or that it’s right. But if Toto always wants things bent in his favour, sometimes it goes other way. He was the one who said he wanted it decided on track, and yet here he is begging Masi to reinstate Hamilton as the winner. What an absolute looser. The sport will be a sunnier place when Hamilton, Toto and Merc aren’t around.

[stefa]

2008 baby, 2008.... KARMA!!!!!

[20000rpm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSOYIo996CA

This is more entertaining that the result!!!

[SilverSpeed]

Summons - Mercedes Protest (Art. 48.12)
Published on 12.12.21 16:37 CET
Summons - Red Bull - Mercedes Protest (Art 48.12)
Published on 12.12.21 16:36 CET
Summons - Car 44 - Mercedes Protest of Car 33 (Art. 48.8)
Published on 12.12.21 16:36 CET
Summons - Car 33 - Protest by Mercedes

2 Protests launched by crybaby's haha.

[20000rpm]

So the losers still want to fight off the track.... Great!!

[TonyRizza]

i can see max getting a penalty to gift hamilton another championship.... sums up the FIA

[paolo lalli]

Holland will declare war on Totto.

[ferrari1.8t]

i can see max getting a penalty to gift hamilton another championship.... sums up the FIA

If he is given this Championship everyone single fan and team should protest.

[Greig]

Only way to solve it is to sack Massi and declare the race void.

[nani_s23]

Holland will declare war on Totto.

:rotfl

[paolo lalli]

Decided on track by the the track let's go racing Totti and hamilton you morons, they wanted it over like a street procession,you can't win them all.

[Warp]

I find it very reasonable for Mercedes to protest. FIA bended their own rules.

[DJTaurus]

No Michael this is not right :P
https://youtu.be/MTe12fH2xtQ

[Cheeseman]

The FIA won't overturn their own decission. This will end up in court I imagine

[nani_s23]

Hopefully we will have a better car next year, to come back and hopefully fight for the title.":thumb

[Rob]

Should give max a 5 second penalty then give lewis a 5 second penalty for cutting the track and gaining an advantage.

[paneristi]

https://twitter.com/f1/status/1470058598197825542?s=21

[ferrari1.8t]

Only way to solve it is to sack Massi and declare the race void.

Then what? Have another race? Or declare Verstappen champion because he has more wins?

[tifosi1993]

Like i said in an earlier message; the last 8 years have been nothing but silly. Rules are made and changed by the minute; most of the time to favour Merc/Hamilton. What goes around eventually comes around . What about the lap 1 incident? The stewards didn’t even look at it because it favoured golden boy. Not saying it makes sense, or that it’s right. But if Toto always wants things bent in his favour, sometimes it goes other way. He was the one who said he wanted it decided on track, and yet here he is begging Masi to reinstate Hamilton as the winner. What an absolute looser. The sport will be a sunnier place when Hamilton, Toto and Merc aren’t around.

You're comparing apples with oranges. Safety car rule is clear cut. Wheel-Wheel racing and the rules surrounding it can be interpreted differently because of the circumstances. But there is no scope of interpreting the safety car rule. When the lapped cars are being allowed to unlap, then all of them are allowed to unlap themselves, not just 4 cars. And the race must always start from the following lap.

[ferrari1.8t]

https://twitter.com/f1/status/1470058598197825542?s=21

I get the protest for the un-lapped cars. But saying max overtook under the saftey car? The track was green and they were racing??

[Hornet]

Didn't Merc said something funny about wanting to win the WDC on the race track some time ago.

[nani_s23]

Then what? Have another race? Or declare Verstappen champion because he has more wins?

RB called unbelievable decision till lapped cars are not allowed & they were consistently approaching race steward.

Massi’s best decision would have been red flag the session & restart. This would have been equalised.

[tifosi1993]

Holland will declare war on Totto.

Toto is an Austrian aka 99.9% German. I don't think he will be too intimidated by the orange army. :lol

[paneristi]

I get the protest for the un-lapped cars. But saying max overtook under the saftey car? The track was green and they were racing?? right. And I’m tired of seeing that dirty collaboration between merc & fia.

[ferrari1.8t]

You're comparing apples with oranges. Safety car rule is clear cut. Wheel-Wheel racing and the rules surrounding it can be interpreted differently because of the circumstances. But there is no scope of interpreting the safety car rule. When the lapped cars are being allowed to unlap, then all of them are allowed to unlap themselves, not just 4 cars. And the race must always start from the following lap.

Meh, there are no apples or oranges when Merc is around. Mercedes has had the rules interpreted, changed, exaggerated all the time in their favour. What goes around comes around. That’s my opinion.

[20000rpm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpS5GZGNf3M
Wow!!! Carlos is so happy!!!!

[nani_s23]

Meh, there are no apples or oranges when Merc is around. Mercedes has had the rules interpreted, changed, exaggerated all the time in their favour. What goes around comes around. That’s my opinion.

What happened during 2011-2014?? Didn’t RB bend the rules??

[330 p4]

Toto is an Austrian aka 99.9% German. I don't think he will be too intimidated by the orange army. :lol

Yeah true Nazi scum. May God strike him down.

[330 p4]

If Merc lose the protest they should not have the chance at a free shot to protest. If they lose protest they should lose 200 constructors points. Filthy Krauts.

[tifosi1993]

Yeah true Nazi scum. May God strike him down.

WTH!?

You're crazy.

[Cheeseman]

Yeah true Nazi scum. May God strike him down.

:lol:lol don't hold back mate. Say how you really feel :lol

[paneristi]

:lol :lol

[Lesky]

Merc ruining Bulls celebration regardless!

[ferrari1.8t]

Merc ruining Bulls celebration regardless!

They don’t know what it feels like to loose or how to do it gracefully. They’ve been dominating for 8 years without any competition and now are having a hard time with it. They have become complacent and just assume they should always win.

[Ferrarichamp]

WTH!?

You're crazy.

he sounds like a Mercedes fan trying to make this forum look bad.

[paneristi]

They don’t know what it feels like to loose or how to do it gracefully. They’ve been dominating for 8 years without any competition and now are having a hard time with it. They have become complacent and just assume they should always win. they are not Scuderia Ferrari. They dominated through lobbying. Racing is NOT in their blood

[WS6TransAm01]

I’m waiting for BLM to riot on behalf of Lewis. They seem to like to burn and loot stuff when they don’t get their way. Can’t wait for the posts and articles from the British media about how this is just more examples of “white supremacy” and “institutional racism”

LOL