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Tifoso
28th March 2022, 02:05
I mean something like

XYZ GP: Ferrari

ABC GP: Red Bull

etc

Go!

ferrari4life
28th March 2022, 02:22
For each GP in remaining GP
* GP = Ferrari!!!
echo "LET's GO"
end loop

Tifoso
28th March 2022, 02:53
For each GP in remaining GP
* GP = Ferrari!!!
echo "LET's GO"
end loop
Woooooohaaaaaaahaaaa! :clap

PURE PASSION
28th March 2022, 07:09
Well we have the potential to win them all,but we are too close with RedBull so everything is in the details !!!
And then it's the upgrades and how will we manage to evolve the car!!!

Ferrarichamp
28th March 2022, 08:25
I will start with Monaco. After last's year's disappointment, Charles will be keen to win his home race, and I'm sure he'll have the car to do it.

Brembo
28th March 2022, 09:17
Ferrari looks stronger than ever for the rest of the season 2022. After 2 races Russell is 6 points ahead of his team mate! What a great start of the F-1 season. Nothings for sure!

Hornet
28th March 2022, 15:39
Melbourne - Ferrari
Imola - Ferrari

I think Ferrari will be strong at these circuit where straightline speed is not that important.
But beyond that, really depends on who brings the better upgrade

There's nothing to choose between Charles and Max, and both cars at the moment. So it will be a development race

Ferrarichamp
28th March 2022, 15:51
so RB should be favorites in Baku due to the long straight?

jgonzalesm6
28th March 2022, 15:56
so RB should be favorites in Baku due to the long straight?

Not really with regards to Ferrari vs RedBull. So far what we have seen between Leclerc and Max is whose going to be first out of T16 at Baku...because from there its all about straight line speed on a DRS zone to T20......so my prediction will be Leclerc will let Max go first but then pass Max on the straight.

phsyklone
28th March 2022, 16:32
Its amazing that ferrari is still almost launch spec and making a heavily updated redbull sweat

FerrariF60
28th March 2022, 17:48
Ferrari is still running the engine in somewhat conservative mode until they are happy with the reliability
Once they’ll turn up the wick red bull will have to completely remove their rear wing per say to keep up with Ferrari speed

More speed to come from Ferrari, that I’m sure of

Cavallino
28th March 2022, 18:22
I think we made some small revisions to the wings and the floor, but not much more than duct taping some parts together, and adding that spring connecting the floor to the chassis.

Nothing close to the level of what red bull did.

Red Bull produced those sidepods with little to no actual on track experience.

We'll have a lot more real data going into our first update.

And Red Bull wasted their limited budget on that sub optimal update. One would have to believe.

Nick Singer
29th March 2022, 10:03
My sixpence worth: we absolutely must not fall behind in the 'development race'. It has been a failing sometimes in the past.

RB (and the Mercs!) will be working night and day to find an edge - so must we.

#ForzaFerrari!

Gilles
29th March 2022, 12:23
Ferrari is still running the engine in somewhat conservative mode until they are happy with the reliability
Once they’ll turn up the wick red bull will have to completely remove their rear wing per say to keep up with Ferrari speed

More speed to come from Ferrari, that I’m sure of

I think that each engine manufacturer will increase its power in the year

Redfive
30th March 2022, 13:37
I think we have the car to win the next 8-9 races ..however mid season we usually drop behind in the development race, so that is a concern.

burak karaküdük
30th March 2022, 14:17
our car needs to be updated and then i can say we able to win many races. but i am hopeful for melbourne gp. remember that our rivals are not sleeping. finaly my opinion we can win 9-10 races. i really wonder melbourne

Brembo
30th March 2022, 17:19
Merc I believe wants Russell as their new #1 driver and will do what they have to. Max and Charles and I believe Carlos really know what each other are up to when they are going at each other for the pass. The races are great ! Will Lewis get permission to compete against Russell and the others remains in the hands of Merc big shots and FIA . Masi was not alone .

Gilles
31st March 2022, 20:04
Merc I believe wants Russell as their new #1 driver and will do what they have to. Max and Charles and I believe Carlos really know what each other are up to when they are going at each other for the pass. The races are great ! Will Lewis get permission to compete against Russell and the others remains in the hands of Merc big shots and FIA . Masi was not alone .

Mercedes is already saying they are thinking about next year's car. I know their long history of sanbagging, but as I said in Barcelona testing, ​​their car is bad. They can surely recover a little, more or less, but without an unexpected surprise, it will be difficult for them to fight for the championships. In this situation, I don't expect them to make Russel their first driver. Lewis still be the star of the team, he deserves more respect than that and can take back the lead. Mercedes helped make Lewis "legend", and would lose by humiliating him and have no reason to do so for at best a third place in the championship

Hans Schumi
31st March 2022, 22:45
Australia Red Bull...there is a long straight now there
Imola Ferrari ... of course
Dont write off Mercedes...they will be back soon

Brembo
1st April 2022, 09:16
Mercedes is already saying they are thinking about next year's car. I know their long history of sanbagging, but as I said in Barcelona testing, ​​their car is bad. They can surely recover a little, more or less, but without an unexpected surprise, it will be difficult for them to fight for the championships. In this situation, I don't expect them to make Russel their first driver. Lewis still be the star of the team, he deserves more respect than that and can take back the lead. Mercedes helped make Lewis "legend", and would lose by humiliating him and have no reason to do so for at best a third place in the championship

Great post! I agree with you 100% but... Merc can't compete against the FIA and all the other F-1 big shots as to what they want as far as WDCF; WCC winners. They stole that 8th win from Merc , Lewis without hesitation even knowing how obvious it was.

Hans Schumi
1st April 2022, 13:45
our car needs to be updated and then i can say we able to win many races. but i am hopeful for melbourne gp. remember that our rivals are not sleeping. finaly my opinion we can win 9-10 races. i really wonder melbourne

9-10 races enough for WDC if Charles win these races...but if Carlos made some wins i think it would be difficult as Red Bull will try to win every race with Max and not Sergio.

Silent Bob
2nd April 2022, 15:07
our car needs to be updated and then i can say we able to win many races. but i am hopeful for melbourne gp. remember that our rivals are not sleeping. finaly my opinion we can win 9-10 races. i really wonder melbourne


Australia Red Bull...there is a long straight now there
Imola Ferrari ... of course
Dont write off Mercedes...they will be back soon



So far in the first 2 races, Ferrari have run high downforce so their top speed has been a little hidden. Binotto said they went high downforce in Saudi because of tire degradation but the tires were more durable than expected. Maybe both drivers hitting the wall in FP2 might have impacted their decision due to not having data on long runs. Now if they can evaluate the tires better, maybe they can use less downforce means they might not be as slow on the straights. I'd like to see them try a low DF setup in Aus and see how they stack up to Red bull in speed. If they can match RB's speed on the straights and maintain their edge in the corners, then they really have much more to extract from the car and don't need to go nuts on upgrades yet.

Tifoso
2nd April 2022, 19:14
Australia Red Bull...there is a long straight now there
Imola Ferrari ... of course
Dont write off Mercedes...they will be back soon

This is the kind of response that I was looking for: a race by race prediction. ;-)

Gilles
2nd April 2022, 19:59
This is the kind of response that I was looking for: a race by race prediction. ;-)

Basically, all the way down to Miami is better suited for Ferrari, but let's not forget the updates. I hope it will be even better for Ferrari with the updates, and as the doubts about delivering a good car, those about the ability to be good again after the first race, will disappear those about the ability to upgrade the car

Gilles
2nd April 2022, 20:03
Australia Red Bull...there is a long straight now there
Imola Ferrari ... of course
Dont write off Mercedes...they will be back soon

Mercedes?
We'll see, I'm starting to doubt it (budget cap)

Tifoso Svedese
3rd April 2022, 07:49
It depends on how we upgrade and what Mercedes do.

With the current cars though:

Melbourne 35 %
Imola 40 %
Barcelona 60 %
Miami 50 %
Monaco 70 %
Montréal 60 %
Baku 55 %
Red Bull Ring 60 %
Paul Ricard 40 %
Silverstone 55 %
Hungaroring 65 %
Zandvoort 60 %
Spa 30 %
Monza 25 %
Singapore 70 %

I can't be bothered going on for longer but the bottom line is that better tracks will emerge soon. Bahrain was a 50/50 and Jeddah a 30/70.

Hans Schumi
7th April 2022, 01:08
It depends on how we upgrade and what Mercedes do.

With the current cars though:

Melbourne 35 %
Imola 40 %
Barcelona 60 %
Miami 50 %
Monaco 70 %
Montréal 60 %
Baku 55 %
Red Bull Ring 60 %
Paul Ricard 40 %
Silverstone 55 %
Hungaroring 65 %
Zandvoort 60 %
Spa 30 %
Monza 25 %
Singapore 70 %

I can't be bothered going on for longer but the bottom line is that better tracks will emerge soon. Bahrain was a 50/50 and Jeddah a 30/70.

Ok well then...to you Ferrari will win at least nine more races...okkk...i will be happy with 5-6...

aroutis
12th April 2022, 10:12
Ok well then...to you Ferrari will win at least nine more races...okkk...i will be happy with 5-6...

Seriously?
Just 5-6 out of 23 , a total of 8 ?
With this package?

aroutis
12th April 2022, 10:14
Imola 60 %
Barcelona 70 %
Miami 40 %
Monaco 40 %
Montréal 60 %
Baku 55 %
Red Bull Ring 60 %
Paul Ricard 40 %
Silverstone 65 %
Hungaroring 65 %
Zandvoort 50 %
Spa 50 %
Monza 55 %
Singapore 70 %

Greig
12th April 2022, 10:20
40% at Monaco?

As it stands we are 100% capable of winning every race.

stefa
12th April 2022, 10:29
40% at Monaco?

As it stands we are 100% capable of winning every race.

Exactly!
:thumb

Gilles
12th April 2022, 11:08
If cars are like they are today, then, i would say 95% in Monaco
We have:
Better breaking
Better traction
Better car rotation in corner
Better acceleration
Better driver (for a first home victory after so many unlucky years)

aroutis
12th April 2022, 14:24
40% at Monaco?

As it stands we are 100% capable of winning every race.

The only reason I am pessimist bout Monaco is because I don't want to zinx (sp?) it, because of the history Charles has there.
I want to see us win this there badly.
And yes, I do in fact agree with you but I am trying not push my lack , so, yes, I 've put some low ratings there just for ... "fun". But quite honestly I am quite optimistic, as long as we keep on doing what we're doing , which quite honestly I believe we will.

Tony
12th April 2022, 14:29
Barring a very unlikely resurgence from Mercedes, the track layout at Monaco heavily favors Ferrari. Slow corners requiring high traction. Red Bull will be in a lot of trouble at that track.

Although Monaco can be a crapshoot given the barriers.

jgonzalesm6
12th April 2022, 15:44
Among the obvious setup at Monaco (high downforce) a short wheelbase car is also ideal at this "track."

tifosi1993
12th April 2022, 17:17
Tracks where the F1-75 is incapable of winning don't exist. If not for the VSC in Saudi which allowed Verstappen to close the gap from 1.8 to 0.8 and cool off his tyres, Charles would've won all 3 races.

So that's the only thing that can stop us from winning: bad luck.

wisepie
12th April 2022, 17:46
As of now, there appears to be a chance on any circuit. When the upgrades start appearing, though, you never know whether it may be a backward step or undermines what performance level we currently have. Don't want to sound pessimistic but we all know how quickly things can change and I don't like predictions either, but it's looking positive!

Tifoso Svedese
12th April 2022, 18:08
Considering I put Melbourne on the low end... I don't want to jinx it but I'm looking forward to the next couple months :ferrarifl

I just hope Newey doesn't come out with a spaceship 0.5 s/lap upgrade that would really put the pressure on us to do the same.

Tifoso
13th April 2022, 01:02
40% at Monaco?

As it stands we are 100% capable of winning every race.
I am really starting to think so.
Charles was flying, at a supposed RB track.
I like our chances. :-)

Gilles
13th April 2022, 13:01
I am really starting to think so.
Charles was flying, at a supposed RB track.
I like our chances. :-)

Ok but we should remember RB missed to set their car

Tifoso
14th April 2022, 20:11
RB said that they “expect improvement, but obviously not to Ferrari’s pace”. :dance:wine

Gilles
14th April 2022, 21:23
RB said that they “expect improvement, but obviously not to Ferrari’s pace”. :dance:wine

And Max said they need 45 races to catch up Ferrari
:wine too

PURE PASSION
15th April 2022, 10:13
And Max said they need 45 races to catch up Ferrari
:wine too

45?????!!!!!!!!:-E

Gilles
15th April 2022, 12:40
45?????!!!!!!!!:-E

45, yes

https://www.newsf1.it/f1-verstappen-per-raggiungere-ferrari-ci-servirebbero-45-gare-formula-1/