Sprint Qualifying

[Tifoso]

Thoughts? :-)

[SS454]

of all the things wrong with F1, qualifying wasnt one of them.

[Lapo]

It makes the Friday more fun due to Qualy being on Friday. Not enough to make the change permanently. I prefer the standard format

[Liscia]

Usual format is fine and doesn't need changing. Additional damage and wear and tear on cars would eat into funds already constricted by cost cap.
PLEASE LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE and bring back the grid girls you dummies!

[Riccardog]

waste of RESOURCES... so much for preaching about cost saving.
The sprint races are a joke.

[patrese86]

I voted hate, though I don't hate it but I'm not fond of it.

[jgonzalesm6]

Hate it.

[burak karaküdük]

it should be removed as soon as possible.

[SS454]

For anyone that likes it, can you give the reasons why you like it?

I could write a pretty long list of reasons why I hate it.

[aroutis]

For anyone that likes it, can you give the reasons why you like it?

I could write a pretty long list of reasons why I hate it.

Since I like it, why not?
It adds spice to the sport, it's something out of the ordinary. At least last year there were cases of races that were sort of "pedal to the medal" which I really enjoyed.

So why not?

[SS454]

Since I like it, why not?
It adds spice to the sport, it's something out of the ordinary. At least last year there were cases of races that were sort of "pedal to the medal" which I really enjoyed.

So why not?

I believe qualifying should be about the fastest driver and the fastest car, it determines the right to start as far forward as possible (excluding penalties). The sprint race does not support this philosophy.

The sprint race spoils certain unknowns that would be found in the race. For example tire wear on the softs, and how easily cars can pass, or the fight between rivals.

Accidents can not only damage the car unnecessarily, a driver can often to collected in a crash from no fault of their own and then start the race in a compromised position, which is unfair.

With the budget cap in place, damaging cars or engines ran to the limit for an extended time is contradicting to the motto.

The sprint race usually is just a couple laps of excitement and then turns into follow the leader for the rest of the race anyways.

With Friday's "sprint qualifying", it limits the teams and drivers from dialing in their cars. Sometimes that can be a good thing, but I support that when it's caused by weather.

Qualifying format since 2010 has been an excellent way of comparing teammates. Sprint race muddies that data.

Qualifying in low fuel was a great way to see the performance comparison of the cars year after year. Sprint races greatly reduce the accuracy of those comparisons.

It has an impact on the history books. Silverstone 2021, Hamilton deserved pole for being the fastest in qualifying on Friday, however the history books will show Verstappen as the pole sitter for winning the sprint race.

Sprint races have a points value, which mean a bad track or bad weekend for a car/driver can be very costly. Get wrecked in sprint race, and fail to score points because of that in the real race, meanwhile their rival wins both. That's a huge points swing.

[AVockins]

I thought this had changed for this year and sundays race will start in the order they qualified in on friday?

[wisepie]

I don't like it, it's too manufactured for the actual GP's grid to be based on the sprint race result and there's too much likelihood of damage to cars with that extra race mileage. Quali on a Saturday works fine as it is.

[Tony]

OFF WITH IT'S HEAD!

[enjaybel3]

I like the sprint added to the regular event schedule for selected events. More contact and action for the fans. More opportunity and risks for teams and drivers.

[Kyss4k]

I don!t like it at all... I love the buildup to the weekend. To watch the cars getting better or worse due to setup, to guess, to start slowly, not just jump into action right away. You know... there's reason foreplay exists.

[Liscia]

I don!t like it at all... I love the buildup to the weekend. To watch the cars getting better or worse due to setup, to guess, to start slowly, not just jump into action right away. You know... there's reason foreplay exists.
I'm ALL FOR foreplay under other circumstances;) but not in F1!

[SS454]

I don!t like it at all... I love the buildup to the weekend. To watch the cars getting better or worse due to setup, to guess, to start slowly, not just jump into action right away. You know... there's reason foreplay exists.

LOL such a great analogy.

[Tifoso]

OFF WITH IT'S HEAD!

:-D

[Nick Singer]

Usual format is fine and doesn't need changing. Additional damage and wear and tear on cars would eat into funds already constricted by cost cap.
PLEASE LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE and bring back the grid girls you dummies!

1) Ridiculous messing about with a perfectly good system.

2) Definitely! I'm old enough to remember the Giacobazzi girls at races in Italy..

:-P

[aroutis]

I believe qualifying should be about the fastest driver and the fastest car, it determines the right to start as far forward as possible (excluding penalties). The sprint race does not support this philosophy.

The sprint race spoils certain unknowns that would be found in the race. For example tire wear on the softs, and how easily cars can pass, or the fight between rivals.

Accidents can not only damage the car unnecessarily, a driver can often to collected in a crash from no fault of their own and then start the race in a compromised position, which is unfair.

With the budget cap in place, damaging cars or engines ran to the limit for an extended time is contradicting to the motto.

The sprint race usually is just a couple laps of excitement and then turns into follow the leader for the rest of the race anyways.

With Friday's "sprint qualifying", it limits the teams and drivers from dialing in their cars. Sometimes that can be a good thing, but I support that when it's caused by weather.

Qualifying format since 2010 has been an excellent way of comparing teammates. Sprint race muddies that data.

Qualifying in low fuel was a great way to see the performance comparison of the cars year after year. Sprint races greatly reduce the accuracy of those comparisons.

It has an impact on the history books. Silverstone 2021, Hamilton deserved pole for being the fastest in qualifying on Friday, however the history books will show Verstappen as the pole sitter for winning the sprint race.

Sprint races have a points value, which mean a bad track or bad weekend for a car/driver can be very costly. Get wrecked in sprint race, and fail to score points because of that in the real race, meanwhile their rival wins both. That's a huge points swing.

While everything you post are valid, one could say that nothing there are not part of rules.
All I am saying is that change is not a bad thing.

[aroutis]

OFF WITH IT'S HEAD!

Black Adder ? :D

[wisepie]

I've only just read that the Sprint races will now earn points down to P8, 8 points for the win down to 1 point for 8th. And pole will still be recognised for the Friday quali, even though the driver may not start the race from pole, depending on where he finishes in the Sprint! Talk about confusing and change isn't always for the better, unless you're winning!:roll

[ferrari1.8t]

I've only just read that the Sprint races will now earn points down to P8, 8 points for the win down to 1 point for 8th. And pole will still be recognised for the Friday quali, even though the driver may not start the race from pole, depending on where he finishes in the Sprint! Talk about confusing and change isn't always for the better, unless you're winning!:roll

When did they change the point system for the sprint? This new format can either help us extend our point advantage or help our competitors close the gap over one weekend should something go wrong. :Hmm

[Tony]

Black Adder ? :D

:clap

[stefa]

When did they change the point system for the sprint? This new format can either help us extend our point advantage or help our competitors close the gap over one weekend should something go wrong. :Hmm

To be honest I was counting to MAX points extension for Ferrari. 1-2 in sprint + 1-2 in race + CL FL :-D

[ferrari1.8t]

To be honest I was counting to MAX points extension for Ferrari. 1-2 in sprint + 1-2 in race + CL FL :-D

That would be the ideal situation, but anything can happen in these sprint races. I am hopping for the best outcome so we can maximize our point lead as well!

Another thing to note with the new sprint race rules is that teams will be allowed to spend an extra $150,000 per sprint. Also, teams will get an added $100,000 if a car retires from the sprint. How much you want to bet some teams will deliberately not finish to get the extra money.

[Nick Singer]

I don't like it, it's too manufactured for the actual GP's grid to be based on the sprint race result and there's too much likelihood of damage to cars with that extra race mileage. Quali on a Saturday works fine as it is.

Give Liberty a few more years and 'sprint qualifying' will be the least Disney-esque new gimmick!

[Redfive]

Hate it, it's a stupid idea that turned out even worse than expected. I'm happy we only have three this year, but I'd prefer zero!

Get rid of it!

[aroutis]

When did they change the point system for the sprint? This new format can either help us extend our point advantage or help our competitors close the gap over one weekend should something go wrong. :Hmm

People tend to forget, Max is 7 points away from a race ban ;)

[Liscia]

Sprint races have only ever been a feature in amatuer racing? Now showing at the "Pinnacle"of racing! What's next? Cameo drivers from lower formulae?

[JacKy]

Random F3 race highlights > F1 sprint

Meaningless

[killer]

It's a motor race so I don't mind it. Some changes needed though:

1. There should be 2 practice sessions before Sprint Q.
2. Be more lenient with parc ferme after the Sprint Race.
3. Too many points on offer this year.
4. Set a fixed number of laps across all 3 Sprint Races.
5. Do it earlier in the day. Give the teams sufficient time to work on any damage and/or improve the cars. They should be at their best come the Grand Prix.

I won't mind if the Sprint goes away but they might as well do it right while it's in place.

[Liscia]

Just a single change back to the way it normally has been is all that's needed:)
Convoluted complications don't make for added excitement-just more chances for added
frustration?

[Redfive]

Sprint races ruin the main race. why?

We had a great mixed up grid, promising to be an exciting race and now after the sprint, we're mostly back in 2 by 2 order which will probably make the race boring.
also sprint races give drivers/teams a 'free pass' if they mess up qually.

[wisepie]

Sprint races ruin the main race. why?

We had a great mixed up grid, promising to be an exciting race and now after the sprint, we're mostly back in 2 by 2 order which will probably make the race boring.
also sprint races give drivers/teams a 'free pass' if they mess up qually.

Sprint race was OK for us but I'm still not too keen, it was exciting but the last laps were disheartening.

[Liscia]

An article today states Brawn would now like 5 sprint qualy races!? Say it ain't so:(

[ferrari1.8t]

An article today states Brawn would now like 5 sprint qualy races!? Say it ain't so:(

Looking like the teams were pushing for 6! WHY? the fans don't want them and don't like them. All for the show... :-s

Fortunately, the FIA has put a stop to it for now.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-puts-roadblock-on-f1s-sprint-race-expansion/10242506/

[Liscia]

I'm glad that's been quelled for now at least but hopefully that "bright idea" will die permanently!

[SilverSpeed]

Money talks...

[Liscia]

Money talks...

...and fans walk away?