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tifosi1993
19th April 2022, 04:40
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SFTifoso
19th April 2022, 07:48
Such a beautiful car. Only 1 DRS zone; good!

nani_s23
19th April 2022, 11:54
Motorsport Italy reports that Ferrari have decided not to bring the updated floor to Imola (reason is the sprint race & the possibility of the rain). The simulator work indicates that the F1-75 of the first three races will be competitive in Imola too.

FerrariF60
19th April 2022, 12:57
Tifosi1993 I absolutely love your starting threads for each race weekend

Thank you and keep up the good work

FORZA FERRARI

Gilles
19th April 2022, 13:10
Tifosi1993 I absolutely love your starting threads for each race weekend

Thank you and keep up the good work

FORZA FERRARI

I agree
Also his technicaly posts are very good
Thanks you mate

Gilles
19th April 2022, 13:48
What can we expect from this home race weekend?
Carlos will want to do well after Australia
The wet weather expected on Friday could favor Ferrari because the car offers the best handling and also because they tested the new rain tires more than the others. Both drivers are very strong on the wet (Carlos usually does very well on wet tracks)
The sprint race format would favor the F1-75 which is generally quick right out of the box and Leclerc who on the drivers side, is quick to set up his car
On the updates side, Ferrari could make very minor aero tweaks and weight reduction work
I expect the same or a bit more from the competition because there won't be enough time to work on big aero evolutions, also because of the weather, but some teams might have different goals (midfield teams) or aim to take more risks (some front teams)
I don't know if it can be accurate (depends of the weather), but only one Drs zone can be a good thing for Ferrari in quali and more surely in race on dry after a safety car
On the dry the car and Leclerc should do very well, the question remains where will be RB?
Behind i hope :-)

SFTifoso
19th April 2022, 13:55
What can we expect from this weekend?
Carlos will want to do well after Australia
The wet weather expected on Friday could favor Ferrari because the car offers the best handling and also because they tested the rain tires more than the others. Both drivers are very strong in the wet (Carlos usually does very well on wet tracks)
The sprint race format would favor the F1-75 which is generally quick right out of the box and Leclerc who on the driver side, is quick to set up his car
On the update side, Ferrari could make minor aero tweaks and some weight reduction work
I expect the same or a bit more from the competition because there won't be enough time to work on big aero evolutions, also because of the weather, but some teams might have different goals (midfield teams) or aim to take more risks (for front teams)
On the dry the car and Leclerc should do very well, the question remains where will be RB?
Behind i hope :-)

Hopefully RB change their car so much it upsets the balance even more.

Tifoso
19th April 2022, 16:04
Thanks for the threads, fratello :wine

tifosi1993
19th April 2022, 18:59
@FerrariF60, @Gilles and @Tifoso; welcome mates. :-)

FORZA FERRARI

tifosi1993
19th April 2022, 19:02
Nailing the setup from the get-go is more important here. So I get it why Ferrari have decided not to bring the new floor here.

Liscia
19th April 2022, 19:56
Tifosi1993 I absolutely love your starting threads for each race weekend

Thank you and keep up the good work

FORZA FERRARI

My thanks too and what a FANTASTIC photo choice of our gorgeous steed!

Gilles
19th April 2022, 20:33
Nailing the setup from the get-go is more important here. So I get it why Ferrari have decided not to bring the new floor here.

At the same time, nothing says that this new floor is ready. Sainz says they have a better car in the wind tunnel (like everyone else), but that's still virtual.
Also, maybe they needed the correlation work achieved in Australia to validate their thinking. If rght, starting from here, manufacture parts takes weeks, and a floor is a big and complex one.
Also, given the cost to manufacture these parts, they can develop it a bit more before putting it on the track.
Of course, this reasoning is only valid if the manufacturing cost is more penalizing than CFD + wind tunnel development, in terms of budget cap

Gilles
19th April 2022, 20:57
Hopefully RB change their car so much it upsets the balance even more.

Make Mercerdes' mistake? It would be funny, but we can't be so lucky
Toto's face this year is already enough fun

ferrari1.8t
20th April 2022, 01:05
Tifosi1993 I absolutely love your starting threads for each race weekend

Thank you and keep up the good work

FORZA FERRARI

x2 Thanks for the dedication!

Gilles
20th April 2022, 08:24
Nailing the setup from the get-go is more important here. So I get it why Ferrari have decided not to bring the new floor here.

Marc Gene confirms that we are understanding (updates and porpoising):
“I don’t expect, as I say, to see people bringing a lot of updates. We prefer to concentrate on the set-up to bring this car as low as possible. The lower you can run the car without the porpoising being an issue, of course, the more performance you have.”

Gilles
20th April 2022, 08:37
Tifosi 1993, i would add that you have been doing this good work for years
Before joining, I had been following this forum for many years and one reason why was the quality of your posts, among others (my phone shortcut icon for this forum leads to one of your very old post)
I'm sure right now there are still people who read us just because of posts like yours

stefa
20th April 2022, 09:40
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I've trust these guys

Gilles
20th April 2022, 12:36
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I've trust these guys

This "split" WE format like these "alternating" weather conditions should definitely favor Ferrari. RB won't bring many updates but a little weight reduction, like Ferrari I think.
SF needs to focus on capitalizing on bringing as many points as possible. If they made the perfect WE, their cumulative advantage would become very interesting.
Not to mention team orders, mostly drivers management, but since Carlos can be more on Charles' level in the wet (maybe) and RB could suffer in these same conditions, I hope that at home, it does not come to him the idea of ​​doing too much at the risk of ruining everything

paneristi
20th April 2022, 14:17
https://twitter.com/planet_f1/status/1516495597586452482?s=21&t=LytxUWXA2fA3uxeHbb7XlQ

KingCharles
21st April 2022, 00:06
This track should suit us against RB - hopefully Sainz can get his act together and get ahead of the RB's in Q

paolo lalli
21st April 2022, 02:22
Ferrari will bag a lot of points,no team will bring major upgrades no time to analyse them correctly.Ferrari have determined that the sf75 that won in Australia will be competitive in Italy.Red bull are somewhat perplexed with upgrades an angry max does not bode well for red bull and only adds pressure to the cooker.I suspect a steady as she goes for redbull sweating on finishing the race with with good points scored,any failure will be catastrophic for red bull yes they are under the spotlight big time.As always with f1 expect the unexpected .

jgonzalesm6
21st April 2022, 09:17
Carlos Sainz signs contract with Ferrari till 2024.

Nick Singer
21st April 2022, 09:49
Carlos Sainz signs contract with Ferrari till 2024.

If correct, good news. As long as SAI keeps his head and doesn't let LEC's likely dominance in the team get to him.

Tifoso Svedese
21st April 2022, 12:26
I'm seeing increased signs that qualifying will be dry.

As for Carlos, continuity is usually a good decision and he earned an extension with his performances last year. With Norris off the market there wasn't much in that had we wanted it anyway. If we passed over Alonso (who was my first choice back then) for 2021 there's no way he'd be an option for next year. Speaking of Norris, his premature decision to commit to a team that hasn't been on a dry pole for a decade until the end of 2025 may prove to be very costly for him if he doesn't have watertight performance clauses. If he misses the Mercedes boat when Hamilton departs, that could really prove costly.

Now Carlos just has to prove that Melbourne was merely a blip in his consistency. I think the current pairing are likely to be there for the rest of the decade unless something strange happens.

Brembo
21st April 2022, 12:31
If correct, good news. As long as SAI keeps his head and doesn't let LEC's likely dominance in the team get to him.

Do unto Charles as Charles did to Seb; race to win , Carlos should race to be #1 not get Rubenized. The results will be WDC, WCC !!!

aroutis
21st April 2022, 12:56
Do unto Charles as Charles did to Seb; race to win , Carlos should race to be #1 not get Rubenized. The results will be WDC, WCC !!!
If he can compete against Charles, and there is balance , sure.
However, I can't see Carlos as fast as Charles. Frankly I cannot see anyone on the current grid as fast as Charles on the grid while Charles has a good car.

Gilles
21st April 2022, 13:08
Do unto Charles as Charles did to Seb; race to win , Carlos should race to be #1 not get Rubenized. The results will be WDC, WCC !!!

Carlos has no chance of being better than Charles, why do you still want that, instead of accepting reality and expecting the best result for the team (we know your allergy to team orders, but managing a season also requires a certain discipline)?
Carlos can beat Charles sporadically, no more. And don't tell me he scored more points last year, it's just good for journalists who only know how to count, you saw the races anyway, right?

ferrari1.8t
21st April 2022, 13:38
Carlos has no chance of being better than Charles, why do you still want that, instead of accepting reality and expecting the best result for the team (we know your allergy to team orders, but managing a season also requires a certain discipline)?
Carlos can beat Charles sporadically, no more. And don't tell me he scored more points last year, it's just good for journalists who only know how to count, you saw the races anyway, right?

The guy has PTSD from 20+ years ago with Rubens and MSC. He cant let it go and be happy where we are as a team today. He would rather highjack every thread and make it about Russell, #8 and Rubens.

stefa
21st April 2022, 13:54
The guy has PTSD from 20+ years ago with Rubens and MSC. He cant let it go and be happy where we are as a team today. He would rather highjack every thread and make it about Russell, #8 and Rubens.

The guy is PATHETIC TROLL!!!!

SFTifoso
21st April 2022, 14:44
Carlos Sainz signs contract with Ferrari till 2024.

This should ease him mind and take pressure off of him.

tifosi1993
21st April 2022, 15:12
Carlos Sainz signs contract with Ferrari till 2024.

Totally deserved. I'm all for continuity of things that work. And our driver lineup not only works, its best in current F1.

Lapo
21st April 2022, 17:47
Totally deserved. I'm all for continuity of things that work. And our driver lineup not only works, its best in current F1.

Absolutely! Watch him go out and nail his first career Pole position this weekend. Forza Ferrari

Liscia
21st April 2022, 17:58
Well deserved by Carlos and I think Charles is happy at the news too. So far they seem to work quite well together WITHIN THE TEAM
which is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect!

wisepie
21st April 2022, 18:02
Great news for the team that Carlos is staying, both he and Charles have their strengths and hopefully they will complement each other and bring us a WDC and WCC.

Brembo
21st April 2022, 18:06
The guy is PATHETIC TROLL!!!!

ferrari 1.8 is entitled to his feelings; he's not trolling. If anythings pathetic it's Max's car! :rotfl

ferrari1.8t
21st April 2022, 18:12
ferrari 1.8 is entitled to his feelings; he's not trolling. If anythings pathetic it's Max's car! :rotfl

You know he was talking about you right? I guess you just get a kick out of being obnoxious...

nani_s23
21st April 2022, 18:24
@GiulyDuchessa reports that Ferrari detected a problem with the PU1 of Carlos Sainz after his retirement in Australia, hence why Ferrari will introduce the PU2 for Carlos this weekend. PU2 is set to give some extra horsepower compared to PU1.

nani_s23
21st April 2022, 18:24
Carlos's PU1 will be analysed and as far as it looks, it will be used in Friday practice sessions from now on.

Brembo
21st April 2022, 18:25
You know he was talking about you right? I guess you just get a kick out of being obnoxious...

Now you are being a little pathetic. The thread is about Imola coming up. Lets hope Ferrari can do it @ Home!! Plus a great sprint to look forward to!

ferrari1.8t
21st April 2022, 18:33
Now you are being a little pathetic. The thread is about Imola coming up. Lets hope Ferrari can do it @ Home!! Plus a great sprint to look forward to!

The thread is about Imola, yet you decided to bring up a driver who last drove for us in 2005. Do the whole forum a favour and give it a rest.

Brembo
21st April 2022, 18:53
The thread is about Imola ! Do the whole forum a favor and give it a rest.

You for sure need to give it a rest. Think about Imola 1,2 !!!

Gilles
21st April 2022, 21:41
@GiulyDuchessa reports that Ferrari detected a problem with the PU1 of Carlos Sainz after his retirement in Australia, hence why Ferrari will introduce the PU2 for Carlos this weekend. PU2 is set to give some extra horsepower compared to PU1.

Will they give more power to Carlos than to Charles?
let's see

Tony
22nd April 2022, 02:45
It's starting to feel like groundhog's day... guys, are we really doing this again? Just let it go.......

SFTifoso
22nd April 2022, 06:08
Gonna leave early to work so I can watch it at work. I have a 1 hour window, so please Latifi and Stroll, no red flags. Lol

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 06:10
@GiulyDuchessa reports that Ferrari detected a problem with the PU1 of Carlos Sainz after his retirement in Australia, hence why Ferrari will introduce the PU2 for Carlos this weekend. PU2 is set to give some extra horsepower compared to PU1.

It's a good opportunity for Carlos to win his first GP. The PU2 should provide significant power advantage over PU1 which is still running in a conservative power mode.

fratelliferrari
22nd April 2022, 09:00
Iam at Bologna atm. We are going to the circuit this afternoon. Rain is still heavy sadly…I really don’t like that because with rain anything can happen so Iam not feeling confident at all for our chances now…

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 09:09
It's a good opportunity for Carlos to win his first GP. The PU2 should provide significant power advantage over PU1 which is still running in a conservative power mode.

If I remember correctly, it could be a 10 HP increase over the PU1 (in its 5 HP increased output configuration used in Australia). It could be a 2 tenths advantage I think. It has also been said that its torque curve would favour mid-revs more than low-revs as on PU1

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 09:14
Iam at Bologna atm. We are going to the circuit this afternoon. Rain is still heavy sadly…I really don’t like that because with rain anything can happen so Iam not feeling confident at all for our chances now…

Don't worry too much, both our car and our drivers could do well even in wet conditions

nani_s23
22nd April 2022, 11:35
It's a good opportunity for Carlos to win his first GP. The PU2 should provide significant power advantage over PU1 which is still running in a conservative power mode.

Yup. But PU1 still has some power to unleash. That’s the word from MB.

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 12:28
Yup. But PU1 still has some power to unleash. That’s the word from MB.

SF wanted to complete reliability data collection in Miami and said the PU2 would be reinforced (in the lower engine area). So with the problem on Carlos' PU1, I don't see them easily releasing more power on Charles' PU1.
To me, Mercedes is just complaining one more time, and what they say is unproven but again more like strategic allegations

wisepie
22nd April 2022, 12:32
Iam at Bologna atm. We are going to the circuit this afternoon. Rain is still heavy sadly…I really don’t like that because with rain anything can happen so Iam not feeling confident at all for our chances now…

Nice to have you back on TSN, fratelli, I share your concerns with the current weather conditions but try to enjoy the weekend anyway.

Tifoso Svedese
22nd April 2022, 13:24
The way this car runs in the wet it might be time to dust off E40's rap jam 'Sprinkle Me' at this rate :-D


Nice to have you back on TSN, fratelli, I share your concerns with the current weather conditions but try to enjoy the weekend anyway.

Fratello/tifoso = singular
Fratelli/tiofsi = plural

Important distinction. My Italian ain't great but the grammar and vocabulary basics are there :wave

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 13:25
The F1-75 is an incredible car.

paneristi
22nd April 2022, 13:27
Did anyone see how SAI handled the spin? :thumb
Btw, love to see HAM up there with ZHO :clap

stefa
22nd April 2022, 13:28
So far, so good

stefa
22nd April 2022, 13:31
Wouldn't mind same classification for Q :-D

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 13:39
We look great in the changing conditions!

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 13:40
Wouldn't mind same classification for Q :-D


Did anyone see how SAI handled the spin? :thumb
Btw, love to see HAM up there with ZHO :clap

Haha yep! :-D

paolo lalli
22nd April 2022, 13:41
Super fast 1.5 seconds to nearest red bull,at this present time in f1 ferrari are in a league of there own in this new era.

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 13:44
Super fast 1.5 seconds to nearest red bull,at this present time in f1 ferrari are in a league of there own in this new era.

I reckon more protests will be on the way, anything and everything.

Super M
22nd April 2022, 13:48
I reckon more protests will be on the way, anything and everything.

Hmmm, If one dares to judge on this performance and weather, Then i'd say we look good in wet weather too.

I'm pretty sure the other guys we're pushing it. So that gap of 1.5 sec to Verstappen isn't indicative of real times.

But I'm quietly confident and happy :-D

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 13:54
FP1:

LECLERC (I): 28.415 (200) -- 30.585 (251) -- 30.402 (268) -- 1:29.402 (289)

SAINZ (I): 28.857 (201) -- 30.798 (252) -- 30.482 (270) -- 1:30.279 (288)

Verstappen (I): 28.524 (199) -- 31.092 (250) -- 31.194 (269) -- 1:30.867 (288)

Magnussen (I): 29.182 (195) -- 31.830 (244) -- 31.219 (262) -- 1:32.439 (275)

Schumacher (I): 29.519 (196) -- 31.704 (246) -- 31.765 (263) -- 1:32.988 (253)

Perez (I): 29.499 (196) -- 31.915 (246) -- 31.167 (266) -- 1:33.012 (276)

Alonso (I): 29.488 (194) -- 31.526 (247) -- 32.146 (263) -- 1:33.160 (280)

Vettel (I): 29.483 (199) -- 32.022 (247) -- 31.860 (266) -- 1:33.365 (246)

Tsunoda (I): 29.594 (193) -- 32.007 (246) -- 31.879 (262) -- 1:33.611 (273)

Russell (I): 29.615 (197) -- 32.169 (246) -- 32.026 (262) -- 1:34.262 (267)

Bottas (I): 29.598 (194) -- 32.551 (245) -- 31.916 (261) -- 1:34.615 (255)

Gasly (I): 29.918 (189) -- 32.646 (240) -- 32.246 (259) -- 1:35.104 (259)

Ocon (I): 30.284 (192) -- 32.736 (246) -- 32.400 (263) -- 1:35.420 (252)

Norris (I): 29.560 (184) -- 32.767 (241) -- 32.319 (258) -- 1:35.502 (256)

Ricciardo (I): 29.970 (194) -- 32.892 (242) -- 32.683 (259) -- 1:35.625 (252)

Stroll (I): 29.983 (192) -- 32.854 (242) -- 32.370 (261) -- 1:36.033 (261)

Albon (I): 30.181 (196) -- 33.201 (246) -- 32.785 (266) -- 1:36.461 (240)

Hamilton (W): 30.293 (194) -- 33.466 (241) -- 32.705 (259) -- 1:36.464 (239)

Zhou (I): 31.109 (192) -- 33.560 (242) -- 32.681 (261) -- 1:37.450 (254)

Latifi (I): 31.518 (192) -- 34.492 (242) -- 33.459 (261) -- 1:39.698 (228)

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 13:56
Huge discrepancies in top speeds and sector speeds across the field. Some have clearly gone for the old school wet setup.

Us, Red Bull and Alpine are on dry setup.

scudieros
22nd April 2022, 13:59
Too close to call but Carlos' new ICE seems to have a bit more pace. Looks promising, Charles with the new ICE and the new upgraded hybrid system is going to be mighty in Miami.

scudieros
22nd April 2022, 14:00
What a time to be a tifoso, no chinks in the Ferrari armour!

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 14:00
This was totally insane. What a pace from our team, wow! Hope it'll transfer to a quali and races. This looks good.

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 14:00
I reckon more protests will be on the way, anything and everything.

Guaranteed! Only Merc was able to have that gap over the field for 8 years.

But let them complain, this is our time and our era to dominate! Forza Ferrari!

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 14:14
I reckon more protests will be on the way, anything and everything.

It's just fp1
Nothing new because we have the best grip, the best ability to adapt the car to tires and temperatures and a quick to set car
If that wasn't enough, we have also two fast drivers in wet
If the rain stops for qualifying, we will still have the cold and slippery track conditions to give us the edge

nhiepka
22nd April 2022, 14:19
We spent much time to test these wet types, and now pay off :D

Nick Singer
22nd April 2022, 14:19
Do unto Charles as Charles did to Seb; race to win , Carlos should race to be #1 not get Rubenized. The results will be WDC, WCC !!!

I agree. However, I think LEC is exceptional. SAI is for sure an excellent driver but I think Charles is on a higher level - of the current drivers, similar to Max and Hamilton.

(I know it's forbidden to 'praise' HAM here, but you don't win 7 WDCs unless you're one of the GsOAT.)

FerrariF60
22nd April 2022, 14:27
I agree. However, I think LEC is exceptional. SAI is for sure an excellent driver but I think Charles is on a higher level - of the current drivers, similar to Max and Hamilton.

(I know it's forbidden to 'praise' HAM here, but you don't win 7 WDCs unless YOU HAVE THE BEST CAR ON THE GRID, A BUTLER/WING MAN TO ALWAYS PROTECT YOUR BACK ADN LASTLY NO COMPETITION FROM OTHER TEAMS.)

There mate, i fixed it for ya.....i;m sure that's exactly what you meant to say

hamster is anything but a $%^^% ING goat.....Schumi, Senna, Fangio....etc....that's what i call GOATS

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 14:27
It was good to see Charles and Carlos push it a bit and go beyond the level of grip. Id rather them explore the limits in practice than the race lol


I agree. However, I think LEC is exceptional. SAI is for sure an excellent driver but I think Charles is on a higher level - of the current drivers, similar to Max and Hamilton.

(I know it's forbidden to 'praise' HAM here, but you don't win 7 WDCs unless you're one of the GsOAT.)

If your team is allowed to cheat while others are hammered as soon as they find the very smaller of advantages you don't have to be great. Average or slightly above in a superlative car will do. Don't forget Nico beat him.

Nick Singer
22nd April 2022, 14:30
It was good to see Charles and Carlos push it a bit and go beyond the level of grip. Id rather them explore the limits in practice than the race lol



If your team is allowed to cheat while others are hammered as soon as they find the very smaller of advantages you don't have to be great. Average or slightly above in a superlative car will do. Don't forget Nico beat him.

Not wasting my time debating someone who truly thinks Hamilton is 'average'. I don't like the guy but FFS!

FerrariF60
22nd April 2022, 14:36
Not wasting my time debating someone who truly thinks Hamilton is 'average'. I don't like the guy but FFS!

dude, i did NOT say he's average......but no ^^%&ing way he's a GOAT

for crying out loud, he got SPANKED by a teammate Button, yeah Button in 2011 in the same car.....so i rest my case

Nick Singer
22nd April 2022, 14:42
No. 'Brembo' did.

I'll reiterate, I'm absolutely no fan of Hamilton but I'm afraid that outside the echo chamber of a Ferrari fan website, you won't find many who think he isn't among the top drivers of his generation.

Is Max better than HAM? Max was gifted the WDC last year - not actually, strictly speaking, deserved but gifted by incompetence and a failure by officials to properly manage the race.

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 14:47
dude, i did NOT say he's average......but no ^^%&ing way he's a GOAT

for crying out loud, he got SPANKED by a teammate Button, yeah Button in 2011 in the same car.....so i rest my case

He quoted me, but either way.

Nick Singer,

Hamilton got beaten in the same car by Rosberg and Button. If those two beat Nick Singer's "GOAT" what are they then? Gods?

Yeah, people think he is "among the top drivers of his generation" because they are either ignoring all the help the FIA gave him or are oblivious to it.

Max beat him in a different car so the determination of who is "better" is up for debate. What isn't up for debate is that he was, in fact, beaten in the same car by Button and Rosberg.

Hamilton was gifted his first WDC by Timo Glock and the rest by the FIA. What's your point?

Tifoso Svedese
22nd April 2022, 14:50
Hamilton is #5 all time no question (Schumacher, Fangio, Senna and Prost above) but it's the 'above Schumacher' crowd that really make me cringe.

FerrariF60
22nd April 2022, 14:50
It was good to see Charles and Carlos push it a bit and go beyond the level of grip. Id rather them explore the limits in practice than the race lol



If your team is allowed to cheat while others are hammered as soon as they find the very smaller of advantages you don't have to be great. Average or slightly above in a superlative car will do. Don't forget Nico beat him.

yeah Nico beat him as well as BUtton (who i call average at best) in 2011 in the same car....

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 14:56
yeah Nico beat him as well as BUtton (who i call average at best) in 2011 in the same car....

Exactly. I know Button is a 2009 WDC but let's be honest here... much like 6 of Hamilton's 7 Championships, it was the car. He had a cake walk to 6 wins in the first 7 races before RBR figured out their double diffuser.

ferrari4life
22nd April 2022, 15:04
is it a problem we rushed new engine for CS a bit early? Will it hurt us in the long run ensuring we have enough engines for the season?

PS. its really annoying to scroll through these threads with a lot of back and forth about crap not related to ferrari and the gp weekend

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 15:09
is it a problem we rushed new engine for CS a bit early? Will it hurt us in the long run ensuring we have enough engines for the season?

PS. its really annoying to scroll through these threads with a lot of back and forth about crap not related to ferrari and the gp weekend

Even if it ended up being a problem, I don't think one engine penalty is a huge issue. Mercedes even managed to make it an advantage.

ferrari4life
22nd April 2022, 15:12
Even if it ended up being a problem, I don't think one engine penalty is a huge issue. Mercedes even managed to make it an advantage.

whats the penalty for it? how many engines are we allowed? did it go up since they increased the number of GP's?

SS454
22nd April 2022, 15:15
FP1:

LECLERC (I): 28.415 (200) -- 30.585 (251) -- 30.402 (268) -- 1:29.402 (289)

SAINZ (I): 28.857 (201) -- 30.798 (252) -- 30.482 (270) -- 1:30.279 (288)

Verstappen (I): 28.524 (199) -- 31.092 (250) -- 31.194 (269) -- 1:30.867 (288)

Magnussen (I): 29.182 (195) -- 31.830 (244) -- 31.219 (262) -- 1:32.439 (275)

Schumacher (I): 29.519 (196) -- 31.704 (246) -- 31.765 (263) -- 1:32.988 (253)

Perez (I): 29.499 (196) -- 31.915 (246) -- 31.167 (266) -- 1:33.012 (276)

Alonso (I): 29.488 (194) -- 31.526 (247) -- 32.146 (263) -- 1:33.160 (280)

Vettel (I): 29.483 (199) -- 32.022 (247) -- 31.860 (266) -- 1:33.365 (246)

Tsunoda (I): 29.594 (193) -- 32.007 (246) -- 31.879 (262) -- 1:33.611 (273)

Russell (I): 29.615 (197) -- 32.169 (246) -- 32.026 (262) -- 1:34.262 (267)

Bottas (I): 29.598 (194) -- 32.551 (245) -- 31.916 (261) -- 1:34.615 (255)

Gasly (I): 29.918 (189) -- 32.646 (240) -- 32.246 (259) -- 1:35.104 (259)

Ocon (I): 30.284 (192) -- 32.736 (246) -- 32.400 (263) -- 1:35.420 (252)

Norris (I): 29.560 (184) -- 32.767 (241) -- 32.319 (258) -- 1:35.502 (256)

Ricciardo (I): 29.970 (194) -- 32.892 (242) -- 32.683 (259) -- 1:35.625 (252)

Stroll (I): 29.983 (192) -- 32.854 (242) -- 32.370 (261) -- 1:36.033 (261)

Albon (I): 30.181 (196) -- 33.201 (246) -- 32.785 (266) -- 1:36.461 (240)

Hamilton (W): 30.293 (194) -- 33.466 (241) -- 32.705 (259) -- 1:36.464 (239)

Zhou (I): 31.109 (192) -- 33.560 (242) -- 32.681 (261) -- 1:37.450 (254)

Latifi (I): 31.518 (192) -- 34.492 (242) -- 33.459 (261) -- 1:39.698 (228)

Aside from the trap speed, the speed figures at each sector point once again suggest Ferrari has amazing acceleration.

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 15:16
whats the penalty for it? how many engines are we allowed? did it go up since they increased the number of GP's?

Nope... I think it's still just 3

The idea is that later in the year Carlos will need another ICE or other parts since the second one was introduced at only Race-4

Did the engine get damaged from his off in Australia?

ferrari4life
22nd April 2022, 15:21
Nope... I think it's still just 3

The idea is that later in the year Carlos will need another ICE or other parts since the second one was introduced at only Race-4

Did the engine get damaged from his off in Australia?

i think thats what they are saying. they have some concerns with it

if its just 3 i imagine they have to make engines last at least 7 races? 3 races later being replaced is not a good sign

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 15:26
Nope... I think it's still just 3

The idea is that later in the year Carlos will need another ICE or other parts since the second one was introduced at only Race-4

Did the engine get damaged from his off in Australia?

No, it seems to be just a verification. Normally no impact for the following, he would reuse the PU1 later

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 15:28
i think thats what they are saying. they have some concerns with it

if its just 3 i imagine they have to make engines last at least 7 races? 3 races later being replaced is not a good sign

Don't worry, the engine is believed to be usable after checking

JChan
22nd April 2022, 15:30
3 engines for 23 races, so every engine is good for 7 races including practice.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 15:48
Track is dry and it's cold

paneristi
22nd April 2022, 15:53
….
If your team is allowed to cheat while others are hammered as soon as they find the very smaller of advantages you don't have to be great. Average or slightly above in a superlative car will do. Don't forget Nico beat him.
Love to read this. Truly

ntukza
22nd April 2022, 15:57
Hello folks. Please help with live video stream recommendations? Also, how is F1 TV? Considering subscribing since I don't have Sky anymore.

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 15:59
Hello folks. Please help with live video stream recommendations? Also, how is F1 TV? Considering subscribing since I don't have Sky anymore.

https://strims.gg/

https://v2.sportsurge.net/

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 16:02
3 engines for 23 races, so every engine is good for 7 races including practice.

But the distribution should be a bit different because the first engine is given to be used less powerful than the other two, and the last engine should only run races to keep as fresh as possible

Nick Singer
22nd April 2022, 16:05
He quoted me, but either way.

Nick Singer,

Hamilton got beaten in the same car by Rosberg and Button. If those two beat Nick Singer's "GOAT" what are they then? Gods?

Yeah, people think he is "among the top drivers of his generation" because they are either ignoring all the help the FIA gave him or are oblivious to it.

Max beat him in a different car so the determination of who is "better" is up for debate. What isn't up for debate is that he was, in fact, beaten in the same car by Button and Rosberg.

Hamilton was gifted his first WDC by Timo Glock and the rest by the FIA. What's your point?

Er, very unlikely that Timo deliberately slowed for Hamilton. He says not. Not remotely comparable to a proven example of incompetence by officials gifting Max the Championship.

Anyway, your aggressive 'Nick Singer's "GOAT"' is (1) not quite what I said and (2) demonstrates what a Richard Head you are.

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:06
That was dramatic.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:07
Damn it. Red flag

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 16:11
Er, very unlikely that Timo deliberately slowed for Hamilton. He says not. Not remotely comparable to a proven example of incompetence by officials gifting Max the Championship.

Anyway, your aggressive 'Nick Singer's "GOAT"' is (1) not quite what I said and (2) demonstrates what a Richard Head you are.

Awe... Bless your heart.

Hamilton is slightly above average and was given a superb car at the same time the FIA made everyone else play with one hand tied behind their backs. Without the FIA Hamilton would have had 1, maybe 2 Championships. Without Timo Glock AND without the FIA he may have had none.

FerrariF60
22nd April 2022, 16:15
Awe... Bless your heart.

Hamilton is slightly above average and was given a superb car at the same time the FIA made everyone else play with one hand tied behind their backs. Without the FIA Hamilton would have had 1, maybe 2 Championships. Without Timo Glock AND without the FIA he may have had none.

bogs1207
22nd April 2022, 16:16
Session resumes

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 16:26
Man the Ferrari is bouncing!

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:31
Oh....Hamilton just made it. 0.004 ahead of Tsunoda.

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 16:31
Oh....Hamilton just made it. 0.004 ahead of Tsunoda.

But remember... he's the GOAT, right? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 16:32
Whamilton on the radio crying :rotfl

FerrariF60
22nd April 2022, 16:32
Wow.....Leclerc....

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 16:32
15th…some Goat.

Ferrari P1 and P3…looking good. If Carlos has new the PU, why is he still behind Charles?

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:33
Ambient temperature 12.7C

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:34
15th…some Goat.

Ferrari P1 and P3…looking good. If Carlos has new the PU, why is he still behind Charles?

Regarding so called goat it was always JUST THE CAR!!!

FerrariF60
22nd April 2022, 16:37
Regarding so called goat it was always JUST THE CAR!!!

we ALWAYS knew that....but teh Hamster fans as well as english biased media....in their eyes the is the MIGHTY GOAT.....goat my **s

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:39
Rain is comming

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 16:41
Oh no Carlos!!

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:41
Red Flag

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 16:41
Carlos come on!

bogs1207
22nd April 2022, 16:42
Carlos hits the wall

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:42
Sainc!!!!!

He cannot stand the preasure!!!! This is disaster and imberasment

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 16:42
Carlos not helping us this weekend…

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 16:42
Not again...............ouch

elnano14
22nd April 2022, 16:42
*** man...

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:43
It happens. No need to overblow things.

Tifoso Svedese
22nd April 2022, 16:44
Meh Carlos, can't do that. Already through!!!!

At least he should be able to salvage a P4 on the grid tomorrow.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:44
You have the best car, new 2 years contract and then through it all away

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 16:44
If the rain does come now, he may start P10 for the sprint. Sill not where he needs to be to help the team and Charles battle Max

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 16:44
Sainz number 2 confirmed?

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 16:44
It happens. No need to overblow things.

We know that. But why Carlos? Why not eh.....Max?

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 16:45
That crash will probably hurt Charles as well, double whammy.

Nick Singer
22nd April 2022, 16:45
I agree. However, I think LEC is exceptional. SAI is for sure an excellent driver but I think Charles is on a higher level - of the current drivers, similar to Max and Hamilton.

patrese86
22nd April 2022, 16:45
Why is he pushing like that when we are comfortably quicker!!!

It's daft.

Luckily he will make up places in the sprint race so not a complete waste of a weekend but that's just not good enough. He's too impatient

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:45
Sainz number 2 confirmed?

In my view 100%

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:46
I think Carlos needs to calm down. He's trying hard to match Charles but he shouldn't. Charles is simply faster.

Someone at Ferrari needs to talk to him.

SilverSpeed
22nd April 2022, 16:46
Sainz has the best car of the field but again this :-(.

Leclerc for Champ!!!

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 16:46
Might have taken out the gearbox too

Aziz
22nd April 2022, 16:46
Gearbox could be damaged

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 16:46
Might have taken out the gearbox too

The rear should be ok.

nhiepka
22nd April 2022, 16:47
CS now is Number 2. Good

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:47
And it is raining

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 16:47
And now the lottery begins...

elnano14
22nd April 2022, 16:48
Sainz really needs a psychologist to talk to him

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:48
Both Mercedes out of Q3

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:50
Carlos still has the car. He will easily clear out the midfield tomorrow and finish atleast in P4.

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 16:51
Sainz really needs a psychologist to talk to him

Well I would tell him "look, you are trying too hard mate, this year went the wrong way for you because of that, take it easy, let's support Charles and next year you'll have another fair chance". He would be furious, but it would ease the pressure he has on himself.

gvera
22nd April 2022, 16:52
Sainz will hopefully start form 10th and has a car able to let him recover tomorrow and start form a decent position on sunday.

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 16:52
It happens.....but again Charles has to do it all on his own. That's a shame.

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 16:52
Both Mercedes out of Q3

Every cloud and all that!

nani_s23
22nd April 2022, 16:56
Carlos still has the car. He will easily clear out the midfield tomorrow and finish atleast in P4.

sprint results will decide grid right?

Noquarter
22nd April 2022, 16:58
Carlos is too weak for front runner team. Like Gasly. Tomorrow he will crash again.

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 16:58
sprint results will decide grid right?

Yes. And it will also give out points. The Top 8 will get points tomorrow.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 16:58
What a poor conditions

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 17:01
woof woof and hamilton having a barney :rotfl

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:01
Toto :-D
Priceless

faloupas
22nd April 2022, 17:01
What happened with Carlos.Just opened my TV.

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 17:02
woof woof and hamilton having a barney :rotfl

Hamilton probably asking him why he’s letting Russell be faster than him. Lol

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 17:02
What happened with Carlos.Just opened my TV.

Lost the rear and hit the gravel trap, then wall. Will start the sprint P10

nani_s23
22nd April 2022, 17:05
Yes. And it will also give out points. The Top 8 will get points tomorrow.

Hmm thanks. Given the car without a mistake Carlos should get into P4 at least. SC would help.
As I said earlier I’m disappointed given his abilities to work around with the car. He needs to calm down.

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 17:12
Another red flag.

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 17:12
The rear should be ok.

Hard to say. It was a side impact and could have pushed the driveshaft into the gearbox. Like what happened to Charles in Monaco.

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 17:15
The first lap was not looking impressive from Charles compared to Perez.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:18
This is going to be a sprint race, as track is going to evolve lap by lap

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 17:23
Heart

In

Mouth!

458 Italia
22nd April 2022, 17:23
Eek!

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 17:24
This is some BS right there!

Tifoso Svedese
22nd April 2022, 17:24
Verstappen green sector under yellow on a wet straight. Should get a grid penalty.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:24
Damn it!!!!!

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 17:25
Redbull is somehow better to drive, looks stable, ridiculously fast in S1. Our porpoising is surely not helping.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:25
What a stupid session

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 17:25
Verstappen green sector under yellow on a wet straight. Should get a grid penalty.

That's not how it works

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:26
This is not going how I have hoped

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:27
Verstappen green sector under yellow on a wet straight. Should get a grid penalty.

He lifted off.

patrese86
22nd April 2022, 17:27
We are running the car too low.

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 17:27
This is not going how I have hoped

Wet race or quali is always a crap show.

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:28
P2 is still a decent result. But 3 minutes still remaining.

patrese86
22nd April 2022, 17:28
They took too long to bring the red flag out

PURE PASSION
22nd April 2022, 17:28
So from being 8 tenths faster then Ves on inters,we end up 8 ths down ???!!!!!

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 17:28
I don't think Charles can still take it. But Max lifted , so the lap is 100% legal.

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:29
So from being 8 tenths faster then Ves on inters,we end up 8 ths down ???!!!!!

2nd lap. Ver did 2, Lec did 1. It makes a big difference.

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 17:30
So from being 8 tenths faster then Ves on inters,we end up 8 ths down ???!!!!!

Well Verstappen was like 1,6s faster on the second split before he lifted, soo...

Aziz
22nd April 2022, 17:30
So from being 8 tenths faster then Ves on inters,we end up 8 ths down ???!!!!!

Quite strange

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 17:31
Pole would be a miracle now. Just bad luck brought Charles in this position.

Aziz
22nd April 2022, 17:31
Well Verstappen was like 1,6s faster on the second split before he lifted, soo...

But how can he be 1.6 sec faster in S1 alone

nhiepka
22nd April 2022, 17:31
Quite strange

CC was slow down that why

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 17:33
More rain. It's over.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:33
Rain again, so that's it

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:34
What a downer this Q was

MSC Fan
22nd April 2022, 17:36
Sainz will really be going down Vettel's path of overdoing something when he's on the backfoot and under pressure at this rate. Hope he can salvage back to at least P3-P5 tomorrow.

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:40
Another Red Flag. P2 for Charles.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:41
Such anticlimax

WS6TransAm01
22nd April 2022, 17:41
This is one of the worst qualifying I have ever seen.

Such horse $#!+

Tifoso Svedese
22nd April 2022, 17:41
At least Charles has three chances to get past. Two starts and one pit stop. One gigantic meh, especially the no red flag for 20 seconds after the Alfa appeared on screen. Pathetic.

Grimlock
22nd April 2022, 17:41
I really hate this sprint weekend format ... it messes up the entire flow of a GP weekend IMHO

Kyss4k
22nd April 2022, 17:42
What a clown show this was... But I'll say this. if we were fast enough, we would be ahead. So it will not be as easy as we thought.

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 17:42
Could crofty be any happier? Unbelievable the hate he has for Ferrari. How could you be happy with a qualifying like that? Disgusting.

What a shame for Charles. Hopefully we can make up places in the sprint. Forza Ferrari

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:42
So we're P2 and P10, Red Bull P1 and P7.

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 17:43
It's a pole for Max but we will never know who was fastest........

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:44
Could crofty be any happier? Unbelievable the hate he has for Ferrari. How could you be happy with a qualifying like that? Disgusting.

What a shame for Charles. Hopefully we can make up places in the sprint. Forza Ferrari

You're hearing things. Crofty was also quite happy when Charles got the pole in Australia.

And as a commentator, you can't afford to sound like a downer at the end of qualifying, unless there is a big accident.

Tifoso Svedese
22nd April 2022, 17:45
At least the dirty side has been completely neutralized for the dry tomorrow so Charles has a good chance to make a start. He would also easily clear Norris should he fall behind him the moment DRS comes into play. Hopefully we can get Carlos back to the second row before the main race.

ntukza
22nd April 2022, 17:46
https://strims.gg/

https://v2.sportsurge.net/

Thank you.

icedeepan
22nd April 2022, 17:46
P2 isnt bad at all given the lottery with the conditions and the red flags. We never got to see the pace of Leclerc fully. Full attack tomorrow.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:46
I really hate this sprint weekend format ... it messes up the entire flow of a GP weekend IMHO

Thereforeit should be abanoned, as it is stupid!!!!

tifosi1993
22nd April 2022, 17:47
The gap between Charles and Max is 46 points. He doesn't need to take any risks.

VSOPilot
22nd April 2022, 17:48
Good Lord ... I really despise these Sky TV Morons. Trying to find issues with everything. They want K-Mag removed from the Q3 results ... even though they say otherwise!

ferrari1.8t
22nd April 2022, 17:48
You're hearing things. Crofty was also quite happy when Charles got the pole in Australia.

And as a commentator, you can't afford to sound like a downer at the end of qualifying, unless there is a big accident.

I guess, but it was disappointing for us Tifosi and anti-climatic.

bogs1207
22nd April 2022, 17:49
Thereforeit should be abanoned, as it is stupid!!!!

Me too i hate it. It feels weird to have a qualifying on friday.

MSC Fan
22nd April 2022, 17:51
We also have a better acceleration, a good start is all we need. The nature of the track, the F1-75's competitiveness and Leclerc's talent will be more than enough to handle the rest.

Shadowfax84
22nd April 2022, 17:54
P2 is fine in these conditions, but Carlos - FFS!! *** are you doing man? Beaching a Ferrari is unacceptable, especially a title winning one.

stefa
22nd April 2022, 17:58
Any news on CS car, damage vise?

nani_s23
22nd April 2022, 17:59
Come race day if it is dry Ferrari is P1 & P2. Mark it.

SS454
22nd April 2022, 17:59
2 hours of red flag filled "qualifying" that doesn't even determine the grid for Sunday's race. Kind of a waste of time if you ask me.

Carlos another big mistake. Still has the sprint race to move forward, but its not an easy track to pass. He just seems to be pushing too hard.

Is Red Bull really that fast? Who knows. I kind of doubt it.

Mercedes out of the top 10. Can't say that means anything yet as we saw Hamilton plow through the field in the Brazil 2021 Sprint race.

Honzus
22nd April 2022, 18:02
Anticlimax session, no need to risk for Charles so P2 for sprint is OK. Unneccesary risk for Carlos, too many crashes, too many mistakes.

wisepie
22nd April 2022, 18:04
The way this car runs in the wet it might be time to dust off E40's rap jam 'Sprinkle Me' at this rate :-D



Fratello/tifoso = singular
Fratelli/tiofsi = plural

Important distinction. My Italian ain't great but the grammar and vocabulary basics are there :wave

I am fully aware of the singular/plural versions of Italian, tifoso svedese, but please be aware that 'fratelliferrari' in this case is his own title for the purpose of TSN! I am pleased that your Italian is good enough to correct me, and I will not take offence!;-)

ferrari4life
22nd April 2022, 18:09
didnt i see somewhere that we had plenty of pace? cant we get p1 back again tommorow? it would nice to see what CL can do following tbh.
Hope someone tells CS to stop trying so hard to not be number 2 and just race

did anyone watch FP1. is CL 1.4 faster than MV for real?

elnano14
22nd April 2022, 18:15
People need to remember that track condidtion playing an extremely important role in those sessions even in just two 2 minutes. Max had 2 push laps in Q3, while Charles only had 1 push lap and 1 prep lap (and he did beat Max in the 1st lap), so that's why Max improved THAT MUCH in the second run. It's not the car or the driver, just Charles didn't have another chance

wisepie
22nd April 2022, 18:17
Quali was a mess with all the red flags and doesn't even stand for the actual GP so the whole sprint weekend format is a waste of time, effort and money, especially in poor weather for the fans. Please drop it. Happy for Charles to get P2, doesn't mean much except for the sprint race, Carlos needs to get it together although one slight error is painful in those conditions. We'll see where tomorrow leaves us.:roll

paolo lalli
22nd April 2022, 18:56
Last year is was p nothing with booing on top,so be grateful quali was ruined by red-flag,simple as that,sainz needs to reel in the errors or his time will be cut short at ferrari,contract or no contract,to many mistakes,he is to hot under the collar,a podium is possible,but I doubt it the reasons will be obvious so he can prove me wrong.

Liscia
22nd April 2022, 18:59
Some untimely setbacks today but all is far from lost. This sprint format makes for
some unneeded big-time complications and monkey wrenches!

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 19:18
Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not. Today Max was the lucky one and Charles was not. It was all about circumstances. It can provide us with a very interesting race though. Charles will be the faster one if it's dry, and Max will defend as hard as he can. And then........one of them will win. I trust Charles can do it.

Yeah.....and Carlos....this is not the way to go. Of course he can fight back in the race, but it should not be necessary. Carlos wants to fight with Charles and Max, but I don't know if that's realistic and now he's is overdriving. I'm sorry, but I think these two are just a little faster. Maybe stop trying so hard, just get as much points as you can for the team and relax. Then a racewin will come someday. But a championship with Charles in the other car? Not likely.

Alonsomaniac
22nd April 2022, 19:19
Hmmmm........double one. Did not know I was so frustrated I hit the enter key twice.........


Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not. Today Max was the lucky one and Charles was not. It was all about circumstances. It can provide us with a very interesting race though. Charles will be the faster one if it's dry, and Max will defend as hard as he can. And then........one of them will win. I trust Charles can do it.

Yeah.....and Carlos....this is not the way to go. Of course he can fight back in the race, but it should not be necessary. Carlos wants to fight with Charles and Max, but I don't know if that's realistic and now he's is overdriving. I'm sorry, but I think these two are just a little faster. Maybe stop trying so hard, just get as much points as you can for the team and relax. Then a racewin will come someday. But a championship with Charles in the other car? Not likely.

kshitijmalkan
22nd April 2022, 19:23
Hey Guys

I missed quali, but did catch the highlights on YT.

Commentators kept repeating the significant delta of .5s in favour of RBRs and how Ferrari are not able to match them.

Is anyone able to reflect on the nature of the track in S1 and where we are behind?

Thanks

Shadowfax84
22nd April 2022, 19:28
Hey Guys

I missed quali, but did catch the highlights on YT.

Commentators kept repeating the significant delta of .5s in favour of RBRs and how Ferrari are not able to match them.

Is anyone able to reflect on the nature of the track in S1 and where we are behind?

Thanks

Nature of the track was that it was sky was every 2 minutes so the nature of the track was changing every 2 minutes. Rookie drivers kept crashing bringing red flags, damaging cars, putting debris on the track when it was semi-dry and then it was back to every 2 minutes. After 2 hours, we got this grid not because of pace but whom ever ended up keeping the car on track. commentators saying delta .5 etc is just talking out of their ****. Man who keeps the car on the track and not smash into bits in these conditions always wins.

gump1480
22nd April 2022, 20:10
Does anyone have the sector times and Speed Trap data of Q2 dry runs?

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 20:40
Does anyone have the sector times and Speed Trap data of Q2 dry runs?

Not sure if that would have any significance.
Charles would have gotten pole without all those red flags, his car was better than the RB in the wet
His first and only 'fast' lap was better than Max's first one, but unfortunately, he couldn't complete another one, unlike Max
In these conditions, drivers improve lap after lap by learning the limits step by step
I think he could take the lead tomorrow, if he finds how to overtake without taking too many risks
I think he could wait for a possible Max's tire degradation

SFTifoso
22nd April 2022, 20:46
More disappointed with Carlos than Max getting pole. Being 2-3 for the sprint would’ve been nice.

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 20:50
More disappointed with Carlos than Max getting pole. Being 2-3 for the sprint would’ve been nice.

I might seem strange, but I tell myself that starting tenth, he is not likely to crash Charles at the first corner
I'm afraid of Carlos' pride and I don't think he's finally accepted that he doesn't have his level

paolo lalli
22nd April 2022, 20:59
Max got lucky he beat the rain,ferrari definitely had the pace for pole.Thats life in the f1 world,let's see how aggressive Max will be in turn 1 trying to fend of the faster ferrari expect the unexpected 100%.

Gilles
22nd April 2022, 21:03
Does anyone have the sector times and Speed Trap data of Q2 dry runs?

Not wat you want but found that :
https://i.imgur.com/5rfS2Xz.jpeg

Noquarter
22nd April 2022, 23:27
Carlos is just second tier driver. Waste of Ferrari seat.

kshitijmalkan
23rd April 2022, 00:36
Nature of the track was that it was sky was every 2 minutes so the nature of the track was changing every 2 minutes. Rookie drivers kept crashing bringing red flags, damaging cars, putting debris on the track when it was semi-dry and then it was back to every 2 minutes. After 2 hours, we got this grid not because of pace but whom ever ended up keeping the car on track. commentators saying delta .5 etc is just talking out of their ****. Man who keeps the car on the track and not smash into bits in these conditions always wins.

Thanks.

gump1480
23rd April 2022, 02:30
Not sure if that would have any significance.
Charles would have gotten pole without all those red flags, his car was better than the RB in the wet
His first and only 'fast' lap was better than Max's first one, but unfortunately, he couldn't complete another one, unlike Max
In these conditions, drivers improve lap after lap by learning the limits step by step
I think he could take the lead tomorrow, if he finds how to overtake without taking too many risks
I think he could wait for a possible Max's tire degradation

Just wanted to know how much we are losing on the straights and how much we are able to pullback through the corners. This is going to be very relevant for the Sprint race/Main race.

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 07:54
Just wanted to know how much we are losing on the straights and how much we are able to pullback through the corners. This is going to be very relevant for the Sprint race/Main race.

Yes, I understand you, but what I meant was that there were no really clean laps to see something accurate, the real pace was not shown

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 07:56
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQx4UevX0AM8bDL?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 08:20
Just wanted to know how much we are losing on the straights and how much we are able to pullback through the corners. This is going to be very relevant for the Sprint race/Main race.

Another graphic showing that Charles' tires weren't at the right temperature in first sector
https://www.formulapassion.it/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/F1_IMO_22_Q.jpg

paolo lalli
23rd April 2022, 08:30
Max knows Charles would have had pole,but he will take it anyway.

stefa
23rd April 2022, 08:42
What is the weather now at Imola? What is forecast for today and tomorrow?

Greig
23rd April 2022, 08:48
Charles will take Max of the line and win the sprint, and Max will blow the car on Sunday anyway :-D

Hopefully Carlos can make some gains today so is in play for the race.

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 08:52
What is the weather now at Imola? What is forecast for today and tomorrow?

Dry today it seems
LIttle rain possibility tomorow
https://www.weathercrave.com/weather-forecast-italy/stadium-253/weather-forecast-circuit-enzo-et-dino-ferrari-autodromo-enzo-e-dino-ferrari-hourly-tomorrow

scudieros
23rd April 2022, 09:09
Charles can take Max at the start of sprint and get maximum points today and tomorrow he can scamper into the distance every time after a safety car if it rains. Such is the dominance we have this year. The boy has a cool head and we have a great car. Only unknowns and external events can affect race results this year if we keep this advantage. Carlos has really thrown away a chance to be in the hunt or have a say in the championship, he seems to have relegated himself to a supporting driver role. Although he is failing at that so far too. We should aspire to bring home both championships with such a car or it would have been a wasted golden opportunity. Let's hope Charles can keep his edge and that Carlos finds clean weekends.

stefa
23rd April 2022, 09:25
Dry today it seems
LIttle rain possibility tomorow
https://www.weathercrave.com/weather-forecast-italy/stadium-253/weather-forecast-circuit-enzo-et-dino-ferrari-autodromo-enzo-e-dino-ferrari-hourly-tomorrow

Thank you

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 10:58
Q3 onboards :

https://scuderiafans.com/onboard-video-charles-leclerc-and-max-verstappens-first-q3-laps-compared-2022-imola-gp/

jgonzalesm6
23rd April 2022, 11:04
I'm relishing in this:

For the 1st time in a decade, both Mercedes F1 cars did'nt make it into Q3--> Russell P11 and Lewis P13........priceless.

jgonzalesm6
23rd April 2022, 11:06
Take it for what it's worth. I hope it's dry today and Sunday. Weather update:

SAT: In contrast to Fri, a beautiful morning at the circuit with 21C expected this afternoon. Shower potential PM varies between forecast models, but interestingly latest FIA guidance is for a 60% risk of heavy showers during sprint race window & race Sunday

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 11:11
I'm relishing in this:

For the 1st time in a decade, both Mercedes F1 cars did'nt make it into Q3--> Russell P11 and Lewis P13........priceless.

Me too, and without Occon's gearbox problem, Hamilton wouldn't even have reached Q2
Also, they say Hamilton and Wolf had a fight, right after Q2
As for Russel, didn't Brembo tell us he was a genius in the wet?

Gilles
23rd April 2022, 11:25
Take it for what it's worth. I hope it's dry today and Sunday. Weather update:

SAT: In contrast to Fri, a beautiful morning at the circuit with 21C expected this afternoon. Shower potential PM varies between forecast models, but interestingly latest FIA guidance is for a 60% risk of heavy showers during sprint race window & race Sunday

I don't know who to trust now :
On the following site, they say no rain this afternoon, and maybe a little sunday
https://www.weathercrave.com/weather-forecast-italy/stadium-253/weather-forecast-circuit-enzo-et-dino-ferrari-autodromo-enzo-e-dino-ferrari-hourly-tomorrow

KingCharles
23rd April 2022, 12:04
Carlos is just second tier driver. Waste of Ferrari seat.

The important thing is he knows his role as a number 2 driver and moves the **** out of the way if he ever is ahead. 'No need for the Leclerc is faster than you' radio just move over asap. He has been a let down IMO. Weak under pressure and weak in wheel-to-wheel battles. You get to know what a driver is like when they are really in the hot seat. It's easy being in the 3rd best car and looking like the hero when having the odd good race with no pressure.

PURE PASSION
23rd April 2022, 12:06
Kind of don't like our pace so much. I now that we are heavy on fuel but I expected to be kind of faster. I also read that the team told Lec that the target lap should be around 1.20.8 and he was lapping almost 1s slower . And the others also was on long stints tand they where faster. This is just how it looks ,hope we are heavier or down on power !!!

Aziz
23rd April 2022, 12:07
Kind of don't like our pace so much. I now that we are heavy on fuel but I expected to be kind of faster. I also read that the team told Lec that the target lap should be around 1.20.8 and he was lapping almost 1s slower . And the others also was on long stints tand they where faster. This is just how it looks ,hope we are heavier or down on power !!!

Yeah, me as well, but I don't think we are 1s slower all of a sudden

Aziz
23rd April 2022, 12:16
Sai keeps making mistakes, Per faster on Medium than Lec on soft

Tifoso Svedese
23rd April 2022, 12:29
Come on guys, Russell is P1 and Hamilton's 2021 pole lap in stable dry conditions was 1:14.4 so that tells everything about what kind of fuel levels are involved here :wave

Super M
23rd April 2022, 12:33
Come on guys, Russell is P1 and Hamilton's 2021 pole lap in stable dry conditions was 1:14.4 so that tells everything about what kind of fuel levels are involved here :wave

Sometimes its not worth explaining really........:Hmm

Alonsomaniac
23rd April 2022, 12:40
In a sprintweekend the FP3 is totally different. In a normal weekend you concentrate on qualy speed, now you concentrate on racepace and tactics.

Nick Singer
23rd April 2022, 12:51
I may be wrong but, as far as I can see, only Charles, Carlos and Max have done laps under 1.19.0s in the dry. Hopefully normal service (Ferrari dominate and Max breaks down!) will continue.

#ForzaFerrari

Alonsomaniac
23rd April 2022, 13:29
Don't be surprised if Charles finishes P2 this afternoon. Max will defend as hell and Charles won't risk it all. I hope he will be able to pass Max, but I'm not too sure....

wisepie
23rd April 2022, 13:36
Don't be surprised if Charles finishes P2 this afternoon. Max will defend as hell and Charles won't risk it all. I hope he will be able to pass Max, but I'm not too sure....

I share your thoughts, better to finish and continue to get points but always extra pressure to deliver the best result on home ground.

JChan
23rd April 2022, 13:49
If Max finish 1st then CL at 2nd, only a 1 point loss in a sprint race. try to concentrate on race day because it's a 7 point difference between 1-2