2022 Emilia Romagna (Imola) GP - Race Thread

[458 Italia]

?

Ant Davidson was listening to Charles' radio.

[jgonzalesm6]

Yuki beating Gasly currently......okay.

[458 Italia]

Croft is gonna go wild if hamilton passes the AT.

[Greig]

Charles in pits

[458 Italia]

hamilton gonna be lapped by Ferrari :-D

Or maybe not...

[stefa]

CL PIT

[SilverSpeed]

CL going for FL

[Kyss4k]

Max DNF incoming soon.

I would bet that they will be bulletproof from now on. They always were insane with solving their issues. We had an edge, Leclerc used it (Sainz messed it all up), but now we can't depen on them making mistakes. We have to brute force outdevelop, outsmart and outrace them.

[stefa]

Great!!!!

[SilverSpeed]

Great the clowns are back at the pitwall :lol.

[Greig]

Great the clowns are back at the pitwall :lol.

Trolling?

[458 Italia]

Ah balls red bull pitting as well.

[Greig]

Charles past Lando easy enough, prob wont get fastest lap anyway but worth a try lol.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Now the strategists gifted FL to Verstappen too yikes what a bad weekend :lol They needed to wait until it was three laps to go or so.

[SilverSpeed]

GOGOGOGO CL ALMOST DRS!!!!!!

[Greig]

Now the strategists gifted FL to Verstappen too yikes what a bad weekend :lol

He had it anyway.

[458 Italia]

It's been all to easy for red bull this race.

[SilverSpeed]

CL IN DRS !!!!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Greig, what I meant is that if pitting late enough there's no time to respond.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Hopefully he can pass the mediocre dude in front of him but I doubt it.

[SilverSpeed]

Can't be that Perez is faster then CL...

Or that RB has a massive update again.

[Greig]

Greig, what I meant is that if pitting late enough there's no time to respond.

Meh, P2 would be worth more than FL.....

[stefa]

Too far

[458 Italia]

Let's see if he can do it with DRS.

[totox]

The bouncing of our car neutralize the effect of the drs

[SilverSpeed]

We need PU2 update for more top speed this RB is lightning fast on the straights.

[stefa]

OK. They tried...

[Greig]

oh great Charles

[Kyss4k]

.................................................. ...............................................

[tifosi1993]

Disaster

[458 Italia]

Very frustrating!

[ferrari1.8t]

Gone from bad to worse.

[SilverSpeed]

:furious

[Greig]

Fantastic

[458 Italia]

This is a disaster!

[stefa]

Great!!!!

[458 Italia]

I've seen enough...

[SilverSpeed]

WHY WHY WHY ffs WHY take the risks...

Just give the lead away will ya :furious.

[stefa]

So much of a damage limitation. This is DAMAGE!!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

2017 and 2018 all over again.

Let's hope the Honda goes pop.

[bogs1207]

P3 should have been okey

[stefa]

I am furious!!!!

[Greig]

Sadly Charles always has those mistakes in him....

[WS6TransAm01]

He’s been taking that curb way to aggressive all weekend

[Aziz]

Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[patrese86]

That's so bad.

idiots. Why are you doing this. You've just thrown away 15 points!!!

[stefa]

This is how championships are lost!!!!

[SilverSpeed]

Ah well it was good for 3 races, now we are back to our old self it seems.

[Kyss4k]

Ok, you wanna to lose the championship Ferrari? You are doing a great job. Contiune like that. Make more mistakes, don't develop your car, drivers... I don't have anything more to say. We are morrons. We've had the best car. Clowns, complete clowns.

[PURE PASSION]

Such a disaster!!!!

[jgonzalesm6]

OOOOOOOOOH Charles.......

[stefa]

They thrown so much points

[Hornet]

Sigh :-(
In hindsight, should have just brought home P3

[FerrariF60]

This is how championships are lost!!!!

Exactly

[Greig]

Ok, you wanna to lose the championship Ferrari? You are doing a great job. Contiune like that. Make more mistakes, don't develop your car, drivers... I don't have anything more to say. We are morrons. We've had the best car. Clowns, complete clowns.


Calm down.

[ferrari1.8t]

Lots 15 points, and lost the fastest lap….what a complete joke. Wasted weekend, a weekend to forget for ferrari

[Aziz]

So we are back to our usual self

[KingCharles]

RB are back in the RACE!!

[ferrari1.8t]

Sigh :-(
In hindsight, should have just brought home P3

This.

[stefa]

Why they pitted at all?!??!

[Rishu]

C’mon Charles, think Championship, think long

[drax]

Yep should have been more patient, but guys cool down, it’s not the end of the world, RB had the better setup this weekend, I honestly am only hoping for upgrades for Barcelona.

[KingCharles]

RB are back in the TITLE RACE!!

[totox]

He was overdoing to catch the faster redbull all the weekend. This was a expected result

[458 Italia]

This is why we shouldn't rest on our laurels and rely on launch spec, the car hasn't been there this weekend and why Charles was pushing so hard and making mistakes.

[Kyss4k]

Sigh :-(
In hindsight, should have just brought home P3

Exactly... I don't get their thinking. So they are not bringing the upgrades as they want to play it safe, but then they push and risk it in the race with slower car. What?

[WS6TransAm01]

Ok, you wanna to lose the championship Ferrari? You are doing a great job. Contiune like that. Make more mistakes, don't develop your car, drivers... I don't have anything more to say. We are morrons. We've had the best car. Clowns, complete clowns.

If nothing else Ferrari has proven over the years that they can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Still 19 races to go and he is still in the lead tho no longer by the same margin. We got lucky with multiple RBR DNFs. This is just the pendulum swinging the other way.

Very infuriating none the less.

[Greig]

Lots 15 points, and lost the fastest lap….what a complete joke. Wasted weekend, a weekend to forget for ferrari

He is still 8th so 11 points lost atm

[FerrariF60]

We definitely need to fix that porpoising as Charles is definitely overdriving the car to keep with red bulls

[ferrari1.8t]

Seems Ferrari can never catch luck, even when we have a good car. So upsetting.

[458 Italia]

Why they pitted at all?!??!

I think if he hadn't the car would've become undrivable

[SFTifoso]

RB are back in the TITLE RACE!!

Sucks but we’re still ahead by a lot in the WDC.

[patrese86]

You win championships both drivers and constructors by not making silly decisions, both Charles and Carlos are guilty of it and Mattia needs to have a word with them because you don't need to be on the limit four races in!! It's so pathetic

[Tifoso Svedese]

Kitchen sink at Miami or else we're done. Feels like Singapore and Hockenheim all over again. Bad momentum swinger.

[Kyss4k]

Calm down.

I can't. I am fuming. We are throwing it all away. This is not how a team should be racing if they want to win. I don't want to see us screw it all up, just like we did it so many time before.

[SilverSpeed]

See when Max leads suddenly all drivers are pro and no SC, when CL leads they all crash and Max gets SC gifts...

[Greig]

I can't. I am fuming. We are throwing it all away. This is not how a team should be racing if they want to win. I don't want to see us screw it all up, just like we did it so many time before.

Race 4 dude.....race 4.....

[totox]

We definitely need to fix that porpoising as Charles is definitely overdriving the car to keep with red bulls

This

[ferrari1.8t]

Maybe Russell and Bottas will crash and give us a Saftey car?

[Greig]

Kitchen sink at Miami or else we're done. Feels like Singapore and Hockenheim all over again. Bad momentum swinger.

Are you for real? this forum is embarrassing at times.

[Greig]

P7

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis on his 20th attempt CANNOT pass Gasly..........even with DRS.:roll

[stefa]

He is still 8th so 11 points lost atm

It is early in the season, but at the end when you lost by one point, it matters

[ferrari1.8t]

Lewis on his 20th attempt CANNOT pass Gasly..........even with DRS.:roll

Goat.

[totox]

Are you for real? this forum is embarrassing at times.

The guy has PTSD hahaha. It's embarrassing definitely

[ferrari1.8t]

It is early in the season, but at the end when you lost by one point, it matters

Exactly, It’s a big points swing…

[stefa]

If nothing else Ferrari has proven over the years that they can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Still 19 races to go and he is still in the lead tho no longer by the same margin. We got lucky with multiple RBR DNFs. This is just the pendulum swinging the other way.

Very infuriating none the less.

This... So many times...

[ferrari1.8t]

Maybe P6 in the cards

[JChan]

what a waste from 15 points to 6 points. if CL is patient for P3, its been 45 CL-10 MX we have 35 points lead but now its 20 points lead. what a waste for the 9 points. in nba it's a free throw count even its only 1 pt.

[FerrariF60]

Goat.

Goat??, Russel is showing him how it’s done in the same car

[FerrariF60]

P7


6th

[ferrari1.8t]

Goat??, Russel is showing him how it’s done in the same car

I was being sarcastic! He definitely is no goat and getting out classed.

[JChan]

whewwww what a waste from 3rd to 6th... from 15 pts to 8 pts

[jgonzalesm6]

Bottas would have been 3rd IF it was'nt for his crappy pit stop.

[stefa]

What a slap on the face. I hope this is wake up call!

[jgonzalesm6]

I was being sarcastic! He definitely is no goat and getting out classed.

I knew you were being sarcastic.......

[ferrari1.8t]

I knew you were being sarcastic.......

;-)

[FerrariF60]

UPDATES UPDATES UPDATES......we need those desperately and VERY SOON
If Ferrari wants to have an answer to the RAPID red bull

[nani_s23]

Ferrari sitting with basic car, letting the drivers to push too hard & making mistakes. Not good for me atleast

[Schumiklub]

We definitely need upgrades now, the Bahrain spec car can no longer cut it.

[tifosi1993]

Can't afford to make mistakes like this. Charles needs to calm down. Just cause it's Italy doesn't mean you have to throw out a podium by pushing too hard.

Also can't afford to wait around any more with the launch car. They were the 2nd fastest team today and had no answer to Red Bull.

[nani_s23]

As I said at the start of Bahrain & ferrari knows RB top speed is very powerful. Not able to pass them even with DRS?

[KingCharles]

We needed this to give us a wake up call - I am fuming!!! Cant be bothered for the next 2 weeks. RB are going to beat us I can feel it

[ntukza]

Ahg!

[patrese86]

No we have to listen to everyone celebrating because Sainz gets taken out on turn 1 and Leclerc bins it throwing away a podium

[jgonzalesm6]

UPDATES UPDATES UPDATES......we need those desperately and VERY SOON
If Ferrari wants to have an answer to the RAPID red bull

I have said it 2 races ago, Ferrari's porpoising needs to be fixed. We cannot go like this.

[Greig]

As I said at the start of Bahrain & ferrari knows RB top speed is very powerful. Not able to pass them even with DRS?

Don't think we had any attempt to pass with DRS.

[WS6TransAm01]

One DNF and one embarrassment on home soil.

Come on guys! You can’t expect to have RBR DNF every time.

[FerrariF60]

Can't afford to make mistakes like this. Charles needs to calm down. Just cause it's Italy doesn't mean you have throw out a podium by pushing too hard.

Also can't afford to wait around any more with the launch car. They were the 2nd fastest team today and had no answer to Red Bull.

Exactly very well said and put into words

[Greig]

We needed this to give us a wake up call - I am fuming!!! Cant be bothered for the next 2 weeks. RB are going to beat us I can feel it

LOL

[SFTifoso]

Are you for real? this forum is embarrassing at times.

I hate to see my team come 7th and DNF. Live and fight on. PU2 in Miami, let’s go!

[tifosi1993]

Charles 84 + Carlos 38 = 122

Max 59 + Perez 54 = 113

[WS6TransAm01]

Don't think we had any attempt to pass with DRS.

I think CL had one go at it against Perez after he cleared Lando but he was about .8s behind at the start of the straight and didn’t even come close to Perez.

[Alonsomaniac]

Keep calm, put updates on the car and win the next one.

[nani_s23]

Please don’t let elkan to enter Ferrari garage. Whenever he’s there it’s always worse. Don’t know whether it’s a curse or something. Let him come at last GP when ferrari sealed title.

[Aziz]

We needed this to give us a wake up call - I am fuming!!! Cant be bothered for the next 2 weeks. RB are going to beat us I can feel it

This is Ferrari, not the one from last race, but this one

[Greig]

Keep calm, put updates on the car and win the next one.

Indeed we have our upgrades to come and we are still in a strong place.

[nani_s23]

Don't think we had any attempt to pass with DRS.

There was one moment with Soft tyre before Charles making mistake.
Perez was warming up his tyres & was within .8ths

[FerrariF60]

Charles 84 + Carlos 38 = 122

Max 59 + Perez 54 = 113

Yup we’re already losing lots of points in WCC even with red bulls 2 dnfs
But I guess Carlos’s 2 dnff don’t help either

[drax]

Guys calm down, there is a budget cap, we should bring updates if we can check if they work. Honestly I just think Red Bull got the better setup this weekend.
We cannot be either the best on one weekend and on the next week we are the worst. It was a bad race, we had 3 others that where amazing.

Completely schizophrenic

[nani_s23]

Keep calm, put updates on the car and win the next one.

We need 1-2 finishes. Not just one car.

[jgonzalesm6]

The Italian media are going to have a field day with the Scuderia tomorrow moring.

[FerrariF60]

Indeed we have our upgrades to come and we are still in a strong place.


The MILLION $ question is, will they work??. I have terrible nightmares from past seasons

[da_one]

The only consolation I have in this race is watching LH struggling to overtake the RB B team for half the race distance :rotfl

[faloupas]

Red Bull already clearly infront of us.
We are back in our usual goofy form...driver errors,slow pitstops etc..
I know it is just race No4...but by the time Ferrari will bring updates we will be on the same level with Mclaren and Mercedes.
And come now ban everyone who says the same.
It seems that we are all trolls now...

[Greig]

Red Bull already clearly infront of us.
We are back in our usual goofy form...driver errors,slow pitstops etc..
I know it is just race No4...but by the time Ferrari will bring updates we will be on the same level with Mclaren and Mercedes.
And come now ban everyone who says the same.
It seems that we are all trolls now...

Thought you never wanted to post on here again?

Troll.

[FerrariF60]

Guys calm down, there is a budget cap, we should bring updates if we can check if they work. Honestly I just think Red Bull got the better setup this weekend.
We cannot be either the best on one weekend and on the next week we are the worst. It was a bad race, we had 3 others that where amazing.

Completely schizophrenic

They red bull said they had the wrong set up in OZ...so maybe with the right set up in OZ they could have been on par wit us or better there as well

[nani_s23]

1. Lec in P3, track drying up. Ferrari should have brought Lec in earlier.
2. 1sec slow stop

[nani_s23]

1. Lec in P3, track drying up. Ferrari should have brought Lec in earlier.
2. 1sec slow stop

[faloupas]

Thought you never wanted to post on here again?

Troll.
No comments....
Try to win the championship with the launch car.

[Greig]

No comments....
Try to win the championship with the launch car.

Already upgrades coming at Miami, troll.

[da_one]

Red Bull already clearly infront of us.
We are back in our usual goofy form...driver errors,slow pitstops etc..
I know it is just race No4...but by the time Ferrari will bring updates we will be on the same level with Mclaren and Mercedes.
And come now ban everyone who says the same.
It seems that we are all trolls now...

Too early to say RB is "clearly" in front of us. The weather probably helped them with tire wear. Having said that, CL should have settled for 3rd.

[drax]

They red bull said they had the wrong set up in OZ...so maybe with the right set up in OZ they could have been on par wit us or better there as well

Or maybe we didn’t have the right setup this weekend, and the car was eating up the tires and this flattered RB, the difference is minimal between the two cars, its going to be on a race by race basis I think

[faloupas]

Already upgrades coming at Miami, troll.

We ll see if it is going to be upgrades or downgrades as usual.

[nani_s23]

Imola track was expected to suit Ferrari & we lost.

Expecting a strong comeback by our team next race.

RB engine is powerful. They are bringing next set of upgrades for Miami GP to reduce their car weight even further.

[Greig]

We ll see if it is going to be upgrades or downgrades as usual.

Troll.

[faloupas]

Troll.

Haha.Ok we will see.

[stefa]

Wonder who is tracking how much money is spent and how much is left?

[Greig]

Haha.Ok we will see.

Will you make 5 more accounts to troll?

[burak karaküdük]

We need to stay calm and focus our next races. Team must stay together especially with drivers. So many mistakes and unlucky moments. we need to learn from our mistakes. I think 3rd place was a good result and Charles should have been patient. Anyway we still lead the championship.

[ntukza]

Well that was disappointing.

[Hornet]

A rather disappointing race for us.
Looking back at the replay, Charles was very lucky the car could still carry on for some damage limitation.

Hope both drivers come back strongly next race.

[patrese86]

Charles has a habit of taking too much curb in chicanes. Has paid for it now on more than once occasion. He has to start learning now before it's too late. We have a championship winning car and are still competitive despite a lack of upgrades but you can't be so shortsighted like he was today.

[tifosi1993]

Luck also played a role today. Perez made two mistakes but saved by no DRS.

Charles was trying too to get the DRS and misjudged, it happens.

According to Carlos, the car in wind tunnel is quite a bit better than the current car. Which is to be expected since Ferrari haven't brought any major upgrades.

Hopefully the PU2 and the new aero parts will give us a big jump in performance.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Hopefully we'll dominate Miami with a new floor and a new PU for Charles at the back and make this the one blip. Having said that, after fourteen years of endless disasters I'm pessimistic until I see it.

[ntukza]

We need to regroup and refocus to make sure we don't let a good start go to waste. It's too early to panic but the team must take some hard lessons from this weekend to make sure we get stronger from here.

A real pity about Charles. He also needs to learn from this and hopefully not make similar mistakes later on when it counts the most.

Carlos needs to get his act together.

[nani_s23]

Luck also played a role today. Perez made two mistakes but saved by because of no DRS.

Charles was trying too to get the DRS and misjudged, it happens.

According to Carlos, the car in wind tunnel is quite a bit better than the current car. Which is to be expected since Ferrari haven't brought any major upgrades.

Hopefully the PU2 and the new aero parts will give us a big jump in performance.

MB need to regroup including drivers & have a plan to counter.

I see RB brining upgrades almost every race so far. Not sure where is cost cap? Even next race they are brining something.

[Riccardog]

The only positive out of this race was.... Russell 4th, where was the supposed goat , �� baaaad day....

[Honzus]

Very bad performance from the whole team. Let's go next race.

[drax]

MB need to regroup including drivers & have a plan to counter.

I see RB brining upgrades almost every race so far. Not sure where is cost cap? Even next race they are brining something.

How can Red Bull bring updates every race without breaking the cost max budget ?

[Ferrarichamp]

I don't understand Charles' thinking. Clearly RB were faster on this track, so just settle for a solid P3.

[patrese86]

Luck also played a role today. Perez made two mistakes but saved by no DRS.

Charles was trying too to get the DRS and misjudged, it happens.

According to Carlos, the car in wind tunnel is quite a bit better than the current car. Which is to be expected since Ferrari haven't brought any major upgrades.

Hopefully the PU2 and the new aero parts will give us a big jump in performance.

Yeah luck plays a role but in general RB was just a touch faster today and that happens and will happen from race to race over the course of a season. I just think Charles can be too aggressive with kerbs sometimes and when you are doing that in chicanes...well I just have flashbacks of Monaco, Baku castle section and now today.

[Aziz]

MB need to regroup including drivers & have a plan to counter.

I see RB brining upgrades almost every race so far. Not sure where is cost cap? Even next race they are brining something.

That's the problem, we bring nothing... They will be faster in Miami as well

[Nick Singer]

What a ****sh0w! SAI, well, you make your own luck and LEC, Threw away a nailed on third place.

[Nick Singer]

The only positive out of this race was.... Russell 4th, where was the supposed goat , �� baaaad day....

Sorry but who the **** gives a monkey's about Mercedes? They're not going to win anything this year - and neither will we if we keep making schoolboy errors!

Third place in the bag, albeit behind a very average Perez, yet we bin it! Absolutely #fewmin!

[nani_s23]

I was expecting a good weekend for us, where I can concentrate on my work for next week. But this result disturbed me a lot :-(

Not sure how’s my work going to be next week.

[nani_s23]

I was expecting a good weekend for us, where I can concentrate on my work for next week. But this result disturbed me a lot :-(

Not sure how’s my work going to be next week.

[Nick Singer]

Luck also played a role today. Perez made two mistakes but saved by no DRS.

Charles was trying too to get the DRS and misjudged, it happens.

According to Carlos, the car in wind tunnel is quite a bit better than the current car. Which is to be expected since Ferrari haven't brought any major upgrades.

Hopefully the PU2 and the new aero parts will give us a big jump in performance.

Well, the officials handed last year's WDC to Max, looks like they're trying to let him have another one..

DRS enabled at the right time would have allowed LEC to challenge PER.

[Nick Singer]

I don't understand Charles' thinking. Clearly RB were faster on this track, so just settle for a solid P3.

You'd think so..

[Aziz]

I don't understand Charles' thinking. Clearly RB were faster on this track, so just settle for a solid P3.

They were faster on a track that suit our car

[nani_s23]

How can Red Bull bring updates every race without breaking the cost max budget ?

That’s my question too..!! Their first major upgrade was Bahrain next Australia & now this one.

Also I’m worried about RB powerful engine.

[drax]

We should fire everyone !!! Drivers, Team everyone, fire everyone !!!!

Amazing how this works it’s like clockwork, you guys should have lived through Formula 1 in the 80s or 90s like I did.

Calm down we had a bad race it happens, even in the early 2000s we had bad races. Ferrari is leading both championships, has done 0 upgrades.

Contrary to what you believe with a budget limit not having done upgrades yet means we can bring more than other teams in the future

[bonzo]

I don't understand Charles' thinking. Clearly RB were faster on this track, so just settle for a solid P3.

Noone can do to you what you could do alone to yourself.

[WS6TransAm01]

I don't understand Charles' thinking. Clearly RB were faster on this track, so just settle for a solid P3.

If you’re not first, you’re last.

[Nick Singer]

We should fire everyone !!! Drivers, Team everyone, fire everyone !!!!

Amazing how this works it’s like clockwork, you guys should have lived through Formula 1 in the 80s or 90s like I did.

Calm down we had a bad race it happens, even in the early 2000s we had bad races. Ferrari is leading both championships, has done 0 upgrades.

Contrary to what you believe with a budget limit not having done upgrades yet means we can bring more than other teams in the future

Schoolboy errors!

[Tifoso Svedese]

They were faster on a track that suit our car

The cold weather suited their car. Meant they didn't overheat their rears which they otherwise have done.

[TTRSMAD]

The need to bring a solution to the floor so they can stop the porpoising, lower the car and unload the rear wing so they can use their car top speed at a maximum potential.

[Aziz]

The need to bring a solution to the floor so they can stop the porpoising, lower the car and unload the rear wing so they can use their car top speed at a maximum potential.

Yes but we will not solve this problem in the near future

[SilverSpeed]

I hope next race Ferrari brings their wind tunnel to the race, as Sainz said there's a better car inside. :rotfl

[Nero Horse]

Flashbacks from Singapore 2017 and Germany 2018. Just 4 races into the season and already it's falling apart. I hate to say it but both Ferrari drivers are too error prone. I thought Charles had grown out of making such silly mistakes but apparently not. Mistakes like that can be extremely costly at the end of the season. Why can't Ferrari have just ONE season without any unnecessary drama? We finally have a really fast championship contender car and still we find new ways to make it more difficult for ourselves than it has to be. Hopefully Ferrari can bounce back in Miami with another strong performance.

[Ferrarichamp]

I hope Miami is a dry race.

[WS6TransAm01]

I hope Miami is a dry race.

Dry or not it will be 783% humidity.

[Ferrarichamp]

Dry or not it will be 783% humidity.

are you going there?

[SilverSpeed]

The cold weather suited their car. Meant they didn't overheat their rears which they otherwise have done.

This!

[Greig]

They were faster on a track that suit our car

Why did it suit our car and not Red Bull?

[Greig]

Flashbacks from Singapore 2017 and Germany 2018. Just 4 races into the season and already it's falling apart. I hate to say it but both Ferrari drivers are too error prone. I thought Charles had grown out of making such silly mistakes but apparently not. Mistakes like that can be extremely costly at the end of the season. Why can't Ferrari have just ONE season without any unnecessary drama? We finally have a really fast championship contender car and still we find new ways to make it more difficult for ourselves than it has to be. Hopefully Ferrari can bounce back in Miami with another strong performance.

Nah it's already over....

[Greig]

Yes but we will not solve this problem in the near future

Ah so you know better than our drivers, brilliant post.

[Tifoso]

Nah it's already over....
Yup. :-P

[Red is Best]

I think we shouldn't panick just yet. This result is a mixture of the weird format (no changes allowed after FP1), colder conditions, bad luck (Ricciardo FFS) and Vestappen being a much more mature driver than Leclerc. Even with all that we weren't that far off the pace. Leclerc lost a lot of time behind Noris and Perez. Had he maintained P2 at the start I think he would have finished behind Verstappen.

[KingCharles]

The team is a bloody joke! If they are going to chase the fastest lap -do it with 2 laps to go that way Perez or Max cant cover you. There was no point fighting for 2nd place too.

[TTRSMAD]

Nah it's already over....

Calm down, the season is long from being over and chances are that reliability is going to be on our side and the car is pretty much the same one from pre season.

I have confidence that Leclerc is going to learn from this.

[Greig]

Calm down, the season is long from being over and chances are that reliability is going to be on our side and the car is pretty much the same one from pre season.

I have confidence that Leclerc is going to learn from this.

Read the posts, it's over already give it up.

[Greig]

The team is a bloody joke! If they are going to chase the fastest lap -do it with 2 laps to go that way Perez or Max cant cover you. There was no point fighting for 2nd place too.

Do tell us why there was no point fighting for 2nd place? Only joke is so called fans on here.

[TTRSMAD]

Read the posts, it's over already give it up.

OUPS:lol

[TTRSMAD]

OUPS:lol

It's definitely over.

[nani_s23]

Binotto told Sky Italy that they will bring something to Miami but a more significant upgrade package will arrive in Barcelona!

[stefa]

We should fire everyone !!! Drivers, Team everyone, fire everyone !!!!

Amazing how this works it’s like clockwork, you guys should have lived through Formula 1 in the 80s or 90s like I did.

Calm down we had a bad race it happens, even in the early 2000s we had bad races. Ferrari is leading both championships, has done 0 upgrades.

Contrary to what you believe with a budget limit not having done upgrades yet means we can bring more than other teams in the future

Agree. 80 and 90 ware so painfull!

[ferrari4life]

I think we shouldn't panick just yet. This result is a mixture of the weird format (no changes allowed after FP1), colder conditions, bad luck (Ricciardo FFS) and Vestappen being a much more mature driver than Leclerc. Even with all that we weren't that far off the pace. Leclerc lost a lot of time behind Noris and Perez. Had he maintained P2 at the start I think he would have finished behind Verstappen.

Had he maintained p2 at the start I am sure they would have enabled DRS much sooner. Lol

[KingCharles]

Do tell us why there was no point fighting for 2nd place? Only joke is so called fans on here.

Because should he have gone for the fastest lap instead of fighting for 2nd place an extra 2 points. its called Risk reward duh! Risk a DNF to gain 2 points - yeah that makes a lot of sense - look how it turned out

[SFTifoso]

It was encouraging to see Charles hounding Perez, on equal tires, before the mistake. Tells me the pace is still there.This race was a case of what can go wrong DID. Also our car doesn’t like cold/wet conditions. Thank god it’s 80 degrees and sunny in Miami. We get RB back!

[Greig]

Because should he have gone for the fastest lap instead of fighting for 2nd place an extra 2 points. its called Risk reward duh! Risk a DNF to gain 2 points - yeah that makes a lot of sense - look how it turned out

So he could drive slower to get FL??? oh yeah that makes real sense....next race we should not risk fighting for the win either....

[ferrari4life]

Do tell us why there was no point fighting for 2nd place? Only joke is so called fans on here.

Ferrari is never able to win with these fans. They play it safe with upgrades and they are terrible. They give CL the chance to get a few more points with 2nd and fast lap and it's thier fault cause they introduced the risk and caused CL to throw it away with a mistake.

[ferrari4life]

It was encouraging to see Charles hounding Perez, on equal tires, before the mistake. Tells me the pace is still there.This race was a case of what can go wrong DID. Also our car doesn’t like cold/wet conditions. Thank god it’s 80 degrees and sunny in Miami. We get RB back!

Was heat our advantage in AUS?

[The Architect]

Race was a disaster. I hope that's the low point for the season and the team can address the shortcomings. Hopefully Charles will come out of this wiser too.

[KingCharles]

So he could drive slower to get FL??? oh yeah that makes real sense....next race we should not risk fighting for the win either....

He pitted for softs with 11 laps to go. Why do that when he could have pitted with 1 lap to go? They want 11 laps because they estimated they will be 2 secs a lap faster than Perez and Max. However, the gap to Perez was 3 seconds and enough to cover Leclerc. It was a wasted effort. Should have just pitted for the fastest lap with 1 lap to go.

I am fuming - wasted race and don't get me started on Sainz!! *** is wrong with this team? You dont see RB or Merc throw-away races like this when they are fighting at the top. RB are favorites imo. Too smart and their drivers more composed in a battle.

[zag]

Wow, usually I only read this forum for some insightful comments and hopefully positive thinking for Scuderia Ferrari, but I'm really irritated by such attitude and have to say something: anybody who is dissing the team after this misfortune of a race should just please start rooting for energy drink company or whoever else, because Ferrari doesn't need such fans. You are only seeking instant gratification and can't stand the fact that people do make mistakes. Sainz had bad luck with Ricciardo slipping from inner curb into his back tyre and that was it.

As for the rest of the race, Red Bull had the advantage due to colder temperatures and simply got the set up better it seems. It doesn't feel nice, but acting like some of you do, throwing your toys around like this is just childish. The only morons are you, the team had a great start and are bringing updates to the next race, but the way you act, you don't deserve to live another Ferrari victory or success ever.

Charles made a mistake because he sensed he could claim second position back and maybe even put some pressure on Max for the last laps on softs, but it didn't work out, because he was too eager.

It's sad to see how the attitude of you, supposed die hard Ferrari fans has changed after this bad race. If Enzo could, he would slap you all in the face, believe me.

This year is the first after many that we don't have disadvantage due to rigged tech rules and such (Merc engine advantage) and we are fighting at the front, but you start crying after first obstacle and insult team members like they owe you something? The only owe something to Ferrari name and heritage and Mattia seems to be calm and bright enough to steer this in the right direction.

Some of you really should grow up a bit. Have a nice Sunday afternoon, go outside, breathe a little and channel positive vibes only towards Maranello, because this is only the beginning.

[Red is Best]

Had he maintained p2 at the start I am sure they would have enabled DRS much sooner. Lol

Yeah I didn't get that. Leclerc complained about it during the race: https://www.youtube.com/c/F1UNFILTERED/videos

[SFTifoso]

Wow, usually I only read this forum for some insightful comments and hopefully positive thinking for Scuderia Ferrari, but I'm really irritated by such attitude and have to say something: anybody who is dissing the team after this misfortune of a race should just please start rooting for energy drink company or whoever else, because Ferrari doesn't need such fans. You are only seeking instant gratification and can't stand the fact that people do make mistakes. Sainz had bad luck with Ricciardo slipping from inner curb into his back tyre and that was it.

As for the rest of the race, Red Bull had the advantage due to colder temperatures and simply got the set up better it seems. It doesn't feel nice, but acting like some of you do, throwing your toys around like this is just childish. The only morons are you, the team had a great start and are bringing updates to the next race, but the way you act, you don't deserve to live another Ferrari victory or success ever.

Charles made a mistake because he sensed he could claim second position back and maybe even put some pressure on Max for the last laps on softs, but it didn't work out, because he was too eager.

It's sad to see how the attitude of you, supposed die hard Ferrari fans has changed after this bad race. If Enzo could, he would slap you all in the face, believe me.

This year is the first after many that we don't have disadvantage due to rigged tech rules and such (Merc engine advantage) and we are fighting at the front, but you start crying after first obstacle and insult team members like they owe you something? The only owe something to Ferrari name and heritage and Mattia seems to be calm and bright enough to steer this in the right direction.

Some of you really should grow up a bit. Have a nice Sunday afternoon, go outside, breathe a little and channel positive vibes only towards Maranello, because this is only the beginning.

:ferrarifl

Enzo would slap a lot of people here! It was unfortunate, but it was encouraging to see Charles lapping faster than Perez on equal tires. Cant wait for Miami.

[wisepie]

Too much hype for a Ferrari win on home soil was always going to be tempting fate, changing weather conditions, Carlos out on lap 1 and poor starts from both drivers. So RB were quicker and handled their tyres better, Charles admits his error for the spin and knows he overdid it, it could have been worse a been a double DNF. Sounds like his tyres may not even have enabled him to keep P3, so the stop for softs was necessary as well as giving him a chance to reclaim P2. Upset happens and it did for Ferrari today, maybe hot temps in Miami will suit us better, but this is a wake-up call for some upgrades before we fall back.:roll

[KingCharles]

Marko praised RB upgrades and said they have improved the car and will keep adding more upgrades. And people still spouting the rubbish about us not needing to rush and bring upgrades. Keep waiting until RB is 1 second a lap faster than us :roll

[Aziz]

There is no flexibility in this team, they decided to bring updates in Barcelona and they will do that no matter what happens

[alfa84]

This was like a slamp in the face. We need to learn to accept the 2 or third place. A suppose this is a learning process. Good faith for our team

[Redfive]

I'm still shocked by the race. Carlos taken out was bad enough and then Charles lost it.. gutted. Just gutted,
the only highlight of the race for me was seeing goldenboy down in 14th but still. Ferrari, ..lost so many points today. damn

[scudieros]

This was a disappointing race for us, everything that could go wrong pretty much did. I don't think we should berate the team for trying, but we need to think of the long game . It was obvious at the start that this was not our race so 3rd place finish would have been pretty decent even without the fastest lap. We have done very well with a launch spec car, and I for one have a lot of trust in the people who created this car to create upgrades that will work. ICE 2 and New hybrid system for Charles and other upgrades might be what we need to get the edge back, that and the hot weather. We are still in front but we shouldn't throw away points like this. Carlos for once was unlucky as this wasn't his fault at all but the result is the same, no points.

We'll be back stronger.
Forza Ferrari Sempre :ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[Greig]

He pitted for softs with 11 laps to go. Why do that when he could have pitted with 1 lap to go? They want 11 laps because they estimated they will be 2 secs a lap faster than Perez and Max. However, the gap to Perez was 3 seconds and enough to cover Leclerc. It was a wasted effort. Should have just pitted for the fastest lap with 1 lap to go.

I am fuming - wasted race and don't get me started on Sainz!! *** is wrong with this team? You dont see RB or Merc throw-away races like this when they are fighting at the top. RB are favorites imo. Too smart and their drivers more composed in a battle.

Maybe they pitted because the tyres were gone? Charles said on the radio they should have went with medium....

Perez made more mistakes than Charles today....he got away with it but according to you their drivers are more composed in battle?

[nani_s23]

Miami high speed circuit - expecting tough race for us against RB.
Perez is vulnerable at least we should get him.

[Greig]

There is no flexibility in this team, they decided to bring updates in Barcelona and they will do that no matter what happens

You clearly have no understanding, we will bring something to Miami, you realise with the budget cap then upgrades will be a bit more thoughtful and planned? Why are you in a blind panic of fear after 1 race with conditions that did not benefit us? Grow a set.

[Greig]

Marko praised RB upgrades and said they have improved the car and will keep adding more upgrades. And people still spouting the rubbish about us not needing to rush and bring upgrades. Keep waiting until RB is 1 second a lap faster than us :roll

Are you Marko's fanboy?

[PURE PASSION]

Marko praised RB upgrades and said they have improved the car and will keep adding more upgrades. And people still spouting the rubbish about us not needing to rush and bring upgrades. Keep waiting until RB is 1 second a lap faster than us :roll
So dont come here rooting for the team ,when we win again. Go and root for RB since for you they are better team

[djmorin27]

Does any one know what the small update that redbull brought to this race that seemed to make a difference

[SS454]

Does any one know what the small update that redbull brought to this race that seemed to make a difference

Aside from the larger rear wing. They brought a new double decker T tray and a weight reduction.

[paolo lalli]

Red bull to good today,simple as that there car has passed Ferrari now,so Ferrari need to strike back and upgrade the car,our drivers need to learn not to be so impulsive sometimes they drive as if there is a target on there back.Max has matured and that's why he is the top dog.No doubt Ferrari will rebound but with this sport all must come together,other wise with in a hand full of races Ferrari will be trailing red bull ,moving foward the heat is now on maranello to come out firing no holding back at the next race,definitely the momentum has shifted to red bull.As for Carlos contract or not he will be shown the door if this current form continues. Here is a thought driver swap now hamilton to Ferrari Carlos to mercedes ,the slower car may help his confidence and build race craft,as I always say expect the unexpected as was the case.

[Nero Horse]

Nah it's already over....

Obviously it's not over, but this could be a significant momentum swing. RB will be rubbing their hands together in glee seeing how both Ferrari drivers are susceptible to making costly mistakes under pressure. I was hoping we'd seen enough of driver errors after Seb left but I guess not.

[stefa]

Obviously it's not over, but this could be a significant momentum swing. RB will be rubbing their hands together in glee seeing how both Ferrari drivers are susceptible to making costly mistakes under pressure. I was hoping we'd seen enough of driver errors after Seb left but I guess not.

Even they are F1 drivers, they are after all human beings. We all make mistakes. It's good when we learn from them and come back stronger. I hope CL and CS will do just that.

[Nero Horse]

Even they are F1 drivers, they are after all human beings. We all make mistakes. It's good when we learn from them and come back stronger. I hope CL and CS will do just that.

Yes, I completely agree with the sentiment, but the sad fact is that in F1 you just can't make such mistakes when you're in a title fight. Charles was lucky to come away with 6th place, it could've been much worse if he would've hit that barrier harder. Both drivers need to be a lot more careful from now on.

[nessuno]

Salve!!!
Sono veramente deluso di Charles… non si può fare un errore del genere e portare la Ferrari a questi livelli, poi a Imolaaaaaaa!!!!! INPERDONABILE!!! VERGOGNA!!!!

[faloupas]

Will you make 5 more accounts to troll?

Not at all as i am allowed to say what i believe.
Team performed amazingly in Australia.That was a performance that i dream for the team.A performance of a championship team.
Today it was a tough day.In my opinion Red Bull upgrades worked well and made them the fastest team right now. If Ferrari bring updates that work well then i ll be happy,if not then it will be a 2017-2018 repeat.
Im not optimistic,many of Ferrari fans feel the same with me.
Lets stop that "troll" thing now.

[tifosi1993]

Marko praised RB upgrades and said they have improved the car and will keep adding more upgrades. And people still spouting the rubbish about us not needing to rush and bring upgrades. Keep waiting until RB is 1 second a lap faster than us :roll

There is no "us" here, its only you.

In case you haven't noticed, Ferrari is still the leader. And rather than going at it Ferrari every time with your nonsense bashing, leave some criticism for your favorite driver as well. After all, he lost an easy podium because of his own mistake.

But you wouldn't find any one here bashing Charles. Because it is an utterly pointless thing to do. So may be you driver fans should learn some humility and stop bashing Ferrari every goddamn time.

[nani_s23]

There is no "us" here, its only you.

In case you haven't noticed, Ferrari is still the leader. And rather than going at it Ferrari every time with your nonsense bashing, leave some criticism for your favorite driver as well. After all, he lost an easy podium because of his own mistake.

But you wouldn't find any one here bashing Charles. Because it is an utterly pointless thing to do. So may be you driver fans should learn some humility and stop bashing Ferrari every goddamn time.

+1 :clap

[Aziz]

You clearly have no understanding, we will bring something to Miami, you realise with the budget cap then upgrades will be a bit more thoughtful and planned? Why are you in a blind panic of fear after 1 race with conditions that did not benefit us? Grow a set.

You do realize that under the same budget cap RB has bought upgrades to every race

[Super M]

Red bull to good today,simple as that there car has passed Ferrari now,so Ferrari need to strike back and upgrade the car,our drivers need to learn not to be so impulsive sometimes they drive as if there is a target on there back.Max has matured and that's why he is the top dog.No doubt Ferrari will rebound but with this sport all must come together,other wise with in a hand full of races Ferrari will be trailing red bull ,moving foward the heat is now on maranello to come out firing no holding back at the next race,definitely the momentum has shifted to red bull.As for Carlos contract or not he will be shown the door if this current form continues. Here is a thought driver swap now hamilton to Ferrari Carlos to mercedes ,the slower car may help his confidence and build race craft,as I always say expect the unexpected as was the case.

Champ, I think you've gone over the edge here. No way was it Sainz's fault one bit. He just had bad luck. Soon that too will change and perhaps Red bull will have some of these Incidents ? There were a lot of people on here prior to the season starting saying that we had the wrong car, Yet we have won 2 out of the 4, That's pretty impressive.

So We have a bit of a bad day at the office, and all the trolls come out and have a dig at Ferrari. Yes Leclerc admitted to his error, so what, he's a bloody racing driver. Had he not tried to attack Perez, most of the people would be asking why he didn't even try, Get what i'm saying ??

I believe in this team and they know how to remedy this. Actually, the negativity on here is ridiculous. Some on here don't deserve to be called Ferrari supporters, but more, Ferrari bashers! :furious

Have a great day :wave

Ferrari know to well what to do next, i'm confident of this and should a lot of others on here too!

[nani_s23]

#AMus: Red Bull reduced its weight handicap & also found a bit of downforce with the new upgrade.

Binotto about Miami: "We will work to prevent the bouncing & adapt our aero package for this track, which requires less downforce. The bigger upgrade will follow a little later."

[stefa]

Again I think important question. Who and how its monitoring how much money is spent on upgardes and how much is left?

[Super M]

Again I think important question. Who and how its monitoring how much money is spent on upgardes and how much is left?


Agreed. Hence why Binotto asked the FIA to keep an eye out for this, think it was before the Saudi Arabian GP.

Let see if they do anything about it.

[Greig]

You do realize that under the same budget cap RB has bought upgrades to every race

And you will understand that it's a long season, continued development that brings results to the track throughout the season will be better than running out of budget with 5 races to go.....

[stefa]

Agreed. Hence why Binotto asked the FIA to keep an eye out for this, think it was before the Saudi Arabian GP.

Let see if they do anything about it.

To me it is strange that budget cap is introduced, but we don't really know how to monitoring mechanism works?!

[Gerhard Berger]

To me it is strange that budget cap is introduced, but we don't really know how to monitoring mechanism works?!

Agreed. It should be completely transparent. The same as PU and gearbox usage.

[Gerhard Berger]

Any news on why the starts were so tardy yesterday?

[Retroblue]

one bad race and just look at the comments here, seems like some have already given up. We have a good car and I trust the engineers that have produced a good base car. If our upgrades are good at Barcelona we can turn things around. I will take a 3rd place finish for Charles at Miami, considering RedBull will be faster than us. Still Charles will be leading the championship by 16-17 points. We have 19 races to go still. I will only be disappointed if the upgrades dont work as expected at Barcelona.

[Brembo]

Salve!!!
Sono veramente deluso di Charles… non si può fare un errore del genere e portare la Ferrari a questi livelli, poi a Imolaaaaaaa!!!!! INPERDONABILE!!! VERGOGNA!!!!

Calmo!! F-1 e' tutto sui chi viene pagato! Specialmente Luis..

[Ferrarichamp]

one bad race and just look at the comments here, seems like some have already given up. We have a good car and I trust the engineers that have produced a good base car. If our upgrades are good at Barcelona we can turn things around. I will take a 3rd place finish for Charles at Miami, considering RedBull will be faster than us. Still Charles will be leading the championship by 16-17 points. We have 19 races to go still. I will only be disappointed if the upgrades dont work as expected at Barcelona.

so you're sure RB will win the next race, and yet you're saying people here are negative? :Hmm

[Retroblue]

so you're sure RB will win the next race, and yet you're saying people here are negative? :Hmm

I am just telling that even if Charles finish 3rd in Miami, there is nothing to be worried about.

[Toothlessrage*]

Between Sainz and Leclerc..

I hope Sainz gets his redemption and finally overcomes his current deficit because I feel he's trying too hard to catch up to Leclerc.

Leclerc should've played the long game though, understanding that each point counts.
As for his mistake, his hunger(?) gets the better of him at times. He's extremely lucky to come out with any points at all.

To conclude, I don't think we are on the back foot (even with the large points deficit).
I have absolute faith Ferrari can bounce back because Ferrari has heavily invested in this "come-back project".

But, I just hope this isn't the start where we start to falter.
Leclerc, Sainz, and Ferrari can't too many weekends like this one.

[ferrari1.8t]

#AMus: Red Bull reduced its weight handicap & also found a bit of downforce with the new upgrade.

Binotto about Miami: "We will work to prevent the bouncing & adapt our aero package for this track, which requires less downforce. The bigger upgrade will follow a little later."

When did this change? I thought the big updates were coming for Miami? They were supposedly ready for Imola, but not introduced because of the lack of FP time. Now they are not ready for Miami either?

[springfield]

They always said Imola and Barcelona, but then decided only for Barcelona. Miami was never mentioned for upgrades.

[nani_s23]

Charles in Maranello today, working in the simulator.

[nani_s23]

They always said Imola and Barcelona, but then decided only for Barcelona. Miami was never mentioned for upgrades.

Yup

[ferrari1.8t]

They always said Imola and Barcelona, but then decided only for Barcelona. Miami was never mentioned for upgrades.

My mistake then. Thanks for the info…

[PURE PASSION]

Charles is in Maranello today, working in the simulator ��
Ferrari should bring a new rear wing to Miami to increase aerodynamic efficiency and reduce drag for the F1-75!
A new floor is also in production to eliminate bouncing on the straights.
(Corriere)

[Ferrarichamp]

You clearly have no understanding, we will bring something to Miami, you realise with the budget cap then upgrades will be a bit more thoughtful and planned? Why are you in a blind panic of fear after 1 race with conditions that did not benefit us? Grow a set.


They always said Imola and Barcelona, but then decided only for Barcelona. Miami was never mentioned for upgrades.

so which is it?

[tifosi1993]

so which is it?

Miami: PU2 + New energy harvesting components, could be the new floor as well. Binotto specially stated that they will try to solve the porpoising in Miami. A new low drag RW as well.

Spain: First major upgrade which will also change the shape of the car. Binotto dubbed it as "significant".

[Super M]

To me it is strange that budget cap is introduced, but we don't really know how to monitoring mechanism works?!

Found this.........I don't know what to make if it. Then again, if this is the case, then Ferrari must also over spend ??

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/brawn-solution-coming-for-f1-budget-cap-inflation-squeeze/10201850/?fbclid=IwAR1RQFsZwvBCWUrM9YBwWuZr8j3toh_9b9OTeRSX VU6J0QQD-uEJl8SPafM

[Aziz]

Miami: PU2 + New energy harvesting components, could be the new floor as well. Binotto specially stated that they will try to solve the porpoising in Miami. A new low drag RW as well.

Spain: First major upgrade which will also change the shape of the car. Binotto dubbed it as "significant".

Good news if true

[KingCharles]

So dont come here rooting for the team ,when we win again. Go and root for RB since for you they are better team

I am just saying how it is.


Pit strategy is still poor

RB is bringing regular updates while we watch them close the gap

RB drivers are doing a better job - has Sainz even challenged a single RB in a race despite having the best car?


If not for DNF's RB will be leading.

We have had all the time in the world to work on the car while RB had to fight a very tough championship last year, and if not for the DNF's they will be leading both championships. I

[KingCharles]

There is no "us" here, its only you.

In case you haven't noticed, Ferrari is still the leader. And rather than going at it Ferrari every time with your nonsense bashing, leave some criticism for your favorite driver as well. After all, he lost an easy podium because of his own mistake.

But you wouldn't find any one here bashing Charles. Because it is an utterly pointless thing to do. So may be you driver fans should learn some humility and stop bashing Ferrari every goddamn time.


Ummm if the team had not pitted him - this mess would not had happened. They forced his hand and pushed him to gamble his race for a miserly extra 2 points when they could had just pitted him for fastest lap at the last lap. I hope it was worth it :roll

[nani_s23]

Miami: PU2 + New energy harvesting components, could be the new floor as well. Binotto specially stated that they will try to solve the porpoising in Miami. A new low drag RW as well.

Spain: First major upgrade which will also change the shape of the car. Binotto dubbed it as "significant".

#Corriere reports that Ferrari will introduce a new rear wing in Miami.

The aim is to gain aerodynamic efficiency and reduce drag in order to compete with Red Bull's peak speeds. Other corrections will be made to the floor area to limit the porpoising.

Binotto: Because the porpoising is where we lose something in performance and we have to keep working on it."

[Super M]

I am just saying how it is.


Pit strategy is still poor

RB is bringing regular updates while we watch them close the gap

RB drivers are doing a better job - has Sainz even challenged a single RB in a race despite having the best car?


If not for DNF's RB will be leading.

We have had all the time in the world to work on the car while RB had to fight a very tough championship last year, and if not for the DNF's they will be leading both championships. I

Jeez man, Then don't comment if you don't have anything nice to say and rather sit with the grumpy guys that continue to diss our team.

let me help you out here about Sainz : He came second in bahrain. He came in 3rd in Saudi Arabia and left Perez in he's dust. Remember that ??

He made an error in Australia ( whoopie )

He came from 10th in the sprint race to 4th.

He got taken out by Ricciardo at Imola ( not Sainz's fault ).............and you wanna tell me what about Sainz ??

It's always easy in hindsight to criticise what could have been. Leclerc had rear tyre deg ( Remember his radio message ?? ) and would never have made it to the penultimate lap and then change tyres and go for the fastest lap as you stated. So where did our pit wall call it wrong ???

if not for our mistakes today, then we could have gotten 3rd and 4th ???

Why don't you rather look at who's leading the drivers and constructors right now ??

Guess you still wanna lame baste Ferrari for one race hey ?? ( Go figure )

[faloupas]

I think that many fans as me and King Charles ,after all these years of bad results have lost their faith in the team.
We see Red Bull fight back and turn things around and we want to believe that after one race or two we will be again infront of them...but we just have not faith.We dont believe that it will happen.
In 2017 Seb after Hungarian Grand Prix was 14 points infront of Hamilton...and we know how it ended.
In 2018 Seb was 8 points in front of Hamilton after British Grand Prix and we know how it ended.
Many of us believed that this year it is our year.But you cannot win a championship with your presentation car.Even if that was the F2004...maybe Mercedes W05 was so good...
Ok..we have a good car but it is still the presentation car.Ferrari now has to push...if not now when?
Remember how many new parts Mercedes used during the seasons.
Also lets see some small details...if Max had at least finish the race in Bahrain and Aus now he would be in front of Charles.Isn it a reality?
As for the drivers,Charles has not the mentality to be a champion now...i dont know about the future but at the moment Max is stonger.Charles is a pure talent but we all know that talent is not enough.It seems that pressure makes him make mistakes.
Carlos has the same issue.Pressure makes him make mistakes.He has a bad season until now.At least he has to start finish the races.

[PURE PASSION]

I think that many fans as me and King Charles ,after all these years of bad results have lost their faith in the team.
We see Red Bull fight back and turn things around and we want to believe that after one race or two we will be again infront of them...but we just have not faith.We dont believe that it will happen.
In 2017 Seb after Hungarian Grand Prix was 14 points infront of Hamilton...and we know how it ended.
In 2018 Seb was 8 points in front of Hamilton after British Grand Prix and we know how it ended.
Many of us believed that this year it is our year.But you cannot win a championship with your presentation car.Even if that was the F2004...maybe Mercedes W05 was so good...
Ok..we have a good car but it is still the presentation car.Ferrari now has to push...if not now when?
Remember how many new parts Mercedes used during the seasons.
Also lets see some small details...if Max had at least finish the race in Bahrain and Aus now he would be in front of Charles.Isn it a reality?
As for the drivers,Charles has not the mentality to be a champion now...i dont know about the future but at the moment Max is stonger.Charles is a pure talent but we all know that talent is not enough.It seems that pressure makes him make mistakes.
Carlos has the same issue.Pressure makes him make mistakes.He has a bad season until now.At least he has to start finish the races.

For me (it probably sound harsh , but) if you don't have faith and judge so cruelly the team after a bad result, then sorry but you don't deserve to be a fun .Simply as that!!!
The true value of a fun of every team is proved in the bad times /results. When they win all the times is easy for everybody

[Cavallino]

we weren't going to win every race, and Imola might not be our track.

maybe Miami isn't our track either.

We don't even need updates to win at Barcelona and Monaco.

but given some updates, some tracks might be tight, but i think there will be some tracks we will be untouchable, and that's where we have to capitalize.

For the naysayers on this thread that like to troll on race weekends,

I'm a long time Ferrari fan, and I have been highly invested in this current rebuild since 2019. I've trusted the process, and so far the pieces have fallen in perfectly.

Binotto came on board, first he improves correlation, then he improves reliability, then now that the correlation is improved we saw last year we can bring updates that improve the car. And most importantly we got the driver(s).

and sometimes we have bad weekends like France 2021 and they fix it.

when Charles makes mistakes he learns