2022 French Grand Prix - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying Thread

[tifosi1993]

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[stasera]

its challenging track for our engines.

[Gilles]

Forecast Temperatures:
32, 32 and 34 degrees celcius

[Cavallino]

If you take past performance out of the equation, on paper this looks like more of a Ferrari track than the Red Bull Ring; Only 2 DRS zones, and some slow twisty corners.

Unfortunately, past performance here has been even worse than Red Bull Ring. It's a smooth surface, similar to Silverstone, and other teams know this track better, they test here more than Ferrari. Supposedly Ferrari "forgot" some data learned in 2019 and 2020 in the simulations for the 2021 setup, hence why it was probably the worst race of the year in terms of race pace last season.

This package is quick everywhere, and so is Charles so i'm cautiously optimistic.

[Cavallino]

its challenging track for our engines.

It's probably worth changing Leclerc's engine, since I think we have one in pool we can switch to without penalty.

And Hungary will probably be tougher, the cars have so much downforce, a high percentage of that track is more full throttle than before.

[FerrariF60]

It's probably worth changing Leclerc's engine, since I think we have one in pool we can switch to without penalty.

And Hungary will probably be tougher, the cars have so much downforce, a high percentage of that track is more full throttle than before.

Ferrari seems to have a good car at every venue nowadays ever since we introduced the last rear wing and a bit more refined side pods and we are almost in par with red fools straight line speed

So why don’t they put another brand new power unit along with all new stuff and start from the back with Charles?? With a possible safety car or whatever he can still finish P4 or even a podium,,,,so that way he has more fresh components in the pool

Unless Ferrari are working flat out on reliability and will give him a BETTER AND MORE RELIABLE engine after summer break???

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari beat redbull in there own back yard, no reason why ferrari can not win in France as always
Expect the unexpected to go into summer break winning last 4 races would be a mighty feat, and game on and I mean game on.

[FerrariF60]

Ferrari beat redbull in there own back yard, no reason why ferrari can not win in France as always
Expect the unexpected to go into summer break winning last 4 races would be a mighty feat, and game on and I mean game on.

i''m not fearing the Ferrari pace, as we seem now to have a quick car at every track since the upgrades we brought couple of races back....the ONLY thing i'm fearing is the UNRELIABLE DONKEY we have strapped in the back of the car.....

but we'll see how all this is gonna pan out in the last 2 races

[Cavallino]

Ferrari seems to have a good car at every venue nowadays ever since we introduced the last rear wing and a bit more refined side pods and we are almost in par with red fools straight line speed

So why don’t they put another brand new power unit along with all new stuff and start from the back with Charles?? With a possible safety car or whatever he can still finish P4 or even a podium,,,,so that way he has more fresh components in the pool

Unless Ferrari are working flat out on reliability and will give him a BETTER AND MORE RELIABLE engine after summer break???

the races after the summer break are also more conducive to starting from the back. And we will have more performance from the ERS coming after summer break, and i'm willing to bet the reliability will be there then as well.

[stefa]

Next two races will be crucial for CL WDC and Ferrari CWC. Ideally it should be 2 x 1-2!

[paolo lalli]

I believe ferrari now have the faster car, I could not give a flying sushi what the ex Honda engine guru says, he know is a consultant with red bull fi.The ferrari is fast on all circuits they seem to have the tyre issue covered, France will be supposedly very warm so expect a tyre spectacle, I can see into my f1 crystal ball Charles overtaking max continually during the race basically a repeat of Austria the only difference will be sainz will be scoring very good Points, I can already hear Max complaining about the car and loosing his cool, you see thats his archillies heel put the Dutch oven on and he collapses under pressure watch this space, now for it to actually happen.

[Aziz]

Only concern is the PU, the car is fast if not the fastest

[Toothlessrage*]

Next two races will be crucial for CL WDC and Ferrari CWC. Ideally it should be 2 x 1-2!

And, both RBR's take out the Mercs to make a good situation heavenly :-P

[stefa]

And, both RBR's take out the Mercs to make a good situation heavenly :-P

:thumb

[Tifoso Svedese]

I can't help but thinking which part of the track Leclerc's engine will give out while leading :-s

The Sainz engine failure in Austria was such a downer.

[FerrariF60]

How many races has Charles engine done so far?? If I’m not mistaken this would be the 4th race in that engine?
And does he have a brand new one still or NO??

[jgonzalesm6]

After the AustiraGP (11 race), Leclerc is on #4 across the board with the 4 basic components so far.

Sainz is on #3 as well.....but he looks to take a grid penalty (5 grid places) just for the ICE. If it's other components that did'nt make it from the fire then quite possibly he'll be at the back of the grid when starting the race.

[PURE PASSION]

�� Ferrari is ready to use a new rear wing in France!

The aim of this evolution is to put the F1-75 in perfect condition on the straights, while benefiting from greater speed in the corners.

From Paolo Filliseti.

[Cavallino]

After the AustiraGP (11 race), Leclerc is on #4 across the board with the 4 basic components so far.

Sainz is on #3 as well.....but he looks to take a grid penalty (5 grid places) just for the ICE. If it's other components that did'nt make it from the fire then quite possibly he'll be at the back of the grid when starting the race.

Yes, he's on #4, but on the Canada GP weekend he took 3 AND 4. He has atleast 2 in the pool that i know of ( and possibly PU1 as well ) that he can switch between without penalty.

[nani_s23]

After the AustiraGP (11 race), Leclerc is on #4 across the board with the 4 basic components so far.

Sainz is on #3 as well.....but he looks to take a grid penalty (5 grid places) just for the ICE. If it's other components that did'nt make it from the fire then quite possibly he'll be at the back of the grid when starting the race.

With ERS upgrade in plan after summer break & number of high powered tracks coming up. I’m looking at one more engine penalty for Leclerc PU5 if PU4 or PU3 provide any issues.

[Brembo]

Sainz chances got burnt! He needs pole bad.

[FerrariF60]

With ERS upgrade in plan after summer break & number of high powered tracks coming up. I’m looking at one more engine penalty for Leclerc PU5 if PU4 or PU3 provide any issues.

For sure Leclerc will,have to take a 5th power unit...the 3 and 4 already have some races to their tally and we know how “reliable “ these engines are....but if he takes it at a track where passing is possible it will be damage limitation and with some luck he can still finish 4th or so.....and will have another fresh engine in the pool

Maybe by them Ferrari may have addressed some of he reliability issues

[nani_s23]

New Ferrari upgrade: a significant upgrade of the Venturi inlet design, now double profile. Increased downforce through more volume in the underframe. The evolved floor is only on Charles's F1-75 so far.


@giuliano Duchessa

[jgonzalesm6]

New Ferrari upgrade: a significant upgrade of the Venturi inlet design, now double profile. Increased downforce through more volume in the underframe. The evolved floor is only on Charles's F1-75 so far.

[FerrariF60]

difference of before and the upgraded Venturi inlet



https://i.imgur.com/QdND7jP.png

[wisepie]

New Ferrari upgrade: a significant upgrade of the Venturi inlet design, now double profile. Increased downforce through more volume in the underframe. The evolved floor is only on Charles's F1-75 so far.

Where does this fit in with the proposed floor/plank investigations coming into effect from Spa...or have we taken that into account?

[PURE PASSION]

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[Greig]

Seems like our development plan is coming along nicely despite what some on here say :-)

[nani_s23]

Seems like our development plan is coming along nicely despite what some on here say :-)

Mercs with another upgrade package here, expecting to close the gap to RB & Ferrari.

I don’t know what is this budget cap mean?

Mercs is the only team who brought major upgrades since start of the season.

[PURE PASSION]

Mercs with another upgrade package here, expecting to close the gap to RB & Ferrari.

I don’t know what is this budget cap mean?

Mercs is the only team who brought major upgrades since start of the season.

well this question will be unswered after the summer break and towards the end of the season.
if teams like merc keep delivering upgrades, then this whole thing of te budget cap is a farse.
And we will see if we instead keep bringing some updates till te end (as a lot of rumours suggest) also in a view to '23!!

[Kyss4k]

Mercs with another upgrade package here, expecting to close the gap to RB & Ferrari.

I don’t know what is this budget cap mean?

Mercs is the only team who brought major upgrades since start of the season.

Well if the cost cap works, it would mean they will have no upgrades in the second half of a season, while we will continue to improve the car. If not, there is something shady going on in that team (nothing new) and it should be checked.

[gvera]

Well if the cost cap works, it would mean they will have no upgrades in the second half of a season, while we will continue to improve the car. If not, there is something shady going on in that team (nothing new) and it should be checked.

It's not that simple, it's how you optimise resources and how much you spent in the initial project hence how much you have to spend in upgrades.
There isn't a specific budget for upgrades.

[RossTheBoss]

It's not that simple, it's how you optimise resources and how much you spent in the initial project hence how much you have to spend in upgrades.
There isn't a specific budget for upgrades.
Cost are based on the labor of the engineers and design team, and all top teams are paying comparable salary rates. One team might be able to afford one upgrade package more, but Mercedes have been bringing expensive parts almost every race, while keeping in my mind that also brought two concept designs to early season testing to start with.

They're clearly just going to cook the books. It's what high paid accountants do. Those accountants can literally take tens of millions, and make it look like chump change. They do it for rich people to avoid paying taxes all the time. It's no thing for them.

Binotto brought attention to how much Mercedes and Red Bull are spending, so they can't turn around and complain if Ferrari do the same in kind.

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari are developing there car nicely they have a measured and well managed process happening, I can probably align it with mercedes more than redbull.As fans we can only assume and purely speculate as to what actually transpires back at maranello.Fi is a very secretive business always has been always will be, so for a team like ferrari to state one thing to the media and to do the complete opposite is not out of cont andext.A curve ball here and there keeps all guessing from the fans to the opposition.More importantly do not critise the ferrari organisation on what they are doing right and what they are doing wrong, they are a lot smarter than you and I combined.They are the masters of there craft.

[Super M]

So, is this in relation to the new TD that will be introduced at the Belgium GP ?:-E

Or is it simply Ferrari just improving their floor ?? :Hmm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-brings-new-f1-floor-to-french-grand-prix/10341141/?fbclid=IwAR14EIseD1ss3viEwu79VZ4exf6-EtE4Gcf9p7mpWV5qkwE_4aotOF4R4ZI

[gump1480]

So, is this in relation to the new TD that will be introduced at the Belgium GP ?:-E

Or is it simply Ferrari just improving their floor ?? :Hmm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-brings-new-f1-floor-to-french-grand-prix/10341141/?fbclid=IwAR14EIseD1ss3viEwu79VZ4exf6-EtE4Gcf9p7mpWV5qkwE_4aotOF4R4ZI

Could be both..lets see how this performs in FP1-2

[Super M]

Could be both..lets see how this performs in FP1-2

:thumb Lets hope it's the latter

[PURE PASSION]

So, is this in relation to the new TD that will be introduced at the Belgium GP ?:-E

Or is it simply Ferrari just improving their floor ?? :Hmm

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-brings-new-f1-floor-to-french-grand-prix/10341141/?fbclid=IwAR14EIseD1ss3viEwu79VZ4exf6-EtE4Gcf9p7mpWV5qkwE_4aotOF4R4ZI

Since it looks to have to do with the increase of the air volume under the floor, it seems to be more about improved aero (more dnf from the floor).

[Super M]

Since it looks to have to do with the increase of the air volume under the floor, it seems to be more about improved aero (more dnf from the floor).


Guess we'll see how they perform in FP1 & 2.......That should indicate where we stand. But i hear only CL will have this new floor. CS will carry on with the old one.

[PURE PASSION]

Guess we'll see how they perform in FP1 & 2.......That should indicate where we stand. But i hear only CL will have this new floor. CS will carry on with the old one.

No. The FP1&2 will not be representative for a while, due to our reliability issues. We run much lower settings to protect the engines.

Since reliability problems have become more frequent, Binotto himself stated that the management of the engines of the Maranello team would have been modified in terms of parameters, trying in some way to extend the life of the engines in the short term, with the aim of optimize mileage. In fact, for a few weeks now, Ferrari has been using less horsepower during free practice sessions, even going so far as to weaken its unit by at least 20 hp, precisely to subject the units to less degradation, even those used today for Friday rotations.
From F1UNO.

[nani_s23]

Another Ferrari New floor arrived just an hour ago

@Formula_uno

[nani_s23]

Upgrades French GP:

Mercedes: Floor Edge, Front Brake Ducts

Red Bull: Floor Fences, Rear Brake Winglets

Ferrari: Floor (front/mid & diffuser)

McLaren: Rear Wing Endplate, Sidepods, Engone Cover, Cooling Louvres, Floor & Diffuser, Rear Brake Ducts

Alpine: Floor (strakes & fences)

Alpha Tauri: Floor (fences, edge, diffuser), Engine Cover

Aston Martin: Floor Edge

Williams: Floor (forward mounting)

Alfa Romeo: Rear Brake deflector

Haas: Nothing

#AMus

[Super M]

No. The FP1&2 will not be representative for a while, due to our reliability issues. We run much lower settings to protect the engines.

I'd think they would do that for Carlos Saiz, But not Leclerc, as they'd want to see if the parts do make a difference. Why bring upgrades of this magnitude only for us to detune and conserve our engines ?

[Riccardog]

oh, what a WONDERFUL sight the timesheet with one name missing, could this please be the beginning of the future?

[elnano14]

I'm not confident

[Super M]

oh, what a WONDERFUL sight the timesheet with one name missing, could this please be the beginning of the future?


Yip, Agreed :clap

[WS6TransAm01]

Charles never ceases to impress me.

[Super M]

Seems like the right idea......

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sainz-gets-10-place-grid-drop-in-france-after-power-unit-element-change/10341507/?fbclid=IwAR18qY-Y0mEOUb9eo-5wlgGQUmTuRBqTEyTiE45zLFI3kd3WnL436hy5giM

[WS6TransAm01]

oh, what a WONDERFUL sight the timesheet with one name missing, could this please be the beginning of the future?

What do you have against Bottas?

[Riccardog]

What do you have against Bottas?

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl
wrong missing name!!!!

[WS6TransAm01]

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl
wrong missing name!!!!

I know... just busting chops.

[Kyss4k]

Somehow we were super slow on the "long runs" compared to RB. Hopefully just a friday engine spec and dirty track.

[Riccardog]

Somehow we were super slow on the "long runs" compared to RB. Hopefully just a friday engine spec and dirty track.

I actually like seeing Ferrari downplaying FP1 it makes me think they are the ones playing with other teams instead of the reverse...

[Tifoso Svedese]

Sainz was about 20 kph slower on the back straight than Verstappen on the TV measurement so yeah definitely very low engine modes for the heavy fuel run.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.ibb.co/LhYh6t5/Screenshot-2022-07-22-191119.jpg

[tifosi1993]

The updates are working. Car is very fast in twisty bits and not losing any time on the straights when the DRS is not open.

[Riccardog]

to note also, we have engine issues... so, why stress the engine unnecessarily in practises....

[nani_s23]

Somehow we were super slow on the "long runs" compared to RB. Hopefully just a friday engine spec and dirty track.

Ohhh com’n it’s just FP1 & they need to evaluate new bits & pieces they brought here.

Saturday FP3 & Quali will give good reference.

I feel pretty confident unless reliability issues.

[Tifoso Svedese]

M-M-H or M-H-H will be an interesting choice for the race. Can't see a one-stopper working out in these temperatures with S3 the way it is.

[paolo lalli]

I have said this before ferrari now have the fastest f1 package and I could not give sushi as to what the Honda people say.The ferrari is strong on all circuits I expect a great performance from the team.

[stefa]

Early Friday, but I would say positive

[Tifoso Svedese]

It's like 2/3 of this track is being fast through the final sector and both cars are so it's a net positive for sure. Then there are a lot more obstacles including the engine to overcome this weekend for Charles to win but it's a positive beginning.

Even with Carlos starting from the back he might have a chance at an unlikely podium if he really nails race trim and tyre degradation. He'll probably need some luck though because I don't think Pérez and Mercedes will be that far behind as they were in this session.

[gump1480]

It's like 2/3 of this track is being fast through the final sector and both cars are so it's a net positive for sure. Then there are a lot more obstacles including the engine to overcome this weekend for Charles to win but it's a positive beginning.

Even with Carlos starting from the back he might have a chance at an unlikely podium if he really nails race trim and tyre degradation. He'll probably need some luck though because I don't think Pérez and Mercedes will be that far behind as they were in this session.

I do think Mercs are 0.6-0.8s per lap behind the fastest RB/Ferrari. Perez will definitely be on podium (barring any dnf) with CS out of picture.

Hoping for good clean race for Lec without any pitstop/ICE/Turbo/throttle/gearbox issue.

[FerrariF60]

Any free links for FP2??

thank you

[Riccardog]

Any free links for FP2??

thank you

http://f1livegp.me/f1/live.php

[458 Italia]

Sky sounding excited about the merc upgrades. They expect hamilton to be challenging for the win here.

[FerrariF60]

http://f1livegp.me/f1/live.php

thank you

[FerrariF60]

Sky sounding excited about the merc upgrades. They expect hamilton to be challenging for the win here.

lmao....they're a bunch of **** with their bias towards merc and Hamster

MOD: Please don't bypass the swear filter...

[stefa]

Sky sounding excited about the merc upgrades. They expect hamilton to be challenging for the win here.

:rotfl

[WS6TransAm01]

Sky sounding excited about the merc upgrades. They expect hamilton to be challenging for the win here.

I have a feeling that IF Merc wins this year, it will be George...

[FerrariF60]

I have a feeling that IF Merc wins this year, it will be George...

most likely......

[Tifoso Svedese]

Sky sounding excited about the merc upgrades. They expect hamilton to be challenging for the win here.

Paul Ricard is low drag and horsepower central. Mercedes have neither. If the full track was like S3 they might be very competitive but the Mistral Straight and the slow turns ahead of Signes are just too much for their car to handle.

[paolo lalli]

The brits from sky are cheering merc upgrades while the germans are crying all over there pork buckle.Only failures from the top 2 teams will bring merc into play.Failing that a brilliant third by George or 5th and 7th at best.

[FerrariF60]

so far so good....Ferrari seem to be having this in the bag....IF no reliability issues arise or team goof up's with teh strategy

[458 Italia]

Oh good Eduardo Freitas the GOAT is race director again this weekend :-)

[Tifoso Svedese]

Pérez looks to have some genuine issues with pace here.

[Kyss4k]

This looks good.

[stefa]

Pérez looks to have some genuine issues with pace here.

Good for us :-D

[FerrariF60]

Good for us :-D

totally....

[elnano14]

If Perez is struggling for top 10 we should use Sainz to knock him out of Q2 tomorrow

[PURE PASSION]

Verstappen wants to try another attempt with the tank empty. From the pits they remind him that they have to concentrate on the race simulation since there are 20 minutes left. Max replied: 'Yeah, but I don't want to start P3 or P4'. Now he is back in the pits for a modification to the wing
So what we see might be accurate , and if (as a lot saying and i asked Giuliano Duchessa and he confirmed it ) we are actualy running more detunned engines then RBR , then we might be even faster .
But thats about qualy pace. What about race ???

[Tifoso Svedese]

If Perez is struggling for top 10 we should use Sainz to knock him out of Q2 tomorrow

I think he'll be P5 on the grid no matter what but it could take him out of being a thorn in the side for Charles on Sunday when it comes to pit stop windows.

[elnano14]

Max's the only one with race pace in 1m37s is quite concerning

[tifosi1993]

Max's the only one with race pace in 1m37s is quite concerning

We were also doing 1m37's. But both caught traffic, especially Charles.

I'm not concerned about the pace. it's the reliability which is the major concern. Hopefully both cars will survive and we'll score good points here. Fingers crossed.

[tifosi1993]

https://i.ibb.co/sF1L0SF/Screenshot-2022-07-22-221038.jpg

[Tifoso Svedese]

It's also important to mention that during FP1 Carlos was doing 295 kph and Verstappen 313 kph on the race runs on the Mistral Straight. Clearly, the engines are massively detuned for everything except qualifying runs. The important thing during race simulations is to gague the tyre wear and have realistic corner speeds, if you lay off one second per lap in a straight line it doesn't matter. Now during FP2 I suspect there could've been similar differences. Then in addition Verstappen had fresher tyres and a shorter run on the mediums in question.

[nani_s23]

Max's the only one with race pace in 1m37s is quite concerning

Ferrari detuned FP engines.

[PURE PASSION]

Dont know. Im a bit concerned about tire management. Both drivers reported high degradation.:Hmm
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[elnano14]

Long run simulation
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[wisepie]

A positive FP1/2 but our biggest worry is reliability, as well as a probable grid penalty for Carlos. I have a feeling the Mercs will be closer in race trim which is not what we want unless they take points away from RB! All to play for, if the car holds up.:pray

[nani_s23]

Dont know. Im a bit concerned about tire management. Both drivers reported high degradation.:Hmm
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If it’s high deg, ferrari wouldn’t have improved on their 2nd run of Softs.
Max did try second run of Sots but couldn’t improve.

I assume it’s down low engine settings.

[nani_s23]

Dont know. Im a bit concerned about tire management. Both drivers reported high degradation.:Hmm
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If it’s high deg, ferrari wouldn’t have improved on their 2nd run of Softs.
Max did try second run of Sots but couldn’t improve.

I assume it’s down low engine settings.

[paolo lalli]

The hot weather will degrade everybody's tyres, he who manages them best wins.Mother nature will have some say in this.Go slow and manage tyres you loose go out guns blazing and your tyres will fall apart, its a balancing act with tyre management.

[PURE PASSION]

If it’s high deg, ferrari wouldn’t have improved on their 2nd run of Softs.
Max did try second run of Sots but couldn’t improve.

I assume it’s down low engine settings.

you refer to low guel runs. Yes till ten it looked quite good. But then on high fuel we run low to high 1:38s while Max low to high 1:37s.
now 1st we started earlier and run mugh bigger stint (almost twice te laps) and 2nd yes we migt run lower on the engines then RBR. In Spain and Austria we had a simular picture o FPs and come Sunday we where much better. Just my only concern is this (except of course the reliability issues) .Do dont have the picture of Imola-Miami tire wise.

[PURE PASSION]

Οκ according to scuderiafans.com our "poor" race pace was only down to lower power settings!!!:pray

Very impressive race sim for Red Bull. Mercedes has older Mediums so their pace isn’t that bad actually, but they aren’t on the same level as Red Bull.

Ferrari seemingly with bad race pace, although Charles Leclerc had some laps in the middle that were compromised by traffic, laps 3-4-5-6. Lap 2 to lap 7 for Charles show similar degradation as to what Red Bull saw with Verstappen. So why is Ferrari slow? Same story as FP1. Ferrari isn’t pushing the engine in the race sim and losing quite a lot of time in the straights, speed advantage in corners for Ferrari is still all there, a sign that tyres haven’t degraded too much.

[JPZ]

Sainz taking a 10 place grid penalty due to new engine component.

[Forza SF]

Following the conclusion of the second free practice session at the Circuit Paul Ricard, British former racing driver and current television announcer for Sky Sports F1 Johnny Herbert felt that, as it stands, Ferrari are the team to beat in France.

He said: “Ferrari’s car has very good balance and it is also very soft on it’s tyres. When you have tyre degradation like you do at the circuit here in France, where it’s very high, that’s where the Ferrari is probably going to gain that little bit more. The Ferrari just has a very soft rotation and a much, much softer way of loading up the tyre.” – he explained.

[nani_s23]

Sainz taking a 10 place grid penalty due to new engine component.

He will take further engine penalty as well. Just they will confirm at last moment.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari: the new fund works well. Introduction initially planned in Hungary, great work to be able to have the second model already in France. On the F1-75 there is work to be done to limit graining. Confident Leclerc

@Formu1a_uno

[Tony]

It's not that simple, it's how you optimise resources and how much you spent in the initial project hence how much you have to spend in upgrades.
There isn't a specific budget for upgrades.

That was my original concern, because Ferrari had more windtunnel and CFD time than others, they may have eaten (most likely the case) more of their budget pre-launch, leaving less for developments vs RB...

[Tony]

Cost are based on the labor of the engineers and design team, and all top teams are paying comparable salary rates. One team might be able to afford one upgrade package more, but Mercedes have been bringing expensive parts almost every race, while keeping in my mind that also brought two concept designs to early season testing to start with.

They're clearly just going to cook the books. It's what high paid accountants do. Those accountants can literally take tens of millions, and make it look like chump change. They do it for rich people to avoid paying taxes all the time. It's no thing for them.

Binotto brought attention to how much Mercedes and Red Bull are spending, so they can't turn around and complain if Ferrari do the same in kind.

Careful, I'm an accountant, we can't just cook the books, in most countries, accountants can't actually commit fraud and retain their designations. In Canada, a CPA loses their designation if they commit fraud.

[paolo lalli]

Well regardless if mercedes are cooking there so called books, they can cook them all they like because its not equating to an on track winning car.By the time this happens the entire season would have been cooked proper, like done and dusted.

[stasera]

Carlos Sainz might get the pole today. he was so fast in the practice session

[PURE PASSION]

Carlos Sainz might get the pole today. he was so fast in the practice session

He will start from the back og the grid ,so no point to try anyhting. He will most possibly set a time in Q1 and thats it.

[Aziz]

He will start from the back og the grid ,so no point to try anyhting. He will most possibly set a time in Q1 and thats it.

We haven't taken any new parts today

[PURE PASSION]

We haven't taken any new parts today

Yep, 4th ice etc

[gump1480]

Very off session for us. RB looks dialled in compared to us today.

[PURE PASSION]

Very off session for us. RB looks dialled in compared to us today.

Yeh , its strange how things can change from 1 day to another. Its not that RedBull find their set-up and tey are fast , but that we went a step back. Of corse all this is what we see now in FP3

[paolo lalli]

What a load of crap mate ferrari have done better than expected and baring some season issues which some could have been managed better ferrari would be a mile ahead dialled in my ****.

[RossTheBoss]

Very off session for us. RB looks dialled in compared to us today.
Yeah. Red Bull look to be back on their game and favorites this weekend again.

[elnano14]

Our pace yesterday is gone

[PURE PASSION]

For example yesterday we could push on the 2nd lap and te tires where great, now on Lec the tires where not great on the 1st lap and they are gone on the 2nd.
Ves has no problems today and easily can be infront. Lets see in Qualy if it changes again

[RossTheBoss]

Our pace yesterday is gone
We had slower race pace than Red Bull yesterday, too.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Since front row for Charles is nearly a given the most important thing is to be able to keep the mediums and hards alive. If this slow on the single lap and still getting rolled away from tomorrow that's a disaster on the other hand.

[Schumiklub]

I just followed what Charles was doing at the end. One push lap then one cooldown lap and so on. Each push lap was very fast. In S2 the times were almost the same each time (28.4). I'm hoping we still haven't turned up the engine as much as Red Bull.

[elnano14]

We had slower race pace than Red Bull yesterday, too.

We have been behind Red Bull in race pace simulation in FP2 all season until Sunday, idk why are people pointing this as a big problem. Every week we see the same in FP2. Just this FP3 have some strange things that make me worry about 1 lap pace

[stefa]

Just saw results.... What has happend?!?!

[nani_s23]

Just saw results.... What has happend?!?!

Nothing much … it’s same as previous weeks. Just wait for quali.

[stefa]

Nothing much … it’s same as previous weeks. Just wait for quali.

OK...

[nani_s23]

RB with Low DF package (which they used in Jeddah) vs Ferrari Medium DF package.

Ferrari did bring new floor to this race. I assume both used it in FP3.

[JPZ]

I just followed what Charles was doing at the end. One push lap then one cooldown lap and so on. Each push lap was very fast. In S2 the times were almost the same each time (28.4). I'm hoping we still haven't turned up the engine as much as Red Bull.

Possibly tuning down the engines for practice.

[nani_s23]

S2 -> Ferrari 325 top speed vs RB -> 335

Interesting Charles .3ths down in S3 as well. He lost everything in S2 & S3.

[nani_s23]

Verstappen more centered in FP3 while Ferrari tried something more (perhaps with the pressure) to understand the tire use margin. FER paid 10 km / h from RBR, MER even a little more but tried to understand if the most charged wing can pay 20 hp / 4 tenths


@Formu1a_uno

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc takes his 7th exhaust system. I believe that's all you're allowed for the season. IF so, more grid penalties from here on out on the exhaust system.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Leclerc takes his 7th exhaust system. I believe that's all you're allowed for the season. IF so, more grid penalties from here on out on the exhaust system.

Probably tactical and will take an 8th at the same time as the reliability upgrade grid penalty comes.

[jgonzalesm6]

Yeah, sacrifice Sainz to give Leclerc a tow.

[458 Italia]

I guess the plan is for Carlos to not run at all.

[stefa]

Why not use CS for a tow?!?!

[stefa]

Red Bull much faster on straight!

[458 Italia]

Oh scratch that out he comes now.

[ntukza]

I hope we don't get pole.

[458 Italia]

Red Bull much faster on straight!

I think it's looking like Red Bull will have the faster race pace.

[tifosi1993]

Pace was never the concern, even if FP3 didn't look anything special.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Looks like you're allowed eight exhausts either way.

Charles fast in Q1 so clearly in a 50/50 ballpark for pole here.

[jgonzalesm6]

Looks like you're allowed eight exhausts either way.

.

Thanks.....that's what I thought. I wasn't sure if it was 7 or 8 exhausts for the season.

[458 Italia]

Oh no Mick had his time deleted.

[458 Italia]

Harsh but them the rules.

[tifosi1993]

Mercedes going to win this race they said. :rotfl

[458 Italia]

I thought Mercedes going to win this race. :rotfl

Sky said so! :-D

[PURE PASSION]

Lec on use softs
RBRs on new

[tifosi1993]

Charles out on used softs.

[tifosi1993]

Sainz out on new softs. Let's see what the F1-75 can do with fresh tyres in Q2.

Edit: Looks rapid :clap

[Tifoso Svedese]

Woah Carlos where did that come from? :lol :-E :thumb

[nani_s23]

Sainz out on new softs. Let's see what the F1-75 can do with fresh tyres in Q2.

Edit: Looks rapid :clap

Monster Lap from Sainz

[WS6TransAm01]

Holy hell. Now that’s a lap!

[stefa]

What a lap from CS

[PURE PASSION]

Ooooooaaaaoooo
Sainz !!!! 1:31:00!!!!

[patrese86]

Haha what a lap

[bogs1207]

Wow! What a lap.

[elnano14]

That a pole lap right there ***

[ntukza]

How on earth are we 1 sec faster than RB on the same tyre? Wow!

[ferrari1.8t]

Monster lap…Ferrari flexing its muscle before q3! 9 tenths up on Verstappen. Incredible.

And Merc :rotfl supposed to win this race, over 2 seconds off the pace. Lol delusional sky…

[gump1480]

Does CL need to go out on new tires?

[ferrari1.8t]

Lec .135 down on Saniz. He might be able to get pole on his own, however it makes sense to give him a tow to be sure to get pole.

[PURE PASSION]

Does CL need to go out on new tires?

Probably won't use them in the race

[PURE PASSION]

Will we go under 1:30??

[tifosi1993]

We've made a decent step forward with the floor. But I'm still worried about reliabilities.

[ntukza]

INCREDIBLE!

[tifosi1993]

Lec .135 down on Saniz. He might be able to get pole on his own, however it makes sense to give him a tow to be sure to get pole.

Charles doesn't need any help. Sainz has the new PU which is a free lap time gain. There's no need for go out and put it under stress.

[ntukza]

We've made a decent step forward with the floor. But I'm still worried about reliabilities.

I'm worried about race pace. Reliability is an ongoing concern until we make reliability upgrades to the engine.

[RossTheBoss]

Wow. Ferrari were hiding tons of speed during practice sessions, which seems to be a pattern.

I hope the team utilize Sainz to give Leclerc a tow.

[ferrari1.8t]

With a tow lec not able to match Saniz q2 lap, plus only .008 ahead of Verstappen. Hmm?

[PURE PASSION]

Ooο close!!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Can definitely be done better but it's good to be ahead now in case of a yellow later.

[stefa]

Not that much help from a tow

[tifosi1993]

More to come from Charles

[gump1480]

So much for 1 s faster

[PURE PASSION]

I think Lec didn't manage to get a tow from Sainz

[elnano14]

I think we botched the tow

[PURE PASSION]

It's so close. Lec must deliver one of his master laps to secure it

[stefa]

2nd try

[JacKy]

2nd sector times at tfeed and the TV feed is different like +0.11sec. Dunno why

[ntukza]

So much for 1 s faster

True. I take that back.

[458 Italia]

Great lap!!

[ferrari1.8t]

And P1!! Yes baby!!

[ntukza]

But quite frankly we've lost so many races the season from pole that I really don't care much for pole. I hope that our race pace is better than RB.

[ferrari1.8t]

Charles says “grande Carlos”…respect!

[drax]

Great job TEAM

[stefa]

Yes!!!!

[stefa]

Charles says “grande Carlos”…respect!

What a class!

[ferrari1.8t]

16 Poles for Charles! What a driver!!!

[WS6TransAm01]

Excellent team effort!

[stefa]

We need this and next race to win!

[jgonzalesm6]

But quite frankly we've lost so many races the season from pole that I really don't care much for pole. I hope that our race pace is better than RB.

True dat. Let's see how the race pace is tomorrow.

[Kyss4k]

Nicely managed, great job. Now let's just leave RB in our dust in the race and hope RB eats their tyres again. Little bit worried the tyre management may switch like it did from Melbourne to Imola, but hopefully we got the setup right.

[patrese86]

Done all we can considering the circumstances. Don't know if we have the race pace here but it was never going to be easy with those two straights against the red bull

[JacKy]

BTW Sainz Q2 time was 1.31.081 , which was faster than RB’s Q3 best times.

[jgonzalesm6]

2 RedBulls vs 1 Ferrari.

RedBull will split tire strats. for tomorrow against Leclerc provided there's no reliability issues for both teams.

[PURE PASSION]

Great team effort, but I still believe that he would have got pole anyway. Carlos helped Lec in 1 sector ,but Lec managed to better his times in all sectors while Max didnt

[tifosi1993]

https://i.ibb.co/LSL1dmW/Screenshot-2022-07-23-210618.jpg

[Tifoso Svedese]

Charles is the only native French speaker I'm ever close to being able to understand based on my English and basic Italian alone :-D I'm told the Monégasque/Nice accent is very gentle.

[JacKy]

Charles equalized the pole Numbers with Max Verstappen, Felipe Massa and Stirling Moss at 16.

[gump1480]

So are we using the low-med downforce rear wing or high downforce wing? Quite a huge gap to RB in terms of top-speed.

[Aziz]

To me it looks like we are running high DF config

[JacKy]

So are we using the low-med downforce rear wing or high downforce wing? Quite a huge gap to RB in terms of top-speed.

They are well above everyone in terms of top speed. Everybody close to eachother except them.

[elnano14]

They are well above everyone in terms of top speed. Everybody close to eachother except them.

Yep, I don't think we're slow in the straight, we hit 333kph, just that Red Bull is absolutely missile on the straight.

[PURE PASSION]

So are we using the low-med downforce rear wing or high downforce wing? Quite a huge gap to RB in terms of top-speed.

We medium
RBR medium/low (Jedda)
RBR have 1 click lower rear dnf !!!

[nani_s23]

We medium
RBR medium/low (Jedda)
RBR have 1 click lower rear dnf !!!

Leclerc will be vulnerable in S2 against RB going tomorrow.
It’s all about he manages his tyres in S1 & S3, where might have advantage.

[JacKy]

Leclerc will be vulnerable in S2 against RB going tomorrow.
It’s all about he manages his tyres in S1 & S3, where might have advantage.

This is gonna be either miami gp or austrian gp imo.

[Kyss4k]

This is gonna be either miami gp or austrian gp imo.

I would love to see Melbourne again, with Charles being a pitstop ahead and with such a low tyre deg that he could set FL with 20+ laps old tyres.

[PURE PASSION]

Yep ,it's all gonna be down to tire management. If Lec can use them well without drop of performance/grip ,at least not worse then Ves, then he would be fine. In race we will have smaller differences on speed and if Lec manage to clear a gap in tighter sections, he will cruise away!!

[tifosi1993]

Leclerc will be vulnerable in S2 against RB going tomorrow.
It’s all about he manages his tyres in S1 & S3, where might have advantage.

Just like the last 5/6 races, our main rival for tomorrow's race will be ourselves, not Red Bull and their top speed. Ferrari acted as the Santa Claus for Red Bull, freely gifted them points and wins.

The only way RB can keep with the F1-75 is by running low downforce. If they ran with the same aero config, they will still be slower in the corners while losing out massively on the straights.

[nani_s23]

2 RB’s vs 1 Ferrari. It’s always throws good strategy options for chasing team.

Hope Sainz gets to top6 as quickly as possible & late SC would help him. Straight line speed of Haas/Williams/Alpine/Alpha T is very good.

[nani_s23]

Just like the last 5/6 races, our main rival for tomorrow's race will be ourselves, not Red Bull and their top speed. Ferrari acted as the Santa Claus for Red Bull, freely gifted them points and wins.

The only way RB can keep with the F1-75 is by running low downforce. If they ran with the same aero config, they will still be slower in the corners while losing out massively on the straights.

Agree… but let’s see how it goes. We need a win here without any trouble, that gives massive confidence for leclerc & team.

I want to see a dominating race by Ferrari & Leclerc just like Australia without any problems. As every other race we had some or the other problems either it’s strategy or reliability.

[Tifoso]

Nice work! 16!!

[nani_s23]

Leclerc: "I'm more confident about our race pace than I was about our Qualifying pace. I have struggled with the one-lap pace this weekend, with the balance of the car - up until Q3 where I managed to put everything together. Carlos was great, he helped me quite a bit."


:-D leclerc is keeping us interested.

[RossTheBoss]

Excellent team effort!
Yes, for once Sainz was used by Ferrari like Perez is by Red Bull, and it paid off. Hope the turn learn from it.

[RossTheBoss]

Won't lie. Red Bull's will be tough to defend against on the big straights in sec-2. Ferrari seem to be going for a higher downforce setup.

Hope Sainz can come up through the field and get to 4th, providing he doesn't get in a crash or suffer reliability issues.

[stasera]

Q1 was incredible. well done pretty boy

sainz might be in the podium tomorrow. his car is the fastest car on the track

[paolo lalli]

Ferrari are making max very very nervous ferrari have nothing to loose considering this was a binotto said virtually a non championship year .Pile the pressure onto Max and he will crack that Dutch oven can not take the heat.if max goes to hard chasing Charles which is what he will do providing he leads after turns tyres will go off,max can be aggressive on tyres regardless if he is being followed or chased down.Defintely red bull are under the pump.Carlos will play a big part as the race unfolds.As always expect the unexpected.The pole numbers are amazing .

[PURE PASSION]

Charles also said that they are always weaker on Friday (longrun) and Ferrari knows the reason.

[ntukza]

I must say, Schumacher seems rather average.

[wisepie]

Great team work from Carlos and Charles to get that pole, but pole hasn't done Charles any favours in recent races, so I'm nervous about our tyre deg and outright speed against the RBs, as well as our reliability. Good to see the team being proactive, a real shame that Carlos isn't there at the front to take the fight to RB and dare I say it, Merc. Another nail-biter in prospect tomorrow.

[nani_s23]

https://www.racefans.net/2022/07/22/ferrari-and-customer-teams-expect-better-starts-with-new-clutch/

Ferrari with new clutch at French GP for better starts.

[Riccardog]

“The two top teams are just in their own league” – Lewis Hamilton
Am I wrong in reading this comment and feeling that the utterances by this being are more and more pathetic each race?

did he forget the last 7 years????? ***

[Gilles]

“The two top teams are just in their own league” – Lewis Hamilton
Am I wrong in reading this comment and feeling that the utterances by this being are more and more pathetic each race?

did he forget the last 7 years????? ***

Wrong?
Unfortunatly, not that much : 8 years

[458 Italia]

Wrong?
Unfortunatly, not that much : 8 years

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiY3nnEV4AAdXXv.jpg:small

[Gilles]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYXJ1DGWAAAsSmz?format=png&name=small

[jgonzalesm6]

BREAKING NEWS: PAUL RICARD WILL NOT RETURN FOR THE 2023 CALENDER.

good riddance too. I also hated their "artistic" trophy.

[WS6TransAm01]

BREAKING NEWS: PAUL RICARD WILL NOT RETURN FOR THE 2023 CALENDER.

good riddance too. I also hated their "artistic" trophy.

I won’t be sad. It’s a crappy track.

[Tifoso Svedese]

There should be a French Grand Prix but Paul Ricard just ain't it.

I like what Ocon suggested, to use the full Le Mans layout. It's on the long side so 23 laps in the race but with some minor runoff fixes it's safe enough. Would be a great event around Bastile Day (14 July).

[jgonzalesm6]

There should be a French Grand Prix but Paul Ricard just ain't it.

I like what Ocon suggested, to use the full Le Mans layout. It's on the long side so basically 25 laps in the race but with some minor runoff fixes it's safe enough. Would be a great event around Bastile Day (14 July).

Magny-Cours???? I know, I know....it needs to be built up to F1 certification (track wise) and there's no infrastructure for the people to stay and eat.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Magny-Cours???? I know, I know....it needs to be built up to F1 certification (track wise) and there's no infrastructure for the people to stay and eat.

I have many fond Ferrari memories at Magny-Cours but it would seem a bit unrealistic considering Nevers is in the middle of nowhere. Also the DRS zone before the hairpin would be on the short side to allow passing. The long right-hander (Estoril curve) in sector one would be unbelieveable in modern cars though.

For the best racing it would be the return of Dijon-Prenois with the mighty 1.2 km straight and fast corners but that's clearly never going to happen! Would be a glorious sprint track. 52-53 second laps.

[nani_s23]

F2 sprint race, Slipstream & DRS was very powerful

[RossTheBoss]

Biggest enemies for today are obvious. Straight line speed of the Red Bull, possible contact for Sainz coming up through the field, reliability, and strategy.

I'm also watching to see if Leclerc and Max finally come together.

Looks like Ferrari have gone for a higher downforce setup this weekend. Look great in the sec-1 and sec-3. But IDK if that won't wear the tires down fast.

[Cavallino]

Biggest enemies for today are obvious. Straight line speed of the Red Bull, possible contact for Sainz coming up through the field, reliability, and strategy.

I'm also watching to see if Leclerc and Max finally come together.

Looks like Ferrari have gone for a higher downforce setup this weekend. Look great in the sec-1 and sec-3. But IDK if that won't wear the tires down fast.

Conventional wisdom says it should be the drink sponsored team that is in tyre trouble. Think back to 2020-2021, when Leclerc would qualify high with low downforce then chew a way his tyres.

That's why contrary to what people say, the F1-75 isn't faster than the other cars, except if Sainz is faster. Make no mistake, this kid is making the difference.

[Cavallino]

I would say the same, but differently: RB opted for a low downforce setup
Possibly a risky choice

we said the same thing, seconds apart.

[Gilles]

Biggest enemies for today are obvious. Straight line speed of the Red Bull, possible contact for Sainz coming up through the field, reliability, and strategy.

I'm also watching to see if Leclerc and Max finally come together.

Looks like Ferrari have gone for a higher downforce setup this weekend. Look great in the sec-1 and sec-3. But IDK if that won't wear the tires down fast.

I would say the same, but differently: RB opted for a low downforce setup
Possibly a risky choice

[Gilles]

we said the same thing, seconds apart.

Right

[nani_s23]

I would say the same, but differently: RB opted for a low downforce setup
Possibly a risky choice

They did race sim in FP3 on mediums. Didn’t find any tyre deg.

[Gilles]

Analysis says Carlos' aid gave Charles 0.056s in the second run
Charles strongly thanked Carlos in all his statements, exaggerating the help to 2 tenths (the video and the telemetry do not say that)
Carlos did the opposite to minimize the importance of his help
And to the question asked if it would not be difficult for Charles to be alone facing 2 RB, he replied that it would be easier because he would not be there and was the fastest (which is not objectively proven)
Everyone is free to appreciate the mentality of our two drivers, what is certain is that modesty is not generalized

https://youtu.be/pAu5PcYvytw

[Gilles]

They did race sim in FP3 on mediums. Didn’t find any tyre deg.

Let's see today, i think that no team is quiet on this side at this time

[Jax]

Analysis says Carlos' aid gave Charles 0.056s in the second run
Charles strongly thanked Carlos in all his statements, exaggerating the help to 2 tenths (the video and the telemetry do not say that)
Carlos did the opposite to minimize the importance of his help
And to the question asked if it would not be difficult for Charles to be alone facing 2 RB, he replied that it would be easier because he would not be there and was the fastest (which is not objectively proven)
Everyone is free to appreciate the mentality of our two drivers, what is certain is that modesty is not generalized
[video]https://youtu.be/pAu5PcYvytw[/url]

I wholeheartedly agree with you. If there is one thing that separates Charles from the rest of them it's his humility and modesty.

[stefa]

Let's see today, i think that no team is quiet on this side at this time

Hope we got it right, and win this one!

[Brembo]

I wholeheartedly agree with you. If there is one thing that separates Charles from the rest of them it's his humility and modesty.

Charles' fans should also follow his humility and modesty and respect Carlos equally for all he does. WCCs are what really counts at the end. I remember Perez coming from 18th to get his win ! There's hope for Carlos!! :rotfl

[Jax]

Charles' fans should also follow his humility and modesty and respect Carlos equally for all he does. WCCs are what really counts at the end. I remember Perez coming from 18th to get his win ! There's hope for Carlos!! :rotfl

Not a Charles fan. I am a Ferrari fan. Cheers to Carlos winning from last. I wouldn't mind it a tiny bit.

[enjaybel3]

Tyre management will be tough for all teams. But, it's slightly easier with higher df.

[Gilles]

BREAKING NEWS: PAUL RICARD WILL NOT RETURN FOR THE 2023 CALENDER.

good riddance too. I also hated their "artistic" trophy.

I will soon have to zoom in to read your messages
I agree with you, the track is really bad and the trophy is an example of poor French taste

[Gilles]

Not a Charles fan. I am a Ferrari fan. Cheers to Carlos winning from last. I wouldn't mind it a tiny bit.

As a Ferrari fan, isn't more logical to simply hope for a Charles' win?

[paolo lalli]

The goal for the 2 remaining races before summer break is finish in front of max whomever that may be reduce the points deficit to him, and home in on him at the back end of the season, a totally doable situation.

[Greig]

As a Ferrari fan, isn't more logical to simply hope for a Charles' win?

He never said that he did not want Charles to win?

[nani_s23]

Helmut Marko on Ferrari engines:

“We saw that Ferrari had some engine problems, and with these high temperatures and this high full-throttle load, I think it would be risky if they ran the race at full pace.”

[Gilles]

He never said that he did not want Charles to win?

While he wouldn't mind Carlos winning from behind at all, that implies he wouldn't mind if it wasn't the Ferrari on pole that won, so Leclerc. It is therefore a strange reasoning in view of the drivers' championship but also with respect to Ferrari's result, as a team.
Isn't it incongruous that a Ferrari fan wants the (almost impossible) victory of our car on last row when we are lucky to have the other car on pole?
But how do you manage to intervene like this, you can understand my point of view without needing my explanations, is Brembo contagious here?

[Gilles]

Helmut Marko on Ferrari engines:

“We saw that Ferrari had some engine problems, and with these high temperatures and this high full-throttle load, I think it would be risky if they ran the race at full pace.”

He fears us, that’s a good sign
Let’s hope that the PU holds

[Greig]

While he wouldn't mind Carlos winning from behind at all, that implies he wouldn't mind if it wasn't the Ferrari on pole that won, so Leclerc. It is therefore a strange reasoning in view of the drivers' championship but also with respect to Ferrari as a team.
Isn't it incongruous that a Ferrari fan wants the (almost impossible) victory of our car on last row when we are lucky to have the other car on pole?
But how do you manage to intervene like this, you can understand my point of view without needing my explanations, is Brembo contagious here?

You are over thinking it....

[Gilles]

You are over thinking it....

Maybe, but in Canada, I would hope that Carlos would win, if not for him, at least for the team, any other wish would have been weird, no?

[Brembo]

While he wouldn't mind Carlos winning from behind at all, that implies he wouldn't mind if it wasn't the Ferrari on pole that won, so Leclerc. It is therefore a strange reasoning in view of the drivers' championship but also with respect to Ferrari's result, as a team.
Isn't it incongruous that a Ferrari fan wants the (almost impossible) victory of our car on last row when we are lucky to have the other car on pole?
But how do you manage to intervene like this, you can understand my point of view without needing my explanations, is Brembo contagious here?

I find it congruous to think Ferrari finishes 1,2 .

[Jax]

You are over thinking it....

Indeed he is. How about a 1, 2 Ferrari with Charles 1st and Carlos second? Would that please you @gilles? :-)

[Gilles]

Q3 microsectors
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/image-40-600x287.png

[Gilles]

Indeed he is. How about a 1, 2 Ferrari with Charles 1st and Carlos second? Would that please you @gilles? :-)

Of course, yes!
I’m sorry but I’m a little sensitive to criticism about Charles
Am I allowed to say it’s Brembo’s fault?:-)