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tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 13:13
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stefa
24th July 2022, 13:27
Hope for win and great results from CS

Greig
24th July 2022, 13:30
Charles having a moment on the lap to the grid....

gump1480
24th July 2022, 13:37
Charles having a moment on the lap to the grid....

What happened? Did he spin?

Jax
24th July 2022, 13:39
Predictions : leclerc verstappen sainz

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 13:42
What happened? Did he spin?

During installation lap, he did slide & went over the kerbs.

stefa
24th July 2022, 13:45
During installation lap, he did slide & went over the kerbs.

Hopefuly nothing damaged

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 13:45
Ferrari is not using the full power of its engines this weekend

@Smilextech

stefa
24th July 2022, 13:45
During installation lap, he did slide & went over the kerbs.

Hopefuly nothing damaged

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 13:45
Ferrari is not using the full power of its engines this weekend

@Smilextech

stefa
24th July 2022, 13:46
Ferrari is not using the full power of its engines this weekend

@Smilextech

Hope that will not backfire at us on that long straights

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 13:47
VER uses more track but has more max speed. Today the challenge is + km / h on the straight Vs - meters of cornering distance for LEC. It's hard to say how it will go, certainly making only 1 stop will not be easy at all. Track temperature currently measured by Pirelli is 55'C

@Giuliano Duchessa

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 13:50
Hopefuly nothing damaged

Seems like no damage.

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 13:51
“We've got fresher components and hopefully there will be no problems"

@Mattia Binotto on Sky F1

Greig
24th July 2022, 13:55
Think the straight line speed will give Max the win sadly, but let's hope his tyre deg is terrible :-D

stefa
24th July 2022, 13:57
Think the straight line speed will give Max the win sadly, but let's hope his tyre deg is terrible :-D

Track temperarure nearly 60C

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 13:59
Track temperarure nearly 60C

55C currently by Pirelli.

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:00
I think three attempts with the DRS, Max takes the lead.

The engine fragility will cost Charles the race win.

I hope I’m wrong.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:01
55C currently by Pirelli.

However it is hot as hell!

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:03
Paul saying hamilton "deserves" a win? Why does he!?

drax
24th July 2022, 14:03
More than anything hoping for no mechanical failures

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:03
However it is hot as hell!

agreed......tire deg and tire strat will be key. I don't see a 1 stopper.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:05
Hard tires for CS, bad choice

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:06
Sainz not making much progress ATM.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:07
Hard tires for CS, bad choice

CS starts picking up places

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:07
Sainz not making much progress ATM.

He's P17 right now.

edit: He gets Gasly and Bottas as well.

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:08
He's P17 right now.

edit: He gets Gasly and Bottas as well.

Yep started his charge now.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:09
With DRS CL will be sitting duck

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:10
Don't see how CL will defend from MV DRS?!

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:11
Sainz up to p14, Max pressing now hope his tyres burn

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:11
Looking like it'll be an easy pass for Max unless he can keep out or DRS.

ntukza
24th July 2022, 14:11
This is why I don't like pole position anymore. I much prefer we qualify 2nd.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:11
P13 Carlos good progress now.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:13
Charles struggling now, only a matter of time.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:13
We are already struggling

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:14
Pole, except Monaco and Hungaroring worth nothing

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:16
Pole, except Monaco and Hungaroring worth nothing

It would be worth a lot if our top speed was decent. It holds us back and makes our life difficult.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:16
It would be worth a lot if our top speed was decent. It holds us back and makes our life difficult.

Top speed is fine, we have gone high downforce which ain't working.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:17
P12 Carlos.

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:17
We need to fix our speed deficit.

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:18
Charles doing a masterful job. I’m surprised he’s maintained the lead this long with such a huge top speed deficit.

gump1480
24th July 2022, 14:19
We need to fix our speed deficit.

We need our engine reliability to be fixed...that's all what is holding us back.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:19
Top speed is fine, we have gone high downforce which ain't working.

Well we are doing it again and again, so probably our car works best with high DF setup. That's why I am saying we are lacking top speed.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:20
Charles told to do more lifting and coast.....

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:20
Why can't we just have an easy race/win one weekend? My heart is beating like a boom box. :-(

gump1480
24th July 2022, 14:20
So now CL laptimes are slower than LH

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:22
CS stuck in DRS train

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:22
Plan B for Charles....Carlos up to P11.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:23
Hope MV will overcook tires/engine, whatever!

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:23
Plan B for Charles....Carlos up to P11.

Vamos Carlos

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:24
Out of DRS

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:24
Looks like Charles is on the verge of breaking the DRS now. Better pace.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:25
P10 Carlos

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:25
Charles the tyre whisperer

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:25
Carlos has the highest speed trap, 344km

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:26
Carlos doing a great job to get into the points.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:26
Cmon Charles.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:26
CL out of MV DRS

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:26
Come on boys! Let's show them!

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:27
It's a shame that the DRS train makes Carlos fall out of Verstappen's pit window.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:28
CL front right, some lines on it

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:28
Looks like blistering on Charles’ front right

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:28
REPLAY shows a little blister on the the right front of Leclerc's tyre.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:30
Verstappen pits. Ferrari must respond.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:30
Max in

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:30
MV pit

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:31
Can’t allow the undercut here. Eeeek

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:32
Mv pitted

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:32
WTH?!

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:33
Ferrari!???!!?

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:33
Charles bins it....

drax
24th July 2022, 14:33
Wth

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:33
I’m done with this.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:33
WTH?!


Ferrari!???!!?

Leclerc told that the hard tyres are 2 tenths slower than predicted and are overheating

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:33
Season over. I hate this sport.

DJTaurus
24th July 2022, 14:33
Why do i loose my Sundays…..

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:33
Holy f... I don't even...

ntukza
24th July 2022, 14:33
Ah great. Leclerc out.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:33
2018 all over again!!!!

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:34
Disaster!!!!

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:34
Not sure I'll even give the rest of this absolute shitstain of a season a watch at this rate.

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:34
What the hell happened!!!!!

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:34
Great job!!!!:furious

ferrari1.8t
24th July 2022, 14:34
Season over friends.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:34
UNBELIEVABLE by Leclerc!!!

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:35
Oh great penalty for Carlos now as well unsafe release there.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:35
And I go next week to Hungaroring?!?!?

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:35
Season over friends.

Definitelly

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:35
Well that's Sunday ruined then!

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:35
Lewis gets a free stop.

patrese86
24th July 2022, 14:35
Dropped it pushing too hard

Sainz is going to get a penalty for that unsafe release too

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:36
Big mistake by Charles

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:36
Well that's Sunday ruined then!

That's season ruined!

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:36
Lewis gets a free stop.

Luckiest git alive.

drax
24th July 2022, 14:36
Think it was a mistake

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:36
That's season ruined!

Pretty much.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:36
Is that the throttle again?!?!?!?!?!?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

SFTifoso
24th July 2022, 14:37
There goes the championship

ferrari1.8t
24th July 2022, 14:37
Clown show. Should have stopped him the lap after Verstappen.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:37
Man, Ferrari can screw the pooch in 1 lap for both drivers......

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:37
Pretty much.

It's over!!!! This can not be overturned!

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:37
He has these very costly mistakes in him.

gump1480
24th July 2022, 14:37
It was a throttle problem....again it seems

TonyRizza
24th July 2022, 14:37
throttle stuck????

drax
24th July 2022, 14:37
Again the throttle pedal ?

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:37
Clown show. Should have stopped him the lap after Verstappen.

Yeap! But that is Ferrari. If there is something that they can fudge up, they will!

Aziz
24th July 2022, 14:37
Throttle again, ffs

Hornet
24th July 2022, 14:38
Did Charles mention stuck throttle?

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:38
He has these very costly mistakes in him.

His throttle got stuck again like in Austria based on his radio

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:38
What reliability again!?!?!?

faloupas
24th July 2022, 14:38
Focus now on 2023.Definetely a step forward this year but team and drivers not ready enough.

Ferrari312T4
24th July 2022, 14:39
It's really over. And it's a gas pedal issue....AGAIN.

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:39
His throttle got stuck again like in Austria based on his radio

Take it back then. The team should probably look at trying to do something to fix that :roll

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 14:39
1. Ferrari not putting him big mistake
2. Leclerc another mistake
3. Ferrari pit strategy slow stop for Sainz
4. Ferrari pit not reactive once again.


In total ferrari aren’t ready for championships.

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:40
Binotto needs to be at a Modena job centre tomorrow morning.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:40
His throttle got stuck again like in Austria based on his radio

He said no throttle when trying to get out barrier?

Ferrarichamp
24th July 2022, 14:40
we need a Max DNF

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:40
Carlos p6 but prob going to get a penalty.

ferrari1.8t
24th July 2022, 14:40
Focus now on 2023.Definetely a step forward this year but team and drivers not ready enough.

Good luck, 2023 is already earmarked for Mercedes and hamilton with the bespoke regulations.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:40
Ahh... those glory days with Brawn, Todt and Schumacher... That will never come again. So glad I was witness of those great times.

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:41
Binotto needs to be at a Modena job centre tomorrow morning.

Can't believe they didn't bother to remedy the throttle thing :furious

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:41
Looks like it was not Charles’ fault.

Another throttle problem.

Season over. Yet again.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:41
Max on 3 lap older hards.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:41
We truly are the best team to race against to. Every time in the last 14 years we were fighting someone for championship we lost to them. The competition has to love us.

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:41
This team is full of amateurs, can't fix the reliability, unbelievable!
I feel for Charles once again, he is such a talented driver and loosing all the races that he is supposed to win due to very poor reliability.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:41
He said no throttle when trying to get out barrier?

Ok, my bad, sorry.

JPZ
24th July 2022, 14:42
Don't know the point of watching the rest of this race now.

Throttle pedal again.

Season challenge pretty much over.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:42
This team is full of amateurs, can't fix the reliability, unbelievable!
I feel for Charles once again, he is such a talented driver and loosing all the races that he is supposed to win due to very poor reliability.

He reminds me much of Jean Alesi. Great talent and ruined by Ferrari

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:42
A mistake or a throttle problem which is it? Not watching anymore.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:42
A mistake or a throttle problem which is it? Not watching anymore.

We are yet to find out.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:42
Don't know the point of watching the rest of this race now.

Throttle pedal again.

Season challenge pretty much over.

TV already switched off

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:43
TV already switched off

P5 Carlos....

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:43
And if it's Leclerc's mistake that he disappointed me. I thought he grew out of these stupid mistakes he used to be making. I was looking forward to this weekend so much :/

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:43
He couldn't go off throttle? Unacceptable if the same thing occurred again today.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:44
5 sec penalty for Sainz, pathetic.

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:45
5second penalty for Carlos.

bonzo
24th July 2022, 14:45
5sec Sainz

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:45
If this Ferrari car was managed by redbull pitwall and team, it would have wrapped up both championships almost by now.Gutted right now really, my heart sink in once again.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:45
5 sec peanalty to crown this weekend up

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:45
P5 Carlos....

As long as MV wins and take 25 points agains CL, it doesn't matter, as CS can not win this one, as long as MV is out there

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:45
If this Ferrari car was managed by redbull pitwall and team, it would have wrapped up both championships almost by now.Gutted right now really, my heart sink in once again.

Exactly

patrese86
24th July 2022, 14:45
One mistake just throws the whole team off. No composure.

stasera
24th July 2022, 14:45
the god doesnt like us

Ferrari312T4
24th July 2022, 14:45
We made a very fast egg.

JPZ
24th July 2022, 14:46
5 second penalty now for Sainz.

So that's now over too.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:46
5 second time penalty for Scuderia Ferrari's mistake(Sainz) in the pitlane and sending him into the path of the Williams.

Ferrarichamp
24th July 2022, 14:46
let's be honest though, we started the season well with 2 wins out of 3, but after that the team faded quite badly.

bonzo
24th July 2022, 14:46
If things just cannot get any worse for Ferrari -they will.

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:46
You're not going straight on into the barrier at that corner with that runoff in the dry unless something is wrong with either the throttle or the brake. In the event of a mistake you're spinning sideways there.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:47
the god doesnt like us

There is no God, luck or anything like that. It just engeenering

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:47
5 second time penalty for Scuderia Ferrari's mistake(Sainz) in the pitlane and sending him into the path of the Williams.

I've never known a team to lack composure as much as this.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:47
One mistake just throws the whole team off. No composure.

I'm not sure that was a mistake. His tyres were lighted up and looked like the car was still on throttle when he applied brakes.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:47
let's be honest though, we started the season well with 2 wins out of 3, but after that the team faded quite badly.

Reliability aside we are in a good place considering where we were last season.

JPZ
24th July 2022, 14:48
Basically just have to hope for some race wins now and not really think of championship.

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:48
You're not going straight on into the barrier at that corner with that runoff in the dry unless something is wrong with either the throttle or the brake. In the event of a mistake you're spinning sideways there.

Excatly, there was no mistake there by Charles but poor reliability.

patrese86
24th July 2022, 14:48
Christ even Sainz is more on the ball than the pitwall.

stefa
24th July 2022, 14:48
Basically just have to hope for some race wins now and not really think of championship.

Championship is OVER!

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:48
I'm not sure that was a mistake. His tyres were lighted up and looked like the car was still on throttle when he applied brakes.

If it turns out to be the same issue as last time then that's a new level of incompetence from this team.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:49
Reliability aside we are in a good place considering where we were last season.

To win first you must finish.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:49
Reliability aside we are in a good place considering where we were last season.

It's not just the reliability......the pit wall needs an upgrade as well....for like the longest time.

Whatsyourangle
24th July 2022, 14:49
I did turn the computer off after CL crash. What a lousy team. From A to Z. A total failure.

patrese86
24th July 2022, 14:49
I'm not sure that was a mistake. His tyres were lighted up and looked like the car was still on throttle when he applied brakes.

What I mean is when one thing goes wrong, whether it's driver error or a mechanical issue everyone loses there heads.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:49
To win first you must finish.

I would rather this than last 2 seasons...reliability will come.

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:50
Charles’ most dangerous adversary is Ferrari and it’s not one I think he can beat from within.

It’s a sad sad situation.

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:50
If it turns out to be the same issue as last time then that's a new level of incompetence from this team.

I am quite certain it was that clutch issue once again.

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 14:50
I would rather this than last 2 seasons...reliability will come.

Not in time to win this championship. It’s too late for that.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:50
To win first you must finish.

"In order to finish first, you must first finish."

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:50
I would rather this than last 2 seasons...reliability will come.

I had more fun last year than this one. Hell, even the livery was good.

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:51
Shame team screwed Cs Pitstop amd gifted him with a 5 seconds penalty, he is flying out there

faloupas
24th July 2022, 14:51
let's be honest though, we started the season well with 2 wins out of 3, but after that the team faded quite badly.
As always...same story as 2017,2018...
The sad thing is that this year the car is good enough to get at least on championship . We are just not capable.

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 14:51
Not in time to win this championship. It’s too late for that.

I tend to agree this was our chance before the return of formula merc next season.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:51
I had more fun last year than this one.

I will check if you did after the race :-)

patrese86
24th July 2022, 14:52
I would rather this than last 2 seasons...reliability will come.

We might find reliability but there is no guarantee we can find more performance relative to Mercedes and Red Bull. Mercedes will get stronger next season and we know Red Bull are strong, they built a great car whilst still fighting for the championship last year.

This season was a good opportunity considering Mercedes dropped the ball and we had a good start.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:52
Not in time to win this championship. It’s too late for that.

Certainly is now unless Red Bull run into serious trouble.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:52
I would rather this than last 2 seasons...reliability will come.

Will we be able to build such a strong car next year when we'll not have the time and wind tunnel advantage we had going into this year though? This was a huge chance to do something special this year yet we threw it away.

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:53
Losing while leading is a lot more anger-inducing than finishing P5 because someone else did a better job. Charles would've won this race easy on the one-stop.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:53
We might find reliability but there is no guarantee we can find more performance relative to Mercedes and Red Bull. Mercedes will get stronger next season and we know Red Bull are strong, they built a great car whilst still fighting for the championship last year.

This season was a good opportunity considering Mercedes dropped the ball and we had a good start.

Performance wise we are up there, nothing to suggest we would not remain to do so.

bonzo
24th July 2022, 14:53
Charles’ most dangerous adversary is Ferrari and it’s not one I think he can beat from within.

It’s a sad sad situation.

Same applies for Seb and Alonso in past years. Massa as well.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:53
No sure Sainz has the pace to overwhelm Max and Lewis. He can't even get pass Russell.

hakanabi
24th July 2022, 14:53
I would rather this than last 2 seasons...reliability will come.

We will loose second in cc by the time they fix reliability and that's a big IF, if they can fix all of it. They even admitted that they don't know when they will come to bottom of these reliability issues.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:53
Will we be able to build such a strong car next year when we'll not have the time and wind tunnel advantage we had going into this year though? This was a huge chance to do something special this year yet we threw it away.

Yes.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:53
"In order to finish first, you must first finish."

Yeah, true. I should have used the quote.

drax
24th July 2022, 14:54
Yes this is devastating but I agree we have been improving consistently for the last 3 seasons. I remember 97,98 and 99 it was also pretty devastating. I do think we have the best package.

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:55
We ain't winning jack diddly squat so long as Binotto is there.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:55
This is a 2 stopper race

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 14:55
Nice job Carlos

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:55
Sainz p4 but the penalty...

ferrari1.8t
24th July 2022, 14:56
Performance wise we are up there, nothing to suggest we would not remain to do so.

Bespoke Merc regulations…fia-Toto corruption.

This was our year and we blew it.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:56
No sure Sainz has the pace to overwhelm Max and Lewis. He can't even get pass Russell.

Russell has a low downforce rear wing....He's gonna be tough to pass.

JPZ
24th July 2022, 14:56
Yes this is devastating but I agree we have been improving consistently for the last 3 seasons. I remember 97,98 and 99 it was also pretty devastating. I do think we have the best package.

At least Ferrari have an excellent car concept to develop on.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:57
Yes this is devastating but I agree we have been improving consistently for the last 3 seasons. I remember 97,98 and 99 it was also pretty devastating. I do think we have the best package.

Yes, there was reliability issues, but incompetence was missing. They were gradually improving.

I'm not sure we'll have the fastest car 2-3 years from now on. Look how well we started in 2017 and look how it ended in 2021

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 14:57
Yes this is devastating but I agree we have been improving consistently for the last 3 seasons. I remember 97,98 and 99 it was also pretty devastating. I do think we have the best package.

At least then we had the combination of best driver, best team boss and best raceday operations. Not to mention the best reliability. We might have the first but for the rest we're as bad as Minardi :rotfl

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:57
Russell has a low downforce rear wing....He's gonna be tough to pass.

Sainz still has 23kmph advantage with the DRS. But Russell is pulling away in the sector 1.

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:57
The team of 97-99 is on another level. Yes, there was reliability issues, but incompetence was missing. They were gradually improving.

I'm not sure we'll have the fastest car 2-3 years from now on. Look how well we started in 2017 and look how it ended in 2021

Due to the "illegal engine" though....

Greig
24th July 2022, 14:58
At least then we had the combination of best driver, best team boss and best raceday operations. Not to mention the best reliability. We might have the first but for the rest we're as bad as Minardi :rotfl

We had plenty of issue back then also...

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 14:58
Due to the "illegal engine" though....

Even with the "illegal engine", the 2019 car had no answer to the Mercedes

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 14:59
Yes, there was reliability issues, but incompetence was missing. They were gradually improving.

I'm not sure we'll have the fastest car 2-3 years from now on. Look how well we started in 2017 and look how it ended in 2021

Yes that’s my worry. There is no consistency from this year.

Not sure we will have strong car like this down the line.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 14:59
Sainz still has 23kmph advantage with the DRS. But Russell is pulling away in the sector 1.

True......Sainz with a 5 sec. stop and go penalty.

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 15:00
True......Sainz with a 5 sec. stop and go penalty.

It’s not stop & go. It’s 5sec time penalty I assume. Plz correct me if I’m wrong.

A SC now would be helpful for us

nani_s23
24th July 2022, 15:00
True......Sainz with a 5 sec. stop and go penalty.

It’s not stop & go. It’s 5sec time penalty I assume. Plz correct me if I’m wrong.

A SC now would be helpful for us

ferrari1.8t
24th July 2022, 15:00
All isn’t lost yet…let’s not forget hamilton is the luckiest driver ever in the history of f1. Verstappen’s engine will probably blow and gift hamilton a win. Then sky will go absolutely crazy…

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 15:01
We had plenty of issue back then also...

The car was too slow, especially over one lap but generally points were maximized which almost brought it home three years running. Yes the brake failure at Silverstone and forgotten tyre in the pits at the Nürburgring aside. Reliabilty standards were much lower back then and Ferrari were the least bad on that front.

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 15:01
This is now three (3)car failures for Charles while leading.

Abysmal failure of a team. It’s like Kimi and McLaren in 2005.

bonzo
24th July 2022, 15:02
Pit wall even think Sai can finish the race with current tires.Pathetic!! Stupidity at its best.

drax
24th July 2022, 15:02
I am sorry but who built the car ? Did we buy it from Red Bull ? Give the team some credit, yes we still have a lot to improve but looking back at the previous 2 years we have improved consistently, barring the rule changes that hopefully will not happen there is no reason to believe we won’t improve again next season. And this season let’s keep fighting for wins

Schumiklub
24th July 2022, 15:04
So even if Charles didn't crash a big chance his pit stop would have looked the same as Carlos'. I just can't. This is depressing. We can't catch a break. Either technical issues or drivers making a mistake.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:04
Yes that’s my worry. There is no consistency from this year.

Not sure we will have strong car like this down the line.

That's why statements like "we're not targeting any championships this year" sounds rather hilarious and equally clownish to me.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 15:04
I am sorry but who built the car ? Did we buy it from Red Bull ? Give the team some credit, yes we still have a lot to improve but looking back at the previous 2 years we have improved consistently, barring the rule changes that hopefully will not happen there is no reason to believe we won’t improve again next season. And this season let’s keep fighting for wins

We had a full 1 year advantage to competition as we ignored last season. Sure we did good job, but not good enough. And next year we will not have that advantage.

Tifoso Svedese
24th July 2022, 15:04
I am sorry but who built the car ? Did we buy it from Red Bull ? Give the team some credit, yes we still have a lot to improve but looking back at the previous 2 years we have improved consistently, barring the rule changes that hopefully will not happen there is no reason to believe we won’t improve again next season. And this season let’s keep fighting for wins

No point building a fast car if it can injure Charles or Carlos at any moment by not stopping :roll This could've been a broken foot if at a normal track.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:05
Even I can realize that Sainz needs a pitstop. Surely Ferrari and it's "strategists" must know that mediums will drop off earlier than the hards.

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 15:06
No point building a fast car if it can injure Charles or Carlos at any moment by not stopping :roll This could've been a broken foot.

WHAT IF Ferrari mirrored Max's pit stop??? Would Leclerc have binned it??? Was it the throttle getting stuck??

Ferrari312T4
24th July 2022, 15:07
It's true though, our car has performance. But it's annoying though to lose points while not having this gas pedal thing solved. But it's in the bin now. However, we have a solid car and our updates seem to work. Priority now is the throttle issue.

Ferrarichamp
24th July 2022, 15:09
Yes this is devastating but I agree we have been improving consistently for the last 3 seasons. I remember 97,98 and 99 it was also pretty devastating. I do think we have the best package.

1999 was pretty good, we won the constructor's.

stefa
24th July 2022, 15:10
CS will need to stop once again

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:10
It's true though, our car has performance. But it's annoying though to lose points while not having this gas pedal thing solved. But it's in the bin now. However, we have a solid car and our updates seem to work. Priority now is the throttle issue.

We are not 1sec/lap faster than the RB. We are nearly equal, maybe with an advantage of a tenth over the Red Bull. So we need to capitalize our potential, losing 75 points is not a minor thing to shrug off.

Aziz
24th July 2022, 15:10
This team is cursed with idiots who can't fix a pedal

458 Italia
24th July 2022, 15:10
CS will need to stop once again

Will be a loooong stop with his penalty added on.

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:11
Carlos be as well staying out now.

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:12
These clowns....Carlos needs a pit stop. Otherwise he'll lost out to Russell as well.

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:13
These clowns....Carlos needs a pit stop. Otherwise he'll lost out to Russell as well.

Stopping will lose that anyway.....

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:13
Plan D for Destruction?

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 15:13
Sainz wants to stop, but Ferrari wants him to stay out on blistered front rights.

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:14
What a move Carlos....pit wall losing it LOL

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 15:14
OH MY GOD! OUR PIT WALL IS RETARDED!

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:14
That was a good move.

stefa
24th July 2022, 15:14
Ferrari pit wall :rotfl

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:15
This will destroy his tyres

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:15
Russell punts Perez lol

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:15
Carlos in.....

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 15:15
Everyone and I mean everyone sitting their butts on our pit wall should be taken their wage out of them and given back only when they finally perform. This is crazy.

JPZ
24th July 2022, 15:15
Pit radio disaster.

stefa
24th July 2022, 15:15
And now CS pits

Ferrari312T4
24th July 2022, 15:15
I like binotto but not in this role

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:15
Finally pits. Should've pitted 5 laps ago.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 15:16
Umm... why are we pitting?

jgonzalesm6
24th July 2022, 15:16
Ferrari telling Sainz to pit WHILE HE'S PASSING PEREZ!!!! JEEEEEEZUS FERRARI!!!!

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:16
P3 to P9 well done......

Greig
24th July 2022, 15:16
Ferrari telling Sainz to pit WHILE HE'S PASSING PEREZ!!!! JEEEEEEZUS FERRARI!!!!

Radio is delayed....

Hornet
24th July 2022, 15:17
Did we really have to pit though, its way too late already

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:17
All that waiting around means he's now in the DRS train behind Ricciardo. He will clear them off easily, but will also lose time

paneristi
24th July 2022, 15:17
It's true though, our car has performance. But it's annoying though to lose points while not having this gas pedal thing solved. But it's in the bin now. However, we have a solid car and our updates seem to work. Priority now is the throttle issue.
Relax…there’s always next year… typical Ferrari’s management mentality :Hmm

JPZ
24th July 2022, 15:17
Only hope now is safety car.

Riccardog
24th July 2022, 15:17
Ferrari wall is a f£#% up!

WS6TransAm01
24th July 2022, 15:17
Ferrari gave up a P5 for a P9?

What is happening with these guys? This is just pathetic.

Kyss4k
24th July 2022, 15:18
Radio is delayed....

Not that much as Sainz was screaming at them NOT NOW NOT NOW

patrese86
24th July 2022, 15:18
If we stay out the worst we finish is 5th, now I'm not sure we finish fifth

paneristi
24th July 2022, 15:18
Binotto you sux

JPZ
24th July 2022, 15:18
Not that much as Sainz was screaming at them NOT NOW NOT NOW

When we think it can't get worse...

stefa
24th July 2022, 15:19
When we think it can't get worse...

In Ferrari case, there is always new low!

tifosi1993
24th July 2022, 15:19
At this rate, even the Merc will overtake us in the WCC standing.