View Full Version : FIA Finalises 2026 F1 engine rules - and porposing changes for 2023
Greig
16th August 2022, 18:30
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-fia-world-motor-sport-council-approves-power-unit-regulations-for.495Jt6I1pAAsytVVYjz2Z5.html
(https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-fia-world-motor-sport-council-approves-power-unit-regulations-for.495Jt6I1pAAsytVVYjz2Z5.html)Also
2022 and 2023 porpoising and roll hoop regulations approved
The WMSC also approved changes to the 2022 and 2023 Technical Regulations, designed to address both the issue of aerodynamic porpoising and of safety standards for roll hoops.
With regards to porpoising, it has now been approved that from this month's Belgian Grand Prix until the end of the season, there will be changes to re-define the stiffness requirements of the plank and skids around the thickness measurement holes on the cars – in addition to the changes already signalled by a Technical Directive issued to the teams (https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.tech-tuesday-understanding-the-technical-directive-on-floors-that-will-come.JGEsskbNaf5cpMy2uijHP.html) ahead of the summer break.
From 2023, meanwhile, the following changes will be made:
The floor edges will be raised by 15mm
The diffuser throat height will be raised
The diffuser edge stiffness will be increased
An additional sensor will be mandated to monitor the porpoising phenomenon more effectively
FerrariF60
16th August 2022, 20:12
So the question now remains, who will benefit from all these floor changes??? My bet is on Merc….they played their cards right and got their wishes…. Thank you FIA
Tony
17th August 2022, 01:23
Binotto said it was too late to make changes and any changes proposed now would be unfair... he also said he would fight any changes. My gut feeling is that Mercedes already knew about this for sometime.
FerrariF60
17th August 2022, 01:43
Binotto said it was too late to make changes and any changes proposed now would be unfair... he also said he would fight any changes. My gut feeling is that Mercedes already knew about this for sometime.
WHY you may ask??? is because Merc and FIA go hand in hand....they desperately want Luise to win that 8th WDC to break Michael records.....so g sad if you ask me
Tony
17th August 2022, 04:26
WHY you may ask??? is because Merc and FIA go hand in hand....they desperately want Luise to win that 8th WDC to break Michael records.....so sad if you ask me
I think Hamilton is getting closer to forced retirement... there are a lot of rumors going on about this for it to be just sensationalism...
aroutis
17th August 2022, 06:57
While Ferrari (one way or the other) was saying that they would fight proposed changes, in the end, they did (as usual) , nothing.
We need to wait what we'll see at Spa, but I suspect that we're in for a big disappointment.
paolo lalli
17th August 2022, 09:29
We will be just fine in Spa engine upgrade will be there more powerful reliability in question but who cares let's throw everything in for the 2nd half let's just say boom or bust.Mercedes will still be behind sure they have closed but the margin was way to large to suddenly upset the top two teams .
FerrariF60
17th August 2022, 13:04
We will be just fine in Spa engine upgrade will be there more powerful reliability in question but who cares let's throw everything in for the 2nd half let's just say boom or bust.Mercedes will still be behind sure they have closed but the margin was way to large to suddenly upset the top two teams .
I’m afraid it’s already BUST for Ferrari this season.... Maxipad has 80 points advantage and all he needs to do is come in second for the remaining races with Charles winning them all and he will STILL win the championship
Of course there are reliability that could hamper them, but as of late it was Ferrari that had the worse reliability...so yeah, I think I’d have more chances to win 6/49 than Charles has to win the WDC this year
Ferrari better concentrate on 2023 now with the unexpected rules changes....gotta thank Merc and FIA for that...
Greig
17th August 2022, 18:19
While Ferrari (one way or the other) was saying that they would fight proposed changes, in the end, they did (as usual) , nothing.
We need to wait what we'll see at Spa, but I suspect that we're in for a big disappointment.
Lot's of rumours that Perez has been running a spa legal floor and that is why is pace has dropped.
SilverSpeed
17th August 2022, 18:40
That's what's happens when you stop cheating...
jgonzalesm6
17th August 2022, 18:40
2026 Formula regulations simplified from various sites.
2026 F1 power unit regs are out. Summary, the same layout and power output (~1000hp).
But new; eFuel, less fuel flow, and greater ERS-K, to compensate for the loss of combustion power, the ERS-H & Variable trumpets.
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1559584940538339331/photo/1
This means we keep the power, but more will come from the hybrid system, not quite 50/50.
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1559584956548059137/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1559584956548059137/photo/2
Without the MGUH and variable trumpets the combustion engine will be more laggy. With the reduced fuel flow exhaust-flaming hot antilag strategies won't be practical. Cold antilag and using the added output from the MGUK will be required.
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1559584969659408391/photo/1
Energy recovery will be lost from the lack of the MGUH, which means everything needs to be recovered from the rear axle under braking. Rear brakes will hardly be necessary.
https://twitter.com/ScarbsTech/status/1559584986877001728/photo/1
Another graphic.
https://twitter.com/EngineMode11/status/1559813786634227713/photo/1
F1's 2026 power unit regulations.
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/1559869062083231746/photo/1
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/1559869062083231746/photo/2
aroutis
18th August 2022, 08:55
That's what's happens when you stop cheating...
There was no cheating.
JPZ
18th August 2022, 08:57
That's what's happens when you stop cheating...
Who was cheating?
Aziz
18th August 2022, 09:45
While Ferrari (one way or the other) was saying that they would fight proposed changes, in the end, they did (as usual) , nothing.
We need to wait what we'll see at Spa, but I suspect that we're in for a big disappointment.
They deserve all the **** they are eating. Lethargic team
SilverSpeed
18th August 2022, 16:17
There was no cheating.
So RB wasn't ? Wierd that Perez lost pace with a new legal floor not ? :-D
aroutis
23rd August 2022, 12:48
So RB wasn't ? Wierd that Perez lost pace with a new legal floor not ? :-D
I hate being put to the defence of RBR.
But at one point people need to realize the difference between CHEATING and exploiting a LOOPHOLE.
That's it for now. You need more explainations, I am here for you.
Riccardog
24th August 2022, 08:53
I hate being put to the defence of RBR.
But at one point people need to realize the difference between CHEATING and exploiting a LOOPHOLE.
That's it for now. You need more explainations, I am here for you.
@Aroutis, you may need to draw them a picture.... :lol:lol:lol
aroutis
24th August 2022, 10:55
@Aroutis, you may need to draw them a picture.... :lol:lol:lol
:lol
SilverSpeed
24th August 2022, 16:41
When Ferrari was using the engine 'loophole' they said we were cheating.
That's why I said that but it was meant to be sarcastic.
Tifoso
24th August 2022, 19:07
I think Hamilton is getting closer to forced retirement... there are a lot of rumors going on about this for it to be just sensationalism...
I think he’s bored. Time to get out. :-)
Cavallino
25th August 2022, 06:30
Who was cheating?
"That's what happens when you stop cheating"
is a reference to when Ferrari was bending the rules in 2019 and then the technical directives came out and our pace drops.
If indeed Maxipad's pace drops to that of Perez, it will be so sweet to watch him eat his words. :pray
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