2022 Belgian Grand Prix - Race Thread

[tifosi1993]

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[jgonzalesm6]

Watch Sainz hit the anti-stall yet again.

[FerrariF60]

Watch Sainz hit the anti-stall yet again.

lol

[stefa]

Clear sky and sunny

[stefa]

Ambient 21C
Track 35C

[ferrari1.8t]

Carlos the only one on softs in the front…:Hmm

[stefa]

CS on used soft

[drax]

Clean start please

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis is out of the race.....yes.

[stefa]

SC

[jgonzalesm6]

Max is 8th on lap 2.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Yeah we ain't winning this but maybe a 2-3?

[Greig]

Looked like Charles had a good scrap with Max.

[jgonzalesm6]

Latifi takes out Bottas.....safety car.

[patrese86]

That safety car is a terrible one for Sainz. He can't win now.

[ferrari1.8t]

Waaaaa Crofty so sad about hamilton. Screw you Crofty! Best news of the day…lol

Let’s go Charles and Carlos!

[elnano14]

Chaos already. Luckily our boys stayed out of trouble lol

[stefa]

FA on radio!!!! :rotfl

[elnano14]

That safety car is a terrible one for Sainz. He can't win now.

No really, the SC could help him save the softs

[ferrari1.8t]

Alonso lol “this guy only knows how to start if he’s in first” speaking of hamilton lol ahah

[elnano14]

Lol my man Nando roasting Lewis haha

[Rishu]

Hamilton trying to repeat Silverstone 2021, this time in tears

[stefa]

CL pit now!?!?!
He cannot catch a break

[patrese86]

Oh this is a joke

[ferrari1.8t]

Problem with Charles? Can’t catch a break man

[hakanabi]

Alonso: Yeah what am idiot, this guy only knows how to drive when he starts from first.

[Tifoso Svedese]

At least that means Leclerc can double-stint mediums to the flag while the guys ahead can crash each other.

[jgonzalesm6]

Alonso lol “this guy only knows how to start if he’s in first” speaking of hamilton lol ahah

"What an idiot! Closing the door from the outside.

"We had a mega start but this guy only knows how to drive starting first.”

[Greig]

Tear off inside brake duct for Charles

[WS6TransAm01]

Debris in the brake cooling duct. Bah

[Greig]

Charles asking for 1 stop from now

[ferrari1.8t]

No luck for Charles. Unbelievable…can’t catch a break

[hakanabi]

Tear off inside brake duct for Charles

One of the unluckiest drivers in f1, can't catch a break.

[ferrari1.8t]

Where can Charles finish now realistically?

[Greig]

Max 6th already lol

[Lesky]

Hamilton penalty for next race incoming?

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[jgonzalesm6]

Max up to 6th place on lap 6.

[Greig]

5th soon to be 4th

[ferrari1.8t]

Max 6th already lol

5th.

[stefa]

5th.
4th

[ferrari1.8t]

Lec still in 16. What a disaster.

[hakanabi]

Looks like redbull has the package that mercs had for so many years. They are mega! :-(

[stefa]

4th

3rd

[WS6TransAm01]

Charles stuck now. Not going anywhere.

[stefa]

Unfortunatelly this is going to be 1-2 for Red Bull

[hakanabi]

Lec still in 16. What a disaster.

As always he is stuck behind a drs train!

[jgonzalesm6]

3rd

on lap 8....

[stefa]

CS reporting high degradation

[ferrari1.8t]

Of course hamilton gets let off. The fia is a joke, even brundle is saying it’s his fault. The bias is real.

[Greig]

Of course hamilton gets let off. The fia is a joke, even brundle is saying it’s his fault. The bias is real.

He is out the race, what are you wanting?

[Greig]

Carlos tyres looking trashed.

[stefa]

CS reporting high degradation

MV reporting same

[ferrari1.8t]

He is out the race, what are you wanting?

Grid penalty next race. Just because he’s out doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve a penalty. You cause a collision you get a penalty, it’s simple. Unless your hamilton obviously.

[Greig]

Charles up to p12

[Greig]

Grid penalty next race. Just because he’s out doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve a penalty. You cause a collision you get a penalty, it’s simple. Unless your hamilton obviously.

If he had taken Alonso with him would be different....collision does not mean instant penalty no matter if you hate Lewis.

[ferrari1.8t]

Charles up to p12

If max pits he would come out ahead of Leclerc.

[MSC Fan]

Degradation higher than expected. It's over. Is it too much to ask for 1 race?

[ferrari1.8t]

How can Verstappen be so much faster than Perez? It’s incredible…

[Greig]

Sainz pits

[jgonzalesm6]

Max 1st place on lap 12.

[ferrari1.8t]

Leclerc in 5th

[hakanabi]

I don't think perez has the same spec car as mv has. He is on softs and still so much faster than perez

[stefa]

CL dropped like stone behind SP

[Greig]

Something wrong with Charles?

[stefa]

WTH?!?!?!

[drax]

No way we can do a 1 stop

[ferrari1.8t]

Russell closing on Leclerc

[WS6TransAm01]

Is something wrong with Charles’ car?

[stefa]

SP and CL touched

[gump1480]

So there goes the hypothesis of race pace being close to RB

[WS6TransAm01]

His pace went to crap. What happened?

[ferrari1.8t]

So Greig, that Merc easily passed Ferrari. What’s your excuse now? Tires? Sun in his eyes? Or has the TD helped Merc’s race pace?

[totox]

So Greig, that Merc easily passed Ferrari. What’s your excuse now? Tires? Sun in his eyes? Or has the TD helped Merc’s race pace?

15 laps delta of tires, maybe?

[Greig]

So Greig, that Merc easily passed Ferrari. What’s your excuse now? Tires? Sun in his eyes? Or has the TD helped Merc’s race pace?

On fresh tyres....are you crazy?

[stefa]

So Greig, that Merc easily passed Ferrari. What’s your excuse now? Tires? Sun in his eyes? Or has the TD helped Merc’s race pace?

SP touched CL

[Greig]

Sounds like Charles will be going to the hards.

[totox]

Rb solved their porpoising issues. And we still have it. Unbelievable

[stefa]

And now MV will fly by CS

[Greig]

Max is gone.....

[ferrari1.8t]

15 laps delta of tires, maybe?

Then a 1 stop is impossible. He will need to pit again…

[stefa]

Rb solved their porpoising issues. And we still have it. Unbelievable

CS is bouncing like hell

[Greig]

Then a 1 stop is impossible. He will need to pit again…

He was always going to pit again.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Nah I'm out. Can't believe how the good for the sport guys were naïve enough to believe that Red Bull would follow the budget cap.

[stefa]

Max is gone.....

Well congrats on easiest WDC defend!

[ferrari1.8t]

Carlos didn’t even try…at least Charles puts up a fight.

[stefa]

CL is still dropping like a stone

[Kyss4k]

This is a total farce. We have nothing, nothing on them. I wanna kick Binotto into his balls for what they have done to this season. We started with a monster... Damn. Congrats to the lemonades, they don't deserve it, we've just given it to them, but... oh well, congrats.

[Greig]

Wow so now we are asking Charles what tyres he wants.....

[stefa]

These guys are just plane amateurs!

[Greig]

These guys are just plane amateurs!

Why?

[ferrari1.8t]

Our pit wall doesn’t know anything…these guys are embarrassing. “What do we do?” You have the data, you should know, what a joke.

Plus they are telling everyone our plans.

[Kyss4k]

Do we have a strategy team or are they just payed to wear red and eat pasta?

[stefa]

It is painful to be Ferrari supporter...

[patrese86]

Charles doesn't have the data in front of him, why are you asking him?!?!!??

Not to mention it's distracting and further showing your incompetence

[stefa]

Why?

You need proof?!?!?!

[jgonzalesm6]

Wow so now we are asking Charles what tyres he wants.....


These guys are just plane amateurs!

yep....pit wall should have the info. So, Leclerc is the tire strategist now.....amazing.

[Greig]

Do we have a strategy team or are they just payed to wear red and eat pasta?

So when we don't listen to the driver they are idiots, when they ask the driver they are idiots.

Give it a rest.

[Greig]

yep....pit wall should have the info. So, Leclerc is the tire strategist now.....amazing.

They have given him all the data, not much wrong with that.....what would you rather?

[PURE PASSION]

The worst race of the season!!!
And the pace mirrors the point difference!!!!

[Tifoso Svedese]

yep....pit wall should have the info. So, Leclerc is the tire strategist now.....amazing.

To be fair I'd take Leclerc and Sainz over Rueda as team strategists seven days of the week.

[nhiepka]

we should fire Binoto because he is not good at TP.

[stefa]

This is JOKE!!!!

[samboozik]

Thanks FIA for this new technical directive, you ruined the championship.

[ferrari1.8t]

Saniz is so soft…put up a fight at least.

[stefa]

The worst race of the season!!!
And the pace mirrors the point difference!!!!

There are planty more to come

[nani_s23]

This is all reminding me 2018 all together again. Ferrari lost the ground.

Everyone talked about new ERS upgrade. So it’s the end. We didn’t find much needed performance.

[Arcana]

So the pit wall ask Leclerc what tires to put next. Priceless.

[Schumiklub]

LOL, Xavi said Charles' pace compared to Red Bull is comparable. We're 3 seconds slower. We lose 2 seconds just in S2.

[ferrari1.8t]

Only a safety car and a free pit stop can save this race and give us a chance…

[Kyss4k]

To be fair I'd take Leclerc and Sainz over Rueda as team strategists seven days of the week.

The thing is, drivers don't know the pace of other drivers who already used different compounds. That's the team who has that data. They should know, what is best. If they don't, well then why are they here?

[Greig]

So the pit wall ask Leclerc what tires to put next. Priceless.

What's the problem with that?

[nani_s23]

Thanks FIA for this new technical directive, you ruined the championship.

Thanks to Mattia for agreeing the mid rule change.

[Greig]

The thing is, drivers don't know the pace of other drivers who already used different compounds. That's the team who has that data. They should know, what is best. If they don't, well then why are they here?

And they told Charles this info....what's your problem with it?

[Tifoso Svedese]

This is all reminding me 2018 all together again. Ferrari lost the ground.

Everyone talked about new ERS upgrade. So it’s the end. We didn’t find much needed performance.

This is more like 2019 at this point. An absolute unmitigated disaster and what's worse, the good for the sport boy Binotto isn't doing jack diddly squat about it.

[elnano14]

Both Red Bull nearly 2s faster than Sainz per lap, Russell 1s faster. The car is a diaster

[Kyss4k]

Only a safety car and a free pit stop can save this race and give us a chance…

Only a crash/puncture/engine blowout/mistake from RB can give us a chance.

[PURE PASSION]

Even Russell is faster then Sainz

[PURE PASSION]

We are SO slow!!!! It's embarrassing

[ferrari1.8t]

Even Russell is faster then Sainz

Ya, but some people seem to think the TD didn’t help Merc.

[drax]

Qnd the car seems to be eating away the tires Russel catching up on Sainz

[Schumiklub]

We're painfully slow.

[ferrari1.8t]

We will be 4 and 5 today if we are lucky. Russell will pass us. Complete joke….

[nani_s23]

TD did hurt us more, it’s evident. We lost majority of the pace.

[Kyss4k]

And they told Charles this info....what's your problem with it?

"Hey Charles, we have these and these tyres, they do that and these do something else, please, tell us what should we do" instead of "Hey Charles, let's pit in lap 25 for hards, it's the best option, are ok with that?".

[stefa]

This is..... I don't have decent words....

[hakanabi]

Oh well, looks like we need to brace for rb dominance from now on if they will have this kind of pace for rest of the season.

[Greig]

"Hey Charles, we have these and these tyres, they do that and these do something else, please, tell us what should we do" instead of "Hey Charles, let's pit in lap 25 for hards, it's the best option, are ok with that?".

Like they did in Hungary? Your trying to hard to be upset.

[WS6TransAm01]

This is just sad.

[stefa]

This is just sad.

This is beyond sad.

[elnano14]

This is SF1000 level, not the F1-75 we saw earlier this season, Red Bull are 2s faster than us, Mercedes are 1s faster than us. Unacceptable

[Kyss4k]

Oh well, looks like we need to brace for rb dominance from now on if they will have this kind of pace for rest of the season.

I don't think there is anything else that can be done this year. We can only hope that next year will be better, just like we're doing it every season last 14 years.

[ferrari1.8t]

Like they did in Hungary? Your trying to hard to be upset.

Why is it so hard for you to admit the pit wall has been questionable as of late. Continuous mistakes, lack of knowledge, just overall clown show.

Now, Merc will beat us on pure race pace and you are still in denial. It’s unbelievable really.

[patrese86]

We have a poor race car compared to Red Bull and even Mercedes. It's not a new phenomenon either, look at Imola where we struggled in race trim. Anytime there is high deg we are third best.

[stefa]

I don't think there is anything else that can be done this year. We can only hope that next year will be better, just like we're doing it every season last 14 years.

That is only thing, but based on what we are hoping?!?!?

[drax]

Sainz hards ?

[Greig]

Why is it so hard for you to admit the pit wall has been questionable as of late. Continuous mistakes, lack of knowledge, just overall clown show.

Now, Merc will beat us on pure race pace and you are still in denial. It’s unbelievable really.

When have I not admitted it? Ranting about what I think won't change much, turn off if your so upset.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I'm not even hoping, this team ain't winning s-t until Binotto and Rueda have packed their bags. Everytime Ferrari have a chance to win something, those two give it away either to the FIA or by bad choices on the pitwall.

[Schumiklub]

Max is just crazy on pace. But Red Bull in general is just out of reach. It seems the TD really hurt us.

[Kyss4k]

Like they did in Hungary? Your trying to hard to be upset.

See the problem already? They don't know! That's what we're saying. They don't know what to do so now they are asking drivers to tell them. What are the stategists for then? To read data do divers? A parrot can do that.

[Greig]

See the problem already? They don't know! That's what we're saying. They don't know what to do so now they are asking drivers to tell them. What are the stategists for then? To read data do divers? A parrot can do that.

They did know, they told him all the data, are you deaf as well as stupid?

[ferrari1.8t]

Wow, Ferrari managed a double stack. 2.4 for Carlos, and 3.0 for Charles.

[Kyss4k]

That is only thing, but based on what we are hoping?!?!?

I have no idea... based on all we have left I guess... fandom.

[stefa]

I'm not even hoping, this team ain't winning s-t until Binotto and Rueda have packed their bags.

For a long time now I am not hoping of anything. Couple of poles, wins and that's it. With this team structure Ferrari will NOT win any championship!

[Kyss4k]

They did know, they told him all the data, are you deaf as well as stupid?

Are you? Or do you have trouble reading?

"What are the stategists for then? To read data to drivers? A parrot can do that." If they knew what is the best strategy, they would tell them "we will go on this tyre" like other teams do. You always hear from Merc "Lewis, this was the best option" <- these guys know.

[jgonzalesm6]

When have I not admitted it? Ranting about what I think won't change much, turn off if your so upset.

Never heard a team advise a driver what position he’ll finish with 50% of the race remaining. Depressing.

[Greig]

Never heard a team advise a driver what position he’ll finish with 50% of the race remaining. Depressing.

Hear it all the time, another with selective hearing.

[stefa]

I have no idea... based on all we have left I guess... fandom.

Just don't get this things serious. Enjoy in your life. These amateurs will get money at the end of the month no matter wath, and we are loosing our nervs for them?!?!?

[Greig]

Are you? Or do you have trouble reading?

"What are the stategists for then? To read data to drivers? A parrot can do that." If they knew what is the best strategy, they would tell them "we will go on this tyre" like other teams do. You always hear from Merc "Lewis, this was the best option" <- these guys know.

You hear them asking Lewis and Max about tyre choices all the time, maybe turn up the volume.

[Kyss4k]

Hear it all the time, another with selective hearing.

Mate, you are just dumb. There is HUGE differece between reading the data sheet and understanding it. Our team is reading it to the drivers. Other top teams (Merc, Bulls) do understand and they tell drivers the fastest strategy. They don't askt them what to do.

[PURE PASSION]

Sorry guys but that's it for me for this race, probably for the next of the season and I see for next year!!!!
I said it last year. The 22 was my last chance I gave to the team. And they fall big time. We have chamge EVERYTHING in the last 10+ years and the result is the same. We are condemned to be 2nd-3d !!! I will always be a Ferrari fan but not a f1 fan.

[Kyss4k]

You hear them asking Lewis and Max about tyre choices all the time, maybe turn up the volume.

Right. You mean these conversations?

Lewis: Why are we on these tyres?
Bono(or whoever): It is the fastest option Lewis.

Kinda different, don't you think?

[Greig]

Mate, you are just dumb. There is HUGE differece between reading the data sheet and understanding it. Our team is reading it to the drivers. Other top teams (Merc, Bulls) do understand and they tell drivers the fastest strategy. They don't askt them what to do.

Carry on being stupid, you have never heard the pit tell a driver what position they are targetting for the end of race? Happens very often.

Max was on the radio telling them about tyres all race....Lewis does it, they all do it.

[stefa]

Sorry guys but that's it for me for this race, probably for the next of the season and I see for next year!!!!
I said it last year. The 22 was my last chance I gave to the team. And they fall big time. We have chamge EVERYTHING in the last 10+ years and the result is the same. We are condemned to be 2nd-3d !!! I will always be a Ferrari fan but not a f1 fan.

Totally understand you. Until the team is in ranks of Brawn, Todt, Schumacher, there is nothing we can hope for in terms of champuonships.

[Greig]

Right. You mean these conversations?

Lewis: Why are we on these tyres?
Bono(or whoever): It is the fastest option Lewis.

Kinda different, don't you think?

Guess you supported the Hungary hard tyres, strange person.

[elnano14]

Perez already did 1m50s with Hard while Sainz are doing his 1m52s...

[Tifoso Svedese]

If F1 was the same as it was back in the 90s with the narrow, loud cars that really posed a challenge to the drivers, most races on classical European tracks and above all defensive driving was still a thing because of no DRS - then it might be worth watching even if Ferrari wasn't winning.

Now on the other hand, it's an absolute garbage 'sport'. Zero enjoyment in any race that Ferrari ain't winning these days. None.

[hakanabi]

Why didn't they pit leclerc on mediums?

[stefa]

I can only imagine what lamb to the slaughter we are going to be at Monza?!

[Greig]

Charles P5 as the team so wrongly told him, disgusting by the pit wall.

[Aziz]

I can only imagine what lamb to the slaughter we are going to be at Monza?!

It's going to be painful

[ferrari1.8t]

Charles P5 as the team so wrongly told him, disgusting by the pit wall.

Wow we should be so proud of our team finishing 5th, behind a Mercedes. And wow, they should be praised for predicting p5!

[Schumiklub]

I just don't understand how can we be 1s slower than Mercedes in S2 and 2 seconds slower than RB.

[stefa]

Charles P5 as the team so wrongly told him, disgusting by the pit wall.

What an achievement! Wow!!! We should be delightet. MV will have ONLY 96 points lead!

[elnano14]

Sainz PB 1:52.158
Russell PB 1:50.793

[Greig]

What an achievement! Wow!!! We should be delightet. MV will have ONLY 96 points lead!

:baby

[Kyss4k]

Guess you supported the Hungary hard tyres, strange person.

What the hell is your brain doing man?! Is Mercedes Ferrari? Are these the same cars? We have OUR data, they have THEIRS. And sure, everyone makes mistakes, but if you are doing them all the time, and the best you can do after that is to just ask your drivers what to instead, that's the easiest job in the freaking world. If I would do the same errors in my work, and then I would ask others to do the work for me instead I would be not working there anymore. In Ferrari, all is good and people like you are blind to that. Call me stupid like you want, only one stupid here is you. People aroud the world are having a laugh at our team yet you are ok with it. Even broadcasters were saying this is not how you do strategy yet you are ok with that. You are weird. And there is only so much stupid talk I can listen to, so enjoy the race. You for sure are happy with how we're doing.

[Schumiklub]

Oh man. Max does a 1:49.3, and Charles can't even get into the 1:50s. Not even close to them.

[drax]

Russel will pass Sainz

[Greig]

What the hell is your brain doing man?! Is Mercedes Ferrari? Are these the same cars? We have OUR data, they have THEIRS. And sure, everyone makes mistakes, but if you are doing them all the time, and the best you can do after that is to just ask your drivers what to instead, that's the easiest job in the freaking world. If I would do the same errors in my work, and then I would ask others to do the work for me instead I would be not working there anymore. In Ferrari, all is good and people like you are blind to that. Call me stupid like you want, only one stupid here is you. People aroud the world are having a laugh at our team yet you are ok with it. Even broadcasters were saying this is not how you do strategy yet you are ok with that. You are weird. And there is only so much stupid talk I can listen to, so enjoy the race. You for sure are happy with how we're doing.

What has Mercedes got to do with what we done in Hungary?

Carry on spitting out your dummy.

[elnano14]

Greig You can't still accept that we're that much slower ?

[stefa]

GR will overtake CS!

[Greig]

Greig You can't still accept that we're that much slower ?

Where did I say we are not slower than Red Bull?

Talk about Ferrari not me.

[ferrari1.8t]

Greig You can't still accept that we're that much slower ?

Never. He’s as clueless as Binotto. And he has a book full of excuses ready to go.

[elnano14]

Where did I say we are not slower than Red Bull?

Talk about Ferrari not me.

Yesterday qualifying

[Greig]

Never. He’s as clueless as Binotto. And he has a book full of excuses ready to go.

You cheer for Lewis.

See I can make things up too.

Discuss Ferrari not me.

[alfaromeo]

Red Bull and verstapen is on the other planet … this is amazing what Red Bull is doing, Ferrari form hungry i don’t know why but the car is slow, race peace is bad … Red Bull and Mercedes have better department 2026 they will fight for title not Ferrari. And then Porsche/Red Bull :-s

[drax]

Where did I say we are not slower than Red Bull?

Talk about Ferrari not me.

Apparently we are slower than the mercs in race pace also

[ferrari1.8t]

Mercedes is faster than us on race pace, as I predicted. Complete failure from Ferrari. These last 8 races will be hard to watch.

[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis owns up to his mistake with Alonso.....what's the world coming too!!!:-D

[patrese86]

Sainz will be lucky to get P3 here

[Greig]

Yesterday qualifying

Based on what we seen in practice....I am not a fortune teller.

Carry on discussing Ferrari, what I think does not change anything.

[Kyss4k]

What has Mercedes got to do with what we done in Hungary?

Carry on spitting out your dummy.

Running the same strategy as Leclerc yet doing it right in the end? :D Just shut up please already.

[Lesky]

Lewis interrupting the interviewer as she was going to read out Alonsos radio message: "I dont care what Alonso said".

[stefa]

Red Bull and verstapen is on the other planet … this is amazing what Red Bull is doing, Ferrari form hungry i don’t know why but the car is slow, race peace is bad … Red Bull and Mercedes have better department 2026 they will fight for title not Ferrari. And then Porsche/Red Bull :-s

Guys, Ferrari will not win any championship in comming years!

[Aziz]

We won't win a single race from now on

I just hope media in Italy will eat them alive

[ferrari1.8t]

You cheer for Lewis.

See I can make things up too.

Discuss Ferrari not me.

You’re the one who told me Mercedes’ was way off of us and were nothing to worry about today. Wake up, Mercedes is faster than us.

[Greig]

Running the same strategy as Leclerc yet doing it right in the end? :D Just shut up please already.

What are you even talking about, you have no idea what you are on about now.

[WS6TransAm01]

Can’t even outpace Merc at this point.

Another year of implosion.

[Greig]

Your the one who told me Mercedes’ was way off of us and were nothing to worry about today. Wake up, Mercedes is faster than us.

I said that today?

Making things up about me is not why you are here is it.

Discuss Ferrari not me.

[stefa]

Mercedes is faster than us on race pace, as I predicted. Complete failure from Ferrari. These last 8 races will be hard to watch.

This is usual Ferrari MO after summer break!

[ferrari1.8t]

Lewis interrupting the interviewer as she was going to read out Alonsos radio message: "I dont care what Alonso said".

The truth hurts. He doesn’t want to hear it even though he knows it’s true.

[stefa]

This with GR catching CS is emberassing

[ferrari1.8t]

I said that today?

Making things up about me is not why you are here is it.

Discuss Ferrari not me.

http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/showthread.php/34800-2022-Belgian-Grand-Prix-Buildup-Practice-amp-Qualifying-Thread/page7

Post #207.

:wave

[Kyss4k]

What are you even talking about, you have no idea what you are on about now.

They started the same strategy, they got it to work. Our strategists were so bright, they decided to put hards on. We failed. That's my point. Everyone in the world saw hards to not be working but our specialists. Yet you keep deffending them.

I won't lose time with you. I guess ignore works on the cancerous owners too. Gotta try it now.

[Greig]

http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/showthread.php/34800-2022-Belgian-Grand-Prix-Buildup-Practice-amp-Qualifying-Thread/page7

Post #207.

:wave

That was in qualifying? Are you needing some help?

[ferrari1.8t]

This with GR catching CS is emberassing

Very embarrassing.

[Aziz]

#Scuderia Implosion

#essereimplode

[Greig]

They started the same strategy, they got it to work. Our strategists were so bright, they decided to put hards on. We failed. That's my point. Everyone in the world saw hards to not be working but our specialists. Yet you keep deffending them.

I won't lose time with you. I guess ignore works on the cancerous owners too. Gotta try it now.

I will help you with that.

[ferrari1.8t]

That was in qualifying? Are you needing some help?

Lol always changing the terms to suit your agenda. Your sad and delusional. Hahah

[paneristi]

We won't win a single race from now on

I just hope media in Italy will eat them alive

The binodonkey has good relationships with some high management in Matanello

[Greig]

Lol always changing the terms to suit your agenda. Your sad and delusional. Hahah

You said I told you it today? your lying. That is what is sad.

[totox]

This place lost all the interest in F1. It's only bashing and trashing between members. If you can't handle the incompetence of Ferrari, you should stay away of the sport, it's too much for your health. Ofc we want them to win, but is each race more far away.

[guro]

can someone explain me what is happened between friday and saturday in Budapest. On friday Ferrari was fastest, and completely different story from that point...

[ferrari1.8t]

You said I told you it today? your lying. That is what is sad.

You are unbelievable. You have been saying all season that Merc are nothing to worry about and won’t catch Ferrari. Well they have caught Ferrari and are faster on race pace. You are in complete denial and grasping at straws to suit your past comments. Get over it, you are wrong and the whole forum knows it! Hahah

[Greig]

You are unbelievable. You have been saying all season that Merc are nothing to worry about and won’t catch Ferrari. Well they have caught Ferrari and are faster on race pace. You are incomplete denial and grasping at straws to suit your past comments. Get over it, you are wrong and the whole forum knows it! Hahah

So I never told you it today? Stop lying.

[totox]

can someone explain me what is happened between friday and saturday in Budapest. On friday Ferrari was fastest, and completely different story from that point...

Knowing the team, wrong path in setup, choice of parts or development.

[elnano14]

Without Hamilton's DNF we would be dead ass P5 + P6

[Kyss4k]

You are unbelievable. You have been saying all season that Merc are nothing to worry about and won’t catch Ferrari. Well they have caught Ferrari and are faster on race pace. You are in complete denial and grasping at straws to suit your past comments. Get over it, you are wrong and the whole forum knows it! Hahah

He is like a little kid, ain't he?

[ferrari1.8t]

This is reminiscent of Merc days. Verstappen ahead of his teammate by nearly 17 seconds. Wow

[SB92]

The binodonkey has good relationships with some high management in Matanello

Im pretty sure that there's a dreadful amount of politics going on behind the scenes. Binotto is the worst TP we have had in a long, long time and yet he and his pet clown Rueda never seem to have their jobs threatened. What a disgrace.

[ferrari1.8t]

He is like a little kid, ain't he?

Yes. And much like ferrari, he is incapable of admitting when he made a mistake.

[drax]

Ok Sainz will keep P3, we really need the advertised new suspension

[alfaromeo]

And the problem is bigger than it seems, everyone who says they should replace binotto or several people in the management of ferrari, who will replace them... there are no new people, the best ones are at red bull mercedes ..

[totox]

Somewhat this is expected. We never solve the porpoising. Look at the rb, is so smooth. We are each race worse.

[stefa]

CL is 20+ sec behind GR!!!!!!!

[SB92]

Without Hamilton's DNF we would be dead ass P5 + P6

That is probably the best we can achieve in the remaining races.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Pérez is way worse than Bottas was for pace. He was a joke last year for his repeated Q3 misses when Verstappen pulled poles, but sadly for us has enough racecraft to score points regardless.

[drax]

CL is 20+ sec behind GR!!!!!!!

Let’s be fair, he probably stopped pushing after getting p5 and is saving components

[stefa]

Let’s be fair, he probably stopped pushing after getting p5 and is saving components

TBF yes, but still....

[totox]

I think Ferrari went for a compromised setup, trying to cut the speed deficit and that, destroy our chances, pace and tires.

[elnano14]

What is the pit delta ? Can we pit Charles for Soft trying for FL ?

[Tifoso Svedese]

Zandvoort is the big test on the TD effect. This was always the worst circuit of the season for this car has to be said. The tyre degradation is unacceptable, however. Especially considering how well Leclerc managed the hard tyres in Austria and the medium tyres in Hungary.

[stefa]

CL in pit

[stefa]

And we lost 5th

[drax]

WTH ?? Was this worth it ?

[paneristi]

Im pretty sure that there's a dreadful amount of politics going on behind the scenes. Binotto is the worst TP we have had in a long, long time and yet he and his pet clown Rueda never seem to have their jobs threatened. What a disgrace.

Couldn’t have said it better

[stefa]

If it is not sad it would be funny

[elnano14]

WHAT THE ****

[jgonzalesm6]

And we lost 5th


WTH ?? Was this worth it ?

Leclerc got it back...very lucky.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Isn't that 5D chess to get Leclerc the DRS for fastest lap or something? Not watching so no clue :rotfl

[Greig]

Charles never even got FL lol

[SB92]

Without Hamilton's DNF we would be dead ass P5 + P6

That is probably the best we can achieve in the remaining races.

[elnano14]

Disgrace performance from the whole team (except the drivers)

[Aziz]

5 sec penalty for Lec

[elnano14]

5 sec penalty for Lec

For what

[tifosi1993]

That was a total spanking and they totally deserve it. This team is hopeless and lost at sea. We have to wonder what's been going on behind scenes. Red Bull kept on developing their cars while our moron team principal was smiling in front of the camera and harping on about budget cap.

Not sure from where he finds all that happiness tbh.

[Greig]

For what

Speeding in pitlane disaster.

[Alonsomaniac]

And we lost 5th again.....

[stefa]

5 sec penalty for Lec

Just great!

[stefa]

Clowns!!!

[drax]

Well that was worth it

[jgonzalesm6]

Speeding in pitlane disaster.

5 sec penalty and now behind Alonso.........this race sums up the whole season....oh wait!!!

[alfaromeo]

This what happens with leclerk last lap is not important.. now they must focus that the end of 2022 are second in championship

[SilverSpeed]

:furious:furious:furious:furious:furious:furious:f urious:furious:furious:furious

[Aziz]

That was a total spanking and they totally deserve it. This team is hopeless and lost at sea. We have to wonder what's been going on behind scenes. Red Bull kept on developing their cars while our moron team principal was smiling in front of the camera and harping on about budget cap.

Not sure from where he finds all that happiness tbh.

Complete idiot, moron,worst TP in decades

[elnano14]

Binotto: "No need to change in the summer break" btw

[samboozik]

This what happens with leclerk last lap is not important.. now they must focus that the end of 2022 are second in championship

Does it matter anymore?

[Portago]

Speeding in pitlane disaster.

Come on guys... Surely that was Not Binotto's fault

[drax]

Come on guys... Surely that was Not Binotto's fault

Unnecessary risk, lost points … seems then TD has affected us badly look at HAAS also, which is the most similar car to ours

[nani_s23]

That was a total spanking and they totally deserve it. This team is hopeless and lost at sea. We have to wonder what's been going on behind scenes. Red Bull kept on developing their cars while our moron team principal was smiling in front of the camera and harping on about budget cap.

Not sure from where he finds all that happiness tbh.

We had lot of time to develop 2022 cars, we were starting ahead but still we ended up into this situation.
Look at Mercs how to ruled 2014-2021.

Now it’s RB era again. I do see Max win multiple titles with this team.

Unfortunately ferrari here destroying themselves & drivers. (Alonso/Vettel & now leclerc)