2022 Dutch Grand Prix - Buildup, Practice & Qualifying

[tifosi1993]

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[jgonzalesm6]

Lewis looks like he'll take a grid penalty after his shunt with Alonso at Spa. He had a new engine at Spa.

[FerrariF60]

Lewis looks like he'll take a grid penalty after his shunt with Alonso at Spa. He had a new engine at Spa.

how gives a hoot about Luise???? he should learn how to drive better in wheel to wheel racing.....Alo was right, he only knows how to race when he's first and takes OFF....LOL

but in all seriousness, this track should suit us better; we all sort have knew tath we'd be in trouble in Spa given how efficient red bull's car is compared to ours. This track has a lot more slow corners and hopefully we'll give red fools a run for their money.

but if the weather is COOL again, we may run in the same issues we did in Hungary come race day, when in practice when it was really hot our car was just fine but race day, not so much when it got cooler; our car just doesn't seem to liek teh cool temperatures, or maybe was it a SET UP THING??

[jgonzalesm6]

how gives a hoot about Luise???? he should learn how to drive better in wheel to wheel racing.....Alo was right, he only knows how to race when he's first and takes OFF....LOL






Lewis didn't want to apologize to Alonso after the race because Alonso referred to Lewis during the incident as an "idiot." please.

I've seen drivers throw the finger at each other in F1 during heated moments.

Lewis is a tool and trying to make Alonso's "idiot" message bigger than what it is.

[Liscia]

Just to interject some levity this was passed on to me today which I thought might crack you guys up:)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11156983/Lewis-Hamiltons-pink-camouflage-outfit-Belgian-Grand-Prix-latest-whacky-costume.html

[Riccardog]

well it is almost rivalled by his outfit at Silverstone: https://9gag.com/gag/a0ZgW0Z

[Toothlessrage*]

I hope the sun shines this time around for Ferrari.
They desperately need a streak of luck for morale heading into the remainder and to the next season.

Also, I hope my faith in Binnoto isn't unfounded.
I can't take any more of this unorganized crap.

[stefa]

Just to interject some levity this was passed on to me today which I thought might crack you guys up:)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11156983/Lewis-Hamiltons-pink-camouflage-outfit-Belgian-Grand-Prix-latest-whacky-costume.html

CLOWN!!!

[stefa]

http://www.thescuderia.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8080&stc=1

[nani_s23]

Going by the performance of our car in Hungary & Spa.

RB/Max is the favourite. It’s easy for him at the moment.


Last two tracks we suffered with Tyre Deg heavily. Our race pace drastically went down.

Now the order is (Race pace):
1. RB
2. Merc
3. Ferrari

Wonder how we started & ended up.

[Gilles]

Charles could win there
But like we saw many times, our dream team could easily ruin his race
Carlos, as always, should be pretentious and at the end, just slow

[WS6TransAm01]

The campaign is lost. Charles should send it. Full send, dude. See an opportunity, go for it. Late brake like hell, and if you take someone out, who cares. If it works, you look like a Chad.

First or Last, Charles. Nothing to lose.


CLOWN!!!

He really is. The dude wore a doily dress. Just come out already. We all know it.

[paolo lalli]

Ok let's stop stating the obvious we understand clearly that the championships are lost, so let's all just move on and hopefully ferrari can finish what remains of the season in somewhat of a position mode.As a fan yes it has been difficult to witness the capitulation of a team, but as a ferrari fan iam always optomistic moving foward and it may as well be at the Dutch GP why not I say.....

[jgonzalesm6]

I bought more aspirin for this weekend to deal with the headaches from more of Ferrari's strategies.

[stefa]

What to say

https://twitter.com/FanaticsFerrari/status/1565624360110620673?s=20&t=wbfBt5rs2a-EuI2NJeBDhQ

[nani_s23]

What to say

https://twitter.com/FanaticsFerrari/status/1565624360110620673?s=20&t=wbfBt5rs2a-EuI2NJeBDhQ

There’s a lot to say, we are incompetent.

[nani_s23]

Ferrari will start with a high downforce config, "then we'll see" 2 specs of front wings to try, one of which is much more unloaded (in the box) Mercedes with a lot of DWF on the front too. Redbull by Max in Austria config. Giant mirrors test 2023

@Formu1a_uno


Very good RB started to test 2023 as well. :clap

[nani_s23]

Red Bull shows the medium load wing on both RB18s. Ferrari the medium-high load wing (Bahrain Spec) on the F1-75. Thanks to the many banking systems, the front can be unloaded more as the track gains grip.

@Formu1a_uno

[elnano14]

I don't care if it's FP1. The pace from the car is unacceptable. Max isn't even driving

[Aziz]

I don't care if it's FP1. The pace from the car is unacceptable. Max isn't even driving

Awful slow, with the new TD the car is dead

[elnano14]

First part of the season when we failed at everything else (strategy, reliability,...) we still had the cars (and drivers too), now the cars gone as well

[458 Italia]

They really pee me off when they keep changing what times the sessions are from weekend to weekend.

[ferrari1.8t]

Awful slow, with the new TD the car is dead

Yup, looks like the TD affected Ferrari the most. We knew about it for months and had time to react and make changes so that it wouldn’t affect us. Instead we did nothing but whine about Resbulls budget. How can this team love to lose so much? Wake up Binotto, Mercedes will beat you on pace this weekend and you should be embarrassed; you failed at your job. RedBull and Mercedes’ bring update after update, with no concern for the budget. We should be doing the same thing…all the r and d costs can be dumped into the La Ferrari replacement. So disappointed in the team right now.

[paolo lalli]

Just suck it up it will be over soon enough.

[ferrari1.8t]

Just suck it up it will be over soon enough.

It will be over soon yes, but it’s hard to suck it up. We endured years of pain and this was supposed to be our time. This year and regulations offered the best chance at getting back to winning both championships. We threw it all away. Next year RedBull will be even stronger, and Merc will copy either us or RedBull and be competitive as well. Ferrari are too complacent with loosing. Ferrari fans are too complacent with saying “oh well, there’s always the next regulation change”. I guess we are supposed to wait until 2026 and grin and bear being uncompetitive.

Let’s see what the rest of the season holds for us I guess.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Ferrari are obviously running the engine half a second a lap lower than the others during FP1 as always, but the critical part is going to be managing to fight for pole and maintain good tyre economy at the same time. It's been circled on the calendar as a probably win all season long but I don't believe that will happen now. That being said, if Leclerc finds something and the engine is ran as low as I expect, that could change.

[FerrariF60]

Yup, looks like the TD affected Ferrari the most. We knew about it for months and had time to react and make changes so that it wouldn’t affect us. Instead we did nothing but whine about Resbulls budget. How can this team love to lose so much? Wake up Binotto, Mercedes will beat you on pace this weekend and you should be embarrassed; you failed at your job. RedBull and Mercedes’ bring update after update, with no concern for the budget. We should be doing the same thing…all the r and d costs can be dumped into the La Ferrari replacement. So disappointed in the team right now.

Ferrari didn’t wanna go over the budget spending limit mate....they wannna play it by the book yet red bull don’t give a crap about budget cap it seem as they just spent over $2M on a 4 pkg lighter chassis....good for them I envy them

Binotto as usual, spineless jelly fish with NO backbone

[elnano14]

Ferrari are obviously running the engine half a second a lap lower than the others during FP1 as always, but the critical part is going to be managing to fight for pole and maintain good tyre economy at the same time. It's been circled on the calendar as a probably win all season long but I don't believe that will happen now. That being said, if Leclerc finds something and the engine is ran as low as I expect, that could change.

Since the start of the season even with the turned down engine we were still comfortable in top 3 even in practice. It hasn't been the case since Spa

[gump1480]

And somehow Sainz seems more comfortable with the car than Lec now.

[SB92]

We are clearly the 3rd fastest car now and will probably be in the same position relative to RB and Merc next season. Im just amazed as to how patient the top brass is with this absolute fool Binotto. He has been our worst TP in so many decades and yet gets to keep the seat. Its infuriating.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Well, at least both cars are ahead of Mercedes on what should be their best track while running the engines at standstill mode.

[WS6TransAm01]

What to say

https://twitter.com/FanaticsFerrari/status/1565624360110620673?s=20&t=wbfBt5rs2a-EuI2NJeBDhQ

I said it long ago. RBR and Merc will ignore the budget cap and use creative accounting to hide it. Ferrari, yet again, caught napping. Utter failure.

Binotto is not man enough to lead a team as great as Ferrari. I wouldn't allow him lead a group of dog catchers.

[ferrari1.8t]

Well, at least both cars are ahead of Mercedes on what should be their best track while running the engines at standstill mode.

For now. We may qualify ahead, but it’s likely the Merc has better race pace than us.

[ferrari1.8t]

I said it long ago. RBR and Merc will ignore the budget cap and use creative accounting to hide it. Ferrari, yet again, caught napping. Utter failure.

Binotto is not man enough to lead a team as great as Ferrari. I wouldn't allow him lead a group of dog catchers.

Yup, you’re right. Ferrari should have done the same thing. The FIA can’t audit Ferrari’s road car books, it would have been so easy to put a LaFerrari mule on track 24/7 to develop this car. Instead, here we are battling to be the 3rd fastest car.

[tifosi1993]

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[stefa]

I said it long ago. RBR and Merc will ignore the budget cap and use creative accounting to hide it. Ferrari, yet again, caught napping. Utter failure.

Binotto is not man enough to lead a team as great as Ferrari. I wouldn't allow him lead a group of dog catchers.

No matter how grim situation is, you always put a smile on my face

[paolo lalli]

So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

[The Hajj]

The sport has no chance because of ridiculous rules, like a budget cap and all the other “green” insanity.

Ferrari can claim the moral high ground, but losing is all the satisfaction they will achieve.




So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

[stefa]

The sport has no chance because of ridiculous rules, like a budget cap and all the other “green” insanity.

Ferrari can claim the moral high ground, but losing is all the satisfaction they will achieve.

Well said

[Liscia]

Is there a funny fishy smell emanating from RB sandbags?

[Liscia]

The Hajj you've put it very precisely in a nutshell!! (only just now catching up with earlier posts)

[Greig]

So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

Some "fans" on here actively applaud other teams cheating, just so they can pour hate on Ferrari. Not sure what they think it will achieve but it's all rather bizarre.

[ferrari1.8t]

Is there a funny fishy smell emanating from RB sandbags?

Can’t run around 2 seconds faster than everyone else…Toto might run back to his buddies at the fia to change the rules again. RedBull is reminiscent of the past Mercedes; don’t show your full hand but always have enough to win.

[ferrari1.8t]

Other teams cheating win them championships, if the FIA allows it (which they are), Ferrari should do the same.

But let’s not forget, Ferrari exploiting loopholes gets their wings clipped and relegated to the midfield for 2 years while Mercedes and RedBull exploiting loopholes gets them branded as geniuses.

[Greig]

Accounts have yet to be audited, so unsure how FIA are allowing anything yet. But as said anything to pour more hate on Ferrari by some "fans".

[stefa]

Suppose team win CWC and their driver win WDC, FIA find out that they spent more money than budget, how will they punish them?
I am 100000% FIA will not strip them of CWC and WDC!

[Liscia]

Suppose team win CWC and their driver win WDC, FIA find out that they spent more money than budget, how will they punish them?
I am 100000% FIA will not strip them of CWC an

For the FIAsco to have no rules to deal with violations is too convenient for the "ruling" body and it's favorites!

[Tifoso]

Reminds me of the calciopoli malarkey.

[Tifoso]

For the FIAsco to have no rules to deal with violations is too convenient for the "ruling" body and it's favorites!
FIAsco=brilliant! :-D

(Edited your post for clarity, fratello).

[Cavallino]

Suppose team win CWC and their driver win WDC, FIA find out that they spent more money than budget, how will they punish them?
I am 100000% FIA will not strip them of CWC and WDC!

I vote for allowing $0 development budget for said team for three seasons. And some technical directives that guarantee the team cannot compete for 3-4 seasons, which is what happened when Ferrari allegedly bent the rules in 2019. That's what happens when you stop cheating.

And yes, the FIA has stripped drivers and constructors results before. Mclaren 2008 and Michael in 97.

[elnano14]

Charles said his car was a bit understeer and it's tricky. While Carlos said he felt comfortable and optimistic for the rest of weekend...

[ferrari1.8t]

Accounts have yet to be audited, so unsure how FIA are allowing anything yet. But as said anything to pour more hate on Ferrari by some "fans".

So if the fia audits the teams after RedBull wins both championships, will they take them away if found guilty or say “just don’t to it again next year”?

I highly doubt the FIA would strip anyone of their wins. Maybe Mattia is right in saying it’s not being policed properly.

[Alonsomaniac]

Where have the Ferrari fans gone who stood by their team, no matter what? Some comments I read here..........I don't post a lot anymore, but some of you could better not post at all.
Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they have forums too.

[Liscia]

Where have the Ferrari fans gone who stood by their team, no matter what? Some comments I read here..........I don't post a lot anymore, but some of you could better not post at all.


Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they ha


I for one cannot imagine EVER not being a Tifoso (just like you Lou(igi)!

[Gilles]

In France we use to say "who loves, knows also to be tough"
I wonder sometimes how this team can keep fans with what happened this year
The fans keep loving Ferrari but can't agree to all that is done by people they would prefer to see doing their sabotage in other teams
Ferrari is far more than the today team's members
I think it's not to fans to leave, it's to Marcos and Rueda, at least

[RossTheBoss]

Where have the Ferrari fans gone who stood by their team, no matter what? Some comments I read here..........I don't post a lot anymore, but some of you could better not post at all.
Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they have forums too.
I love Ferrari. Schumacher in his Ferrari is some of the best of my youth.

I love the beautiful cars the engineers make at the factory, the pride they take in their work, and the desire for greatness at the Ferrari at factory.

I believe the people building such great cars deserve the best drivers and the best management to represent them, and just because we don't always see eye to eye on who that is, doesn't mean I don't love the team even with its flaws.

There's being a fan, then there's being delusional. When I see bad judgement, I'm going to say so. Why? Because what built Ferrari's best eras was the ability to grow, and handle harsh criticism when it was deserved. And yes, even Brawn and Todt had to take their lumps for mistakes.

[paolo lalli]

Loose with dignity loose with pride.Cheat or manipulate you will be caught because Carma will be your shadow.This budget cap chat at all levels iam sure are making some teams nervous they better have covered there tracks well or they will be history they will be exposed and disqualified the rumblings have started.

[330 p4]

Sainz top speed is a real outlier. 326. LeClerc at 316 around same as most. Did Sainz get a tow? If so 10kmh is alot.

[FerrariF60]

I truly hope our pace is genuine but I’m a bit shocked at the slow red bull pace...is that even real?? Coming from the dominant pace they had just over a week ago

I still think they are sandbagging big time

[Liscia]

....less than a week ago F60! It strains the imagination!

[Tifoso]

Ferrari fans back Ferrari. If you don't, no problem. There are other teams and they ha


I for one cannot imagine EVER not being a Tifoso (just like you Lou(igi)!

Hahahahaha! 8-)

[Tifoso]

I truly hope our pace is genuine but I’m a bit shocked at the slow red bull pace...is that even real?? Coming from the dominant pace they had just over a week ago

I still think they are sandbagging big time

Limited testing. They, or anyone, would be fools to sandbag.

Team X: lets fool the other teams. Lets run at non race pace and gain zero race information. That'll fool 'em. We win the Fool Them WDC hand down. Who cares about the real championships?

[WS6TransAm01]

No matter how grim situation is, you always put a smile on my face

Love ya bro!


So ferrari being honest represents being a total failure now thats harsh.Cooking the books smart accounting has no place, the best get caught.How can f1 ever be clean when corruptive minds run around this sport including this forum then the sport has no chance.

You either do everything to win, or you lose. No one remembers the losers. Winning matters above all.


Some "fans" on here actively applaud other teams cheating, just so they can pour hate on Ferrari. Not sure what they think it will achieve but it's all rather bizarre.

I’m applauding other team leaders doing what needs to be done to win and criticize Ferrari’s so called leader for being an utter failure.


Accounts have yet to be audited, so unsure how FIA are allowing anything yet. But as said anything to pour more hate on Ferrari by some "fans".

Because nothing will be audited and Ferrari could have been doing what needs to be done to win like RBR but no. They are lead by one of the Goth kids from South Park. He’s a guppy in a sea of sharks and a once in a generation talent like Charles are paying the price for his failures. The fact that others are not up in arms over this shows that they don’t want Ferrari to be on top. It’s like munchausen syndrome by proxy. They want Ferrari to continue to lose so that they can garner attention about how devoted they are.

[SB92]

I truly hope our pace is genuine but I’m a bit shocked at the slow red bull pace...is that even real?? Coming from the dominant pace they had just over a week ago

I still think they are sandbagging big time

I think they had some issues with Max's gearbox and then opted to mostly do race runs. Hopefully we will be a lot closer than in Spa nonetheless.

[Gilles]

I truly hope our pace is genuine but I’m a bit shocked at the slow red bull pace...is that even real?? Coming from the dominant pace they had just over a week ago

I still think they are sandbagging big time

They struggled to set up the car and were not focused on the timesheet. They suffered to make the tires working the whole lap
They should recover today, but not be dominant as they were in Spa with the margin we saw
The track favors more Ferrari
Traction is a key factor, not vmax and not tire degradation
Mercedes and McLaren are close, but Ferrari should normaly beat them
Leclerc still has rhythm to unlock because he was unhappy with the balance
Carlos on his side was happy

[paolo lalli]

Just putting it out there is redbulls chasi the same as last weeks were they using an over budget light weight version panicked fearing exposure and reverted back to the heavier chasis, crazy things do happen quali will tell.

[stefa]

First lap from MV and he is well ahead of everyone

[elnano14]

Charles lost half of a second in S1 + S2, Carlos lost nearly half of a second in S1 alone

[paolo lalli]

Max is just on it again untouchable. I can't see him being beaten he will send the Dutch fans crazy.

[patrese86]

Max is too strong. The Red Bull we know is fast in a straight line and super efficient but his annihilation of Perez all the time tells me he's just on a different planet. Perez is a better driver than Bottas for reference so it shows you how much better Max is than Hamilton, I don't even think it's all the car, this is Schumacher level.

[SB92]

Max is too strong. The Red Bull we know is fast in a straight line and super efficient but his annihilation of Perez all the time tells me he's just on a different planet. Perez is a better driver than Bottas for reference so it shows you how much better Max is than Hamilton, I don't even think it's all the car, this is Schumacher level.

Perez is not better than Bottas in terms of pace. He finished behind in a car that was atleast as good as the Merc. Even though Bottas had considerably more misfortune. That said, I do believe that its hard for anyone to match Max now. He has gone up several levels over 2021-22.

[Lebaronrouge]

Just putting it out there is redbulls chasi the same as last weeks were they using an over budget light weight version panicked fearing exposure and reverted back to the heavier chasis, crazy things do happen quali will tell.
At that moment I was a bit angry after skysport. Max did a one shot lap whilst our guys, especially Leclercw stayed on track for several laps. It was obvious that the fuel quantity was not the same but this wasn't mentioned at all....
Then they played "a surprise" when at the end Ferrari was the fastest.

[nani_s23]

Perez is not better than Bottas in terms of pace. He finished behind in a car that was atleast as good as the Merc. Even though Bottas had considerably more misfortune. That said, I do believe that its hard for anyone to match Max now. He has gone up several levels over 2021-22.

Max wasn’t there 5-6 races at the start of the season, that’s where Perez was almost matching him. Then came the upgrades to the liking of Max, this made perez loose his ground as well.

Bagging one title gives you less pressure & drive freely with more towards race. Max is currently in that phase. Where as leclerc is under pressure to win a title, doing mistakes & team is not giving him much needed support in pit wall.

This year’s car should be useful for leclerc to learn from his mistakes & deliver
Next year with title (if ferrari car is capable + team is around him).

[Tifoso Svedese]

I have Bottas as #10 and Pérez as #11 on my driver ranking. I think they're rather evenly matched. Combine Bottas' raw pace with Pérez' race craft and you more or less get a Sainz, who's a bit above both.

Neither are the kind of driver who should be in the best car though. It's not really 'good for the sport' as Mattia likes to say.

[nani_s23]

Any thoughts on penalty to Perez for blocking Sainz in FP3?

[Riccardog]

Any thoughts on penalty to Perez for blocking Sainz in FP3?

Not according to sky fools, who screamed for tsunoda's head for holding up the ham...

[nani_s23]

Sky Germany showing that there is quite some work on Charles‘s car, seems like another setup change.

[458 Italia]

Dutch fans are morons.

[stasera]

dutch fans...

[jgonzalesm6]

Dutch fans are morons.


dutch fans...

The "flare thrower" (singular) has been removed from the track.

[elnano14]

Max done a 1m10s on used tyres...

[SB92]

With norris and stroll this quick, we may struggle to get both cars into Q3.

[drax]

We seem to be eating up tired again

[alfaromeo]

What is going on at Ferrari? ***..

[drax]

Lec’s tires where 9 laps old… dunno about Carlos

[SB92]

Gonna be another disaster this weekend. Team isnt bringing any upgrades either but acc. to the fool Binotto, "all is well".

[alfaromeo]

:pray

[Tifoso Svedese]

2-3 would be a good result here and hopefully race pace is more like Britain and Austria than the last disaster. Got to find clean laps for both drivers.

[nani_s23]

It’s confirmed we are fighting with Mercs this weekend.
RB is on another level. Thanks to their consistent upgrades

[gump1480]

Max done a 1m10s on used tyres...

No they were new.

[SB92]

2-3 would be a good result here. Got to find clean laps for both drivers.

You mean in qualifying or the race? Because we seem to be unable to get on top of our tyre deg issues.

[jgonzalesm6]

No they were new.

His run in the 1:10's were on used tires.

[stefa]

No they were new.

They ware new!

[Tifoso Svedese]

Charles did 1:11.2 on a later flier in Q1 so the pace should be there when they go all-out to dip into the mid 1:10's. Doubt that's enough but I feel there's some more to get out of both cars now that the midfield cars are literally out of the way.

[drax]

This kid, this kid … amazing lap

[alfaromeo]

:pray

[stefa]

:ferrarifl

[WS6TransAm01]

Charles is something else. Shame how Ferrari failed him.

[stasera]

leclerc is another level when it comes to qualifying

[SB92]

Cmon charles!! I really hope that our race pace is upto it, dont wanna see another potential pole or front row start thrown away by Sunday misery.

[alfaromeo]

Ok ��

[drax]

Almost there, that second sector

[stefa]

Damn it!

[alfaromeo]

If we look this year better 2 than pol …:-)

[WS6TransAm01]

A Verstappen fan holding a sign that says “FERRARI STRATEGY” tells you everything you need to know

[stasera]

its better than pole, anyway we slap him tomorrow

[alfaromeo]

I think little mistake sector 2 leclerk

[stefa]

But all in all, I am satisfied! (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALiCzsae6794oGexWJnlJg2dJR5zWuaLng:16 62214147739&q=satisfied!&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjR48Oe5vj5AhWgQvEDHRjdBYwQkeECKAB6BAgBE Do)

[stefa]

Race is tomorrow! Let's get him!

[gump1480]

I think little mistake sector 2 leclerk

Yes

[Aziz]

But all in all, I am satisfied! (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALiCzsae6794oGexWJnlJg2dJR5zWuaLng:16 62214147739&q=satisfied!&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjR48Oe5vj5AhWgQvEDHRjdBYwQkeECKAB6BAgBE Do)

I'm not in Monza we will be a second off, this was last chance for pole

[elnano14]

Perez was nowhere again. Hope our racepace will be good as it was in FP2

[SB92]

Perez was nowhere again. Hope our racepace will be good as it was in FP2

We were showing heavy deg on used tyres in quali though, thats what worries me.

[WS6TransAm01]

Like I said in the beginning of this thread. Charles needs to send it into Turn1. Let if fly Charles, nothing to lose. If you punt Max out of the race, so what. Hamilton did it and still won.

[nani_s23]

I think there was a tiny mistake from Leclerc in S2. Else he would have been on pole.

Anyways closer than I expected. But I’m worried about Monza (our home race). Don’t want to see Max getting pole & race win over there.

[patrese86]

Yeah Charles made a mistake in S2 but in general a really good job from both Charles and Carlos. It's all a little bit redundant anyway as we have some of the worst tyre deg on the grid.

[nani_s23]

Controlling Tyre Deg one of our biggest issue since long time.

2018 -> 2nd half tyre deg was horrible
2019 -> it’s a one Lap quali car, in the race tyre deg was high
2020 & 2021 -> don’t want to discuss :-D
Now 2022. We need to focus on race pace. That’s where Max is killing us & now Mercs too.

[tifosi1993]

Steller effort from both Charles and Max. Tomorrow it will be a duel between this two. I know Charles doesn't care about P2 in the WDC standings, but at the end of the day he should be the runner up. He deserves it for his valiant effort this year.

[SB92]

How have your race runs been, guys?

[Tifoso Svedese]

How have your race runs been, guys?

Ain't really done that since 2012-13 but I managed 20 km in 1 h 29 min once :lol Admittedly not in a race but never let facts get in a way of a good story. Had a blast doing it!

:-D

[nani_s23]

How have your race runs been, guys?

Russell says he can beat ferrari & Checo tomorrow. This guy is talking too much once he’s into Mercs camp.

Leclerc says if ferrari can play with strategy tomorrow with him & Carlos starting 2&3 tomorrow there is a chance.

I personally feel either leclerc or Sainz will be off podium. One of the merc will catch us & Max is the winner.

[Aziz]

No chance of winning tomorrow, we will eat tires in few laps

[nani_s23]

RB is the fastest car over one lap & race everywhere.

Given their configuration or car specification even they are able to take pole & win in high DF tracks.

[wisepie]

Steller effort from both Charles and Max. Tomorrow it will be a duel between this two. I know Charles doesn't care about P2 in the WDC standings, but at the end of the day he should be the runner up. He deserves it for his valiant effort this year.

My thoughts exactly, OK he made two costly errors in Imola and France but the rest of his misfortunes lie elsewhere within the team. Sky seemed to put too much emphasis on a small 'mistake' in Q3, hence Max getting pole, now they're picking holes in Charles for the sake of it. The ragazzo deserves to be recognised for his efforts against Max this season.:roll

[Cavallino]

My thoughts exactly, OK he made two costly errors in Imola and France but the rest of his misfortunes lie elsewhere within the team. Sky seemed to put too much emphasis on a small 'mistake' in Q3, hence Max getting pole, now they're picking holes in Charles for the sake of it. The ragazzo deserves to be recognised for his efforts against Max this season.:roll

yes, imo he showed he's better. When you're driving a car with that kind of straight line speed, where a DRS overtake is guaranteed, everything especially strategy is easier.

[paolo lalli]

The race must come together at all levels tomorrow for the win.pole means nothing just a false glory as we have seen this year just how quickly that pole position can unravel into nothing.Hoping for a solid result, ferrari can use this opportunity hopefully as a season reset and use the positive result as motivation moving foward.Charles and Carlos have ticked the first box of the event.

[SB92]

Ain't really done that since 2012-13 but I managed 20 km in 1 h 29 min once :lol Admittedly not in a race but never let facts get in a way of a good story. Had a blast doing it!

:-D

Sorry, I meant ours XD

[Silent Bob]

Controlling Tyre Deg one of our biggest issue since long time.

2018 -> 2nd half tyre deg was horrible
2019 -> it’s a one Lap quali car, in the race tyre deg was high
2020 & 2021 -> don’t want to discuss :-D
Now 2022. We need to focus on race pace. That’s where Max is killing us & now Mercs too.



Oh damn. I thought Leclerc said that their race pace was strong. Did I misread his comments? Hope we are in contention for a win tomorrow. But realistically we'll probably be behind Russel and the Ham. Maybe even behind the Alpines. Probably do like 4 stops so Leclerc will finish behind Sainz and Alonso so Santander will be happy.

[FerrariF60]

It’s gonna be hard to win tomorrow me thinks
Red bull and Max look super quick....we’ll see how the tires will behave tomorrow and what the deg will be

No chance at either championships anymore so may as well test stuff for the rest of the season and come back stronger in 2023 with a good and reliable engine this time, better strategy calls and a strong car in terms of aero

[tpe]

To win this race one car has to go long and the other to undercut RB. Regardless of the start.
Actually, the way I see it if Lec passes MV at the start (unlikely) he should undercut him.

[stefa]

What worries me the most is to win this race we need excelent strategy...

[nani_s23]

What worries me the most is to win this race we need excelent strategy...

Even more is our race pace.

If leclerc & Sainz can have strong pace, they themselves can control their strategies. That should be the norm going forward. Rather than trusting our pit wall.

I can’t take trolls in social media everytime when ferrari make blunders. This is getting too often

[ferrari1.8t]

What worries me the most is to win this race we need excelent strategy...

Not so sure strategy is enough. We know that RedBull is faster than us, and now Merc have proved over the last two races that they are faster on race pace as well. We may come 5-6 if Ferrari didn’t find something.