2022 Singapore Grand Prix - Race Thread

[tifosi1993]

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[wisepie]

Can't believe I'm the first to add to this thread, just because Max is uncatchable on the WDC championship doesn't mean we have to desert our team. We've had too much agony this season, so no predictions from me, just hoping for the best possible result in what could be a difficult race.:pray

[stefa]

What is the weather forecast for the race?

[stefa]

Just saw. Heavy rain right now

[jgonzalesm6]

Just saw. Heavy rain right now

I'm getting images of Spa2021.......2 laps behind the safety car and call it a "race.":roll

[Greig]

Start delayed

[Greig]

Rain easing off now so hopefully not too much of a delay.

[Greig]

Race start in an hour, no idea why they need to wait so long.

[stefa]

Race start in an hour, no idea why they need to wait so long.

What?!?! :-E

[ferrari1.8t]

I thought it said 20:05?

[Greig]

I thought it said 20:05?

Formation lap 21.05

[Rob]

Is there good reliable stream for the race please?

[elnano14]

F1 nowaday...
Why bother bring or even product wet tyres when FIA don't allow teams to race under those conditions ? What the **** is the point of it ? What a ****ing yoke

[elnano14]

Is there good reliable stream for the race please?

http://yn.freestreams-live1.com/sky-sports-f1-live-streaming2/?fbclid=IwAR1KGXya9gCXdGlHc-bwflkbP-iQQ8eqCWW2StXXTJoaimfM0ik671fDIv8
Choose stream 2

[stefa]

An hour delay?!?!? This is realy just a circus now. This is not F1 tacing!

[Hornet]

Its nighttime, I don't think the track is going to dry that much on its own. Not sure why it need to be delayed that long

I hope we dont have more rain coming later on, or there wont be a race already.

[ferrari1.8t]

Formation lap 21.05

:thumb

[elnano14]

https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status/1576541892354842625?s=20&t=Jk9dtkUyP5bB67r-q20QDA
Race now scheduled to start at 2105. It's set to be a timed race and we won't get the full distance - in theory the cut-off is 2300, and then there will be one more lap and then the flag.
FIA is a yoke

[Rob]

http://yn.freestreams-live1.com/sky-sports-f1-live-streaming2/?fbclid=IwAR1KGXya9gCXdGlHc-bwflkbP-iQQ8eqCWW2StXXTJoaimfM0ik671fDIv8
Choose stream 2

Cheers

[stefa]

What is use of rain tyres if they are not using them when is wet?!?

[Rob]

https://twitter.com/adamcooperF1/status/1576541892354842625?s=20&t=Jk9dtkUyP5bB67r-q20QDA
Race now scheduled to start at 2105. It's set to be a timed race and we won't get the full distance - in theory the cut-off is 2300, and then there will be one more lap and then the flag.
FIA is a yoke

The pinnacle of motorsports will not run in the wet with extreme wet tyres.

[nani_s23]

According to @ZS_Racing and @motorsportcomtr…

Red Bull have been fined 7.5m euros and given less wind tunnel time due to exceeding the budget cap.


:rotfl …. F1 comedy continues

[patrese86]

The sport is ran by morons. I've had enough.

[stefa]

According to @ZS_Racing and @motorsportcomtr…

Red Bull have been fined 7.5m euros and given less wind tunnel time due to exceeding the budget cap.


:rotfl …. F1 comedy continues

This is a mild slap on a wrist, with saying, please do not do this in future.

[nani_s23]

Few say above source is not true. Let’s wait for official confirmation. Until then everything is rumour.

But if it true, then sorry F1 is in very bad shape. Earlier last week, ex- ferrari president LDM said Ferrari need to play it politically. This has been missing since long time.

[elnano14]

I think Binotto + Toto won't leave it alone if that's truly the penalty
The money fine is a joke, however the cutting off wind tunnel + CFD time can have massive effect on development

[458 Italia]

It's rather pointless they can't complete full race distance because there has been some rain.

[drax]

Clean start please let’s go

[stefa]

Terrible start from CL

[458 Italia]

Waiting to hear hamilton crying about being overtaken

[458 Italia]

There we go! :rotfl

[elnano14]

Gap between Charles and Carlos is too big

[stefa]

SC

[drax]

I think a VSC would be enough

[stefa]

I think a VSC would be enough

Agree

[458 Italia]

Stick a tow rope on it and just drag the thing through the gap.

[drax]

Race will end at 2 hours unless it dries up fast

[stefa]

How long it takes them to move one car?!?!?!?

[patrese86]

Anything to help Max.

[458 Italia]

How long it takes them to move one car?!?!?!?

Far too long.

[JPMFerrari]

Max on the charge the pack, it's inevitable he'll win the championship this race.

[jgonzalesm6]

Max on the charge the pack, it's inevitable he'll win the championship this race.

I doubt it.....Suzuka for sure.

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc looses a few more tenths to Perez now - gap 1.5s.

[stefa]

Both Ferrari falling behing SP

[drax]

Charles is just managing the gap

[stefa]

CS cannot manage more rhan one second in front of LH

[stefa]

CS falling like a rock!

[da_one]

Pit crew are discussing how to ruin the boys' races:lol

[458 Italia]

Such an underwhelming race.

[drax]

Now I think Charles tires are shot

[patrese86]

As usual deg is killing us.

[stefa]

Tires gone. Both CL and CS falling massivly behind SP

[drax]

Why now is VSC and before it was a full SC ?

[458 Italia]

Here we go another long wait to remove a car right next to a gap :roll

[hakanabi]

So why one is sc and the other one is vsc??? This race directors are bunch of clowns really

[Greig]

So why one is sc and the other one is vsc??? This race directors are bunch of clowns really

1st one was because marshalls had to go on track and remove the debris.

[458 Italia]

Right so why was that so much quicker than the last one?

[Greig]

Right so why was that so much quicker than the last one?

There was no debris on the track?

[hakanabi]

1st one was because marshalls had to go on track and remove the debris.

Ok, thank you for clarification Greig. :-)

[ferrari1.8t]

CS falling like a rock!

Unable to keep up with Charles and about to be passed by hamilton. Then others on this forum wonder why we call him a #2.

[SB92]

Unable to keep up with Charles and about to be passed by hamilton. Then others on this forum wonder why we call him a #2.

He wasnt the one who lost the position at the start though. Can we pls stop slagging off the drivers?

[Greig]

VSC again

[SB92]

Ferrari really need to do sth about the tyre degradation problem. Its awful to see pole after pole being lost, even when there are no strategy blunders involved. The car just looks lost after the first third of the race.

[patrese86]

Everytime there's a VSC we always lose time compared to everyone else.e

[da_one]

Then overtake Lewis :-!

[stefa]

CS really slow

[da_one]

How is Leclerc losing time??!!!

[patrese86]

Carlos drives the car to it's expected level. It's Charles who at times exerts more from the car, gets more out of it than what he should.

The car isn't even that good.

[SB92]

Carlos drives the car to it's expected level. It's Charles who at times exerts more from the car, gets more out of it than what he should.

The car isn't even that good.

No I think that the car is the fastest over 1 lap. The issue rn is the baffling fall in race pace. Charles is unable to keep up with Perez either.

[Greig]

lol Lewis

[patrese86]

Hahaha

[Cheeseman]

Hamilton hahaha

[da_one]

is it time for dry tires?

[Cheeseman]

The best thing to happen in the race

[elnano14]

Time for slicks

[da_one]

I was about to doze off then Lewis happened :rotfl

[JPMFerrari]

Another slow pitstop for CL.. :-s

[stefa]

5.3 sec stop

[Greig]

Slow stop for Charles, but onto slicks....

[stefa]

CS did not pit?!?!?!?!

[Greig]

Charles missed the pitbox before anyone starts ranting....

[SB92]

Another slow pitstop for CL.. :-s

Cant even do 1 thing right, even the pit crew is full of morons.

[stefa]

They could easy double stack them

[Greig]

SC.....

[drax]

Full SC

[Cheeseman]

Crappy grand prix

[stefa]

CL is now 11 sec behind

[Greig]

CL is now 11 sec behind

SC though.

[stefa]

SC though.

Saved by it

[da_one]

Mclaren boys get lucky

[JPMFerrari]

Mclaren boys get lucky

They always do it seems.

[Cheeseman]

Haha Mad Max

[Greig]

hahaha Max needs to pit.

[Cheeseman]

Max will go for fastest lap

[stefa]

What happend?! I've lost stream

[da_one]

Max can retire and party the night away and still have a massive lead in the championship. He had nothing to lose for trying something stupid :lol

[Greig]

Cmon Charles....

[Tifoso Svedese]

Double restart violation by Pérez (uneven pace and pass the safety car before pit entry).

Will probably get away with it knowing how much the FIA loves that team.

[stefa]

Let's go Charles!!!

[hakanabi]

Surely they should enable drs now?:-D

[drax]

DRS Enabled

[Greig]

DRS, cmon Charles.

[stefa]

DRS enabled

[elnano14]

Sainz 8s behind and losing time to Lando ???

[stefa]

On the other hand CS will be passed by LN

[da_one]

Charles just needs to avoid the damp parts of the track :pray

[elnano14]

Lol Sainz 1s slower per lap than Leclerc. His race today is a joke

[hakanabi]

Looks like redbull turned up their engines

[da_one]

I hope Charles' tires hold up :pray

[stefa]

Cmon!

[stefa]

It seams CS is safe now from LN

[da_one]

It's getting frustrating now. We had the pace to win this race comfortably, if it weren't for that 1st lap.

[drax]

I don’t think we can win this

[stefa]

I don’t think we can win this

I think you are right. That Red Bull is just way to fast

[Greig]

Perez investigated after the race.....why not now????

[stefa]

This is just farce

[drax]

Tires gone already ?

[stefa]

Tires gone already ?

It seams so

[patrese86]

Red Bull too quick In a straight line. Even with DRS it's not enough

Now Charles tyres are done

[The Hajj]

Perez investigated after the race.....why not now????

Because F1 has become “Entertainment” instead of racing

[stefa]

Because F1 has become “Entertainment” instead of racing

Exactly!!

[da_one]

Charles should just finish within 5 sec of Checo just in case

[stefa]

SP will just build more than 5 sec, they will give him 5 sec penalty and that's it

[stefa]

CL is now on + 3 sec

[stefa]

SP FL

[fratelliferrari]

How many laps to go?

[Greig]

How many laps to go?

Will end in 7 mins, so prob 4 laps.

[stefa]

How many laps to go?

Lesa than 8 minutes. It is race against time

[fratelliferrari]

I can’t watch sadly. Do we chill have a chance to win this after the race or will RB get away with a penalty like usual?

[Greig]

I can’t watch sadly. Do we chill have a chance to win this after the race or will RB get away with a penalty like usual?

Not going to win on the track, not sure what Perez done behind SC seems like nothing much.

[drax]

4s I don’t think we can finish bellow 5s hope I am wrong

[da_one]

Gap getting wider:furious

[stefa]

Tires cannot hold 20 laps?!?!?

[Greig]

Tires cannot hold 20 laps?!?!?

Charles has pushed too hard.

[stefa]

It is more than 5 sec

[SFTifoso]

These guys man! Can’t even keep a 5 second gap. They’ll give him a 5 second penalty and the win smh

[patrese86]

Charles plus 5

ffs

[drax]

Our tire management is horrible

[da_one]

Comedy of errors by Ham:rotfl

[stefa]

Charles has pushed too hard.

Back in a day they ware pushing a lot

[Tifoso Svedese]

Disgraceful car development. Absolutely embarrassing to lose to a second-rate driver like this because the car is just too bad. Doesn't matter that Charles would gap him 0.5 s/lap in the same car when you bring a tractor.

[patrese86]

The degredation is shocking..fix it for next season you absolute idiots

[patrese86]

Lost 2.4 seconds in 2 and a half minutes

[Greig]

2-3 not the worst, good points haul from Merc.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I think my season is going to be binned off now since this was the last chance to win a race. Might as well watch the NFL on the American evening races over this. Losing to Pérez in Singapore while we have the best street circuit driver on the grid in the car. Absolutely pathetic from team leadership and the engineers.

[elnano14]

I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed

[Whatsyourangle]

Horrible performance by the scuderia. Shameful.

[Greig]

I think my season is going to be binned off now since this was the last chance to win a race. Might as well watch the NFL on the American evening races over this. Losing to Pérez in Singapore while we have the best street circuit driver on the grid in the car. Absolutely pathetic from team leadership and the engineers.

Do we???

[Tifoso Svedese]

To summarize:

2017 wins: 5
2018 wins: 6
2022 wins with a better car than both on paper: 4

Wowsers. Binotto out.

[da_one]

It's like we are 2002 Williams. Great on getting pole, but couldn't convert it to wins sigh:-s

[hakanabi]

2-3 not the worst, good points haul from Merc.

Yes, but our tyre degration is just awfully bad.

[drax]

Not a bad result but we really need to figure out our tire degradation issues

[Whatsyourangle]

Charles isn't champioship material. Enough said.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Do we???

You have to go back until 2019 to find the last time he didn't get pole on a proper street circuit (Monaco, Baku, Singapore). Only one of those times he had the best car for the task (Monaco '22).

[Cheeseman]

Congrats to Perez. Boring race really. We are no match for the Red Bull. I'd be surprised if we bring any more updates for the rest of the year. We'll just be tickling the package we have now toll Abu Dhabi

[Greig]

People are still shocked and angry that Red Bull is a better race car than us???

[Tifoso Svedese]

Why are you not angry Greig? What's in your tap water? :rotfl

Seriously, this car ran circles around everyone in Australia and seven months later Sainz can hardly pull away from a McLaren!!!!!!

[Greig]

Why are you not angry Greig? What's in your tap water? :rotfl

Angry about sport? nah not for me thanks.

Been pretty clear all season our race pace is not good enough. Not sure why you have not come to terms with it by now.

[Whatsyourangle]

To summarize:

2017 wins: 5
2018 wins: 6
2022 wins with a better car than both on paper: 4

Wowsers. Binotto out.

What an awful team boss. Get out Binotto, the sooner the better. Go back to the shop and leave the racetrack.

[Tifoso Svedese]

Yeah you always seem so happy when Ferrari lose so that explains it I guess.

To be fair I'm not as angry as I would've been a few years ago. Binotto's constant waving of white flags and a certain so-called 'health emergency' kind of changed things.

[Greig]

What an awful team boss. Get out Binotto, the sooner the better. Go back to the shop and leave the racetrack.

You just said Charles is not good enough to win a title....so I think your opinion is non-valid.

[Greig]

Yeah you always seem so happy when Ferrari lose so that explains it I guess.

Being angry on the internet won't change anything, no matter how much you wish.

[The Hajj]

Charles isn't champioship material. Enough said.

Today’s F1 car is THE champion, not the driver.

[Whatsyourangle]

You just said Charles is not good enough to win a title....so I think your opinion is non-valid.

Not really. Binotto being an awful team boos doesn't detract from the fact that Leclerc is not a champioship caliber driver. Here we are talking about a combination of factors. Basically, Ferrari sucks.

[Tifoso Svedese]

I guess the people who cheered when Red Bull replaced Albon with Pérez are really happy now that it has cost two wins this season that they simply got a midfielder in there rather than bottom feeder. Not to mention he's a dirty driver who always gets away with it. Can't stand him.

[Alonsomaniac]

Charles isn't champioship material. Enough said.

Well, you are certainly no tifoso material. 16 troll posts is enough.

[Alonsomaniac]

Todays race marked two things for me. Charles was racing his heart out as always but passing was impossible and the car ate it's tyres. Losing the start meant losing the race. But Carlos......what was wrong with him? In total he lost about 40 seconds to Charles. That is not acceptable, unless something was wrong. The team up the only chance Charles had by again screwing up the stop.
Ferrari: all the qualities to win are present, now they need someone to put it all together.

[Greig]

Charles stop was slow as he missed the pitbox, not really the teams fault that one.

[JPZ]

Looking good so far to maintain second place in WCC against Mercedes.

For those objectives, a good result today.

[Alonsomaniac]

Charles stop was slow as he missed the pitbox, not really the teams fault that one.


Looked at it again, you are right. He slided too far.

[Hornet]

Red Bull's car have been proven to be strong in most circuit, so its no surprise that they are the fastest at Singapore too.

Our only hope was that Max wasn't fighting for the win today, and Perez haven't been at the same level as Max so maybe there was a chance we could win this.
But today Perez certainly did perform well, and so there was nothing we could do to overcome the performance gap.

2-3 was probably the best we could achieve, and our drivers did well to stay out of trouble while the likes of Lewis and Max was making errors.

[samboozik]

How long should it take these clowns to reach a decision on the penalties?

[Cheeseman]

Still had the F1 channel on in the background. Heard someone talking like a massive victim and sure enough it's Lewis in an interview:roll

[wisepie]

Not surprised we didn't win but feel fairly OK with P2/3 to extend our gap to Merc, Charles drove his heart out as usual but not sure why he dropped so far behind Perez towards the end, tyres? Carlos kept it on the track but couldn't match Charles, and there were a few hairy moments with Charles chasing Perez, thankfully both cars made it home in one piece. Charles had good race pace today in very tricky (and slower) conditions, but still way off RB.

[jgonzalesm6]

How long should it take these clowns to reach a decision on the penalties?

If it's Perez your referring to, then Perez just got a reprimand for the 1st offense and a 5 second penalty for the 2nd offense.

[Greig]

5s pen for Perez lol

He also done it at the 1st Safety Car....

[stasera]

checo cerez burn out his tyres, how it has happened idk but he still faster than us. it can be seen clearly that our cars are equal to mercs not RB anymore.

something happened after France, we were suberb untill french gp. but in hungary and after hungary, we fell down drastically.

[Whatsyourangle]

Well, you are certainly no tifoso material. 16 troll posts is enough.

Quite a wrong assumption. I have been a member of this board since 2006 but lost my account once I had to reformat the HD on one of my PCs. I'v been around here longer than most.

[Alonsomaniac]

5s pen for Perez lol

He also done it at the 1st Safety Car....

He got 5 sec and a reprimand. I can live with that, after all the the faults did not influence the outcome. Perez deserved the win. Charles gave it his all but just could not do it.

[Alonsomaniac]

Question: what is the minimum Charles needs to prevent Max from becoming champion in Japan? Would be nice if he could do that. Like to see the disappointed faces at RBR......

[RossTheBoss]

Question: what is the minimum Charles needs to prevent Max from becoming champion in Japan? Would be nice if he could do that. Like to see the disappointed faces at RBR......
Second place and fastest lap by Leclerc would push the championship to the US by 1 point.

[Alonsomaniac]

Second place and fastest lap by Leclerc would push the championship to the US by 1 point.

That would be nice..............love to see the disappointed faces at RB if he manages to do that.

[RossTheBoss]

That would be nice..............love to see the disappointed faces at RB if he manages to do that.
I believe if Sainz and Leclerc pull off two more double podiums, then Ferrari could clinch second in the WCC at Mexico by simply scoring.

[WS6TransAm01]

Another pole position wasted.

[FerrariF60]

Charles's race was lost at the start. Did he actually start in 2nd gear as some of the other drivers did, or in 1st?? i know they showed the onboard replay of the start from his cockpit but cannot recall.

he did put pressure on perez all race long though, especially after the last safety car when ALL were on slick tires; he was pushing SO hard that he almost lost it a couple of times.

red bull STILL seems to have better traction out of slower corners compared to us, we are a bit better then the last few races but still NOT where we were at teh beginning of the season.

if our car had better traction and able to follow a bit closer coming out of the penultimate corner before the straight and with DRS maybe Charles would have sent one down the inside but he was always that bit farther back and hard for him to pass

that red bull is insanly fast on the straights, maybe Ferrari should consider that for next season and make the aero a bit more efficient so that we too have a bit more straight line speed.

had Charles not lost the position at the start, i think it would have been really hard for Perez to pass him, unless we were again chewing tires more then teh red bull

oh well, onwards and upwards....at least we exteneded our lead to merc in WCC and ROLL ON SUZUKA where we'll wee how we stack up against RED FOOLS

[FerrariF60]

Second place and fastest lap by Leclerc would push the championship to the US by 1 point.

SECOND PLACE????? i thought Harry potter stated that we're gonna fight for race wins at every race till the end of the season

is suzuka a track that we're not gonna keep up wiht red fools and aim for the win??

[subfire91]

People are still shocked and angry that Red Bull is a better race car than us???

IF they smashed the budget cap of course they will be better. They developed it much more when they were not allowed to.

[nani_s23]

Charles's race was lost at the start. Did he actually start in 2nd gear as some of the other drivers did, or in 1st?? i know they showed the onboard replay of the start from his cockpit but cannot recall.

he did put pressure on perez all race long though, especially after the last safety car when ALL were on slick tires; he was pushing SO hard that he almost lost it a couple of times.

red bull STILL seems to have better traction out of slower corners compared to us, we are a bit better then the last few races but still NOT where we were at teh beginning of the season.

if our car had better traction and able to follow a bit closer coming out of the penultimate corner before the straight and with DRS maybe Charles would have sent one down the inside but he was always that bit farther back and hard for him to pass

that red bull is insanly fast on the straights, maybe Ferrari should consider that for next season and make the aero a bit more efficient so that we too have a bit more straight line speed.

had Charles not lost the position at the start, i think it would have been really hard for Perez to pass him, unless we were again chewing tires more then teh red bull

oh well, onwards and upwards....at least we exteneded our lead to merc in WCC and ROLL ON SUZUKA where we'll wee how we stack up against RED FOOLS

It’s simple … no math needed.

Ferrari is quali car
RB is race car.

Ferrari car tyre deg is heavy. They fall of the cliff very quickly. Where as for Merc & RB they have better at tyre management.

[subfire91]

It’s simple … no math needed.

Ferrari is quali car
RB is race car.

Ferrari car tyre deg is heavy. They fall of the cliff very quickly. Where as for Merc & RB they have better at tyre management.

totally agree.

which wasnt the case during the 1st half. they need to find what went wrong if it was not due to the TD

[Alonsomaniac]

SECOND PLACE????? i thought Harry potter stated that we're gonna fight for race wins at every race till the end of the season

is suzuka a track that we're not gonna keep up wiht red fools and aim for the win??

The question was, what the minimum was that Leclerc needs to push the championship past Japan. And that is second place.
Of course he will go for the win.

[Alonsomaniac]

It’s simple … no math needed.

Ferrari is quali car
RB is race car.

Ferrari car tyre deg is heavy. They fall of the cliff very quickly. Where as for Merc & RB they have better at tyre management.

Many years ago, Max and Charles both have been driving for Van Amersfoort Racing.
When asked about these two, Frits van Amersfoort said: "The difference between Charles and Max is very small. A combination of their talents would give you the best driver in the world. If you want pole positions, take Charles. Nobody in the world is as fast over one lap as he is. But if you want to win the race, take Max. It's not much, but over a whole race distance, he is just a little bit faster than Charles".

So, what can we learn from this? We need a better car for the race. Pole positions will come anyway.

[FerrariF60]

Many years ago, Max and Charles both have been driving for Van Amersfoort Racing.
When asked about these two, Frits van Amersfoort said: "The difference between Charles and Max is very small. A combination of their talents would give you the best driver in the world. If you want pole positions, take Charles. Nobody in the world is as fast over one lap as he is. But if you want to win the race, take Max. It's not much, but over a whole race distance, he is just a little bit faster than Charles".

So, what can we learn from this? We need a better car for the race. Pole positions will come anyway.

Well we had that, a better car for the race at the beginning of the season
We had a car that was good both on quali runs as well as race pace; I think somehow this new TD has hampered us with traction issues out of slow to medium corners which may be the reason for our race pace as well as tyre wear.

It can’t be due to suspension as we did not change anything (as far as I can tell)
So I’m sure Ferrari will try and fix all this for next year
What is certain is that red bull still have an advantage on top speed (not as much as before) so maybe Ferrari will look at this too as to how to make the car more efficient and less draggy

[stefa]

8086
This looks deppressing

[FerrariF60]

8086
This looks deppressing

Totally depressing
That could have been US have we had better reliability, better strategy as well as less mistakes from our drivers, and by that I mean Charles

But when a driver pushes to the limit and beyond I guess sometimes mistakes are inevitable

Hopefully next year Ferrari will give our drivers a better more reliable car, our strategies will be more spot on and then the drivers better deliver the results

[The Hajj]

Totally depressing
That could have been US have we had better reliability, better strategy as well as less mistakes from our drivers, and by that I mean Charles

But when a driver pushes to the limit and beyond I guess sometimes mistakes are inevitable

Hopefully next year Ferrari will give our drivers a better more reliable car, our strategies will be more spot on and then the drivers better deliver the results

What does it take to get people to understand that in this era of Formula Dull Green Borefests that the car is by far more important than the driver? Furthermore, unless the car is good from day one, and developed effectively throughout the early season, no driver or perfect team strategy will produce many wins.

Did Two Chains forget how to drive? How about Alonso and Vettel? Do you think they are just plodding along for a paycheck? The dream of “fairness” and “equality” in F1 has ruined what made it the greatest racing formula. Instead of teams pushing everything to the limit, we now have them preaching social justice and whining about “budgets”.

It’s a damn shame.

[stefa]

Totally depressing
That could have been US have we had better reliability, better strategy as well as less mistakes from our drivers, and by that I mean Charles

But when a driver pushes to the limit and beyond I guess sometimes mistakes are inevitable

Hopefully next year Ferrari will give our drivers a better more reliable car, our strategies will be more spot on and then the drivers better deliver the results

I hear you, and feel you pain, as every other Tifoso. What got my eye is HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR.... That is a phrase we are preaching for decades now....

[Brembo]

Forget about 2023 results. it's 2022 that were enjoying! Each and every race is great not knowing ahead who will win. R Bull ! What happened? :rotfl GOAT ? Where are you? Perez' Sainz; Leclerc; make it all worth watching !

[FerrariF60]

I hear you, and feel you pain, as every other Tifoso. What got my eye is HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR.... That is a phrase we are preaching for decades now....

at this point Stefa, that's ALL US fans can hope for........we have absolutely NO power to change anything...Ferrari as a team has to do that within IF THEY WANT to win a championship next year as i'm sure the battle will be NOT only between TWO team, but rather THREE as i'm sure Merc will NOT be building another TURD two years in a row

but if that happens, i'm looking forward for a THREE way battle

[Cavallino]

It’s simple … no math needed.

Ferrari is quali car
RB is race car.

Ferrari car tyre deg is heavy. They fall of the cliff very quickly. Where as for Merc & RB they have better at tyre management.

Leclerc said after the race that he suspects the Red Bull can get the tyres into a better window after a couple laps, get better performance and longevity.

I agree, but I think this race showed, that not only does Red Bull have better tyre longevity, they also heat them up quicker! Look how Maxipad was able to pass people at each restart! It also explains Leclerc's poor start off the line.

Not only do they heat the tyres quicker, they can make them last longer too.

[FerrariF60]

Leclerc said after the race that he suspects the Red Bull can get the tyres into a better window after a couple laps, get better performance and longevity.

I agree, but I think this race showed, that not only does Red Bull have better tyre longevity, they also heat them up quicker! Look how Maxipad was able to pass people at each restart! It also explains Leclerc's poor start off the line.

Not only do they heat the tyres quicker, they can make them last longer too.

I would have to disagree with yiu on that one
Last safety car when all went to slicks, it took checko 2 laps or so to bring the slicks to temp while Charles had no issues and he was up attacking him and riding his a s s the whole two laps up until Perez had the tires to temp which after he was gone

Our issue is the traction out of slow corners, we seem to have lost that and could not follow Perez close enough before the straight when Charles could use DRS; that and also red bull is a much aero efficient car which has plenty of straight line speed even without drs

[Silent Bob]

I would have to disagree with yiu on that one
Last safety car when all went to slicks, it took checko 2 laps or so to bring the slicks to temp while Charles had no issues and he was up attacking him and riding his a s s the whole two laps up until Perez had the tires to temp which after he was gone

Our issue is the traction out of slow corners, we seem to have lost that and could not follow Perez close enough before the straight when Charles could use DRS; that and also red bull is a much aero efficient car which has plenty of straight line speed even without drs


There was basically no passing among the top 7 cars. It's the track. If Charles was in front at the start, Perez wouldn't be able.to pass him either.

[tifosi1993]

Red Bull have updated the rear suspension 4 times this year, Mercedes have updated the rear suspensions frequently. Even Mclaren brought updated suspensions on two different occasions.

But the suspensions of F1-75 remained the same, launch spec.

[wisepie]

Red Bull have updated the rear suspension 4 times this year, Mercedes have updated the rear suspensions frequently. Even Mclaren brought updated suspensions on two different occasions.

But the suspensions of F1-75 remained the same, launch spec.

Weren't Ferrari supposed to be getting revised rear suspension after the summer break? What happened to that, budget constraints?!

[FerrariF60]

Weren't Ferrari supposed to be getting revised rear suspension after the summer break? What happened to that, budget restraints?!

Exactly my take on this, maybe that will come next year due to budget

[Brembo]

There was basically no passing among the top 7 cars. It's the track. If Charles was in front at the start, Perez wouldn't be able.to pass him either.

Where was Charles at the start?

[aroutis]

Where was Charles at the start?

At the wet part of the track , this is why he lost position. Duh.
Hey, have you now found peace that the team finally has a steady form of #1 and #2 ?

Good old times, right? :D

[Brembo]

At the wet part of the track , this is why he lost position. Duh.
Hey, have you now found peace that the team finally has a steady form of #1 and #2 ?

Good old times, right? :D

Someone should have told him it was wet!! Duh! :rotfl Peace for sure. I just hope Carlos can hold on to #1 a few more races! There;s not much left and he can go into 2023 as the #1 driver.

[aroutis]

Someone should have told him it was wet!! Duh! :rotfl Peace for sure. I just hope Carlos can hold on to #1 a few more races! There;s not much left and he can go into 2023 as the #1 driver.

Carlos has been relegated (and is told) that he is #2. Now, you're also told that as well.
As for Charles, he did (as always) the best he could but just like your idol, you know, lulu, he just could not hold position, on a slippery part of the track. Bad stuff happen to the best of us.

Now enjoy Ferrari racing as it should, with a clear #1, #2 order , if we had that from the beginning, things could have been better. If this makes you feel bad, I suggest a visit to your doctor *wink*

[Brembo]

Okay! Charles #1 Carlos #2 @ Ferrari. If that gets us a win and podiums before the year end I'm going to be a Charles #1 fan for sure. Sir Lewis needs 1 win before the end of the season!! :rotfl Calm down ! Masi should be in jail!!

[aroutis]

Okay! Charles #1 Carlos #2 @ Ferrari. If that gets us a win and podiums before the year end I'm going to be a Charles #1 fan for sure. Sir Lewis needs 1 win before the end of the season!! :rotfl Calm down ! Masi should be in jail!!

Lewis #westillcry needs to retire. He makes a fool of himself every time he is under pressure.
And he needs to finish without a race and behind Russel, oh what a poetic justice that will be #humblepie

[Brembo]

Lewis #westillcry needs to retire. He makes a fool of himself every time he is under pressure.
And he needs to finish without a race and behind Russel, oh what a poetic justice that will be #humblepie

103, 103, 7 should be 8. What a fool he made of everyone else trying to catch him! Ferrari needs Sir Lewis to do his final years @ F-1. I never heard the term westillcry? Is that the same meaning as GOAT ? :rotfl Enjoy the next race!!!