2022 Japanese Grand Prix - Race Thread

[tifosi1993]

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[nani_s23]

Hopefully a good result with rain around the corner.

[tifosi1993]

Doesn't look that bad tbh. Looks quite dry.

[tifosi1993]

This place is very quiet today, more than usual.

[Greig]

Looks pretty wet

[jgonzalesm6]

That's alot of spray!!1

[Greig]

Good start by Charles but Max just sent it....

[Greig]

Sainz in the barriers....

[tifosi1993]

Sainz crash.

[Greig]

SC

[Greig]

Albon stopped also

[Greig]

Carlos is ok and out the car.

[jgonzalesm6]

Sainz aquaplanned when he crashed.

[tifosi1993]

That's what, 4 times he has been crashed out of the race this season?

[tifosi1993]

RF

[Greig]

Red Flag....

[tifosi1993]

They can work on the setup under the RF

[tifosi1993]

Some people will cry about the RF but I think it's a sensible decision. Rivers are running everywhere and these are F1 cars, not boats.

[Greig]

Yeah standing water means red flag is right.

[tomism0]

FIA race control is so inconsistent in how they handle these situations. What is different between the start of this GP and Monaco?

[Decoded]

FIA race control is so inconsistent in how they handle these situations. What is different between the start of this GP and Monaco?
In Monaco the start screen with the flags did not work because there was water in the electronics :lol

[Greig]

Amazing that at this venue of all places they had a tractor on track when cars were still going round in the wet, that is why Gasly was so angry when he came into pits.

[Greig]

Restart in 15 mins

[tifosi1993]

Race will resume at 14:50 local time. Rolling start.

[Decoded]

I think we soon will hit the half point duo to time

[458 Italia]

Seems pointless to have a restart when the conditions have barely changed.

[Greig]

Seems pointless to have a restart when the conditions have barely changed.

Rain has eased off quite a bit now.

[tifosi1993]

Re start suspended

[Rishu]

Amazing that at this venue of all places they had a tractor on track when cars were still going round in the wet, that is why Gasly was so angry when he came into pits.

Unbelievable, how stupid of race control.

[stefa]

It is better not to race at all in rain, than have sitiuation like this and SPA last year

[tifosi1993]

The Liberty media wanted to bring the race forward and not have it in August, but Japanese organizers refused to budge.

I'd say drop Suzuka and go elsewhere. There are many great tracks out there, e.g: Sepang.

[jgonzalesm6]

The Liberty media wanted to bring the race forward and not have it in August, but Japanese organizers refused to budge.

I'd say drop Suzuka and go elsewhere. There are many great tracks out there, e.g: Sepang.

I disagree. I would suggest reschedule the race where it is not during the monsoon season regardless of what the race organizers suggest.

[nani_s23]

The Liberty media wanted to bring the race forward and not have it in August, but Japanese organizers refused to budge.

I'd say drop Suzuka and go elsewhere. There are many great tracks out there, e.g: Sepang.

Exactly my thought. Whenever we race here, it’s always a controversy + I don’t see any dry conditions at all.
It’s better to skip the track rather than wasting the time & driver safety.

[Greig]

I disagree. I would suggest reschedule the race where it is not during the monsoon season regardless of what the race organizers suggest.

October is not the monsoon season.

[nani_s23]

I disagree. I would suggest reschedule the race where it is not during the monsoon season regardless of what the race organizers suggest.

If that’s the case, simply they would have preponed the race a 1hr earlier where it didn’t rain.
For today’s race, weather report suggested it’s rainy during this time, then why not push the schedule early?

[nani_s23]

Binotto: in dry conditions we had with 2 sets of Medium tires aside… instead it will be wet. The degradation on Intermedie is high here " (On Budget cap) "The F1-75 was designed respecting the limits"

[jgonzalesm6]

October is not the monsoon season.

Or the rainy season. Suzuka is mostly a wet race during this time of year.

[jgonzalesm6]

Seems Gasly passed a red flag signal and a red flag button on his steering wheel WHILE passing the tractor on the track. Gasly was driving faster than the rest of the field behind the safety car because he was trying to catch up.

[Rishu]

Seems Gasly passed a red flag signal and a red flag button on his steering wheel WHILE passing the tractor on the track. Gasly was driving faster than the rest of the field behind the safety car because he was trying to catch up.

Still, you cannot have a tractor bang on race track when a car is out there

[jgonzalesm6]

Still, you cannot have a tractor bang on race track when a car is out there

agreed.

[Greig]

Seems Gasly passed a red flag signal and a red flag button on his steering wheel WHILE passing the tractor on the track. Gasly was driving faster than the rest of the field behind the safety car because he was trying to catch up.

Red Flag was thrown about 0.5 seconds before he encountered the tractor.

[jgonzalesm6]

Red Flag was thrown about 0.5 seconds before he encountered the tractor.

Gasly being investigated for speeding under red flag conditions (reaching speeds of 250kph) when completing the lap under the red flag after passing the scene of the incident.

[Greig]

Gasly being investigated for speeding under red flag conditions (reaching speeds of 250kph) when completing the lap under the red flag after passing the scene of the incident.

Does not make it ok for the tractor to be there.

[Greig]

Only 1 hour 30 mins left can't see there being any racing tbh.

[Rishu]

Jules’ father on Insta

8088

[jgonzalesm6]

Does not make it ok for the tractor to be there.

The whole blame is not on the recovery vehicle. Maybe the recovery vehicle needs brighter lights under these conditions so drivers can see the vehicle better.

At the same time, driving too fast under these conditions given the red flag conditions on the signals on the side of the track and on Gasly's steering wheel is also a factor.

Jules was driving too fast under the same conditions.

[Greig]

The whole blame is not on the recovery vehicle. Maybe the recovery vehicle needs brighter lights under these conditions so drivers can see the vehicle better.

At the same time, driving too fast under these conditions given the red flag conditions on the signals on the side of the track and on Gasly's steering wheel is also a factor.

Wow you are incredible.

Red Flag was given half a second before Gasly got to the tractor.

[jgonzalesm6]

Jules’ father on Insta

8088

His father is comparing Suzuka 2022 and Suzuka 2014. Jules was driving faster than 250kph and under VSC/SC conditions while the track was wet.

[Greig]

His father is comparing Suzuka 2022 and Suzuka 2014. Jules was driving faster than 250kph and under VSC/SC conditions while the track was wet.

Go away.

[paolo lalli]

Both parties to blame race control and rather reckless by Pierre to be driving at such a speed in those atrocious conditions.

[Rishu]

His father is comparing Suzuka 2022 and Suzuka 2014. Jules was driving faster than 250kph and under VSC/SC conditions while the track was wet.

I think it’s the tractor on the race track, that is what he is comparing

[jgonzalesm6]

Go away.

So you think the tractor hauling off Sutil's car on the Dunlop curve and under VSC/SC at Suzuka 2014 was the race controls fault for having a tractor on the track??

[tifosi1993]

I don't think we'll have a race today.

[jgonzalesm6]

I think it’s the tractor on the race track, that is what he is comparing

Completely different situations given Suzuka 2014 and Suzuka 2022.

[Greig]

So you think the tractor hauling off Sutil's car on the Dunlop curve and under VSC/SC at Suzuka 2014 was the race controls fault for having a tractor on the track??

Yes I do and the lesson should have been learned.

[Decoded]

Is there any news about repairing Carlos car?

[Greig]

Is there any news about repairing Carlos car?

Car just returned to garage.

[jgonzalesm6]

Yes I do and the lesson should have been learned.

Do you have any idea what Jules impact was with regards to g-forces was when he hit the tractor?

Do you have any idea what the safety conditions were on the track when Jules hit the tractor?

Or that just doesn't matter? According to you, what happened at Suzuka in 2014 was that a tractor was off the track hauling Sutils car off the dirt/gravel portion of the track next to the tire barriers or armco and therefore it's race control fault for having a tractor (off track) hauling another car.

[Greig]

Do you have any idea what Jules impact was with regards to g-forces was when he hit the tractor?

Do you have any idea what the safety conditions where on the track when Jules hit the tractor?

Or that just doesn't matter? According to you, what happened at Suzuka in 2014 was that a tractor was off the track hauling Sutils car off the dirt/gravel portion of the track next to the tire barriers or armco.

I know all about it, lessons should have been learned.

Seems every driver is in agreement that it should not have happened, so I will accept their views long before your armchair garbage.

[jgonzalesm6]

I know all about it, lessons should have been learned.

Seems every driver is in agreement that it should not have happened, so I will accept their views long before your armchair garbage.

So you don't believe in slowing down at Suzuka 2014 with regards to Jules incident???

And what if the FIA gives Gasly a reprimand or penalty for driving too fast??

[Greig]

10 mins to restart.

[Greig]

So you don't believe in slowing down at Suzuka 2014 with regards to Jules incident???

And what if the FIA gives Gasly a reprimand or penalty for driving too fast??

I believe lessons should have been learned and seems the whole grid agrees.

[Timpolidori]

I bet it doesn’t

[tifosi1993]

Hmmm

[Greig]

have to do at least 2 racing laps without SC to get any points. Might see 30 mins of racing?

[Greig]

We are going racing....

[tifosi1993]

Just need to survive. 18 is better than 0 points.

[tifosi1993]

Time for inters

[patrese86]

We should of pit the lap before

[gump1480]

Lec's tires are gone already !!

[patrese86]

As soon as we push the tyres die. Unbelievable

Considering the potential of the car it must be the worst on the grid with tyre deg, no other car loses performance to this extent relative to its potential.

[drax]

The car is still eating up it’s tires

[Greig]

Perez will prob catch Charles

[gump1480]

We are slower than Ocon !! Inters dying in 2 laps....same issue as in FP

[KimiBot]

Perez is much faster too.

[Aziz]

Perez is much faster too.

Tiers are gone

[patrese86]

This has been an issue before TD39, it was an issue at Imola where Charles was losing time and ended up binning it because he was fighting the car.

[Aziz]

This has been an issue before TD39, it was an issue at Imola where Charles was losing time and ended up binning it because he was fighting the car.

The car is not as good as RB, plain and simple

[drax]

Just two more laps, hopefully Charles can hold on to p2

[Greig]

Oooops Charles....

[tifosi1993]

Well done Charles. That was a struggle. But superb job nonetheless.

[drax]

Don’t know if Charles is not going to get a penalty

[patrese86]

He's gonna lose that place

[Greig]

Charles will lose that place for sure.

[gump1480]

Penalty incoming for LEC.

[drax]

How did he not know it was the last lap

[stefa]

I was not able to see the end of the racw? What CL did?! Anyway this is depeessing. We are not going to win ANY race more this year

[Greig]

I was not able to see the end of the racw? What CL did?! Anyway this is depeessing. We are not going to win ANY race more this year

Mistake in final chicane so missed it then blocked off Perez.

[tifosi1993]

5 seconds time penalty for Charles

[Greig]

5s pen for Charles so P3.

[Greig]

Max has won title?

[KimiBot]

Max has won title?

Yes

[jgonzalesm6]

Max has won title?

Yep

[Greig]

Well done Max superior car and he has driven well all season.

Let's see the budgets though :-D

[Schumiklub]

I don't see how he gained an advantage by missing the chicane. He was already in front.

[SB92]

Well done Max superior car and he has driven well all season.

Let's see the budgets though :-D
Hardly the superior car, Binotto us up with poor reliability, strategy and the awful response to TD39.

[Greig]

I don't see how he gained an advantage by missing the chicane. He was already in front.

Yeah kind of agree not like Perez was making a move or going to pass.

[Greig]

Hardly the superior car, Binotto us up with poor reliability, strategy and the awful response to TD39.

So a superior car then? Red Bull have been strong all season.

[nani_s23]

Wts interesting here is, stewards are pretty quick in giving time penalty for Leclerc.

[KimiBot]

It is anyways like Charles said: It was only matter of time when Max is going to win the title.

[Schumiklub]

Yeah kind of agree not like Perez was making a move or going to pass.

I mean these baboons on F1TV saying he gained a lasting advantage by missing the chicane and not giving Perez the chance to pass after that?! Seriously, that's no explanation. Like nobody ever blocked anyone from passing before. If he had done that without missing the chicane it wouldn't have been an issue? I don't understand these decisions any more.

[nani_s23]

Well done Max superior car and he has driven well all season.

Let's see the budgets though :-D

Let’s not count on it. Nothing will be the outcome.

It’s just waste of time. Time to Focus on next season.

Charles looks very disappointed in the interview.

[Greig]

Why was it a full point race?

[nani_s23]

It is anyways like Charles said: It was only matter of time when Max is going to win the title.

Problem is again back to square one. Tyre management.

Wtever tyres we use, they go off the cliff pretty soon. Same 2019 all over again.

[stefa]

Mistake in final chicane so missed it then blocked off Perez.

Thanks

[KimiBot]

Is this going to continue to 2026, I mean Max is going to win all titles so long when new engines is coming 2026 or what?

[jgonzalesm6]

Why was it a full point race?

50% more laps

[jgonzalesm6]

Let’s not count on it. Nothing will be the outcome.

It’s just waste of time. Time to Focus on next season.

Charles looks very disappointed in the interview.

+1

Soap opera this budget cap.

[stefa]

Why was it a full point race?

Same question here?!?! Wasn't this supposed to be 19 points for the win?!

[Schumiklub]

Is this going to continue to 2026, I mean Max is going to win all titles so long when new engines is coming 2026 or what?

I don't think we have a bad engine and reliability improvements are allowed, so if we ever fix our engine reliability issues and can use full power we should be good IF we build a good car.

[nani_s23]

Is this going to continue to 2026, I mean Max is going to win all titles so long when new engines is coming 2026 or what?

Mercs are on back foot & we are struggling to find solution for tyre deg. There’s no other team
To stop RB now.

I’m seeing the dominance from RB till 2026 similar to Vettel-RB era.

[nani_s23]

Penalty was very fast for Leclerc …. I did understand why it was 5sec penalty.

Sergio didn’t make a move, leclerc was ahead & missed the chicane. Joined back on track ahead only. Wts the point of gaining an advantage here?

[KimiBot]

I don't think we have a bad engine and reliability improvements are allowed, so if we ever fix our engine reliability issues and can use full power we should be good IF we build a good car.

Thanks, so we still have some hope left.


Charles did a great job today and Congrats to Max.

[Greig]

Ferrari should appeal the penalty :-D

[paolo lalli]

Max to good redbull superior and Charles needs to learn a little more, a great driver but not ready to be world champion yet.

[stefa]

So a superior car then? Red Bull have been strong all season.

Yes, and a great driver

[gump1480]

Problem is again back to square one. Tyre management.

Wtever tyres we use, they go off the cliff pretty soon. Same 2019 all over again.

Whoever is the designer of the Ferrari cars off late is making some fundamental mistakes....every year our cars are either pathetic on tires or too draggy...and it gets exacerbated as the season progresses.

[Aziz]

Whoever is the designer of the Ferrari cars off late is making some fundamental mistakes....every year our cars are either pathetic on tires or too draggy...and it gets exacerbated as the season progresses.

That's because we have mediocre staff and an idiot for TP

[tifosi1993]

The F1-75 was used to be very good on tyres. But RB has been pouring money while Ferrari adhered to budget cap and we're seeing the end result here.

[nani_s23]

Binotto: "Congratulations to Max. I don't want to comment on the penalty because it is ridiculous and unacceptable that they spent 3 hours in Singapore, only a few minutes here. Today they didn't want to hear from the pilots, in Singapore they did. Charles didn't take advantage" .

[nani_s23]

Binotto: "They came to a decision very quickly, without even hearing from the drivers. Five seconds to Charles who we think didn't even gain an advantage... but poor Pérez, he couldn't keep up with the SC in Singapore!

[drax]

Did you guys see the state of our tires vs the RBs at the end of the race ? Ours were basically slicks theirs seemed in perfect state

[SB92]

The F1-75 was used to be very good on tyres. But RB has been pouring money while Ferrari adhered to budget cap and we're seeing the end result here.
Lets not insinuate that they did something illegal without proof. We have all seen how amazing ferrari has been all year long.

[tifosi1993]

Max to good redbull superior and Charles needs to learn a little more, a great driver but not ready to be world champion yet.

So you think Vettel was ready to win the WDC back in 2010 against Alonso? Alonso was, is and always will be the superior driver and even then he couldn't beat Vettel and RB.

The current RB, as a team, are way better than Ferrari. I can list all the mistakes Ferrari have and still making this year and that list will be pretty long. But it will be very difficult for me to list Red Bull's mistakes this year cause I can't think of any, let alone many.

Charles needs the proper backing and proper support. The development, the strategy, motivation all should be there for him.

[Aziz]

We need to grow some ba...

Merc an RB have all the power in F1

[tifosi1993]

Lets not insinuate that they did something illegal without proof. We have all seen how amazing ferrari has been all year long.

The RB was way overweight. And not only they have been bringing lightweight materials, they have also been bringing aero and mechanical updates this year frequently. I'm not an accountant, but my logic says that such development would require above statutory budget.

[paolo lalli]

Let's see who get there certificate of budget compliance from the FIA tomorrow there might just be a sting in the tail of this season yet.

[nani_s23]

So you think Vettel was ready to win the WDC back in 2010 against Alonso? Alonso was, is and always will be the superior driver and even then he couldn't beat Vettel and RB.

The current RB, as a team, are way better than Ferrari. I can list all the mistakes Ferrari have and still making this year and that list will be pretty long. But it will be very difficult for me to list Red Bull's mistakes this year cause I can't think of any, let alone many.

Charles needs the proper backing and proper support. The development, the strategy, motivation all should be there for him.

Perfectly said.

This two driver policy equal treatment & free to fight doesn’t work if you have a target to win WDC. As there is only one driver can clinch that.

Ferrari threw away 4-5 race wins this season when the car was perfect. Now that even if we take pole, it’s not guarantee that Ferrari can win. Because of our tyre deg. No solution so far.

I feel for Charles & at the same time he should stop making mistakes at critical time. I hope he gets better & better for next season.

[guro]

I do not expect nothing but penalty like 5s and you have 10s advantage...like for perez in Singapore. And that will be the last nail in the f1 coffin

[evo_spook]

Charles should have his 2nd place anyway for the simple fact the race ended one lap to early and so it should be counted back.

The race should ended on the timer + 1 lap.

What a farce.

[paolo lalli]

An anti climax to a topsy turvy season seems to sum it up.We can spend days directing the ferrari issues; dust off and next year will be here in no time.Red bull is the superior team and there team has demonstrated this clearly providing max with a crushing victory in WDC and a what will probably be a major victory in the constructors title hats off to them.

[stefa]

Congratulations to RB and MV. They are in their own league. To think that in the beginning of this season CL had 46 points advantage, and now MV is crowned champion couple of races before end with 114 points lead!?!? I mean.... WTH is Ferrari doing, thinking... or not!

[wisepie]

All I can say is that getting up at 5am to support our boys did not go well, and the penalty given to Charles so quickly was totally unfair IMO, even Binotto feels the same! Perez now ahead of Charles again so there's still something worth fighting for, although if he has a new ICE for COTA, I assume he'll get a penalty. Our tyre deg seems the worst of all the teams, Charles was lucky to get to the finish in those conditions with practically bald tyres. FIA are making too many mistakes and in any case there are too many rules and regs so it gets harder to police consistently, today was a bit of a farce. Max and RB deserved the WDC but what a pity that Ferrari the team (not just Charles or Carlos) couldn't take the heat. There was plenty of commemoration for Jules and rightly so, but this track in October just seems unsuitable.

[Brembo]

Congratulations to RB and MV. They are in their own league. To think that in the beginning of this season CL had 46 points advantage, and now MV is crowned champion couple of races before end with 114 points lead!?!? I mean.... WTH is Ferrari doing, thinking... or not!

:rotfl I cant imagine anyone here on our Ferrari forum congratulating Merc and say Sir Lewis if they would have won! 7 times "in their own league" and just hatred towards them! :rotfl

[Rishu]

Congratulations to Max, he has raised his game to another level. Hopefully Charles will have a much closer fight next year

[WS6TransAm01]

A great driver in a solid team with a good leader will always defeat a great drive in an good team with a crap leader.

Congrats Max and RedBull. Maybe Binotto can learn a thing or two but I doubt it.

What an absolute disaster this year has been. Disheartening yet again. I’m sure it’s for the good of the sport tho, right?

[MicMac]

Today's race showed how bad formula one management is...I'm seriously starting to get tired of the "no racing" because of the rain. Seriously, look at motogp last week in Buriram: worst conditions and yet they started the race and the riders had to deal with it, on 2 wheels!!! Today they stopped the race, delayed the restart by 2 hours, finally decided to start with full Web, and after one lap drivers started ton pit for inters, what a joke...Those cars drained the water on the track in like 5 laps, idk FIA must learn about it or invest in trucks drying a line on track and drivers must remember why they get paid...And this farce on the final lap. Race is over. No its not. Yes it is. Wooooow impressive FIA!!!
Today we were robbed of what could have been a great race, so disapointed with the pathetic show we witnessed, regardless of the final results of the race...

[Greig]

Moto GP also delayed for the rain though? and the track today was much worse for spray due to downforce and 4 tyres so it's not really much to compare.

[tifosi1993]

Charles vs Max (https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2022/gp/s9058/lap_times/833-821/)

Charles vs Checo (https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2022/gp/s9058/lap_times/833-785/)

Pace is there, but the car is chewing up its tyres.

The F1-75 right now is behaving like the Mercedes of 2013. Very good at generating heat but also very poor at keeping the tyres under optimal heat cycle.

[tifosi1993]

Up until the Hungarian GP, the F1-75 was very good at looking after the tyres. So I don't buy Binotto's "the TD didn't hurt us" excuse.

Just look at the Austrian and Hungarian GP, both of those races Charles had the best tyres wear. Even in France his tyre wear was better than Max.

After the TD309, the F1-75 is chewing up its tyres. There is no other logical explanation for this drastic change in tyre wear behavior.

[TTRSMAD]

Good job Binotto, he managed to throw away the development advantage we had over Red Bull and Mercedes. I miss the leadership of Sergio Marchionne. He would not have bent over to the FIA like these spineless people leading Ferrari.

TD 39 is the cause of the tire debacle and Binotto thinks people following F1 are stupid. Next year, the car better fight at the front or else that clown is going to get the boot.

[jgonzalesm6]

Gasly was penalized for driving too fast under red flag conditions while the crane was out on track.

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1579050770514968576/photo/1

[jgonzalesm6]

So much for my "armchair garbage" as someone here put it.....regardless of what the rest of the grid thinks.

Gasly takes full blame for the red flag conditions.

https://twitter.com/PierreGASLY/status/1579110418936901640?cxt=HHwWkMDR3eejkOorAAAA

https://twitter.com/PierreGASLY/status/1579110842553229314?cxt=HHwWhIDT9bu8kOorAAAA

[Greig]

So much for my "armchair garbage" as someone here put it.....regardless of what the rest of the grid thinks.

Gasly takes full blame for the red flag conditions.

https://twitter.com/PierreGASLY/status/1579110418936901640?cxt=HHwWkMDR3eejkOorAAAA

https://twitter.com/PierreGASLY/status/1579110842553229314?cxt=HHwWhIDT9bu8kOorAAAA

Shows you wrong and what everyone else said correct though. He was not speeding at the tractor, read the tweets you just posted duh.

[Alonsomaniac]

Well, Binotto and Leclerc do not agree on the penalty.
Binotto said it was not an incident deserving that penalty, while Charles said he knows what happened and that he agrees with getting a penalty for it..............

[jgonzalesm6]

Shows you wrong and what everyone else said correct though. He was not speeding at the tractor, read the tweets you just posted duh.

He was speeding into T14 and T15. I never said he was speeding by the tractor at that very instant......I said he was speeding under red flag conditions.

Do keep up.

[jgonzalesm6]

Leclerc's inter-slicks vs Max's inters.

https://twitter.com/Gianludale27/status/1579130164092362754/photo/1

[Greig]

He was speeding into T14 and T15. I never said he was speeding by the tractor at that very instant......I said he was speeding under red flag conditions.

Do keep up.

So just as everyone said, u were the one claiming the tractor on track was not the issue....do you forget what you post?

[jgonzalesm6]

So just as everyone said, u were the one claiming the tractor on track was not the issue....do you forget what you post?

This is what I said for reference. I never said the tractor on the track "was not the issue."

The whole blame is not on the recovery vehicle. Maybe the recovery vehicle needs brighter lights under these conditions so drivers can see the vehicle better.

At the same time, driving too fast under these conditions given the red flag conditions on the signals on the side of the track and on Gasly's steering wheel is also a factor.

Jules was driving too fast under the same conditions.

[Greig]

Yes I know you also blamed Jules, the red flag came out as he was right upon the tractor he was not speeding then.

All the drivers seemed to agree the tractor should not be there so at least they are aware unlike yourself on the sofa.

[jgonzalesm6]

unlike yourself on the sofa.

Aren't we all here on this forum "on the sofa" as you so eloquently put it.

[nani_s23]

Mattia Binotto was in Maranello, and not at the track in Suzuka.

"The 2022 season is ending and it is right to focus on 2023. I will probably also not be in Mexico."

"This has been an important season for us, but the next one will be even more important.”

[paolo lalli]

Yes Mr Binotto it has been an important year for ferrari f1 you have been properly schooled by Red bull on how to run an f1 team across the park, i trust that the schooling has taught you something.

[Hornet]

I'm glad they managed to eventually went racing, at least the fans got something out of the race day.

And congratulations to Max. He and his team have set a very high standard of how a F1 team should perform to win the title.

[Brembo]

I'm glad they managed to eventually went racing, at least the fans got something out of the race day.

And congratulations to Max. He and his team have set a very high standard of how a F1 team should perform to win the title.

Don't leave out congrats to Masi!!!`Very high standards for 2021 WDC!!!

[jgonzalesm6]

Tractor on track from a fans point of view. Notice the safety car and F1 cars following the safety car made it around the tractor just fine.

https://twitter.com/EngicoSaurabh/status/1579008905707151360?cxt=HHwWgIDTnfuO4ukrAAAA

[Rishu]

Tractor on track from a fans point of view. Notice the safety car and F1 cars following the safety car made it around the tractor just fine.

https://twitter.com/EngicoSaurabh/status/1579008905707151360?cxt=HHwWgIDTnfuO4ukrAAAA

Not sure man, the last two cars, Aston and Haas look a bit quick for a potential tractor collision, not to mention Gasly was going quicker unaware of the vehicle on track. In these conditions aquaplaning can happen to anyone at any time, there was no harm waiting for another 2-3 mins until SC safely collected all cars with safe speed or take them all to pit lane

[jgonzalesm6]

Not sure man, the last two cars, Aston and Haas look a bit quick for a potential tractor collision, not to mention Gasly was going quicker unaware of the vehicle on track. In these conditions aquaplaning can happen to anyone at any time, there was no harm waiting for another 2-3 mins until SC safely collected all cars with safe speed or take them all to pit lane

Gasly was penalized for driving 250kph in T14 and T15 under red flag conditions.

[Rishu]

Gasly was penalized for driving 250kph in T14 and T15 under red flag conditions.

And who will penalize race control? A driver could’ve died

[jgonzalesm6]

And who will penalize race control? A driver could’ve died

They are investigating it.

[Brembo]

Race control is " controlled " in the car by the driver when there's that kind of danger as soon as it's known there's a tractor anywhere near the track. No one in the pits should have left the drivers not knowing there was a tractor where it was. The rain and wet track had them driving blindly enough!