Frédéric Vasseur

[Greig]

If rumours are true is he the answer?

French so non Italian which will please many, has worked with Charles before. Has won a lot in lower formula's.

Not sure what else can be said, is he going to turn Ferrari into title winners?

[nani_s23]

If rumours are true is he the answer?

French so non Italian which will please many, has worked with Charles before. Has won a lot in lower formula's.

Not sure what else can be said, is he going to turn Ferrari into title winners?

Answer is no..!!

[nani_s23]

If rumours are true is he the answer?

French so non Italian which will please many, has worked with Charles before. Has won a lot in lower formula's.

Not sure what else can be said, is he going to turn Ferrari into title winners?

Answer is no..!!

[Rishu]

If rumours are true is he the answer?

French so non Italian which will please many, has worked with Charles before. Has won a lot in lower formula's.

Not sure what else can be said, is he going to turn Ferrari into title winners?

Not too optimistic, pretty much same feeling when I heard Sainz as Seb’s replacement

hopefully I get to be proved wrong if indeed rumours are true

[nani_s23]

Not too optimistic, pretty much same feeling when I heard Sainz as Seb’s replacement

hopefully I get to be proved wrong if indeed rumours are true

Mattia Binotto & Elkan expected to give a statement soon.

Mattia denied its just rumours.

[patrese86]

Well I don't know but if the rumours are true I hope he's better at making the team communicate and more decisive in their decision making.

[paneristi]

Well I don't know but if the rumours are true I hope he's better at making the team communicate and more decisive in their decision making.

exactly. Effective communication, which seems to be lacking now.

[Italian Spirit]

If rumours are true is he the answer?

French so non Italian which will please many, has worked with Charles before. Has won a lot in lower formula's.

Not sure what else can be said, is he going to turn Ferrari into title winners?


I don’t know what he can bring to the team: technically Vasseur doesn’t have, by far, the level of Binotto, “politically” (and we know how much this matters for a major F1 team) he has zero experience at high level, and finally the French connection he maintains with the disastrous Menkies doesn’t bode well.
If the rumours are true, I feel a bit depressed.

[brucewayne]

So according to Jean Alesi, there will be changes, but not necessarily regarding Binotto. Sounds promising.

[ferrari1.8t]

https://twitter.com/fanaticsferrari/status/1594005980135948288?s=21

I guess it’s a done deal?

[nani_s23]

I guess Fred will join alongside with binotto.

[tpe]

If rumours are true is he the answer?

French so non Italian which will please many, has worked with Charles before. Has won a lot in lower formula's.

Not sure what else can be said, is he going to turn Ferrari into title winners?

N.O. W.A.Y.

[tpe]

The way Binotto answered to relevant questions on Saturday of Abu Dhabi, means than FV will come to the team. To which capacity, is to be shown.

[racingbradley]

It was a Frenchman who was TP when we were on top last time, Jean Todt but he had a good team around him. Maybe Fred will bring some of his own staff.
Never say never. He could be great and Charles may shine under his leadership. {if that's his role}:pray
if he can deal with the politics it will help as Binotto puts up no fight.

[JPZ]

Perhaps Vasseur will take over as Racing Director from Mekies while Binotto remains as Team Principal and can focus on the technical department.

There were also rumours that Mekies and Rueda could be going to Alfa Romeo.

[stasera]

rueda and inaki should go away

[tpe]

Let's see.
It seems sure that he will join the team.

[WS6TransAm01]

Italian TPs have not worked.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[Toothlessrage*]

Perhaps Vasseur will take over as Racing Director from Mekies while Binotto remains as Team Principal and can focus on the technical department.

There were also rumours that Mekies and Rueda could be going to Alfa Romeo.

This sounds somewhat realistic.

But, it'll all hinge on the hope that Binnoto and Vasseur can co-exist.

[aroutis]

We should all be able to agree on the following (according to what we've been witnessing at least) :
1. Binotto has limits re: his role as a TP
2. He struggles re: his relations with Charles
3. He has excellent technical skills.

Taking into consideration the aforementioned, I think that Vasseur fits in a scenario where Binotto will delegate to him the TP duties.
He will keep (or partake) technical duties, in order to save face (Ferrari should do something in order to not show this is a demotion, at least
not at first).
Vasseur will have direct contact with the drivers, this way if I am right, this will solve the #1/#2 issue as well (big issue this year if you ask me).
And yes , I believe Vasseur will have authority to make change to the pit wall.

[tpe]

Isn't the job of the Sporting director to run the pitwall/race operations?

Otherwise, why do you need him?

[Tony]

The simple solution would have been to have brought Todt in to help mentor Binotto. This year would have gone very differently if Todt had been there the way that Binotto wanted.

By the way, Binotto is born in Switzerland (not Italy) and educated outside of Italy. I swear some of you think everyone with an Italian last name is an idiot...

[paneristi]

The simple solution would have been to have brought Todt in to help mentor Binotto. This year would have gone very differently if Todt had been there the way that Binotto wanted.

By the way, Binotto is born in Switzerland (not Italy) and educated outside of Italy. I swear some of you think everyone with an Italian last name is an idiot...
Binotto was favored by Camilleri to replace Arrivabene who was chosen by Marchionne (gone too soon before wiping out LCdM’s Machiavellian style). I think it’s a matter of decision making (eg. Putting the right man for the job, task distribution, etc) rather than nationality to do the job. That’s why a TP is given such power to exercise & fight to achieve results.

[Brembo]

By the way, Binotto is born in Switzerland (not Italy) and educated outside of Italy. I swear some of you think everyone with an Italian last name is an idiot...

Mick was also born and raised and educated in Switzerland not Germany . But he is said to be German because as we all know his heritage. Both Rubens and Felipe are from Italian heritage but were born in Brasil. The opposite of Mick!

[JPZ]

Mick was also born and raised and educated in Switzerland not Germany . But he is said to be German because as we all know his heritage. Both Rubens and Felipe are from Italian heritage but were born in Brasil. The opposite of Mick!

He has dual nationality, as many drivers have, but they have to choose one to race under.

[Brembo]

He has dual nationality, as many drivers have, but they have to choose one to race under.

That answers my question! Thanks.

[Brembo]

The simple solution would have been to have brought Todt in to help mentor Binotto. This year would have gone very differently if Todt had been there the way that Binotto wanted.

By the way, Binotto is born in Switzerland (not Italy) and educated outside of Italy. I swear some of you think everyone with an Italian last name is an idiot...

Enzo Ferrari! It don't get more Italian than that.

[racingbradley]

Sources say that an interim manager will be put in place namely Benedetto Vigna for the first few months. Are they waiting on Fred to learn Italian????;-)

[wisepie]

Sources say that an interim manager will be put in place namely Benedetto Vigna for the first few months. Are they waiting on Fred to learn Italian????;-)

I'm not convinced that Binotto's departure will help the team at this critical time, much better to have kept him in his technical role and appointed a TP who has the experience and guts to stand up to the FIA/Liberty, Mattia may be unpopular with many tifosi but he did a great job with the F1-75.:-??

[FerrariF60]

I'm not convinced that Binotto's departure will help the team at this critical time, much better to have kept him in his technical role and appointed a TP who has the experience and guts to stand up to the FIA/Liberty, Mattia may be unpopular with many tifosi but he did a great job with the F1-75.:-??

It’s sad that after 30 years with Ferrari they want to sack him
Maybe he’ll just be transferred back to the factory as he’s a great engineer
I would promote him to technical director of chassis department

Again it’d be sad to seem him go and end up at Merc, like all the good talent Ferrari let go in the past

[Toothlessrage*]

It’s sad that after 30 years with Ferrari they want to sack him
Maybe he’ll just be transferred back to the factory as he’s a great engineer
I would promote him to technical director of chassis department

Again it’d be sad to seem him go and end up at Merc, like all the good talent Ferrari let go in the past

I felt sad too, to hear that he's about to/got sacked.
He did deliver on a strong base, the F1-75, but probably had plans to refine the package into 2023.
My opinion is that he needed a shield to protect him from the pressures of the higher management and an enforcer as well.

But, if the rumors are true about his sacking.
Then, I dont see Ferrari getting out of this rut anytime soon.

[jgonzalesm6]

Vasseur will make Leclerc the de facto #1 role at Ferrari.

That's a plus.

[Nero Horse]

- Vasseur as Team Principal
- Aldo Costa as Technical Director
- Ross Brawn as Advisor
- Rueda kicked out

That would be the best solution.

[racingbradley]

- Vasseur as Team Principal
- Aldo Costa as Technical Director
- Ross Brawn as Advisor
- Rueda kicked out

That would be the best solution.
Don't forget Rory Byrne :-)

[racingbradley]

Rumour mill Fred has turned down the job.

[wisepie]

Rumour mill Fred has turned down the job.

I've just seen this mentioned too, I find it hard to believe that nobody seems to want the poisoned chalice that a TP of Ferrari can be. Has the entry into the WEC Hypercar class drained Ferrari talent completely?:roll

[Toothlessrage*]

Rumour mill Fred has turned down the job.

Has it been verified by any reliable source?

[jgonzalesm6]

I'm reading Paul Hembrey(Pirelli) and Coletta from the 499P program are throwing in their names in the hat.

[racingbradley]

I'm reading Paul Hembrey(Pirelli) and Coletta from the 499P program are throwing in their names in the hat.

interesting

[racingbradley]

Rumour mill gathers that it is Vasseur. I just hope he is strong enough to get the job done,:pray

[tpe]

Everyone concentrate to the TP.
And no word for the other crucial job, that of the TD...

[racingbradley]

Vasseur has bought house in Italy and was seen coming out of Marenello.

[tpe]

How about the TD?

I insist on this

[racingbradley]

There is a senior engineer coming from Mercedes. Whether he can step up to TD I don't know but Binotto must have had an understudy. who can take over..

[Gilles]

Welcome Frédéric, let’s build the future in the spirit of the Scuderia's history, Charles has so much to give to the fans

[wisepie]

There is a senior engineer coming from Mercedes. Whether he can step up to TD I don't know but Binotto must have had an understudy. who can take over..

I thought Laurent Mekies was supposed to be Binotto's trackside assistant, someone correct me if I'm wrong! Is he staying in his position, do we know?

[racingbradley]

I thought Laurent Mekies was supposed to be Binotto's trackside assistant, someone correct me if I'm wrong! Is he staying in his position, do we know?
OMG we are in more trouble. Let's hope they re-jigger some key positions like Mekies' and Rueda's. It could be a can of worms.:-?? ;-)

[JPZ]

I thought Laurent Mekies was supposed to be Binotto's trackside assistant, someone correct me if I'm wrong! Is he staying in his position, do we know?

Mekies was Assistant Team Principal and Racing Director.

Still no new information.

[wisepie]

Mekies was Assistant Team Principal and Racing Director.

Still no new information.

Thanks, I thought that was his role, don't know if he's staying but it looks like the French may be taking over where Binotto left off. All being kept quiet, apart from the rumours!

[racingbradley]

It seems to me that mistakes could be more Makies and Rudea's fault not Binotto's. He took responsibility but that doesn't change the cause

[tpe]

I remember when in 2020 we were hoping that Binotto would stay at the factory so Marie's would run the team...

[wisepie]

It seems to me that mistakes could be more Makies and Rudea's fault not Binotto's. He took responsibility but that doesn't change the cause

We may never know for sure, Mattia Binotto was obviously very reserved and didn't openly criticise anyone in the team, which some people regard as a failure to perform his duty!

[racingbradley]

Again it’d be sad to seem him go and end up at Merc, like all the good talent Ferrari let go in the past

+1

[Tony]

Rumor has it that Vasseur was hired back in June...

[Rishu]

Rumor has it that Vasseur was hired back in June...

That means had given up Binotto around May? that early?

[Toothlessrage*]

F1 | Alfa Romeo: official, Vasseur leaves in January for Ferrari

The Hinwil team greeted the CEO and team principal of Sauber Motorsport with a statement. A cycle that lasted six years in which the Swiss team grew to sixth place in the Constructors' championship in 2022 comes to an end. The first step has been taken: now we have to wait for the announcement from Ferrari which will appoint him team principal from the new year.

Link: https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-alfa-romeo-ufficiale-vasseur-lascia-a-gennaio-per-ferrari/10410777/

[Decoded]

Welcome to our new TP
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-vasseur-to-replace-binotto-as-ferrari-team-principal.PELK9IIldsKSUSUwnJE66.html

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-announces-vasseur-as-new-formula-1-boss/10410795/

[tifosi1993]

:thumb

Hopefully Fred will do what Binotto refused to do, clean Ferrari off incompetence and send Rueda and Marcos packing.

[stefa]

It is official

https://twitter.com/ScuderiaFerrari/status/1602581666744221696?t=zJtttSwuPPcODIJRwUIvqQ&s=19

All the luck, and I hope it'll work!

[Greig]

Good luck to him, first job replace the stragists but not with the ones from Alfa.

:ferrarifl

[Toothlessrage*]

Good luck to him, first job replace the stragists but not with the ones from Alfa.

:ferrarifl

I hope he's ruthless with team management and politics.

[stasera]

i hope he is able to asignate the number one and number two drivers

[paneristi]

Vasseur has bought house in Italy and was seen coming out of Marenello.

I’ll be watching this. If nothing’s changed we may get a good deal in a few years

[jgonzalesm6]

So, Fred Vasseur will join Scuderia Ferrari on 9 January as Team Principal and General Manager.

So, no one has been announced officially at the Scuderia in the Technical Director role.

[WS6TransAm01]

Well, it's official. Let's hope he can straighten out the strategy department at least.

[racingbradley]

Good luck Frederic :-D
Now The TD is the first to look at.

[wisepie]

Funny that we now have a French TP and Mclaren have an Italian TP in Andrea Stella, who said the Italians were not the way to run a ship?! Maybe Fred will inject some fire into the position and make sure that Ferrari don't get downtrodden by the FIA/Liberty, as for the technical side, I think there has been reference to Simone Resta (ex-Alfa and Haas) and Laurent Mekies looks to be staying and a new strategist, Ravin Jain.

[Tifoso]

Can’t be worse than current situation.
I hope.

[nani_s23]

So, Fred Vasseur will join Scuderia Ferrari on 9 January as Team Principal and General Manager.

So, no one has been announced officially at the Scuderia in the Technical Director role.

One way this is good, it seems like Ferrari responding to Leclerc statements.

He’s the future, giving him all the necessary back up & let’s see if he’s gonna deliver it or not.

[JacKy]

I am pretty sure that Sainz Jr. is already walking cloud of negativity. Because of the Leclerc and Vasseur relationship.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again If 2023 car is fast and races for the championship, Sainz will be a big problem. He is not a team player , He think he is god like driver but he is not.

[tpe]

Funny that we now have a French TP and Mclaren have an Italian TP in Andrea Stella, who said the Italians were not the way to run a ship?! Maybe Fred will inject some fire into the position and make sure that Ferrari don't get downtrodden by the FIA/Liberty, as for the technical side, I think there has been reference to Simone Resta (ex-Alfa and Haas) and Laurent Mekies looks to be staying and a new strategist, Ravin Jain.

Source?

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=JacKy;1074155]I am pretty sure that Sainz Jr. is already walking cloud of negativity. Because of the Leclerc and Vasseur relationship.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again If 2023 car is fast and races for the championship, Sainz will be a big problem. He is not a team player , He think he is god like driver but he is not.[/Q

Who is not the team player? Leclerc and Vasseur relationship; or Carlos on his own against Vasseur and his team mate as well as all the other drivers? No team orders makes for two team players! I hope Carlos gets tostart the races with at least 4 tires!!: rotfl . Rubenization already and 2023 hasn't started!! :rotfl

[Rishu]

I am pretty sure that Sainz Jr. is already walking cloud of negativity. Because of the Leclerc and Vasseur relationship.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again If 2023 car is fast and races for the championship, Sainz will be a big problem. He is not a team player , He think he is god like driver but he is not.

To be fair if a racing driver doesn't believe he is the best, then he is not a racing driver, only a butler

[Brembo]

To be fair if a racing driver doesn't believe he is the best, then he is not a racing driver, only a butler

You are 100% correct !

[wisepie]

Source?

I read it yesterday on scuderiafans website, nothing concrete and always subject to an official Ferrari clarification as far as I know.

[Brembo]

i hope he is able to asignate the number one and number two drivers

During the race ; not before. Go Santander!!! Freddy boy needs to think WCC for Ferrari !!

[google]

To be fair if a racing driver doesn't believe he is the best, then he is not a racing driver, only a butler

But if your "belief" isn't covered by talent its becomes a sticky situation... just ask Bottas

[Brembo]

But if your "belief" isn't covered by talent its becomes a sticky situation... just ask Bottas

$$$$ also becomes and is a sticky situation. F-1 IMO now has going into 2023 6 , 7 including Alonso; qualified for 1st place drivers. Moving over is not for sure a drivers choice! Rubens always got paid!!!! :rotfl Will Fred ever tell Charles to let Carlos pass ?

[Brembo]

But if your "belief" isn't covered by talent its becomes a sticky situation... just ask Bottas

$$$$ also becomes and is a sticky situation. F-1 IMO now has going into 2023 6 , 7 including Alonso; qualified for 1st place drivers. Moving over is not for sure a drivers choice! Rubens always got paid!!!! :rotfl Will Fred ever tell Charles to let Carlos pass ?

[aroutis]

$$$$ also becomes and is a sticky situation. F-1 IMO now has going into 2023 6 , 7 including Alonso; qualified for 1st place drivers. Moving over is not for sure a drivers choice! Rubens always got paid!!!! :rotfl Will Fred ever tell Charles to let Carlos pass ?

So , Reubens decided to get paid to move over when asked to. Choice.
Good, now we 're in agreement.

As for your Q, would you tell your faster driver to move over for your slower? Only if there was a technical issue.

[Brembo]

So , Reubens decided to get paid to move over when asked to. Choice.
Good, now we 're in agreement.

As for your Q, would you tell your faster driver to move over for your slower? Only if there was a technical issue.

Just be sure of who is the faster driver each race. Starting a season and telling one of your drivers you will have to move over no matter how your doing is not how I see a successful two drivers working together for WCC. Without Rubens @ Merc moving over , Michael couldn't win not even one race in 3 seasons. Was he Rubenized?? :rotfl Meanwhile I hope Santatnder will be on top of Freddy as far as not Rubenizing Carlos every race!

[aroutis]

Just be sure of who is the faster driver each race. Starting a season and telling one of your drivers you will have to move over no matter how your doing is not how I see a successful two drivers working together for WCC. Without Rubens @ Merc moving over , Michael couldn't win not even one race in 3 seasons. Was he Rubenized?? :rotfl Meanwhile I hope Santatnder will be on top of Freddy as far as not Rubenizing Carlos every race!

If you watched last year you know that Charles was faster than Carlos, race in race out. It's not open for a debate. Carlos now has a very easy task. Be our new Reubens. He can watch the tapes from the Schumi era and get prepared for more info ;)
As for Santander , don't worry, remember that 55 mn deficit from two sponsors leaving and how the UK media making a party ? Oh, how easily Ferrari closed the gap within days. If / when they leave , someone else will come begging.
If you hope for a sponsor to control Ferrari, you do not belong with this forum, you're not a Ferrari fan.

But then, we know this.

[Brembo]

A sponsor to control Ferrari no! Just even out the driver chances of who moves over and when. $$$ for sure counts. We Ferrari fans need Charles to beat Max not just Carlos ! Go Santander !!! Carlos needs all the help he can get !

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=Brembo;1074365]A sponsor to control Ferrari no! Just even out the driver chances of who moves over and when. $$$ for sure counts. We Ferrari fans need Charles to beat Max not just Carlos ! Go Santander !!! Carlos needs all the help he can get and so does Charles. He needs to beat Max not Carlos for WDC! As the saying goes, 2nd place is the losers 1st place. If you watched 2021 Carlos was faster than Charles.

[brucewayne]

[QUOTE=Brembo;1074365]A sponsor to control Ferrari no! Just even out the driver chances of who moves over and when. $$$ for sure counts. We Ferrari fans need Charles to beat Max not just Carlos ! Go Santander !!! Carlos needs all the help he can get and so does Charles. He needs to beat Max not Carlos for WDC! As the saying goes, 2nd place is the losers 1st place. If you watched 2021 Carlos was faster than Charles.

You should rewatch 2021 races.

[aroutis]

A sponsor to control Ferrari no! Just even out the driver chances of who moves over and when. $$$ for sure counts. We Ferrari fans need Charles to beat Max not just Carlos ! Go Santander !!! Carlos needs all the help he can get !

It's Ferrari's business how they run their drivers. No sponsor should have control over ANYTHING Ferrari.
Wake up

[aroutis]

[QUOTE=Brembo;1074366]

You should rewatch 2021 races.

It's ok, we like Brembo cause in his madness we 're entertained lol

[Brembo]

It's Ferrari's business how they run their drivers. No sponsor should have control over ANYTHING Ferrari.
Wake up

Very well said ! But that will never happen unfortunately. BTW Ferrari, R Bull, Mercedes are team sponsors that run the teams.

[aroutis]

Very well said ! But that will never happen unfortunately
Says you? I don't think so.


BTW Ferrari, R Bull, Mercedes are team sponsors that run the teams.
What you say here is stupid to no end. I won't even bother to answer. Stop drinking and answering posts.

[Brembo]

[QUOTE=aroutis;1074380]

From me to you:

What you say here is stupid to no end. I won't even bother to answer. Stop answering posts.

[aroutis]

[QUOTE=aroutis;1074380]

From me to you:

What you say here is stupid to no end. I won't even bother to answer. Stop answering posts.
Contrary to you, I am not the one answering posts intoxicated nor the one looking like a bafoon 99% of the times posting.
I am not the joke of the forum.

You have a choice. Keep acting like this and be a joke or get serious.

[Gilles]

Dear Brembo, your said loved team has a communication for you : Leclerc 36M$, Sainz 10M$, all is said here
Any new idea to troll this forum in 2023?

[ntukza]

I'm happy that Binotto is no longer TP. He was not good in that position. I think FV is a better TP. I would have much preferred Binotto to be demoted rather than fired altogether. He's a great talent in the lower ranks.

[Gilles]

I'm happy that Binotto is no longer TP. He was not good in that position. I think FV is a better TP. I would have much preferred Binotto to be demoted rather than fired altogether. He's a great talent in the lower ranks.

Ok, but he should have been demoted, what he didn't want Also, I think some people in and out of the team were tired of him (like Resta)
I think he had lost the trust of many people, too many lies, inconsistencies and pathetic authoritarian movements
The real problem is that he kept this task after Sergio’s death, it wasn’t the initial scenario I think
Vasseur was Sergio's target

[Brembo]

Dear Brembo, your said loved team has a communication for you : Leclerc 36M$, Sainz 10M$, all is said here
Any new idea to troll this forum in 2023?

You seem to troll well without any ideas from me. Borderline poverty $10 million!! :rotfl The races can't start soooon enough ! It's good to see you follow my posts so well.

[Tony]

Guys, MS/RB is not the topic of this thread, let's not go back into this topic or posts will be deleted.