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Greig
20th November 2022, 15:05
well done leclerc. he fought against ferrari and checo perez. and he won

if you want to make leclerc one pit then why you take sainz from perez's way? can anyone tell me that? we saw that how perez lost times against hamilton. sainz could have been done this against checo. but our high IQ team took sainz into pit and they cleaned perez's way. wow incredible

You realise Ferrari were wanting to secure P2 in the WCC? and all their focus was not on Charles unlike yours?

Why was P2 for Charles more important for you than P2 in the WCC for Ferrari or P4 for Carlos?????

tifosi1993
20th November 2022, 15:06
Not what Charles thought but ah well. Ham was not driving a Red Bull....

But Ham still had the leg over Sainz, it's the faster 2 stopper strategy that enabled Sainz to get Ham.

Charles on the other hand was faster than Perez, so 2 stopper would've worked easily.

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:08
But Ham still had the leg over Sainz, it's the faster 2 stopper strategy that enabled Sainz to get Ham.

Charles on the other hand was faster than Perez, so 2 stopper would've worked easily.

1 stop worked just as easily, I know it's upsetting for you that you don't get to attack the team though. Sorry bout that.

stasera
20th November 2022, 15:10
You realise Ferrari were wanting to secure P2 in the WCC? and all their focus was not on Charles unlike yours?

Why was P2 for Charles more important for you than P2 in the WCC for Ferrari or P4 for Carlos?????


if we would have pitted with perez or after one lap perez, we would secure p2 and we would be able to fight for p1 against verstappen.

you know this?

tifosi1993
20th November 2022, 15:11
1 stop worked just as easily, I know it's upsetting for you that you don't get to attack the team though. Sorry bout that.

Nah you're not that smart, you don't know that much tbh.

And your world there's nothing wrong with Ferrari's pit-wall. But in real world, Binotto had to defend them quite forcefully. But yeah, keep on living in that La La La land of yours.

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:11
if we would have pitted with perez or after one lap perez, we would secure p2 and we would be able to fight for p1 against verstappen.

you know this?

No I don't think we had anyway to fight for P1. Your strategy would just see us stay being Perez....

stasera
20th November 2022, 15:11
1 stop worked just as easily, I know it's upsetting for you that you don't get to attack the team though. Sorry bout that.

1 stop doesn't work actually, Leclerc won against ferrari pit wall and against perez, its because perez was so slow as hell, secondly he lost a lot of times against weak teams who actually had to give their positon to perez.

stasera
20th November 2022, 15:12
No I don't think we had anyway to fight for P1. Your strategy would just see us stay being Perez....

how? the gap between charles and perez was 0.9

we could have been 1-3 or 2-3 today. its interesting that still there are bunch of people who like our strategy

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:12
Nah you're not that smart, you don't know that much tbh.

And your world there's nothing wrong with Ferrari's pit-wall. But in real world, Binotto had to defend them quite forcefully. But yeah, keep on living in that La La La land of yours.

Where have I said there is nothing wrong with our pitwall? today was not one of those days, as I said I know your upset about the strategy working.

tifosi1993
20th November 2022, 15:13
if we would have pitted with perez or after one lap perez, we would secure p2 and we would be able to fight for p1 against verstappen.

you know this?

Exactly. The gap between Perez and Max was less than a second after the first stop, same as Sainz and Charles.

Going for the undercut would've enabled Charles to dust off Perez and go after Max.

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:13
how? the gap charles and perez was 0.9

we could have been 1-3 or 2-3 today. its interesting that still there are bunch of people who like our strategy

Nope, pitting same lap as Perez or one lap later would see Charles still be behind Perez.

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:15
Exactly. The gap between Perez and Max was less than a second after the first stop, same as Sainz and Charles.

Going for the undercut would've enabled Charles to dust off Perez and go after Max.

:rotflMax was Sunday driving from his 1st stop we were not on his pace.

tifosi1993
20th November 2022, 15:15
Where have I said there is nothing wrong with our pitwall? today was not one of those days, as I said I know your upset about the strategy working.

And as I've said, Charles made this strategy work all by himself. He was faster than Perez before the first stop, had Ferrari gone for the undercut, Perez wouldn't have mattered.

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:16
And as I've said, Charles made this strategy work all by himself. He was faster than Perez before the first stop, had Ferrari gone for the undercut, Perez wouldn't have mattered.

Well Charles was asked if he could manage that pace to the end and he said yes, you are just angry it worked it's ok.

tifosi1993
20th November 2022, 15:17
:rotflMax was Sunday driving from his 1st stop we were not on his pace.

:lol

Never said Charles would've beaten Max. But 2 stopper would've enabled him to go after Max.

stasera
20th November 2022, 15:18
Nope, pitting same lap as Perez or one lap later would see Charles still be behind Perez.

but with the hard tyres we have better pace than RB

they are better with the mediums.

Greig
20th November 2022, 15:18
:lol

Never said Charles would've beaten Max. But 2 stopper would've enabled him to go after Max.

They would have just went to 2 with Max and win anyway. Your desperate now to blame the team for something.....

brucewayne
20th November 2022, 15:19
You realise Ferrari were wanting to secure P2 in the WCC? and all their focus was not on Charles unlike yours?

Why was P2 for Charles more important for you than P2 in the WCC for Ferrari or P4 for Carlos?????

Because Charles is the more important driver. He showed us today. Great tire management, great race pace. Great call at the end from the team, they made the strategy work with Charles. Godd way to end the year, now focus on getting back stronger.

racingbradley
20th November 2022, 16:04
Congratulations to the team and Charles.
It was the best we could get this year. :-D
If Fred is joining us as TP he has a job in hand to fight for the championships. it's what we expect.

stasera
20th November 2022, 16:07
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one stop strategy was an awful decision, we should admit it. it doesn't work except for Leclerc. we can see here that perez's strategy was the fastest strategy. and Leclerc's strategy was not even the second fastest strategy.

Vettel started p9 and finished barely p10 (with one-pit)
stroll started p14 and finished 8 with two-pit strategy

Hamilton also disliked one-stop strategy

we could have been p1 with Leclerc, but we have risked p2. this is a fact. there is one-pit strategy that worked today was that one of leclerc. But the problem is that this strategy worked because of its external dimensions, it's all about Perez wasn't fast as he needs to be.

it would have been like japan GP, maybe Monaco? I can't count how many races we screwed up. at first, I blamed the Spanish lobby and sponsors, because the team always screwed Charles up. but after a few times, they screwed up Sainz as well. I don't trust and believe these clowns for next year. look at these merc guys. they were so funny and so slow. how they improved and closed the gap between RB and Ferrari. What if they produce a good car for the next season? and what if we screw up as we did this year. IDK, we need massive changes.

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 16:11
They only reason Perez couldn’t make his strategy work is because he’s a second string driver.

The only reason Charles’ strategy worked is because Charles is a phenomenal driver. The strategy was wrong. Charles’ abilities once again save face for the morons on the pit wall.

stasera
20th November 2022, 16:12
They only reason Perez couldn’t make his strategy work is because he’s a second string driver.

The only reason Charles’ strategy worked is because Charles is a phenomenal driver. The strategy was wrong. Charles’ abilities once again save face for the morons on the pit wall.

%100 agree.

one-stop strategy didnt work today- except for that of Leclerc

Greig
20th November 2022, 16:19
%100 agree.

one-stop strategy didnt work today- except for that of Leclerc

And the race winner?

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:22
Firstly, I think that Charles just put in one of the best tyre management performances we have seen in this F1 era. His name should go alongside that of Hamilton/Perez or whoever else is Sky F1's current "Tyre management kind du jure" is. In a car that is known to eat it's tyres non the less. Sky F1 should hail Charles as the "Tyre Management King", but they won't.

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 16:22
And the race winner?

It worked for him because the RBR is THAT much better than the rest.

Come on dude, just stop.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:24
also, we tend to put too much emphasis on strategy. I think either strategy would have gotten Charles second today. But what the one stopper gives you, that many fail to recognize, is the position for the safety car which almost happened.

also that llittle shunt between Mick and Latiffi happened right in front of Leclerc and cost Leclerc about 2-3 seconds. So it looked a lot closer than it really should have been

stasera
20th November 2022, 16:28
And the race winner?


lol because second one i mean leclerc had one-pit strategy, may be thats why max's one stop worked well? because p2 guy didnt stop second time? thats what im saying here. if we have pitted leclerc we could have fought for p1 with verstappen. because we could have forced max to pit again. we are fast on the hards as hell. but with the medium or the softs, they (rb) are not our rival. they beat us so bad.


you are being funny dude, like binotto. RB is unrivaled, there is no rival for them. their cars are the fastest on the grid. they dont even need to change tyre. they can race with softs more than 30 laps. having pit is obligatory, thats why they are pitting.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:31
lol because second one i mean leclerc had one-pit strategy, may be thats why max's one stop worked well? because p2 guy didnt stop second time? thats what im saying here. if we have pitted leclerc we could have fought for p1 with verstappen. because we could have forced max to pit again. we are fast on the hards as hell. but with the medium or the softs, they (rb) are not our rival. they beat us so bad.


you are being clown dude, like binotto. RB is unrivaled, there is no rival for them. their cars are the fastest on the grid. they dont even need to change tyre. they can race with soft more than 30 laps. having pit is obligatory, thats why they are pitting.

you just said we are better on hards, so your master plan is to pit to softs or mediums, so then Max covers you off, and now we are fighting against him on our weaker tyre? and what if a safety car happens? 1-2 red bull.

stasera
20th November 2022, 16:32
you just said we are better on hards, so your master plan is to pit to softs or mediums, so then Max covers you off, and now we are fighting against him on our weaker tyre? and what if a safety car happens? 1-2 red bull.


my strategy would be medium-hard-hard (early pit of course, to get rid of mediums as much as possible)

Greig
20th November 2022, 16:32
you just said we are better on hards, so your master plan is to pit to softs or mediums, so then Max covers you off, and now we are fighting against him on our weaker tyre? and what if a safety car happens? 1-2 red bull.

Ferrari done the best they could do today, splitting the Red Bulls, the win was never on for us. But it won't stop the hatred on here.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:37
Ferrari done the best they could do today, splitting the Red Bulls, the win was never on for us. But it won't stop the hatred on here.

Ferrari was strong here, don't get me wrong. Quicker than Merc which many here think we wouldn't be. And Sky was so disappointed when they realized this, and tried their best to cover up for Merc and Hamilton.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:39
and this race should show us, that if Red Bull continues to just update the car specifically for their DRS king, they WILL lose the constructors championship next season.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:40
Ferrari was strong here, don't get me wrong. Quicker than Merc which many here think we wouldn't be. And Sky was so disappointed when they realized this, and tried their best to cover up for Merc and Hamilton.

you could also hear the disappointment and surprise is Brundel and Croft's voice when they realized Leclerc was faster than Chico!

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:41
yeah, we were close to the DRS king today, you give Charles 15-30bhp more that we know that engine has, and he's there, he's probably walking away with this race.

Cheeseman
20th November 2022, 16:47
If Charles did stop a second time and was taking chunks of time out of Max, Red Bull would have pitted him again and he would have run off into the distance. The win was never on today. Max was tyre managing and they had all scenarios covered

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 16:49
If Charles did stop a second time and was taking chunks of time out of Max, Red Bull would have pitted him again and he would have run off into the distance. The win was never on today. Max was tyre managing and they had all scenarios covered

exactly, but Ferrari had better race pace than we've seen, probably within .25-.5 of the DRS baby. It would have been nice to have this pace at a track where RB was off, like Brazil, and steal a win, but oh well

stasera
20th November 2022, 17:13
exactly, but Ferrari had better race pace than we've seen, probably within .25-.5 of the DRS baby. It would have been nice to have this pace at a track where RB was off, like Brazil, and steal a win, but oh well

its because the hards, while mediums were fresh we could not keep up the same pace not only against the RB but also against the Mercedes'. Just remember what george said on the radio. "tell lewis to push more, Ferraris look so slow" so lewis easily passed us and he cut a corner then he chased leclerc, he was about to take over leclerc but then he was told to give the position to sainz. then he fell apart from the convoy maybe he got damaged in the ground of the car.

after the first stops, we have gained pace and we came up to RB in terms of race pace, finally.

RB could have been faster with a strategy like soft-medium-medium or maybe medium-hard-medium. they used hards predominantly which brings them to come closer to us in terms of race pace.

BUT: i didnt believe that RB wanted to make Checo 2nd in the championship. perhaps they wanted to neglect some comments like, this championship has been won its because the car, not the driver. every driver and brand wants to win against its main rival. perhaps RB wanted Leclerc to be 2nd more than ferrari.

they were also said that, max will give tow for perez. But as Pérez came out of the pit, he asked about max on the radio. but the team said that "max's car has a problem, thats why he will leave after a while." they didnt give tow for perez as well.

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 17:36
It’s sad to see Seb retire.

What’s most sad is that he never got a chance to win a ship with Ferrari.

I will feel the same regret when Fernando hangs up the overalls in 2058. lol

JPZ
20th November 2022, 17:38
I think 2nd place was the best result possible today.

Leclerc drove a phenomenal race and gave it his all to take 2nd place in the WDC.

Ferrari held on to 2nd in the WCC and this ends the season on a positive note.

wisepie
20th November 2022, 17:39
Never thought I would be ecstatic about a 2/4 finish and 2nd in both championships but today feels like a victory. Charles drove a great race to secure P2 in the WDC, fully deserved after all those laps on the hards, both he and Carlos had decent speed and brought the cars home to take P2 in the CWC after almost everyone (including me) thought Mercedes would steal it. The strategy was fine, as it worked this time, but a bit of a gamble, Charles managed his tyres well and the deg on the hards seemed acceptable. Not the result I had expected but more than happy to congratulate our drivers and team today.:thumb

stasera
20th November 2022, 17:45
I will try to explain how that strategy was that much bad.

Perez was already expected to overtake Leclerc, according to calculations from both Redbull and Ferrari. (remember what was said to leclerc on the radio from the pit wall, "we will be taken over," when leclerc asked them another stop is probably so late)

Lap 34(24), 19.9 seconds from Leclerc when Perez comes out of the pits. Perez needs to close an average of 0.830 (per lap) seconds to beat Leclerc.

lap 45(13), 10 seconds difference between perez and leclerc. Perez reduced the gap by 1 second per lap. Much more successful than the average given to him.


lap 46(12) the gap increased to 10.3. because when Perez passed Lewis on the 1st drs straight instead of the 2nd drs zone, Lewis got into a fight with him.

lap 47(11) Perez overtook Lewis. the difference is the same as the difference in lap 45. 10 seconds again.

Perez lost 2 seconds here, and also wore out his tires. After this point, he should have closed a gap of 0.9 seconds per lap. Here, too, he lost time with 2 cars that had to lap under blue flags. So in total he lost 3.5 seconds. 2 seconds is his own fault, 1.5 seconds is due to the vehicles he will ride. Moreover, on top of all this, Leclerc gave a great performance. According to calculations, Perez would catch Leclerc 3 laps before the finish and even would be ahead by 2-3 seconds.

That's a gamble when you have the tyre advantage. I also say that the tire advantage should be maintained, just like in Austria. I'm open to gambles when you need it but here we didnt need it, while we have same hard tyres life with RB, we are always better far away. why you are giving tire advantage to them when we and they are on hards.

You guys asked me what if SC comes. and they put softs?
no need SC for RB to put softs, they could have been used soft-medium-medium strategy or medium-hard-medium strategy at least for perez. they still would have overtaken us. but the sc would be for their advantage in every situation. because everyone would have gone for softs including us.

Greig
20th November 2022, 18:02
It’s sad to see Seb retire.

What’s most sad is that he never got a chance to win a ship with Ferrari.

I will feel the same regret when Fernando hangs up the overalls in 2058. lol

He had every chance to win it in 2018 but decided to throw it away, Alonso also had a very good chance but Grosjean put a stop to that.

You don't do well with things that happened longer than 5 mins ago....

Greig
20th November 2022, 18:06
Charles Leclerc #16
It was a good race. We executed it perfectly and, as we didn’t have the pure pace to beat our competitors, put pressure on them in the key moments, which paid off. It was a season full of ups and downs, but considering where we came from, we made a good step and can be satisfied with our progress. I want to thank the whole team, both back home at the factory at and at the track, for all their hard work and dedication. P2 in the Constructors’ means a lot and we don’t want to stop here. We have to keep our heads down and push as hard as we can this winter, with the target of winning the title next year.

Carlos Sainz #55
It was a solid race today. The start wasn’t clean but I managed to pull a nice overtake on the Mercedes at turn 6. Unfortunately, I lost time and tyre life behind Lewis and from then onwards we committed to the two stop strategy. Overall, it was a strong performance, with good teamwork to finish P2 with Charles in the drivers’ championship and P2 in the constructors’ championship, which was our target this weekend. It hasn’t been an easy season, especially the first half, but I’ve managed to recover the pace, and my feeling with the car has been much better in the second half. Even though we’ve only just finished the season, we are fully focused and motivated to push this winter and I am already looking forward to next year. Thank you to every single member of the team for your tremendous effort and determination and to every tifosi out there for your incredible support! Bring on 2023! Forza Ferrari!

Mattia Binotto, Team Principal & Managing Director
Second place in the Constructors’ and Drivers’ championships is down to all the hard work over the course of the season. This has been an important year, in which we had set ourselves the goal of getting back to being competitive and, in that, we have succeeded. However, we know, if we want to win the titles, there is still a lot of work to do. I congratulate the entire team, drivers, engineers, mechanics, here in Abu Dhabi and all those back home in Maranello, because they were able to stay focussed on our goals for this weekend. The season had its difficult moments, but overall it has been signifcant. We can put 2022 behind us knowing that we made a lot of progress and, as from Tuesday, we will start preparing for the new challenge that awaits us in 2023. I want to thank our fans for their unwavering support this season. Thank you also to Sebastian for everything he has given to Formula 1 and to Ferrari.

--

Clearly he ain't a member here then....

nani_s23
20th November 2022, 18:41
Given the pace of Leclerc in the race, any strategy he would have come out on top of Perez.

Fact is Max doesn’t have Set of Mediums. Where as Leclerc had 1 New set of Hard & 1 new set of Mediums.

Any SC incident would have benefitted Leclerc over Max.

stasera
20th November 2022, 18:54
Given the pace of Leclerc in the race, any strategy he would have come out on top of Perez.

Fact is Max doesn’t have Set of Mediums. Where as Leclerc had 1 New set of Hard & 1 new set of Mediums.

Any SC incident would have benefitted Leclerc over Max.

they would have put on softs for Verstappen, so they could easily defeat us. the fact is, our car would eat mediums faster than their car eats softs. they can run with softs more than 30 laps!

SC would have benefitted Max more than leclerc, plus, perez could have passed leclerc with fresh softs


https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fom-website/manual/Misc/2022manual/2022Races/AbuDhabiGP/Saturday/StrategyGuide/Tyres%20Available%20for%20Race%20ABU%20DHABI.jpg.t ransform/9col/image.jpg

FerrariF60
20th November 2022, 19:17
He had every chance to win it in 2018 but decided to throw it away, Alonso also had a very good chance but Grosjean put a stop to that.

You don't do well with things that happened longer than 5 mins ago....

indeed spa 2012....that's when Alo lost the WDC

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 19:35
its because the hards, while mediums were fresh we could not keep up the same pace not only against the RB but also against the Mercedes'. Just remember what george said on the radio. "tell lewis to push more, Ferraris look so slow" so lewis easily passed us and he cut a corner then he chased leclerc, he was about to take over leclerc but then he was told to give the position to sainz. then he fell apart from the convoy maybe he got damaged in the ground of the car.

after the first stops, we have gained pace and we came up to RB in terms of race pace, finally.

RB could have been faster with a strategy like soft-medium-medium or maybe medium-hard-medium. they used hards predominantly which brings them to come closer to us in terms of race pace.

BUT: i didnt believe that RB wanted to make Checo 2nd in the championship. perhaps they wanted to neglect some comments like, this championship has been won its because the car, not the driver. every driver and brand wants to win against its main rival. perhaps RB wanted Leclerc to be 2nd more than ferrari.

they were also said that, max will give tow for perez. But as Pérez came out of the pit, he asked about max on the radio. but the team said that "max's car has a problem, thats why he will leave after a while." they didnt give tow for perez as well.

you fell for the Sky F1 disinformation

Mercedes were never in contention. They only looked that way because Lewis decided to give his illegal position back right before a DRS zone. It was ridiculous. They were no where once Sainz got out of DRS.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 19:39
i'm so sick of Lewis, he always resorts to going off track rather than conceding position which he should have done in the Sainz incident, in hopes of a penalty in his favor... or contact... which usually goes in his favor too.

stasera
20th November 2022, 19:46
you fell for the Sky F1 disinformation

Mercedes were never in contention. They only looked that way because Lewis decided to give his illegal position back right before a DRS zone. It was ridiculous. They were no where once Sainz got out of DRS.

i dislike skysports and i never watch it. i watch dazn f1 for improving my spanish. I just said what george said on the radio. right? lewis' pace was not bad against sainz. sainz ws struggling with the mediums

and they were pretty strong on the mediums. but after the first pit windows, george got 5 sec. penalty, and lewis' car damaged. and everyone else put on these hards. no one expected mercs to overtake us when everyone else on the hards. thats all

in addition: lperez got out of drs against lec as well. our gap between mercs were not so much. they screwed up and could not find an opportunity to overtake us. lewis broke his car, after putting on the hards. they were not our rivals. they were our rivals till lewis broke his car

stasera
20th November 2022, 19:47
i'm so sick of Lewis, he always resorts to going off track rather than conceding position which he should have done in the Sainz incident, in hopes of a penalty in his favor... or contact... which usually goes in his favor too.

his car damaged and he got what he deserved, broken ground and cut power. sainz passed him clearly, but he cut the corner and started chasing leclerc. it was digusting

tpe
20th November 2022, 19:56
I will try to explain how that strategy was that much bad.

Perez was already expected to overtake Leclerc, according to calculations from both Redbull and Ferrari. (remember what was said to leclerc on the radio from the pit wall, "we will be taken over," when leclerc asked them another stop is probably so late)

Lap 34(24), 19.9 seconds from Leclerc when Perez comes out of the pits. Perez needs to close an average of 0.830 (per lap) seconds to beat Leclerc.

lap 45(13), 10 seconds difference between perez and leclerc. Perez reduced the gap by 1 second per lap. Much more successful than the average given to him.


lap 46(12) the gap increased to 10.3. because when Perez passed Lewis on the 1st drs straight instead of the 2nd drs zone, Lewis got into a fight with him.

lap 47(11) Perez overtook Lewis. the difference is the same as the difference in lap 45. 10 seconds again.

Perez lost 2 seconds here, and also wore out his tires. After this point, he should have closed a gap of 0.9 seconds per lap. Here, too, he lost time with 2 cars that had to lap under blue flags. So in total he lost 3.5 seconds. 2 seconds is his own fault, 1.5 seconds is due to the vehicles he will ride. Moreover, on top of all this, Leclerc gave a great performance. According to calculations, Perez would catch Leclerc 3 laps before the finish and even would be ahead by 2-3 seconds.

That's a gamble when you have the tyre advantage. I also say that the tire advantage should be maintained, just like in Austria. I'm open to gambles when you need it but here we didnt need it, while we have same hard tyres life with RB, we are always better far away. why you are giving tire advantage to them when we and they are on hards.

You guys asked me what if SC comes. and they put softs?
no need SC for RB to put softs, they could have been used soft-medium-medium strategy or medium-hard-medium strategy at least for perez. they still would have overtaken us. but the sc would be for their advantage in every situation. because everyone would have gone for softs including us.

You forget that Leclerc had caught in the MSC-LAT incident. That cost him 2 or 3 seconds.

Cavallino
20th November 2022, 20:05
i dislike skysports and i never watch it. i watch dazn f1 for improving my spanish. I just said what george said on the radio. right? lewis' pace was not bad against sainz. sainz ws struggling with the mediums

and they were pretty strong on the mediums. but after the first pit windows, george got 5 sec. penalty, and lewis' car damaged. and everyone else put on these hards. no one expected mercs to overtake us when everyone else on the hards. thats all

in addition: lperez got out of drs against lec as well. our gap between mercs were not so much. they screwed up and could not find an opportunity to overtake us. lewis broke his car, after putting on the hards. they were not our rivals. they were our rivals till lewis broke his car

i have F1TV, i wish they had Italian audio so i could improve my italian. or a way to get more reliable Sky Italia streams

stasera
20th November 2022, 20:09
You forget that Leclerc had caught in the MSC-LAT incident. That cost him 2 or 3 seconds.

i didnt forget it, he pushed a bit and gained that amount of time again. he was kind towards his tyres, but perez flatted out and melted his tyres, of course he still had tyre advantage against leclerc. leclerc didnt eat his tyres completely, we should not consider and compare tyre life on the basis of laps. because perez's tyres were becoming into a kebab. he took 1sec per laps at first. but after battling against lewis he could not catch 1 sec not even 0.8sec.


i want to say that there are certain intervals in which tires work most efficiently, and it gives you a lot of time advantage, It is very efficient in this range. other than that, its efficiency is declining.
here is the thing, he lost that intervals battling with lewis, im sure that leclerc's tyres were not completelty dead. i think leclerc saved a bit of it for a possible battle against checo.

for ex: leclerc ate his tyres %60 in 30 laps. But checo ate its %40 in 15 laps, perez pushed it too much and consumed its efficency in a tiny amount of time. plus we are better on hards than RB. Leclerc was driver of the day for me.

stasera
20th November 2022, 20:10
i have F1TV, i wish they had Italian audio so i could improve my italian. or a way to get more reliable Sky Italia streams


i dont have it, im broke.

i prefer dazn f1. i like spaniards.

jgonzalesm6
20th November 2022, 20:50
i'm so sick of Lewis, he always resorts to going off track rather than conceding position which he should have done in the Sainz incident, in hopes of a penalty in his favor... or contact... which usually goes in his favor too.

agreed......but that's been his "mo" (motus operandi). He did it last year with Max at the same track at the same corner. No further investigation. He also did it in Mexico at the chicane in 2016 I believe.


his car damaged and he got what he deserved, broken ground and cut power. sainz passed him clearly, but he cut the corner and started chasing leclerc. it was digusting

1st it was loss of power. Then the car felt broken. Yet he was gaining ground all the while. Then he was stuck in gear due to a hydraulic failure. Good for him!!!

brucewayne
20th November 2022, 21:09
This should end the Leclerc can’t save tires narrative. Absolutely bossed Checo in a slower car and a slower strategy while finishing more than 15 seconds in front if his teammate. Number 1 driver!

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 21:15
He had every chance to win it in 2018 but decided to throw it away, Alonso also had a very good chance but Grosjean put a stop to that.

You don't do well with things that happened longer than 5 mins ago....

You simp so hard that you don’t even read. I said I was sad he didn’t win with Ferrari. Did I blame Ferrari anywhere in that statement or is you knee-jerk reaction to blame him preemptively?

Bro, you’re clown-shoes.

Greig
20th November 2022, 21:17
You simp so hard that you don’t even read. I said I was sad he didn’t win with Ferrari. Did I blame Ferrari anywhere in that statement or is you knee-jerk reaction to blame him preemptively?

Bro, you’re clown-shoes.

No you said he never got a chance, well yes he did. Try and reply without insults be a grown up. And try and remember what you wrote.


What’s most sad is that he never got a chance to win a ship with Ferrari.

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 21:25
No you said he never got a chance, well yes he did. Try and reply without insults be a grown up. And try and remember what you wrote.

Be a grown up? That’s rich coming from someone who will not allow members on this board to speak like adults with your kindergarten naughty language rules.

Hahahahhahahaha. Oh Greig, classic. Pure gold.

Greig
20th November 2022, 21:27
Be a grown up? That’s rich coming from someone who will not allow members on this board to speak like adults with your kindergarten naughty language rules.

Hahahahhahahaha. Oh Greig, classic. Pure gold.

You can speak like an adult all day long here. You could maybe even try it.

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 21:42
You can speak like an adult all day long here. You could maybe even try it.

Adults use “adult” language. You’re afraid of it for some unknown reason.

Oh wait… that explains it Ahahahahahhahahahaha

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-17/study-people-who-swear-more-are-smarter-have-larger-vocabulary

Greig
20th November 2022, 21:43
Seems like the growing up will take a bit longer :-)

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 21:47
Seems like the growing up will take a bit longer :-)

lol says the guy afraid of curse words HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Greig
20th November 2022, 21:51
lol says the guy afraid of curse words HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I am not afraid of them, you can use them if you want. Go for it :-)

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 21:55
I am not afraid of them, you can use them if you want. Go for it :-)

That’s why they appear as asterisks and why you send warnings and drop bans for attempting to circumvent the filters?

Does that big red foam nose make it hard to watch the races?

Greig
20th November 2022, 21:55
That’s why they appear as asterisks and why you send warnings and drop bans for attempting to circumvent the filters?

Does that big red foam nose make it hard to watch the races?

Coward.

WS6TransAm01
20th November 2022, 21:56
Coward.

Go to bed Greig. You’re drunk.

Greig
20th November 2022, 22:01
Go to bed Greig. You’re drunk.

Reading your posts is enough to make anyone feel drunk.

jgonzalesm6
22nd November 2022, 21:21
Anyone notice how many points Leclerc and Sainz finished in points for the end of 2022?(wink) (wink)

Leclerc 308 pts.

Sainz 246 pts.


How ironic!

aroutis
23rd November 2022, 07:37
Anyone notice how many points Leclerc and Sainz finished in points for the end of 2022?(wink) (wink)

Leclerc 308 pts.

Sainz 246 pts.


How ironic!

Anyone expected something different ? :P

jgonzalesm6
23rd November 2022, 09:41
Anyone expected something different ? :P

I wouldn't mind Leclerc having 599 points......:-D

Brembo
26th November 2022, 10:02
Anyone notice how many points Leclerc and Sainz finished in points for the end of 2022?(wink) (wink)

Leclerc 308 pts.

Sainz 246 pts.


How ironic!

Santander may well cause a difference as far as points go. As long as WCCs go way up ; I'm a happy Ferrari fan !