2023 Singapore Grand Prix - Practice & Qualifying Thread

[elnano14]

FP1 just ended

And we looked fast as hell, both on short run and long run :-E:-E:-E

[Aviamata]

Wow this is soooo unexpected man

[FerrariF60]

I must say I’m really surprised that we look that good given the pace we’ve had at the other high downforce track like Hungary...but I’m not gonna count my chickens yet as it’s still fp1

But early signs are definitely encouraging

[FerrariF60]

any free links for FP2??

thanks

[PURE PASSION]

https://www.vipleague.la/fia-f1/fia-formula-1-2023-singapore-f1-gp-practice-2-2-live-streaming

[PURE PASSION]

On this 1st laps on medium, Sainz looks SO much faster then Lec. And this after Monza where he also had the edge.
Is he has picked up his pace, is Lec struggling?? Does this car come more to Sainz corner ??

[FerrariF60]

https://www.vipleague.la/fia-f1/fia-formula-1-2023-singapore-f1-gp-practice-2-2-live-streaming

this one don't work for me

any other ones??

thanks again.

[PURE PASSION]

https://firstsrowsports.tv/stream

[PURE PASSION]

this one don't work for me

any other ones??

thanks again.

For me its a bit odd. You 1st open the link with vpn ,but when its open and start the countdown,you closr the vpn adn refresh the page. And then it opens some new windows but you close them .

[elnano14]

On this 1st laps on medium, Sainz looks SO much faster then Lec. And this after Monza where he also had the edge.
Is he has picked up his pace, is Lec struggling?? Does this car come more to Sainz corner ??

Nah Lec still faster, he had the 3 fastest sector in Fp1 and now still faster in Fp2

[PURE PASSION]

Nah Lec still faster, he had the 3 fastest sector in Fp1 and now still faster in Fp2

Yep , on the 3d run on mediums ,he was the fastest!!!!

[elnano14]

Ok I don't understand this car
Slow in Monaco, slow in Hungary, slow in Zandvoort, but now fast af on this track ***

[PURE PASSION]

Ok I don't understand this car
Slow in Monaco, slow in Hungary, slow in Zandvoort, but now fast af on this track ***

they said that they worked a lot on the high downforce package ,and they found some solutions that eliminates the problems we had on Zandvoort. They where upbeat about our chances here !!

[330 p4]

Ok I don't understand this car
Slow in Monaco, slow in Hungary, slow in Zandvoort, but now fast af on this track ***

New TD's this weekend. Resetting order after last years TD which affected Ferrari. If so bit worrying as next years car maybe to RB concept when pissibly that concept was so good due to flexi things which are now not allowed. Could be Ferrari concept was right all along but they got stung with last years TD? Will see how quali and race are here and for the rest of the year. Maybe today is just light fuel.

[FerrariF60]

New TD's this weekend. Resetting order after last years TD which affected Ferrari. If so bit worrying as next years car maybe to RB concept when pissibly that concept was so good due to flexi things which are now not allowed. Could be Ferrari concept was right all along but they got stung with last years TD? Will see how quali and race are here and for the rest of the year. Maybe today is just light fuel.

maybe this new TD did affect others more then it did us, but i'm still not buying the bull's pace in these free practices....maybe they are hiding something, maybe not

we'll see how quali and race will pan out

[PURE PASSION]

Any race pace times??
i saw on live , that Alo did 1:37:8+ on mediums, Piastri di 1:38:8+ , Ham did 1:38:4+ .Then they saw a window say the Lec was on a 1:38:0 pace ,but on that lap he did 1:38:4+

[elnano14]

Long run pace not as strong as it was in FP1
We started at around the same pace as Lando + RB + Alonso + Mercs, but now 0.2-0.3 slower than the others, maybe the tyres are dead, Red Bull is consistently but not that quick, Alonso + Mercedes look very strong

[PURE PASSION]

Well ,at least the track position plays a lot here. Lets hope we are not TOO slow that we will be overtaken . I think we have a lot chances to take pole ,even 1-2.

[FerrariF60]

Long run pace not as strong as it was in FP1
We started at around the same pace as Lando + RB + Alonso + Mercs, but now 0.2-0.3 slower than the others, maybe the tyres are dead, Red Bull is consistently but not that quick, Alonso + Mercedes look very strong

so all the hype of our race pace from FP1 long run pace for nothing....
at least we've seem to implement something that works on high DF tracks that it didn't earlier in the season

[patrese86]

Oh god they are getting my hopes up lol

[330 p4]

Oh god they are getting my hopes up lol

Its great you can have a nice Friday evening and look forward to Saturday where on occasion they feed your enthusiasm even more but then comes Sunday, the tyre start to go, RB run and hide and Ferrari may or may not fend off Merc, Aston and Mclaren (on a good weekend).

[Cavallino]

i wanted to post this, i haven't read any posts, or watched any sessions yet.

But if the running order this weekend looks more like Baku, then everything i've watched and read about this coming weekend is wrong, and most of the F1 fanbase is clueless.

[FerrariF60]

i wanted to post this, i haven't read any posts, or watched any sessions yet.

But if the running order this weekend looks more like Baku, then everything i've watched and read about this coming weekend is wrong, and most of the F1 fanbase is clueless.

time will tell mate
i too think red fools are hiding something and only playing with us

[Cavallino]

time will tell mate
i too think red fools are hiding something and only playing with us

it's not even red fools, no one is even picking us for best of the rest this weekend.

saying this track is similar to Hungary, so advantage Merc.

So Baku doesn't exist?

if you think oh, Hungary is more relevant because it is more recent, then you drastically overestimate in season car development

[Cavallino]

New TD's this weekend. Resetting order after last years TD which affected Ferrari. If so bit worrying as next years car maybe to RB concept when pissibly that concept was so good due to flexi things which are now not allowed. Could be Ferrari concept was right all along but they got stung with last years TD? Will see how quali and race are here and for the rest of the year. Maybe today is just light fuel.

Sam Collins on F1TV said Ferrari had more fuel in FP1, so no, the pace is real

[Cavallino]

anyone have race sim times?

[gump1480]

anyone have race sim times?

8212

[Cavallino]

8212

that would mean checo and alonso have the edge. Other than that it's really tight. Hard to say.

I also think qualifying doesn't matter as much here as before, more straight, more full throttle.

They added a DRS zone too no?

[paolo lalli]

As I maintain always expect the unexpected .My take is that ferrari are on the pace and it's real.The pu plays 2nd to no one .Ferrari are over coming there issues quickly with the car they are holding there cards close and that how it should be hopefully no more internal leaks,with any progress made.Is an upset on the table in Singapore handing Red bull there first loss my opinion I'd most certainly.

[Aziz]

As I maintain always expect the unexpected .My take is that ferrari are on the pace and it's real.The pu plays 2nd to no one .Ferrari are over coming there issues quickly with the car they are holding there cards close and that how it should be hopefully no more internal leaks,with any progress made.Is an upset on the table in Singapore handing Red bull there first loss my opinion I'd most certainly.

RB seems up and running in FP3

[PURE PASSION]

We look to have the pace.
Sainz is very strong.
Lec cant put everything together ,and it looks like in every fast lap something happens (traffic, yellows etc)
Lets see

[stefa]

So far, so good....

[Rishu]

Track position is king on this circuit very imp Quali coming up. Hopefully team is up for it, drivers, race engineers, pitwall, mechanics, we have to win this one

[nani_s23]

Track position is king on this circuit very imp Quali coming up. Hopefully team is up for it, drivers, race engineers, pitwall, mechanics, we have to win this one

Yeah by the looks of FP’s Sainz is more comfortable & has the best chance for a win.
Unless leclerc magic quali lap.

[Aviamata]

Something's wrong with Charles

[stefa]

Yeah by the looks of FP’s Sainz is more comfortable & has the best chance for a win.
Unless leclerc magic quali lap.

As neither of Ferrari drivers are not contenders for WDC, why does it matter who will win, if Ferrari win?!?!?!?!

[Aviamata]

Wow so close ! I hope stupid strategy team won't send our guys BEFORE Verstappen in Q3 last run

[patrese86]

We were on used tyres for that run in Q2??? That's impressive

[stefa]

That was clearly impeding from MV

[stefa]

:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl:ferrarifl

[stefa]

CL needs to step up his game!

[elnano14]

Charles seems still can't put together a lap

[arcabe]

max is out for Q3

[arcabe]

11-15th place are all RedBull drivers.:-D

[drax]

Let’s try the 1,2 the Bulls seem to have real issues on this track, I think this is going to be our best chance all year.

That or the TD18 nerfed their car

[stefa]

Let's go Ferrari!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aviamata]

Come on let's get a front row lockout this time

[stefa]

Looking good....

[Aziz]

11-15th place are all RedBull drivers.:-D

RB looks nerfed, they look like us last season

[Aviamata]

come on we send our guys before our oppoments again

[drax]

1,3 so close

[stefa]

Fudging Mercedes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aviamata]

Come on !!!!

[Aviamata]

7 thousands of second

[patrese86]

Great job from Carlos and Leclerc was unlucky, he must of lost a little bit in S3.

[SilverSpeed]

Q2 recap
https://i.ibb.co/tzrt1yZ/Untitled.png

[tifosi1993]

That was a good qualifying. Wanted an 1-2 but alas. Charles lost the lap in turns 16-17.

But the elephant in the room is RB's performance. The car that dominated tracks like Monaco, Hungary is out of Q2. So one thing is clear, the technical directive has hurt them. Flexi floor clamp down has clipped their wing.

[Aviamata]

That was a good qualifying. Wanted an 1-2 but alas. Charles lost the lap in turns 16-17.

But the elephant in the room is RB's performance. The car that dominated tracks like Monaco, Hungary is out of Q2. So one thing is clear, the technical directive has hurt them. Flexi floor clamp down has clipped their wing.

This could be the secret of their enourmous performance

[nani_s23]

That was a good qualifying. Wanted an 1-2 but alas. Charles lost the lap in turns 16-17.

But the elephant in the room is RB's performance. The car that dominated tracks like Monaco, Hungary is out of Q2. So one thing is clear, the technical directive has hurt them. Flexi floor clamp down has clipped their wing.

I too think the same, but we need to give one more race Suzuka.

As Singapore being one off circuit where Merc 2015 struggled & Now RB 2023. Although it’s a high Technical circuit, I don’t give much reading now on RB’s performance.

[Timpolidori]

Without jumping to conclusions, it’s frustrating that this TD comes in once it’s all sewn up. We always get picked up early in the season and end up in a mess for a season plus putting it right. Fingers crossed we get the upper hand for once in 2024. Siamo arrivati sta settimana amici!!!

[samboozik]

That was a good qualifying. Wanted an 1-2 but alas. Charles lost the lap in turns 16-17.

But the elephant in the room is RB's performance. The car that dominated tracks like Monaco, Hungary is out of Q2. So one thing is clear, the technical directive has hurt them. Flexi floor clamp down has clipped their wing.

I'm so wishing the TD is hurting them, but I think it's track dependent.
Anyways lets wait till Japan and we'll get a clearer picture.

[racingbradley]

That was a better show from our guys to-day. :-D Pity Russell got in the middle
But to-morrow is where the points are. I bet RB will break curfew and work on the car.

[nani_s23]

Good job by Carlos, unless he bins it…it’s a race win for him.

Charles was on pole till S2…. Somehow he was struggling in S3 all the weekend not able to nail a perfect lap.

[tifosi1993]

I too think the same, but we need to give one more race Suzuka.

As Singapore being one off circuit where Merc 2015 struggled & Now RB 2023. Although it’s a high Technical circuit, I don’t give much reading now on RB’s performance.

2015 Merc's strength was the engine, not the chassis. Ferrari won in technical tracks like Sepang and Hungary, RB should've won in Monaco if not Ricciardo's botched pitstop. So it wasn't that surprising for them to get beat in Singapore by Ferrari.

But this RB is an entirely different beast. Unstoppable up until now. So to me, it is not a coincidence that both RB are out of Q2 as soon as the FIA clamped down on flexible body parts of the car.

It looks like the repeat of last year's TD39.

[elnano14]

2015 Merc's strength was the engine, not the chassis. Ferrari won in technical tracks like Sepang and Hungary, RB should've won in Monaco if not Ricciardo's botched pitstop. So it wasn't that surprising for them to get beat in Singapore by Ferrari.

But this RB is an entirely different beast. Unstoppable up until now. So to me, it is not a coincidence that both RB are out of Q2 as soon as the FIA clamped down on flexible body parts of the car.

It looks like the repeat of last year's TD39.

You mistaked 2015 and 2016 Monaco race
Mercedes was the fastest teams in Monaco 2015
In Hungary the Mercs looked like once again the fastest team (front row locked out). Slow start and crashing with Ricciardo made them fell behind (Hamilton and Rosberg were closing the gap to Vettel lap by lap)

[jgonzalesm6]

That was a good qualifying. Wanted an 1-2 but alas. Charles lost the lap in turns 16-17.

But the elephant in the room is RB's performance. The car that dominated tracks like Monaco, Hungary is out of Q2. So one thing is clear, the technical directive has hurt them. Flexi floor clamp down has clipped their wing.


This could be the secret of their enourmous performance


I too think the same, but we need to give one more race Suzuka.

As Singapore being one off circuit where Merc 2015 struggled & Now RB 2023. Although it’s a high Technical circuit, I don’t give much reading now on RB’s performance.

agreed (bolded area)


I'm so wishing the TD is hurting them, but I think it's track dependent.
Anyways lets wait till Japan and we'll get a clearer picture.

yep (bolded area)


2015 Merc's strength was the engine, not the chassis. Ferrari won in technical tracks like Sepang and Hungary, RB should've won in Monaco if not Ricciardo's botched pitstop. So it wasn't that surprising for them to get beat in Singapore by Ferrari.

But this RB is an entirely different beast. Unstoppable up until now. So to me, it is not a coincidence that both RB are out of Q2 as soon as the FIA clamped down on flexible body parts of the car.

It looks like the repeat of last year's TD39.

https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1703068942489772167

[paolo lalli]

The new regs have hampered red bull.The ferrari pu the best in the business.A ferrari victory is on the cards.Well done to ferrari and the drivers.

[racingbradley]

The new regs have hampered red bull.The ferrari pu the best in the business.A ferrari victory is on the cards.Well done to ferrari and the drivers.
Mercedes and McLaren look strong too. I worry about them getting in the way.

[elnano14]

What the ****
Leclerc got 3 place grid penalty for the same incident back in Monoco, how the **** that Max with the impeding on Tsunoda only get a reprimand ???

[elnano14]

In the FIA documents it said "...it was noted that the representative of car 22 chose not to attend the hearing"
This is rigged

[wisepie]

Great quali performance from both drivers, shame Charles couldn't make it a front-row lockout, good to see RB on the back foot for the first time in ages. Russell can be pretty aggressive and with NOR and HAM behind them, our tyre deg will probably be the problem as Merc also have extra mediums to play with. Hoping for a good, clean race.

[nani_s23]

2015 Merc's strength was the engine, not the chassis. Ferrari won in technical tracks like Sepang and Hungary, RB should've won in Monaco if not Ricciardo's botched pitstop. So it wasn't that surprising for them to get beat in Singapore by Ferrari.

But this RB is an entirely different beast. Unstoppable up until now. So to me, it is not a coincidence that both RB are out of Q2 as soon as the FIA clamped down on flexible body parts of the car.

It looks like the repeat of last year's TD39.

That’s what it’s 50-50 at the moment. Baku is little similar to Singapore. RB were fastest in Baku & Monaco along with Ferrari.

Hence I’m surprised RB being very slow here. Literally struggled all FP’s. But on the other side, on Friday their race pace was very quick atleast from Perez. Hence I want to give one more race to see RB’s performance with regards to new TD.

[TTRSMAD]

Both Red Bull were out in Q2, something is definitely different with this car since the TD. This is not the same car that won all the races this year.

I hope this turns around the season because this was getting boring with Verstappen winning all the races. We will see if Red Bull start eating it's tires tomorrow, it could be indicative.

It will be interesting race and hope for both our guys to finish on the podium.

[Cavallino]

we have to wait until Suzuka, but i think it would be the part of the plank wear directive too, we didn't see them sparking up a storm today

[Cavallino]

no penalities for Leclerc?

we took care of our tyres decently in Baku, the race pace was good there.

Charles is on the clean side, if it rains overnight again, that will matter

[paolo lalli]

One more race after Singapore and that will determine if the FIA directive on flexing etc has taken its toll on red bull.If it has then carma has caught them they threw ferrari under the bus when ferrari was a rocket in 2021.That FIA directive to ferrari hurt big time.

[FerrariF60]

One more race after Singapore and that will determine if the FIA directive on flexing etc has taken its toll on red bull.If it has then carma has caught them they threw ferrari under the bus when ferrari was a rocket in 2021.That FIA directive to ferrari hurt big time.

Ferrari never had a rocket in 2021

In 2019 we were quick cause we cheated ( some would say we had something innovative, but in essence we were cheating by tricking the fuel flow meter) hence why we had a quick car cause we were using more fuel

And in 2022 we also had a quick car at the beginning but it lived to be short due to TD39

It it’s funny how the FIA quickly jumped and introduced the TD39 in 2022 just after a few races, yet this year with red bull took them 13 races to implement this TD after they pretty much won both championships....