Time will tell, but I would be utterly deflated if we stood pat (brought nothing) to Spain. There may be more ambitious improvements in the pipeline, but I have to think there will be some visible gains in this race
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Time will tell, but I would be utterly deflated if we stood pat (brought nothing) to Spain. There may be more ambitious improvements in the pipeline, but I have to think there will be some visible gains in this race
I hope so. I somehow like the way Ferrari is silent about any upgrades....Quote:
Originally Posted by abbottcostello
New rumor is that there will be some upgrades in Spain and bigger changes will come to Monaco.
They were silent on the PU before testing began, as well. I hope we will see some of the efficiency of bringing changes quicker that Luca talked about though. And a little showing of the fact we've now got Allison wouldn't hurt either!Quote:
Originally Posted by Honzus
Seems to be what other teams are also saying about their efforts. No one is really predicting any huge closing of the gap to the Mercs, a real testament to the advantage they've managed:-sQuote:
Originally Posted by Winter
All in all, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Ferrari distinguishing itself from the rest of the pack & closing to Mercs a bit more. Steady & modest gains would please me!
Difficult to trust. Because Monaco is not really a good track to bring updates instead of Spain where the race is dedicated for aero update and to test new software to improve the vmax in this long straight line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winter
Well I certainly hope that none of this is true. We need big updates NOW not "later". If we don't bring significant amount of big updates to Barcelona and others will then we're definitely going to fall even further behind and that would really mean game over for us this season. So let's just wait and see what happens this weekend, before jumping to any conclusions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulpg87
I don't know about the aero and chassis mods that need to be made or when that might happen. But, if the turbo is truly undersized, and that is a major factor in getting the right output from the PU, it is game over until next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero Horse
It might be a good track to test any improvements we have made in terms of traction...:HmmQuote:
Originally Posted by Lebaronrouge
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Originally Posted by Nero Horse
thejudge13 @thejudge13 36m
Mercedes #F1 have aero package worth 0.6s per lap for Barcelona and a very nice sound system in addition http://wp.me/p2HWOP-oS2
.6 per lap, no way :-(:-(Quote:
Originally Posted by RedRebel40
YES way.. & we will have 1.5 sec per lap worth of upgarde in Barcelona !! :-D
Uh!! every media is praising about the developments of other teams except us. F14T is the worst car in the history of F1, lets us believe so (they want us to believe) & no one talks about podium finish in China... It is a fluke....
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!! When & Where is it going to end?
Lets payback with a strong performance from now on. Trusting & Loving Ferrari more than ever before, We will deliver the KO punch.
Forza Ferrari :thumb:love
:ferrarifl
Let burst them :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by PadGeT
http://thejudge13.com/2014/05/08/dai...y-2014/#Alonso and Raikkonen unlikely to be adding silverware to the cabinetQuote:
Alonso and Raikkonen unlikely to be adding silverware to the cabinet
It is perhaps fortunate that Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen are paid their salary in dollars because it looks highly unlikely they will be receiving silverware anytime soon.
With Formula One back in Europe this weekend – following a three week break – the majority of teams have a raft of upgrades planned for their cars. Historically once the fly-away races have been completed the factories come out with all guns blazing – except Ferrari it seems – who are coming to the party with a water pistol…
TJ13 has been informed that the rumoured updates that were scheduled for this weekend have been put back for a more substantial reworking of the various parts as more problems are being recognised through the development process.
WIth the championship becoming a private battle between the two Mercedes drivers, it has been decided that bigger steps will be required to close the gap and work continues apace on effectively an updated F14-T. The parts that should have been run at the Grand Prix will be evaluated in the test following the race and includes a shorter nose which will allow a better passage of air below the car and around the sidepods. The new design will also bring benefit to the rear wing.
Whilst praise has been given to the excellent work performed by the Shell scientists who have delivered lubricants and fuels that have improved both combustion and lowered the heat from the engine by reducing internal friction – the main underlying problem is linked to the size of the sidepods.
Malaysian Grand Prix, Sepang 27-30 March 2014In pre-season testing, observers remarked on how small the air intakes were on all Ferrari powered cars but as efficient as the original engine figures may have been, the reduced size of air intake is causing a significant loss of downforce. Ironically it is also the restricted airflow that is curbing the release of horse power because of the heat being produced in the electrical transfer which is limiting the car on the straights.
It is interesting that no-one considered that Sauber trialed slimmer sidepods in 203 in an attempt to improve aerodynamic efficiency, but were forced to make huge changes to the rear of their car during the season when it did not perform as expected. With exhaust blowing being effectively removed this solution is not available to the Ferrari squad.
Mercedes themselves have sidepods that tighten in at the rear but the package they have designed is a complete factory design with parts of the power unit built into the chassis itself.
Maranello have also been focusing on the optimisation of the electrical system in preparation for the summer months but other issues have been unearthed which has forced the engineers to rethink all possible solutions. The size of turbo-charger that Ferrari currently use is smaller than the unit Mercedes have employed and in turn this effects the potential of the MGU-H.
The B-spec car that Ferrari is working on reportedly contains ground-breaking designs which have been used in the aerospace industry and their focus is on a stronger material which will increase the rigidity of the chassis itself. The interweaving of the various layers of carbon fibre should move the chassis technology into a new era and is one of the reasons the F14-Tb will be introduced – however the existing problems with the current car indicates that their problems are complex indeed.
http://thejudge13.com/2014/05/08/dai...y-2014/#Alonso and Raikkonen unlikely to be adding silverware to the cabinetQuote:
Alonso and Raikkonen unlikely to be adding silverware to the cabinet
It is perhaps fortunate that Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen are paid their salary in dollars because it looks highly unlikely they will be receiving silverware anytime soon.
With Formula One back in Europe this weekend – following a three week break – the majority of teams have a raft of upgrades planned for their cars. Historically once the fly-away races have been completed the factories come out with all guns blazing – except Ferrari it seems – who are coming to the party with a water pistol…
TJ13 has been informed that the rumoured updates that were scheduled for this weekend have been put back for a more substantial reworking of the various parts as more problems are being recognised through the development process.
WIth the championship becoming a private battle between the two Mercedes drivers, it has been decided that bigger steps will be required to close the gap and work continues apace on effectively an updated F14-T. The parts that should have been run at the Grand Prix will be evaluated in the test following the race and includes a shorter nose which will allow a better passage of air below the car and around the sidepods. The new design will also bring benefit to the rear wing.
Whilst praise has been given to the excellent work performed by the Shell scientists who have delivered lubricants and fuels that have improved both combustion and lowered the heat from the engine by reducing internal friction – the main underlying problem is linked to the size of the sidepods.
Malaysian Grand Prix, Sepang 27-30 March 2014In pre-season testing, observers remarked on how small the air intakes were on all Ferrari powered cars but as efficient as the original engine figures may have been, the reduced size of air intake is causing a significant loss of downforce. Ironically it is also the restricted airflow that is curbing the release of horse power because of the heat being produced in the electrical transfer which is limiting the car on the straights.
It is interesting that no-one considered that Sauber trialed slimmer sidepods in 203 in an attempt to improve aerodynamic efficiency, but were forced to make huge changes to the rear of their car during the season when it did not perform as expected. With exhaust blowing being effectively removed this solution is not available to the Ferrari squad.
Mercedes themselves have sidepods that tighten in at the rear but the package they have designed is a complete factory design with parts of the power unit built into the chassis itself.
Maranello have also been focusing on the optimisation of the electrical system in preparation for the summer months but other issues have been unearthed which has forced the engineers to rethink all possible solutions. The size of turbo-charger that Ferrari currently use is smaller than the unit Mercedes have employed and in turn this effects the potential of the MGU-H.
The B-spec car that Ferrari is working on reportedly contains ground-breaking designs which have been used in the aerospace industry and their focus is on a stronger material which will increase the rigidity of the chassis itself. The interweaving of the various layers of carbon fibre should move the chassis technology into a new era and is one of the reasons the F14-Tb will be introduced – however the existing problems with the current car indicates that their problems are complex indeed.
lol, I think that's one of the more imaginative rumors I've heard. There are strict regulations regarding the car's constructions and permitted materials
That post is so grotesque... it hurts my eyes :-(
and dat too a double post!! :ouch
Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya, Spain (08/05/2014)
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via AMUS
So not any updates on F14T?
Some latest rumors said:
-No new nose for Ferrari in Barcelona GP as it didn't pass crash-test.
-Ferrari will bring new smaller cooling.
http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...1dd-776990.jpg
Any1 else see the white vertical striation on RW endplate?
I don't get it.Why?
I like the all-black leading edge of the rear wing. Only aesthetics I know, but that's a good look.
Look at the exhaust. To me, it seems that it getting wider near the end. They did talk about doing that to increase the noise of the cars. Hopefully it will have some effect.
From Mr.F1
I don't believe this is true and I have no idea how reliable the source is.Quote:
EXCLUSIVE: Fernando Alonso will sign a contract with Mercedes GP in a few days. Same duo as 2007 with McLaren
Haha. Funny joke.:lol:lol:lol:clap:clap:clap:clap:-!:-!:-!:haha::haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste
To me. They have most solid driver line up in F1 now.
Well that would be the final blow for Ferrari. If that happens, we can prepare for a looooong time in the midfield. If he would see something possitive happening in near future, he would not go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ste
Hopefully a wild wild WILD rumor.
Judge13? Is this the same guy who fabricated a story about Alonso calling Kimi "the savior of the nation" in Bahrain. Also, having a package that indicates 0.6s per lap in the CFD and windtunnel is not the same as having 0.6s on track. We should know that better than anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedRebel40
Tobias Gruner also reports no new nose for us (or anyone else for that matter)
Tobias Grüner F1 @tgruener 5m
#F1 I heard teams will not bring any new noses this weekend in #Barcelona. Sorry guys - and girls.
New rear wing with single strut, plus monkey seat. The endplates also look to have more edge slots, new mainplain and the flap appears to have a steeper angle as well:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnH-ggvIYAA5pPs.jpg
Via @ScarbsF1 :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnIE4S9CEAASh0T.jpg
Alonso is running the 'megaphone' exhaust. Kimi is not.
Source: gpupdate.net
Mercedes has singled out Ferrari as its biggest threat for the 2014 Formula 1 World Championship, even though the Italian marque recorded just one podium finish from the opening four races of the season.
Although Ferrari sits fifth and more than 100 points adrift of Mercedes, Silver Arrows chief Toto Wolff reckons the outfit has the development ability and driver talent in Fernando Alonso to mount a serious challenge.
"I think it will be Ferrari," said Wolff when asked which team he believes will put up the biggest fight.
"They are the only other team to have everything, car and powertrain, in-house.
"And I reckon Alonso to be a real race monster who can achieve anything."
Wolff expects Mercedes to be in a less dominant position at this weekend's Spanish Grand Prix.
"I am not afraid of this race but we enter it with a lot of respect," Wolff explained.
"Catalunya will prove how good our car really is, because we compete there on a 'Red Bull track'.
"We all know it will become tighter. If you look at Red Bull at the first test and where they went from there, they really made impressive progress. And Ferrari showed excellent shape too lately. So nothing is guaranteed."