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I suppose that it is possible that this MGU-H design is so inherently superior to the design used by Ferrari and Renault that the power difference is impossible to overcome.
That said, I see nothing in the Sporting Regulations that prohibit teams from switching engines in mid-season. In fact, the FIA has required all PUs to have identical mounting points, presumably to insure that all PUS are similarly stressed, but it also opens the door for PU swapping. Of course, teams have contracts and Mercedes has limits on its ability to produce PUs. But, who knows whether a certain fizzy drink maker might be able to buy their way out of one engine contract and into another.
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mirafiori
I see you are based in Italy:Hmm, most of your posts seem to only report negative information regarding Ferrari and you love telling us how wonderful and powerful the Mercedes car is, any chance of some positive news from Italy to share with us Ferrari fans.
Relax, we shouldn't let any of these news affects us:-P
Whatever happens, we'll find out in the next few races. If Ferrari do well, we'll have plenty to celebrate about. If Ferrari don't, then we'll have to endure it and hope for the best until the team fix itself.
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gvera
It doesn't say 'more air' but 'fresher air' and so they can extract more power from the engine.
I think I get the idea behind their reasoning, as the turbo side (extremely hot) is separated from the compresor by the MGU-H thats placed in the middle, the compressor works cooler.
That maybe true, but I think it all depends on the effectivity of the intercooler.
Yes Sorry it's fresher, translated after few minutes without reading and didnt rember it perfectly
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Hornet
Relax, we shouldn't let any of these news affects us:-P
Whatever happens, we'll find out in the next few races. If Ferrari do well, we'll have plenty to celebrate about. If Ferrari don't, then we'll have to endure it and hope for the best until the team fix itself.
Only good news are rumor about us sandbagging. Overall just bad news like everywhere and basing on tests there is not much to add.
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I think this is a good article to sum up things...nothing we don't know...
F1 2014 Season Team Preview: Ferrari - Dark horses?
Once again, it seems the team from Maranello will play catch up; nothing is written, but Alonso $ Co for sure are under pressure to deliver.
Tuesday, March 11, 2014
March 11th, 2014 (F1plus/Graham Kelloh).- Nico Rosberg summed it up. In the middle of the third and final pre-season test before everyone headed out to Melbourne for round one he reckoned he had a good handle on where his Mercedes team was on pace relative to all others. Well, all apart from one. For him, Ferrari remained a mystery. And he wasn't the only one feeling this way.
Perhaps appropriately F1's most enigmatic team has been the enigma of 2014 pre-season testing, for the most part getting on with its business without drawing attention to itself; in Anthony Rowlinson's words performing 'a measured and consistent programme'.
Confusing the whole issue, with Ferrari there was none of the extremes on show at either end of the spectrum from Mercedes or from Renault/Red Bull - instead the consensus is that while neither team nor engine were experiencing anything like the woes of Red Bull or Renault, and indeed were running pretty reliably at least, they weren't reaching for the stars either.
One Ferrari 'insider' was quoted in the final test saying that the Italian power unit is ceding some 75bhp to the Merc, with the Scuderia struggling to understand how the German marque was extracting so much power from the fuel restrictions.
Certainly, even before this year the Ferrari engine tended to be more fuel-thirsty than the rest. Equally certainly, there has been no rising-tide-lifts-all-boats experience with the Ferrari unit as there has with all of those powered by Mercedes, and if Ferrari has ceded ground then with engine homologation clawing it back won't be easy.
While the F14 T has looked a bit of a handful out on track, particularly with a loose rear end both upon acceleration (which caught Kimi Raikkonen out in Bahrain, resulting in him ending a test day slightly early after a smash) as well as more generally aerodynamically, something that has been a Ferrari trait for a while.
But nevertheless there seems a fairly strong case for optimism.
All the way through testing only the Ferrari has been a consistent presence among the Merc-powered teams at the business end of the timing screens.
At the very least, one would imagine that if the eight Mercedes-powered cars will get into Q3 at Melbourne then it will be the two Ferraris that complete the ten.
Raikkonen will inevitably fight each other for points.
In the third test the red cars started to show their hand, and the lap times were fairly impressive: not quite on the level on show from the Mercedes but seemingly enough to place it in the next group up with the likes of McLaren and Williams.
Edd Straw described the Scuderia as 'coming up the rails', while some optimists have Ferrari as the Merc's closest challenger.
Furthermore, the Ferrari design has just about the tightest cooling out there, which reflects well on the team's confidence in the engine's reliability and in how the whole package works together.
Its millstone of the past few years of wind tunnel correlation and having to use the Toyota tunnel in Cologne appears lifted too, with its own tunnel recalibrated, reopened and reportedly giving results that chime well with what is happening on track.
Add to it that the team turned up to the second Bahrain test with loads of upgrades may show a collective with its technical swagger back. While for those of you who like their history, on previous occasions wherein the rules have changed radically, in particular engine rules, Ferrari has tended to be right there right away.
And in a converse sense Ferrari's low profile is likely to bode well, as had a red car gone after a headline-grabbing low fuel glory run it would have set off alarm bells, that the team had felt the need to get the Italian press off its back - indeed one recalls that it was in 2012's pre-season that everyone really knew that the car then was struggling when it did precisely that.
But whatever is the case at the broadest level the Scuderia simply must deliver this year. It's got all of the budget and facilities in the world, its previous wind tunnel problems sorted and its simulation capacity much improved, star technical recruits such as James Allison and Dirk de Beer, and one of the strongest driver line ups that the sport has ever seen, both experienced and smart - exactly what you want with the new formula.
President Luca Montezemolo has already given his pronouncement, that he is 'sick of coming second', and you feel that Ferrari has to make a credible championship challenge - and unlike the one in 2012 one not so conspicuously based on the skills of one of its drivers - at the very least. There is nowhere to hide. It all should concentrate the mind beautifully.
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Hornet
Whatever happens, we'll find out in the next few races. If Ferrari do well, we'll have plenty to celebrate about. If Ferrari don't, then we'll have to endure it and hope for the best until the team fix itself.
+1000
Well said. :thumb
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Good or Bad we will support The Scuderia!!!. They going to makes us proud in 2014 and it's going to be an exciting season.
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Alo: 'what we saw in testing was representative. Torque delivery is v diff'rent
Kimi: 'Ferrari a more relaxed team than when I was here last' and reports he & g'friend r having baby are is bulls*** ''
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I hope...
Niki Lauda: "We will only know when the first three races are over, but I think Ferrari is on roughly the same level as Mercedes"
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f1tomi8
I hope...
Niki Lauda: "We will only know when the first three races are over, but I think Ferrari is on roughly the same level as Mercedes"
First time I hoped Niki Lauda 's comments were right...
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are they also playing the game?
it was first stefano then horner
now its lauda.
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tifosi1993
:pray:pray:pray Come on boys ... Surprise them all..
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f1tomi8
I hope...
Niki Lauda: "We will only know when the first three races are over, but I think Ferrari is on roughly the same level as Mercedes"
I hope that's true. As long as we're on the same level as Merc, we can win it.
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Alonso: Why fuel tactics will not harm F1 for fans
Amid concerns that racing may be robbed of some excitement by drivers needing to look after fuel, Alonso expects a similar approach to previous campaigns when tyre conservation was key.
"I don't think it will be a big difference compared to the previous years, especially when Pirelli arrived in F1," said Alonso, speaking during an appearance at a Shell media event in Melbourne on Wednesday.
"We have been managing the tyres a lot because of high degradation. Now we will manage the tyres, we will manage a little bit the batteries and the fuel consumption - but all in the same way.
"It will be hard to see on TV for the spectators when we are saving two or three tenths of a second, or even from the grandstand.
"If we save three tenths of a second on one lap, at one particular grandstand we save half of one tenth - so if someone can recognise when we are saving fuel they are quite expert."
Alonso also reckons that despite a lot of talk about a whole new way of racing in 2014, the impact of the new rules would be less than many expect.
"The acceleration and torque delivery from the power unit is a little bit different, the gear usage is a little bit different compared to the past and all these tools we have available this year, we need to maximise them in a different way and need to learn a couple of things," he explained.
"But this is a motorsport competition. When the green light is on nothing will change in terms of adrenaline, overtakes, strategy, driver management, or tyre saving.
"Things will be very, very similar to last year when the green light is on."
Jonathan Noble - AutoSport
http://au.eurosport.com/formula-1/al...91/story.shtml
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Senna4Ever
what? Can someone please translate ...
It might break forum rules. Use your imagination he is saying these twitter speculation is like brown stuff falling out the sky.
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Senna4Ever
what? Can someone please translate ...
Well the word means *** ****
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mirafiori
Well the word means *** ****:oops
Obviously the mods are not Italian because everytime I write the "s" word it gets deleted immediately! :lol
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Alonso and Raikkonen said that is things go "ok" we can aim to podium or at least points. However there are so many variables this year that no one really knows.
source: omnicorse.it
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Ferris
Obviously the mods are not Italian because everytime I write the "s" word it gets deleted immediately! :lol
have deleted it and handed a warning, i speak Italian.
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Paulpg87
Alonso and Raikkonen said that is things go "ok" we can aim to podium or at least points. However there are so many variables this year that no one really knows.
source: omnicorse.it
To me they seemed a little more optimistic!!!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112862
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PURE PASSION
translation in the italian one is a little bit less optimistic. However if it's optimistic.. well better. I would like to win.
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Paulpg87
translation in the italian one is a little bit less optimistic. However if it's optimistic.. well better. I would like to win.
Careful you don't want to be to optimistic.
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Rob
have deleted it and handed a warning, i speak Italian.
Molto bene, allora č necessario avere dormito :lol
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mark p
It might break forum rules. Use your imagination he is saying these twitter speculation is like brown stuff falling out the sky.
;) thank you ... I would have used my imagination but I wasn't able to decrypt the way he put the words in a row ... no matter how I tried it didn't make sense to me. But could also be my bad English as well ...
Nevertheless it seems it wasn't much information I missed ...
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Ferris
Molto bene, allora č necessario avere dormito :lol
:lol
Ero al lavoro visto solo quando tornato a casa :-D
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Rob
:lol
Ero al lavoro visto solo quando tornato a casa :-D
Non si puō essere on-line per tutto il giorno.
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