maybe this is the start of the dream team!
i just know an alonsomainia era is coming!
maybe this is the start of the dream team!
i just know an alonsomainia era is coming!
Since the day he arrived, and we are on the way up!And Mclaren on the way down!
F1 engineers move about all the time, its no big deal. Look at Nick Tombazis he was at Ferrari went to McLaren and came back again.![]()
I think he also helped with our F Duct issues.
Good man
In Stefano Domenicali, we have a team boss who has proved to be a leader. - Luca diMontezemelo
Wasn't we discussing this in July? http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/06/2...joins-ferrari/
Or was there another top Mclaren employee leaving them for Ferrari?
I know this sounds territorial, but regardless of how good Pat Fry is, he has been part of the enemy for a long time, and I am wary of him joining. Is he cutting all ties from the decades he was with McCheaters? Does he dump all his friends who still work for them. Would he not feel inclined to let slip to a mate Ferrari are working on this area of the car.
Sorry I don't trust Mclaren and anyone who's embedded in their history for so long makes me suspicious.
We don't need him, let him enjoy his gardening leave.
I think these people are professionals and of course they have friends and ties in old team but this is far more serious business that bromances you have in normal offices. they are not bunch of woman who go gossiping in every chance possible. i wouldn't be that suspicious
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Consider the quotes from current drivers over the years to the press from this same industry, if they are human enough to do this to a media organisation, what on earth do they say behind closed doors.
Regardless that it is a serious business, Stepney and CO proved its not immune from deliberate sabotage, let alone unprofessional hints from Pat Fry to an old mate struggling at Mclaren for new idea's.
I am only saying he is human and his world revolved around the enemy for a very long time and I doubt like most humans he has severed all ties just because he left.
I heard that h wanted to join with Alonso again, as i think he designed the 07 McLaren. If i were him, i would be annoyed to lose the title like they di by favouring the wrong driver, and maybe he liked Alonso and wanted to rejoin with him.
I don't know, these are all rumours.![]()
In Stefano Domenicali, we have a team boss who has proved to be a leader. - Luca diMontezemelo
Isn't he the one who had been sacrificed by mclaren during the liegate involving lewis hamilton in the opening race of 2009 in australia? when lewis tried to lie and get away with it but got caught? and to not let lewis get the big penalty mclaren decided he, pat fry was the one to take the fault? i know officially it was Ryan who got sacked, but there were many rummors saying that fry was also not satisfied with the way things were being done in the team ever since fernando was at the team (the way mclaren has to always work 100% for lewis). i think he was one of the guys at mclaren who wanted to work with fernando.
if that was Pat Fry... (and im almost 100% sure this is the guy) this is exactly what mclaren would deserve, if he had helped us in any input specially about mclaren's F-Duct.
I know that at the time it was said that he made the decision, that he was going to take the blame, doing it for the best of the team, but clearly it was all about ron dennis needs to protect lewis hamilton, from something he did very wrong, and sacrificed someone who had been working for the team for 2 decades, so that his spoiled childish driver would get away with it, he always needs to come first, and i don't think pat agreed with that.
Good for Pat! after all to work for the scuderia is the goal of everyone that works in F1!
Last edited by Poltergeistes; 8th November 2010 at 04:18.
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Yes thank you Dave ryan is his full name, i didn't clarify what i meant on my first post that's why i edited it, i meant pat fry would follow leaving that after that incident for firing ryan over something hamilton did wrong, that he wasn't a bloke that was ever happy about sacrificing just everybody else in the name of lewis. reportedly started feeling that way after how mclaren treated fernando.
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