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    Can McLaren and Ferrari pressure Red Bull? (European GP pre-race analysis)


    by Keith Collantine

    Wondering whether we might see our first decent race in Valencia this year I wrote this in the European Grand Prix preview:

    "The best we can hope for is a similar situation to what happened in Turkey, with the faster McLarens and probably Ferraris starting behind the Red Bulls and a battle for the lead developing on-track that way.

    Well, we’re halfway there. Red Bull have locked out the front row of the grid. But can McLaren and Ferrari take the fight to them in the race?"

    The start

    With the clean, inside line Sebastian Vettel will have to do something silly to be anywhere other than first at the end of lap one.

    Mark Webber is more vulnerable in second place, on the dustier side of the grid and with Lewis Hamilton poised to dive up the inside on the run to the first corner.

    Webber may have to take a leaf out of his team mate’s book – Vettel squeezed Jenson Button hard at the start last year to keep him behind.

    Throughout practice we saw drivers struggling to slow their cars down at turn one. Tomorrow all 24 of them will have to get their braking point for the corner exactly right at the same time – there’s high chance for front wings to go flying.

    Although we’ve never seen a safety car deployment at Valencia, one could easily arise. After all, both the first two practice sessions had to be red-flagged so the marshals could recover debris or cars from areas they couldn’t access quickly.

    And an early safety car period could make the strategy situation very interesting indeed.

    Strategy

    The early safety car dilemma


    Everyone in the top ten qualified on the super-soft tyres, so it looks like we’re in for a fairly standard strategy race. The leaders should pull away and pit to make their mandatory switch to the other tyre compound – medium – once they’ve got enough of a gap to the cars behind them to make their stop and come out in clean air.

    But an early safety car period would mean the field spreading out more slowly, forcing the front runners to delay their pit stops.

    We saw this happen at Monaco but with one crucial difference. Fernando Alonso started at the back and got his mandatory pit stop out of the way during the safety car period. Once he was running in clean air the front runners had to pit early to keep him behind.

    What we haven’t seen yet – and what we could see tomorrow – is a situation where an early safety car period means the front runners have to choose between staying out on worn tyres, or ducking into the pits, accepting they will come out in traffic.

    OK, but what if there isn’t a safety car?

    If the race proceeds as normal from the start then it becomes a question of whether any of Red Bull’s rivals are faster than them in race trim. This was the case at Istanbul, and we all know what happened there.

    Ferrari couldn’t find the same kind of performance improvement as their rivals on the super-soft tyre in practice or qualifying but believe they’ll be strong on the medium tyre as Alonso admitted:

    "With the harder tyre, our car was more competitive as its behaviour inspired more confidence over the flying lap, but to have done Q3 with this compound would probably have compromised our race."

    Pit stops will be crucial as ever and, as noted here last week, this is an area where McLaren are weaker than their rivals at the moment. Lewis Hamilton has lost places in both the last two rounds during pit stops – he can’t afford that tomorrow if he’s going to take the fight to the Red Bulls.
    The best of the rest

    Renault appear to have the upper hand in their battle with Mercedes this weekend. Robert Kubica is poised to make trouble for the Ferraris at the start if either should slip up.

    Remember that drivers can’t maintain position if they go into one of Valencia’s many chicanes side-by-side with a rival, cut it, and come out ahead. Jenson Button had to forfeit a place to Webber after doing that last year.

    Williams are well placed to end their three-race streak out of the points. Rubens Barrichello needs to get off the line better than he has at the last two races, though.

    For the second race in a row Michael Schumacher starts in the bottom half of the field. From 15th getting into the points is going to be a challenge, even with the benefit of Mercedes’ fast pit stops.

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    Here's hoping for a Ferrari win

    FORZA FERRARI
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    I still think were fast enough to pull a do or die out into one of the corners on Lewis. Let's hope for a good start and Lewis getting abit angry behind the bulls if we can't get past in the first few corners !

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    If we can't make up places during the start then I am counting on our race pace and tyre management to enable us to overtake when the front runners pit
    #KeepFightingMichael | #CiaoJules

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    Tire management will be the key IMO, and we are good at it. If both drivers perform at the highest level and we don't get into trouble (backmarkers , Webber, Vettel, Hamilton) then at least one car should be on the podium. Of course if the safety car appears then who knows?

    Here's to a great race for us!

    Forza Ferrari!

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    Looking forward to a dramatic, exciting and enthralling race
    Forza Ferrari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Looking forward to a dramatic, exciting and enthralling race
    ..... at least England will get beaten today

    "Luna faccia schiaffo testa"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    ..... at least England will get beaten today
    Only in the F1 (not footy)!

    The future is RED

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    Hopefully we'll get a clean start and are able to keep up with the front runners.

    RedBull will be strong IMO, but we may have a chance of taking on Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    Hopefully we'll get a clean start and are able to keep up with the front runners.


    Today we´ll see our two boys on the podium! (hope so)

    Stehaufmännchen Felipe - Never give up!

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    Afternoon everyone. Here's to a good (and not boring) race!
    Forza Jules

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    Jake, Eddie & DC = cue joke: There was an Englishman, an Irishman & a Scotsman.....

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    Seen the porsche super cup and the cars on the outline ( starting places 2 - 4 - 6 - ... ) had really good grip it seems.

    So let's hope we can do damage limitation there and push the guys in front of us into making mistakes.
    Hero's come and go, but legends never die!

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    I'm counting on Red Bull's unique ability to completely screw things up.
    Forza Jules

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    Help

    No live F1 in the USA today. Can anyone PM a link please? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FernandoLauda View Post
    No live F1 in the USA today. Can anyone PM a link please? Thanks
    http://www.justin.tv/f1racegod

    amd BBC

    http://eplsite.com/stream5.html
    Last edited by Mitra; 27th June 2010 at 12:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    I'm counting on Red Bull's unique ability to completely screw things up.
    And Lewis to get a puncture
    Forza Ferrari

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    Fingers crossed for an exciting race
    Forza Ferrari!
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    "I am so proud about the people around who support me more than ever, more than 100 percent, much more than I expected" Go Felipe !

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    eddie and bernie holding hands

    awwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    And Lewis to get a puncture
    Here's hoping.
    Forza Jules

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    Here we go then!

    Forza Ferrari!

    The future is RED

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    hoping for a good race

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    I feel incredibly sick.

    Forza Alonso, Forza Massa!

    Forza Ferrari.

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    Sat there for bloomin' ages!

    Come on already!

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    Hamilton past Webber,

    Alonso too

    Alonso ALL over Hamilton

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    Good start
    Forza Ferrari!
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    Great start by our drivers.

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    Kubica past Button, Massa past Webber. Webber P8.

    Schumacher attacking a Toro Rosso - Buemi.

    Vettel stretching his legs.

    Ham radio : "Vettel hit me, vettel hit me"

    Hamilton hit Vettel, lmao.

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    sweet hami problem
    we're number one

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    Hamilton told his team on the radio his car was hit by Vettel
    Forza Ferrari!
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    Schumacher up to P11, Rosberg down to P14.

    Rosberg has been off apparently.

    Massa has closed on Alonso. Webber P9 now. Could be contact with Button?

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