Flavio Briatore visited Ferrari’s Maranello headquarters

**vcs316** · 23rd July 2010, 07:25

Originally Posted by Becool70

YES Stefano is the boss but $$$$ talks and if the major sponsor says something they listen my friend... Look what happend to Raikonnen/ Alonso affair...

There are literally thousands of posts on TSN regarding the Alonso/Kimi affair. I really don't want to comment on the same..

Fact is Santander has zero say in the management and running of the team.

**Suzie** · 23rd July 2010, 08:26

I'm really surprised that there's so many people gunning for Flavio to join Ferrari.

I wonder if they'd say the same thing if WE ended up being embroiled in a huge scandal a la CrashGate. Okay, nothing was ever proven 100% with regards to Flavio's involvement with that, but I still wouldn't want Ferrari being associated with someone who may have possibly instructed someone to crash in order to influence the outcome of a race. I accept that dirty tricks happen in F1 but you don't need to be a total hood to win. Jean Todt and Ross Brawn weren't.

**mad_ani** · 23rd July 2010, 08:53

Originally Posted by Suzie

I'm really surprised that there's so many people gunning for Flavio to join Ferrari.

I wonder if they'd say the same thing if WE ended up being embroiled in a huge scandal a la CrashGate. Okay, nothing was ever proven 100% with regards to Flavio's involvement with that, but I still wouldn't want Ferrari being associated with someone who may have possibly instructed someone to crash in order to influence the outcome of a race. I accept that dirty tricks happen in F1 but you don't need to be a total hood to win. Jean Todt and Ross Brawn weren't.

Totally agree to this...Absolutely hate him after the crash gate...coz it did affect Ferrari's fortunes in that race....I hope Ferrari keeps its distance..Anyways I guess we dont have to worry much as he banned from actively participating until 2012 end...

Alonso was so close to Flavio..he offered to be the driver of the bridal car during Flavio's wedding...so I am guessing, its more of Alonso who would want Flavio in, rather than Ferrari..

**Greig** · 23rd July 2010, 09:05

Crashgate would not have affected us had we not made a mistake really

How can you guess Alonso wants Flavio in? LOL

**mad_ani** · 23rd July 2010, 09:13

Originally Posted by Greig

Crashgate would not have affected us had we not made a mistake really

How can you guess Alonso wants Flavio in? LOL

Well we wouldn't have been under that pressure to get in and out of the pits as soon as they were opened...It was a chain of events which eventually cost us..

As I said, its only a guess that Alonso would want to be re associated or have some sort of an active working relationship..

**Tobes** · 23rd July 2010, 09:52

Originally Posted by Tifoso

I hope he's on the way. Don't care for his personal life much, but he can run a team.

Assume that's a typo Lou, there's an 'i' in ruin...

**Greig** · 23rd July 2010, 09:53

Originally Posted by mad_ani

Well we wouldn't have been under that pressure to get in and out of the pits as soon as they were opened...It was a chain of events which eventually cost us..

As I said, its only a guess that Alonso would want to be re associated or have some sort of an active working relationship..

It was a run of the mill pitstop, something they practice over and over, I guess Alonso is happy with the Ferrari management as it is

**Agron** · 23rd July 2010, 10:42

Originally Posted by Becool70

Another issue some folks dont consider is that Ferrari is not ran by Stefano but by who is paying the $$$$$ and in this instance its Santander and his CEO is a big fan of ALO/ FLAVIO combo so if he wants it will be!!

lol Ferrari is HUGE compared to the sponsorship money one single sponsor provides, in fact they could spend far more than they do now in the racing team, but personnel and testing limits force them to spend less. They could probably run their cars free of sponsors and still race without problems, that's the kind of money their road car division/merchandising makes for them. Of course, if sponsors provide hundreds of millions a year for a chance of exposure on their cars and merchandising, they are welcome...

**Katu** · 23rd July 2010, 10:53

i don't want that cheating who told a driver who he managed and who's teamboss he was to crash and risk not only his own life, but also specators and marshals lives. 2 parts of this crashgate have admited doing it, but seems like Flav is still in denial of what he did and thinks he is clean as a sheet of paper. excuse me, but this man screwed two young drivers careers and also put a questionmark above Fernando's reputation as a person who was involved with this. Flav is sick, he should have stayed banned

**slither** · 23rd July 2010, 16:04

Originally Posted by Katu

i don't want that cheating who told a driver who he managed and who's teamboss he was to crash and risk not only his own life, but also specators and marshals lives. 2 parts of this crashgate have admited doing it, but seems like Flav is still in denial of what he did and thinks he is clean as a sheet of paper. excuse me, but this man screwed two young drivers careers and also put a questionmark above Fernando's reputation as a person who was involved with this. Flav is sick, he should have stayed banned

I am frequently criticise Stefano this season, but it is too early to replace him.

**Ferrarichamp** · 23rd July 2010, 18:10

Originally Posted by Suzie

I'm really surprised that there's so many people gunning for Flavio to join Ferrari.

I wonder if they'd say the same thing if WE ended up being embroiled in a huge scandal a la CrashGate. Okay, nothing was ever proven 100% with regards to Flavio's involvement with that, but I still wouldn't want Ferrari being associated with someone who may have possibly instructed someone to crash in order to influence the outcome of a race. I accept that dirty tricks happen in F1 but you don't need to be a total hood to win. Jean Todt and Ross Brawn weren't.

and we can't prove 100% that Alonso wasn't involved in crashgate either, to say nothing of spygate.

**Suzie** · 23rd July 2010, 18:48

Originally Posted by Ferrarichamp

and we can't prove 100% that Alonso wasn't involved in crashgate either, to say nothing of spygate.

That's a brave thing to suggest on here these days with the Alonso fanatics

**Hermann** · 23rd July 2010, 22:21

Originally Posted by Suzie

That's a brave thing to suggest on here these days with the Alonso fanatics

Interesting remark. Do you know that even James Allen is scared of the Kimibots? He mentioned them in one of his blogs, writing that he doesn't want to say anything negative about Kimi because it would make Kimifans spam his blog. Haven't heard anything alike about Alonsofans so far.

I'm a fan of Fernando and i agree: we can't prove that, of course. We also can't prove he was. Its therefore redundant to discuss this, but if you like to discuss it, just go ahead. I'm sure no-one will be ripping your head off for trying