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    McLaren aims to become top F1 brand

    McLaren aims to become top F1 brand

    By Jonathan Noble Saturday, July 24th 2010, 09:55 GMT

    Jenson Button, McLaren, German GPMcLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh wants his outfit to build on the surge of support it has received from fans this year by setting its sights on usurping Ferrari as Formula 1's biggest brand.

    Whitmarsh reckons the performance of his Woking-based outfit this year, plus the popularity of its drivers Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button, has left his team capturing the fans' hearts more than he has ever known.

    And he thinks that the encouragement he took from seeing such support at Silverstone a fortnight ago has left him setting ambitious long-term goals for McLaren.

    "We had unprecedented support at the British Grand Prix - at levels I had never seen," said Whitmarsh, speaking in the McLaren Brand Centre in the Hockenheim paddock.

    "I drove in on Friday morning from the east side and, as I drove in, I got stopped because they were letting people cross the road. And I was cursing that I was being held up.

    "But then after a couple of minutes, I realised that 50 per cent of them were wearing either a McLaren cap or a McLaren shirt and I have never seen anything like that - not just with McLaren.

    "The other factor is that I sat there and for about five minutes of letting these people stream by I didn't see a Ferrari cap - which you always used to see even in Britain.

    "I have never experienced in 22 years of this team the feeling of support that we are enjoying. I have to say it's largely down to the drivers - from their performance in a car but also their performance out of a car.

    "They are both attractive personalities, honest human beings that I think people can relate to. And there is a tremendous feeling. We've had times when we've been performing well, winning races, easily winning championships but we have never felt the support that we've had this year, which is fantastic."

    Whitmarsh thinks McLaren can build on its current position, and even overtake Ferrari as the main 'brand' in the F1 pit lane – even though he reckons the two outfits are now closer than they have ever been.

    "We talk much more affectionately about Ferrari now than we ever have, and I do have a lot of respect for Ferrari as a brand, as a race team and the people that run it.

    "But nonetheless for years you saw Ferrari merchandise everywhere around the world, or everywhere around the world in Formula 1 venues, and you've got to say there's considerably less now than I think our own team."

    He added: "My opinion is that the biggest brand in Formula 1 today is Ferrari. And I acknowledge and accept it. McLaren I think is the second biggest brand in Formula 1 by a reasonable margin from whoever is the third.

    "It might not be even in my career but in 10 years', 20 years' time why can't we be the biggest brand? Twenty years ago that would have sounded ridiculous to say, but I don't think it sounds so ridiculous now. Hopefully in 10 years' time it will sound even more realistic and in 20 years' time we'll have done it.

    "But I say that with the utmost affection and respect for Ferrari. I hope incidentally that Ferrari give us a hard time and I'm sure they are saying 'we're the tops in terms of brand and we are going to stay there'."
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    Yeah, whatever Martin.
    You saw lots of McLaren caps in Silverstone because it was a British track, and you're a British team with 2 British drivers. That picture is not repeated worldwide.
    McLaren as the biggest brand? Try telling that to the tifosi at Monza
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    Everything looks grey in the UK, always. Not because of McLaren. I prefer Ferrari-red everywhere (and Alfa-rosso closely second).

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    They can hope all they want, it's not going to happen. Good luck to them living in their dream world!

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    LOL what a idiot, 50% McLaren fans and no Ferrari caps in 5 minutes = McLaren dominance hahahahaha

    I await Ferrari's response at Monza.....or maybe we are not that deluded.....
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    They only lack about 30 years of racing history but everyone can dream a little

    Without wishing to sound racist English fans are famous for jumping on band wagons during the good times when England teams do well, and deserting en mass during the bad. so its NEVER gonna happen :)
    Its all in the name - FERRARI

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    Save some dreams on yourself, McLaren. After what your so-called scandal in 2007 and early 2009, do you expect others to believe in your brand? besides you are not where you are now without hanging into other manufacturers; honda, mercedes, bla bla bla...

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    ...that's not to say that Ron Dennis isn't a charismatic figure.










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    Lately I was actually starting to develop a little bit of respect for Martin Whitmarsh, despite him being the McLaren boss. But that just all went down the drain. That's him showing the typical McLaren arrogance.

    What he doesn't get (and never will), is that Ferrari is not about the performance, or the drivers, or the championships. It's beyond all of that!

    It's all in the name: Ferrari!

    Keep dreaming Martin!

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    You can't funny mcs, as long as Ferrari exists :)

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    And then they wonder why people DO NOT like them?
    "If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve

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    They must think that with a pair of funny videos of their drivers being all happy and funny and buddy-like as per the scripts of their PR department they are going to change the image they have been building for a long time now. Just their behaviour on camera in 2007 wrecked any likeability they had for me, so let's not get started on remembering Alonso's words about them and the rumours that have been circulating abot that year and similar circumstances with other drivers ever since.

    And that friendly image is the only thing they could hope to best Ferrari in, because considering heritage, tradition, success, glamour, ... they can't hold a candle to the Scuderia.

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    This is what I think of when someone mentions McLaren:

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    He is purely speculating, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
    For sure McLaren is taking a much bigger share of the fans, but I do believe that RedBull is a strong contender for market share.

    Ferrari is unique and McLaren will never be that, but when talking Marked shares and fan base, it all depends on how the team is doing, and so far this season McLaren is way ahead of us. Lets hope this weekend will give us 2 spots on the podium.
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    Look I don't mind Whitmarsh far better improvement than Ronny and let's be honest at present there is a much healthier relationship between Mclaren and Ferrari. As for the brand issue I personally don't care if Ferrari is first in brand recognition or last to me Ferrari will always be Ferrari. Enzo Ferrari created a company not for brand recognition but created a company for racing.

    I know here in North America unless you follow F1, Mclaren is not a recognizable name, while Ferrari either one is a F1 follower or not the vast majority of people know what you are talking about.

    As for judging popularity by Silverstone it would have been interesting to see if a popular English driver had been behind the wheel of a Ferrari.

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    To be honest I seen plenty of support for Ferrari at Silverstone anyway, Ferrari have a big fanbase in the UK, while McLaren basically has Lewis only fans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    This is what I think of when someone mentions McLaren:
    Here's what I think of...


    "Luna faccia schiaffo testa"

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    SATAN!!!
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    Last edited by Tommy_F; 24th July 2010 at 19:36.

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    ^ says it all Tommy, thanks for that post.

    Mclaren so so need wake up. Ferrari is, FERRARI. People love the passion, history and glamour that the Prancing Horse represents. What have Mclaren got?????
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    ROFL
    Nice find there by Tommy

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    Michael Schumacher - the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    This is what I think of when someone mentions McLaren:

    Ha! I get it now. I kept waiting for the photo to load.


    Don't play dumb with me. I'm better at it than you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy_F View Post






    Good stuff, Tommy! McLaren - OWNED!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    This is what I think of when someone mentions McLaren:

    When someone mentions McLaren to me I just think of Ron slimy Dennis and all the lies he told!!the 2007 spying scandal!!! let us not forget that Martin Whitmarsh was in on that too!!!! and there's Lewis Hamilton's lies last year. . . . . . McLaren. . . I just can't stand them!!!! which is a shame because apparently Bruce McLaren was a gentleman!!

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    Macca need to invent some extra history too (not beyond them i'm sure) if they wanna stand a chance

    OK, so their distinctive logo is timeless but they have a way to go in every other aspect

    "Luna faccia schiaffo testa"

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    the stupidest thing of all is the fact that Bruce Mclaren - Founder, of Mclaren was infact a KIWI.. so how does Crapmarsh claim Mclaren to be a "British" team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    ^ says it all Tommy, thanks for that post.

    Mclaren so so need wake up. Ferrari is, FERRARI. People love the passion, history and glamour that the Prancing Horse represents. What have Mclaren got?????
    Hey, hey... They have this. I present to you super awesome logo!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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    A bloated flipped Nike logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    the stupidest thing of all is the fact that Bruce Mclaren - Founder, of Mclaren was infact a KIWI.. so how does Crapmarsh claim Mclaren to be a "British" team?
    Precisely!

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