German GP Race Thread

**Greig** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

Come on Felipe!!!

**Ste** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

Come on Felipe baby, hold on. Please.

6 laps left, you can do it.

**maho** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

Jeez Vettel took out .723 out of Massa on lap 58

**vagos** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

vettel is faster ...... maybe massa has a problem i dont know i hope he stays 2nd!

**Lesky** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

Now, lets say "Vettel is faster" - and with an opponent that does not mean giving up a position - rather TAKING OUT the opponent!

Certain codes that Ferrari have agreed on with the drivers before the race can mean gold in the end!

**arunkshrestha** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

Funny thing is Alonso was complaining about races being manipulated a couple of weeks back! I have no problems with team orders. F1 is a team sport after all. But I didn't see the need for team orders in this race. It was like Alonso was getting pressure from Vettel.

**Tifosi** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

Originally Posted by Greig

Not really, not much different to Massa moving for Kimi or Kimi for Massa.

Whatever you want to think. Its just over half way through the season, its the anniversary of his accident, and we just sold out his drive to win for the rest of the season.

It's miles different and we all know it.

**vagos** · 25th July 2010, 14:23

vettel FL DAMN IT!

**diablos123** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

that was planned from the begining.

**xpman** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

Originally Posted by Ste
Stop moaning guys. Wouldn't you rather have the WDC and potentially the WCC than just the WCC?

Massa will have known before hand what the circumstances are, as would Alonso if the positions were reversed. It's not nice, but Massa doesn't have a shot at the WDC anymore, Alonso does.

Makes No diff mate Our Beloved "Luka" keeps Banging on about we Ferrari do things in the SPIRIT of the Rules etcb etc etc etc etc Well mate where was the Spirit ???????????????????

**criderman** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

I just threw up in my mouth a little...disturbing...

**Ste** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

I don't think the switch affected Massa. He lost about 2s in traffic and is only lapping a tenth or so slower than Alonso.

Infact, he was quicker than him on the last lap, quicker than Vettel as well.

**Mitra** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

come on Felipe keep Vettel behind you

**GamD** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

Originally Posted by Greig

How about Massa moving for Kimi at Brazil? disgusted? Kimi moving for Massa at China? disgusted?

Greg Kimi is in rally now, he is KO, out, gone, passed, old news.....

Massa was asked to let Alonso pass, which in it self I can see why, But Ferrari should not harp on about how no team orders exists. If what they done was fair they would of just come out and said "let Alonso pass your to slow to win" .

**ferrari4life** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

no massa no...come on boy..

**Tech_Skill** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

Two things.

1. What happened today was 100% the correct decision, I support Ferrari through and through, Ferrari's only chance of winning the championship is Fernando Alonso, we have to give him every chance possible to win the championship.

2. Im disgusted by the way Ferrari handled the situation by making it so obvious team orders were given, I wouldn't be surprised if an investigation takes place after the race, Rob Smedley turning around and saying 'sorry' to massa over the radio was just ridiculous, save that for after the race, dont do it over the radio so the FIA can hear, they will do anything to penalise ferrari.

**Nick Singer** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

Can't believe what some of you are saying. What a disgrace. I know about points, championship positions etc but Ferrari should be ashamed. I know as a Ferrari fan of 30 years standing I am...

I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some sort of 'protest', an inquiry and the team get nailed.

Pfft!

**Greig** · 25th July 2010, 14:24

Originally Posted by Tifosi

Whatever you want to think. Its just over half way through the season, its the anniversary of his accident, and we just sold out his drive to win for the rest of the season.

It's miles different and we all know it.

His accident really has no bearing on it though does it, from how it looks now then it was the right decision

**vagos** · 25th July 2010, 14:25

ALONSO fl NOW!

**Shahid** · 25th July 2010, 14:25

Was just thinking about the earlier radio messages - does anyone think Massa was told if you can keep a certain gap to Fernando (and thereby prove you are faster) we won't ask you to move. Thinking back to the message where Rob was saying something about the gap being 3 seconds we need to keep it going.

**dfunk257** · 25th July 2010, 14:25

Vettel us catching Massa cause he is quicker, not cause his spirits are down u bunch of useless fools!

**vagos** · 25th July 2010, 14:25

vettel tyres are not in good condition i think he is pushing a lot!

**racingbradley** · 25th July 2010, 14:25

Originally Posted by Suzie

I couldn't give 2 hoots right now to be honest.

I feel so sorry for Rob. He clearly didn't want to give that message----hope Felipe fully understands. I think he has lost the fire in his belly.

Think I know how he feels-----it would have been so good for his confidence. I hope Rob can sort that out in time for Hungary !!!!!!!

**Greig** · 25th July 2010, 14:26

Originally Posted by GamD

Greg Kimi is in rally now, he is KO, out, gone, passed, old news.....

Massa was asked to let Alonso pass, which in it self I can see why, But Ferrari should not harp on about how no team orders exists. If what they done was fair they would of just come out and said "let Alonso pass your to slow to win" .

Old news? LOL its relevant to the team using orders for title challengers no? don't be silly to try and deny its happened in the past

**Greig** · 25th July 2010, 14:26

Originally Posted by Shahid

Was just thinking about the earlier radio messages - does anyone think Massa was told if you can keep a certain gap to Fernando (and thereby prove you are faster) we won't ask you to move. Thinking back to the message where Rob was saying something about the gap being 3 seconds we need to keep it going.

Rob said something about keeping a gap is everything, to keep pushing.

**Wiz** · 25th July 2010, 14:26

Originally Posted by OldskoolF1

I wouldn't be surprised if Massa loses out to Vettel now, that probably totally demoralised him and I don't blame him. Don't know why I bothered watching the race

My feelings exactly. This is a disgrace. It could have been his comeback, one year after his accident (to the day). There are more important things than 7 points for Alonso, whether or not Massa has a chance of winning the championship, and if there's one team in the world who know this, it should be Ferrari. This is just hugely disappointing.

**Tifosi** · 25th July 2010, 14:26

Originally Posted by Greig

His accident really has no bearing on it though does it, from how it looks now then it was the right decision

No it doesnt.

best not even try to pass Alonso from now on I guess. no point. Just like Austria, its sickening cos its way too soon. Crap!

**vagos** · 25th July 2010, 14:27

hopefully massa will stay 2nd i think vettel has to take care his tyres!

**Ste** · 25th July 2010, 14:27

Originally Posted by Shahid

Was just thinking about the earlier radio messages - does anyone think Massa was told if you can keep a certain gap to Fernando (and thereby prove you are faster) we won't ask you to move. Thinking back to the message where Rob was saying something about the gap being 3 seconds we need to keep it going.

That sounds pretty logical to me, yes.