Hungarian GP - Race Thread

[Julie B]

Here's to another fantastic race for both of our guys

[Greig]

Hope its a decent race, but I doubt it we need a really good start and then some team orders

[m schumy]

I think a lot will depend on the start and maybe the pitstop strategies- otherwise I`m afraid it will be a Red Bull 1-2

[FFFerrari]

Naptime race of the season without rain

[Stormsearcher]

If we dont make a good start.. i vote for rain!!!

[scuderia_nano]

Alonso might get a P2 Maximum by the end of the race if He can Follow Vettel and if Mark has a sluggish start. Mostly, Vettel wont repeat his mistakes so early on.

[Lithium]

Alonso might get a P2 Maximum by the end of the race if He can Follow Vettel and if Mark has a sluggish start. Mostly, Vettel wont repeat his mistakes so early on.

Yea, if Alonso makes a decent start, he has a chance to take Webbo at the start. Vettel, I'm afraid, will disappear into the distance with that car. I hope though that Vettel will make another bad start, but I doubt it'll happen... And then you never know... RBR might screw up at the pitstops, they've done it before. Plus those Bulls are fast, but not the most reliable... so you never know

[Stormsearcher]

Alonso might get a P2 Maximum by the end of the race if He can Follow Vettel and if Mark has a sluggish start. Mostly, Vettel wont repeat his mistakes so early on.

i agree.. vettel will make sure he doesnt repeat it. Mark is our best hope.

[Jack]

Alonso might get a P2 Maximum by the end of the race if He can Follow Vettel and if Mark has a sluggish start. Mostly, Vettel wont repeat his mistakes so early on.

I'd bet for a P2 too. Having the clean side is very important.

[scuderia_nano]

By the ways, I read somewhere that if the Flexi wings Flex too much in RBR too regularly, It will hamper their reliability. And so, Its generally a mechanism affective only for Qual. A reason why they dont have the race pace everytime!

Anyone aware of this?

[vecchiasignora]

the start will decide everything..

Hopefully Alonso cuts down at least 5 more points on championship leader in this race as well.

[animagus]

Hope both the Ferrari's make a good start and the luck be with them. Good luck Ferrari.

[vcs316]

I think P3 is our best chance.. Even if we get P2 or P1 at the start, the red bulls will overtake us during the pit stops...

[Stormsearcher]

By the ways, I read somewhere that if the Flexi wings Flex too much in RBR too regularly, It will hamper their reliability. And so, Its generally a mechanism affective only for Qual. A reason why they dont have the race pace everytime!

Anyone aware of this?

source?

[Tifosi]

Vettel will do his usual MS style veer across the track off the start (regardless of what he says) to cover Webber, and Alonso and Massa can cause some hassle hopefully.

[vecchiasignora]

what worries me hamilton's start.. Massa is on the dirty side..


but should Massa end 5th in the start, and hamilton 4th...Massa should overtake hamilton by the pits.. Hamilton always pits early..doesnt know how to manage his tyres

[vecchiasignora]

I think P3 is our best chance.. Even if we get P2 or P1 at the start, the red bulls will overtake us during the pit stops...

Thats where strategy plays the role. Ferrari should pit same time as Red Bulls.

[Stormsearcher]

Thats where strategy plays the role. Ferrari should pit same time as Red Bulls.

Or exactly one lap after. Their prime tyres will take a lap atleast to get to temp and we can make up some ground in that time if we push really hard. All this assuming we are within range of the the 2 bulls, who are very likely to fly off if they get a good start.

[Greig]

We should order Massa to jump start, get the lead, and block the Red Bulls, refuse to take the penalty, ignore the black flags, and get Alonso to jump them, probably just get a reprimand anyway

[Hermann]

Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports that the designs have been cleared as legal before the Hungarian race, but that Charlie Whiting may be open to talks about devising new flexibility tests.

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=380377


Of course- Whiting.

[Tommy_F]

The report said the tests carried out at the Hungaroring involved placing 50kg weights on the endplates, with no more than 10mm of downwards flexibility allowed.

So will the new tests involve Norbert Haug being placed on the endplates?

[Alessandra]

I'd like to congratulate Stefano on his interview with JAke Humphries on the BBC at quali. There was no backing down and absolute conviction that the team's behaviour in Hockenheim was correct. (Even M. Brundle in the SUnday Times manages to say that it wasn't even Fernando's fault - what's going on?).
Our two drivers have behaved with dignity in the teeth of extreme pressure from the media and those who would like to use the events at Hockenhein purely to destabilise the team.
Nick Fry looking on during his first Ferrari GP was somehow encouraging too.
It begins to look as though, not for the first time this season, the Ferarari team will have , deliberately or otherwise, raised necessary issues re. F1 rules ( quali fuel, safety cars & overtaking thereof) . The hypocracy of other teams is being seen as just that.
I think this points to an intelligent, challenging ( in all senses) team. The old order has profoundly changed and we should be looking to the future with confidence.
So........good luck to all this afternoon, especially the drivers, we're with you........

[Greig]

So will the new tests involve Norbert Haug being placed on the endplates?

[Tifosi]

We should order Massa to jump start, get the lead, and block the Red Bulls, refuse to take the penalty, ignore the black flags, and get Alonso to jump them, probably just get a reprimand anyway

We'd still get 3 Christian Horner interviews at the end though

[Stormsearcher]

So will the new tests involve Norbert Haug being placed on the endplates?

[SilverSpeed]

P3 seems the best we can do here, but maybe with a superb start and mecanical problems with 1 or 2 red bulls... who knows what's possible :)

[Hornet]

Keeping my expectations in check today. A podium should be easy though.

So will the new tests involve Norbert Haug being placed on the endplates?

That would permanently deform the wings each time they test it

[Ste]

We should order Massa to jump start, get the lead, and block the Red Bulls, refuse to take the penalty, ignore the black flags, and get Alonso to jump them, probably just get a reprimand anyway

[Hermann]

Listening to Lauda can be dangerous for your mental health.

First, he kept ranting about team orders. Then they managed to get Bernie for an interview and Lauda asked him what he thinks about it. Bernie said that inside the teams, they should be allowed to do what they want; for him, 'team order' means two teams in a conspiracy against a third (?????) (Laudas face was priceless) and that this of course should not be allowed!

After that interview, Lauda said that of course when one of the drivers is mathematically out of the title race, the other driver should get priority. Well at least he made clear what he thinks about it. For now.

[Katu]

two teams against third...interesting suggestion. hmm i wonder who would team up?