Mosley: Ferrari must be punished

[Axelsson]

Former FIA president Max Mosley believes that Formula 1's ban on team orders must remain, and that Ferrari should lose points for imposing them at the German Grand Prix.

With Ferrari due to face a hearing of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council next month to answer charges that it breached the sport's regulations by ordering Felipe Massa to move aside for Fernando Alonso, Mosley believes action has to be taken.

Speaking to German newspaper Welt Am Sonntag, Mosley said that for the sake of fans it was important the team orders ban remained.

"Most teams are in favour of the ban being lifted," said Mosley. "But if one wants to fulfil the needs of the audience, then one must maintain the ban. In the event that it is brought into play by a team, we have to impose a severe punishment."

Regarding the Ferrari matter, Mosley believes that further action should be taken against Ferrari beyond the $100,000 (USD) fine imposed at Hockenheim.

"Both cars and both drivers should lose the points they achieved in the German Grand Prix," he said. "I will not make any recommendation, but on the facts at the moment there should have been some sporting sanction and not only a fine."

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[Tifosi]

stick him in a room with Niki Lauda. shut the door. lock it. forget where the room is....

[Ferrari_Fanatic]

i think they should give them another $100,000 fine and leave it at that but warn if they do it again then they will be chucked out of the constuctors championship, getting rid of the drivers points is pointless as they didnt do anything wrong!

they should lift this stupid rule maybe modify it so you can use team orders within team to benifit in the drivers championship it's just too silly ither get rid of the rule or dont have 2 cars per team!

[Effone]

i think they should give them another $100,000 fine and leave it at that but warn if they do it again then they will be chucked out of the constuctors championship, getting rid of the drivers points is pointless as they didnt do anything wrong!

they should lift this stupid rule maybe modify it so you can use team orders within team to benifit in the drivers championship it's just too silly ither get rid of the rule or dont have 2 cars per team!

Fining them $100,000 is like fining me 2p - pointless.

Either say its ok and leave it or dock them points. there is no sense in a fine.

I'm sure it'll be ok.

[Brakefade]

Why didn't any of these people say anything about banning Hamilton and Vettel when those two idiots endangered the entire pit lane in China? How many "reprimands" has Hamilton been given? If the FIA want to be fair a reprimand is all they should give us. It's not like we put people's lives in danger, and they also owe us from Valencia. Also, why didn't we hear anything from these same people over Valencia. At least we didn't hear anything about the FIA's mistake, instead all we heard was negative comments over Ferrari's anger. Well what you expect geniuses? I guess as long as Hamilton benefits it doesn't matter.

[Ste]

Fining them $100,000 is like fining me 2p - pointless.

That's just the sort of thing I'd say!

[REDARMYSOJA]

Maybe Ferrari will be punished with a spanking and Max will offer to take the punishment for them.

[Alessandra]

Both cars and both drivers should lose the points they achieved in the German Grand Prix," he said. "I will not make any recommendation, but on the facts at the moment there should have been some sporting sanction and not only a fine."

Do you know, I'd forgotten all about him!
What a vindictive old man he is.

[steelstallions]

Mosley: Ferrari must be punished

Which Ferrari is he referring to, the team we love or some hooker who took the name to attract more paying sado's like him?

[Greig]

I await Ferrari's response via The Horse Whisperer

[Ant Raikkonen]

I await Ferrari's response via The Horse Whisperer

Oh, hell yeah!!

[RockyRaccoon]

The 'new' FIA seems keen to distance itself from the Mosely era so maybe having Mosely spouting off in the media will work in Ferrari's favour!?

[Rob]

he just want to make head lines, sad man. Its like remember me? no not really max. How come you didnt say anything about Schueys driving in canada or Hungary? why didnt you say you 2ps worth after valencia when hamilton overtook SC?? Oh they not Ferrari and nows will not get many people (british press&RBR&Mclaren fans) to back him on any comments about those drivers. Just go back to Soho or where ever you have been and stay there. Bye Max.

[Liscia]

Who cares what Mosley says? Why even ask him? He's out of it and good riddance.
As to Niki Lauda who used to be one of my childhood heroes-he's goneand so is his friendship
and loyalty to LCdM and Ferrari (who hired him not once but twice). We're now hearing from his
evil twin Niki Loudamouth who blows any way the wind does.....................

[Tony]

How this man has any credibility after what he did is beyond me....

[Tifoso]

I think they deserve a good whipping. Problem is, I'm not sure if Max would consider that punishment or pleasure

[Tony]

[sav_pap]

What an idiot !!!!

[Fiondella]

Massage Palours up and down the country should ban this man on the basis that he exercised team orders whilst frolicking

[Italian Spirit]

Mosley opinion is worth as much as second hand wc paper. What worries me is the little French.
The divorce with Ferrari went sour (that's a long, complex story) and it's a known fact that Todt is incredibly rancorous.
Hold on Luca!

[TheProdigalSon]

Ferrari: Mosely must be spanked!

By horse wisperer

[Greig]

Mosley opinion is worth as much as second hand wc paper. What worries me is the little French.
The divorce with Ferrari went sour (that's a long, complex story) and it's a known fact that Todt is incredibly rancorous.
Hold on Luca!

Todt has said he is not taking active role in F1 matters though and I do not agree it went sour with Ferrari either

[RedRebel40]

Ferrari thinks about Ferrari and the FIA thinks about the Formula1. let's see what the hearing will say.

[Greig]

Ferrari thinks about Ferrari and the FIA thinks about the Formula1. let's see what the hearing will say.

And Ferrari is Formula 1 As the ringmaster knows, we shall see, sounds like you are hoping for some punishment though?

[ferrari4life]

I really dont think JT should involve himself in this. I think he was a big supporter of team orders all his years at Ferrari and should not make himself seem shallow like these other fools who are two faced lying dogs like Martin Withmarsh and Mosley and Lauda.
If he wants to do anything he should ban the stupid rule..

if they take ferrari points away then I think ferrari should sue and treathen to quit. I for one will refuse to watch another race this year.

[WRX202]

Bah! It's just the usual stupid politics. Mosley putting pressure on the FIA, Ferrari threatening to sue the FIA and so on... Seriously I thought by now the name "Mosley" would appear as "******" on this forum as anything that involves him should be censored
The FIA has to prove that they instructed Massa to move for Alonso. It was obvious to our eyes but to the courts it means nothing. It's like recording a Mafia cartel phone call saying "Hey Tony, we have da roba comin on a Friday" it could mean they have a tonne of cocaine on it's way or it could mean they have a pizza delivery. No one can charge a team on a radio conversation and unless Massa confesses that he was instructed to slow down then as it stands what he did was out of his own will cause Alonso was faster.
"Alonso is faster" does not mean "move over" to my ears, so what if he said "Vettel was faster" and the RedBull overtook him would that mean he was instructed to move over for him? Okay, we all know what it meant in reality but the point is proving it. Points in F1 = Millions of €uro hence the threat from Ferrari to sue if they're docked away and even though I am against what they did I am all out against any fool trying to force the FIA to damage Ferrari.

Peace!

[RedRebel40]

And Ferrari is Formula 1 As the ringmaster knows, we shall see, sounds like you are hoping for some punishment though?

no not for a punishment, but I don't like these kind of position switches between drivers. the faster driver must overtake the slower one on a racey way.

[Agron]

no not for a punishment, but I don't like these kind of position switches between drivers. the faster driver must overtake the slower one on a racey way.

Are you sure you are a MS fan?

[RedRebel40]

I am a MS fan, but I hated those schumacher/barichello overtakings. It's not about a driver or a team, but these kind of actions are not good for the sport :)

[Greig]

Why are they not good for the sport when they have been part and parcel of the sport from day 1?