We all make mistakes
i think doing better next year is a MUST for both drivers. everybody will have the same tires next year as this year.Originally Posted by Ferrari_Fanatic
its the same for everybody so it would be a shame not to be able to adapt and extract the most out of the tires coz u cant
adjust ur style of driving.
We all make mistakes
what im really getting to is that what we need is a reaally fast car, so much so that even if it doesnt suit much to one of our drivers' style, chances are we'd still be ahead of the pack. if you're saying the RB fits more to vettel's driving style, then what can i say about webber? he's got a really fast car there that might not be favoring his style too.
Forza Felipe Massa
We can still snatch the championship this year by our two drivers but I don't think our management wants that.
"My great passion was never to race cars, but to witness their births." -Enzo
We all make mistakes
we started the year with a "good car out of the box" and now here we are. this year's campaign pinned to the result in monza.
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Well all F1 teams have 2 drivers, and Felipe has struggled with hard compound..Thats where the challenge lies for F1 drivers to adapt. BS brings in a gap between its compounds making it challenging for drivers to set up their cars to work with both over a weekend. I dont see many other drivers complaining with this choice..F1 cars are not designed to suit only 1 driver
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What???Are you serious??Why would a team not want to win championships....
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See what happened in Germany.
"My great passion was never to race cars, but to witness their births." -Enzo
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no reason to get in habit of writing off seasons. Redbull fought till the last race in 09 and came in this year ahead of everyone. Mclaren started 09 crap but kept developing the car till the Abu Dhabi. I say we continue developing the car till the end of the year. It wasn't the car that let us down this year, it was pure bad luck and maybe some bad decision making. Plenty of races for other drivers to make mistakes.
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Ferrari had a 1-2...what more could a Ferrari fan ask for??
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Yes but possibly our car is too gentle for tires. It should take grip from the tires much much more aggressively.Well all F1 teams have 2 drivers, and Felipe has struggled with hard compound..Thats where the challenge lies for F1 drivers to adapt. BS brings in a gap between its compounds making it challenging for drivers to set up their cars to work with both over a weekend. I dont see many other drivers complaining with this choice..F1 cars are not designed to suit only 1 driver
"My great passion was never to race cars, but to witness their births." -Enzo
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The real result how it should have gone.Ferrari had a 1-2...what more could a Ferrari fan ask for??
"My great passion was never to race cars, but to witness their births." -Enzo
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Thats done with countless simulations and winter testing, and Friday saturday practice during race weekend. :)
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Well team orders are another issue. yes it did overshadow a strong performance from Ferrari. I would have liked to see Alonso win in his own right. Stewards have investigated and FIA will deal with it
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Maybe problem was that Alonso's skill didn't have the way to own the race ;) Well Felipe would have owned the race. One year from his fatal accident.
Ferrari should have have allowed them to fight like Red Bull does with their drivers. Even if collisions happens. It's what we want to see. Not team rules which only who what kind driver Alonso is.
edit: Time to go sleep now ->
Last edited by Angelus; 8th September 2010 at 03:34.
"My great passion was never to race cars, but to witness their births." -Enzo
Avanti Fer, Avanti !
I know developments on F60 were stopped to concentrate on F10 & things have not worked out as expected. It is also a fact that we dont develop our car as fast as McCheats. Sure we need some reshuffle in technical team. I was never a fan of SD, but Cmmon guys dont write off our team. Dont forget just two seasons ago we had a potentially championship winning machine.
Apart from 2005 & 2009, we have had good cars in this decade. Form is temporary, class is permanent, & Ferrari is a class team. And its a ridiculous justification to say if you fight till the end of a season, you wont get winning car following season. Ferrari had winning cars for 5 consecutive championships. 2010 was full of bad luck & I just hope 2011 car would get us both championships. Dont forget KERS will be back which will benefit us
We all make mistakes
we benefited from kers because not everybody had it last time around. i still believe its in the development race ( whole package ) where we are out performed. like i said, we started the year with supposedly a "good car out of the box", and see where we are this season. ferrari focused its attention to the F10 early last year, and it showed a lot of promise during pre-season testing. its not the case now.
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bottom line is we need more brains in R&D, effort alone is not enough without talent.
We all make mistakes
maybe just not talented enough
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I think we'll do much better at Monza. As you'd expect, over the course of a year there are ups and downs, but, basically 2010 has been a much better year than 2009. Over the year so far the F10 is way ahead of F60 for 2009.
We started 2010 with a car that was competitive, not the fastest, for most of the year that has belonged to the RB6. With the exception of Turkey and Spa the F10 has been improved, and, IMO our team has performed pretty well most of the time.
Some might dispute team calls like Silverstone and Alonso's pass on Kubica. But, this is just another case of terrible officiating. Exactly the same thing happened a few races later in Hungary and the driver was not penalized. Of course I'm referring to the Shumi/Twubens incident. Twubens put all 4 wheels off the track, then continued with his pass. It wasn't even questioned, yet exactly the same rules were in play for both incidents. So, the officials interpret one way at one track then the opposite at another track.
For me, "hope springs eternal" so, I'm counting on a good result at Monza, no more bad calls from the officials and hearings and, perhaps even a DNF for Lewser
We all make mistakes
that indeed is a good result for monzaperhaps even a DNF for Lewser
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We watch f1 not demolition derby...accidents do happen, but good racing drivers carry out clean manouvers ...Felipe as faster on soft but was relatively slower on teh hard...he did not accumulate a massive gap over others..Each team has its policy on handling internal affairs, but what Ferrari did on track attracted attention of the stewards.
Vroom, VROOOOOOM!!!!
If we get a bad result, then I'm cheering Webber on.
Avanti Fer, Avanti !
So am i
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Thats a no brainer. I think you will be hard pressed to find a single ferrari fan supporting lewser for the title.
In fact, if we cant win it, i would support ANYONE other than the lewser. This is webbers last chance, so yeah sure... i will support him.
Silently, like a shadow
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Not giving up yet, Webber can come 3rd behind our boys
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.."This time next year, we ll be millionares"..
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition
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lol.. well said. I will drink to that. cheers!!!Not giving up yet, Webber can come 3rd behind our boys
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sad thing, last year we also quit the season earlier to concentrate on the new season but it didn't help :(
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To be fair RR40, in 2009 the F60 was a country mile behind the 3 front runners. This year we have been competing for podiums in all but 2 races really. Although it's not where we want to be, it's a big improvement on last year.
We all make mistakes
yeah... im joining the webber bandwagon in case we dont make it. getting more of this is really a big bonus:
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