The summer break is over. Why do we have threads like this still?
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The summer break is over. Why do we have threads like this still?
"Luna faccia schiaffo testa"
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If Ferrari has decided to do a Schumacher (ie. #1 status mode from now on) , I can imagine that Massa won't be happy and it 'll be soon enough he'll be looking for alternatives.
I also feel that Ferrari is examining this option (I am not saying that they definitely have made up their mind); but taking under consideration the fact they want the rule for banning team orders revoked, (in essence team orders freed), that could only mean they want to be able to dictate who comes first, who comes second.
Now , one could say that doesn't mean they have decided Alonso is #1, but then again I think that it's going to be like with Schumi's years. The first few races will dictate the status.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
Salut Gilles
If Massa is leaving over Alonso being no1, then what makes anyone think Kubica would be willing to be no2 to Alonso?
Forza Ferrari
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Assuming I would play with dolls. When I was a kid I was playing with matchbox cars.Originally Posted by Greig
I hope the stories are a complete load of rubbish.
Forever Ferrari
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I honestly think at the beginning of the season, both Nando and Felipe were on even terms. As long as they didnt take each other out, they would race. But it became evident that Felipe wasnt coming to grips with either the car of the tyre and this meant that the team had to put all their eggs in one basket.
I dont see why it should be any different next season. They will both start again on equal terms.
But then, why is massa looking so off now?
Silently, like a shadow
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Long time ago, Alonso said he didn't like Kubica will be his mate, because he is his friend ...
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Who said I believe that he 'll be his replacement?
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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Business and friendship do not match.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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-Lou(is)
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Totus Tuus
Salut Gilles
It was a general wondering, not aimed at any one person
Forza Ferrari
Salut Gilles
And that would be insulting how? I never assumed anything of the sort, just it seems some want 2 people to get on just cause they work at Ferrari....
Forza Ferrari
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Perhaps there comes a time when the team changes their decisions. Perhaps they see that McLaren and Redbull in essence are doing Team Orders while they don't which means that by not putting their eggs in one basket, they'll not play in even ground.
There comes a time you need to be realist and do what it takes to win. And that goes for Ferrari too. And Ferrari IS a winning team. We don't follow, we LEAD.
I do feel that they probably have decided to go back to the #1 status days, that'd probably explain what you're asking bout.
Then again, it's only my gutt feeling.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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Oh ok.
"If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari" - Gilles Villeneuve
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I have no problem with team orders at all. The de facto #1 (not sure there should be a fixed one, unless the performance gap is large, obviously) should be chosen by the end of July, at the latest (unless the drivers are close, then maybe default to the previous year's best performer.
It is all about the team. Period.
-Lou(is)
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It felt quite sexist.
Forever Ferrari
Salut Gilles
Any more so than you using women's intuition as reason to say they don't get on?
I think not
And is it not sexist of you to assume only girls can play with dolls
Forza Ferrari
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Having pre-conceptions of me as a woman leading to assuming I would play with dolls can come across to the person targeted as, appear sexist. If it wasn't intended that way fine. It just felt that way.Any more so than you using women's intuition as reason to say they don't get on?
I think not
Anyway back to the one thing we have in common, a passion for the best for Ferrari.
Forever Ferrari
Salut Gilles
Don't you have some ironing to do?Having pre-conceptions of me as a woman leading to assuming I would play with dolls can come across to the person targeted as, appear sexist. If it wasn't intended that way fine. It just felt that way.
Anyway back to the one thing we have in common, a passion for the best for Ferrari.
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We'll see. Felipe just seems to look miserable most of the time for some reason at the moment.......not too sure why.
Realistically Ferrari have got to bet on Fernando for this year.......what happens next year is anyone's guess........ and after comfirming Felipe for the next two years i really cannot see Ferrari changing that right now - they have no reason to.
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What does the word ironing mean? Is it F1 related, some part of the car that I've never heard of before?Don't you have some ironing to do?
Forever Ferrari
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Hmm.. interesting. Is possible. Might explain Felipes mood/looks.
However, that would not explain the swap. Cause i dont think Kubica will want to be no.2 anymore than Massa does.
Silently, like a shadow
make it happen
i'm not sure if i would like Fernando-Kubica combo more than i like Fernando-Massa one...
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How long is this Kubica/Massa crap going to go on for?
Forza Jules
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This has about as much chance of happening as me stopping being sarcastic.
In all seriousness though, I hope Felipe doesn't go anywhere. They make a good team and they seemed to be getting on really well at Monza. As long as Felipe can sort out his issues with the tyres, we can have a great driver combination.
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Totally agree with you Ste- can't see why Ferrari have any reason to rock the boat just now.This has about as much chance of happening as me stopping being sarcastic.
In all seriousness though, I hope Felipe doesn't go anywhere. They make a good team and they seemed to be getting on really well at Monza. As long as Felipe can sort out his issues with the tyres, we can have a great driver combination.
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Doesn't really matter whether they get along or not personally, as long as they don't let it affect their work. Personally I do think that they're not exactly bosom buddies, but Felipe and Kimi weren't BFF either. It'd be nice to have a line-up like Michael and Felipe again whereby our drivers are really good mates but realistically that's not going to happen.
Forza Jules
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Frankly dont think Massa is pulling his weight very much with the team. I know there is all the drama about Germany but honestly he has not shown that he was capable of competing with the top team/drivers unless the car was just perfect.
I like him a lot but if we get a stronger driver in his place then Froza Ferrari all the way.
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By my calculations, this is now the 2,627th 'Massa to be replaced' rumour since 2006.
Forza Jules
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F1 can live without Ferrari.
"If there is no Ferrari or no other car manufacturers, everyone will forget about them very quickly," said the 24-year-old Krakow native".
Disgusting!
Alonso and Kubica at Ferrari.
Disgusting!
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They were best of buddies because Massa was from the first race of the season the nr2 driver, Michael didn't consider Massa a threat at all. We saw in Canada? how Michael treats his best buddies when he gets competitive. If both had been fighting for the championship in the same team, and knowing how Michael put all the team behind him, the Ferrari garage would have been a very hostile environment for Massa.
And indeed Massa and Kimi weren't hostile with each other... because their relationship was non-existant, it was Massa himself who said he spoke more with Alonso in 2 days than with Kimi in two years. I don't think that working with a person for three years, in a job where at the very least you have to work together sharing info on setups, strategies and the like not talking with each other is good at all, rather a symptom of something not working.
I think Massa resents Alonso, first considering his point of view on the 2008 events as explained by Nelsinho, I guess he also blames him for his lost championship -ridiculous IMO-, and second because up till now he was the nr1 driver at Ferrari, or at least the one everyone listened to, and things have changed overnight with Alonso being dominant. Sucks for him and can't blame him as most would feel the same in his situation, but it's up to him to try and outdrive his new teammate.
Considering this rumour, while I agree Kubica deserves a top seat, I don't believe it will be Felipe's.
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