What is the point of the WCC ?????????

[xpman]

I ask this question now more than ever we have other teams selling there own Equipment other than Engines.
The latest is with deal is with Williams selling there gearbox to the Hispania racing team .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9149322.stm

Few weeks ago we had RedBull of all people selling there gearboxs to the Lotus (in Name ONLY team)

So begs the Question what is the Point of The World Constructors' Championship if everybody is selling to each other and ONLY a few are Actualy making ANYTHING.

[justjesper]

I guess you can argue the name "Constructor" They do "Construct" a team. No team has ever made there own tires or fuel.

I think it is great that a team to win the "Constructors" title, have to get both care high in the points all the time or as many times as possible.

I think my conclusion is that Constructor = Team

[Agron]

I guess you can argue the name "Constructor" They do "Construct" a team. No team has ever made there own tires or fuel.

I think it is great that a team to win the "Constructors" title, have to get both care high in the points all the time or as many times as possible.

I think my conclusion is that Constructor = Team

Yes, besides the start in any business is always difficult, can't blame small teams for trying to buy pieces they can't build themselves, at least with no high enough standards.

[goferrarigo]

Money,money and some more money.

[Brakefade]

The constructor's championship rewards the overall design of the car, whether you build the engine and tranny yourself or not. It's almost if the name "constructor" is arbitrary. It could very well be called World Designers' Championship, but it just doesn't have the same ring as "constructors".

[elekvault]

The constructor's championship rewards the overall design of the car, whether you build the engine and tranny yourself or not. It's almost if the name "constructor" is arbitrary. It could very well be called World Designers' Championship, but it just doesn't have the same ring as "constructors".

Plus, World Designer's Championship acronym would be WDC, and that's already taken. ;)

[Greig]

Same thing wrong as your caps lock key I think

[Ken]

I think the main point has been missed about the WCC.

Its the order of the teams in the WCC that decides how much prize money they get for next year. Simpoles

[Tifoso]

Same thing wrong as your caps lock key I think

Fixed

Avoid all caps titles like the plague, please

[Tifosi]

Why do people keep banging on about Teamwork if the WDC is the only thing that matters in F1 then?

Is the purpose of a team solely to make one man the best driver on the grid??????

I think not!

[Grillo]

Formula One is a team sport but the main objective is the WDC. The WCC is a bonus, normaly winning the WDC doesn't hurt your chances at the Constructor's. I think that's how F1 teams work.

[Poltergeistes]

I don't know... Usually to fans of drivers (most fans) its the WDC that is more important, but the only team that really has a permanent fan base which is ferrari, the WCC is a big deal, i remember in 2008 we were very proud to have won 8 of the last 10 WCC's, that's what makes the ENTIRE team happier, but the WDC gets more fan attention, i remember mclaren was so very happy that lewis won the WDC although they lost big to ferrari on the WCC.

In the end what will be more important to you is always the one championship you won, and not the championship that the other won.

To be honest to you I have to agree with Domenicalli, If Fernando takes this championship redbull is really the idiots of F1, because their car is just so much better over all, even if ferrari hadn't set their minds on Fernando as early as Germany, It is Vettel and Webber who are doing rubbish with such wonderful car.

PS Obviously that there is the small fact called fernando alonso driving the ferrari, let's not play it small, it is the advatange you need to win these days hands down. You don't need Newey if you have Alonso.

[FranksterGM]

The older fans care about the constructors championship.
The newer Lewis and his girlfriend in the pits type of fans seem to care mainly about the drivers championship.

[scuderiafan]

The older fans care about the constructors championship.
The newer Lewis and his girlfriend in the pits type of fans seem to care mainly about the drivers championship.

I'm sorry, but Ferrari fans cannot be downplaying the constructors' title. The media downplay it beacause McLaren haven't won one since 98.

[Ferrari Man]

Ye the WDC is where all the glory is for the drivers but the WCC is where the money is for the team.. I would say from a team s point of view the WCC is the main goal with the WDC as a bonus and visa versa from the drivers point of view. At the end of the day the teams need the money to produce the winning cars...

[FFFerrari]

WCC brings the bacon to the table from Bernie, WDC brings the cash from the sponsors - simple as that. In my eyes, both are valued and important, but I kind of think that the team itself has more value if it wins WCC than putting all eggs in one basket and only manage WDC. The team positions in the pits are determined by the WCC standings for instance.

[Grillo]

I have a question for some of you that might know how it works.

Do the teams get money for the position on the table or for every single point the get? Do they get anything for race victories?

[Ferrari Man]

I have a question for some of you that might know how it works.

Do the teams get money for the position on the table or for every single point the get? Do they get anything for race victories?

As far as i know its the position you finish in on the constructors table.. I dont think there is prize money for race wins.. I could be wrong thou..

[RedRebel40]

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[Nova]

I think its also a large matter of pride for the winning constructor....they built the best car..they get the honor and the glory....plus lottsa clams....what the driver does with that car however, is another matter...

[siberianlady]

The positions of the teams in the WCC table determine what slice of the 50% of Tv monies etc the teams get on a sliding scale from the winners to place 10. That is why the new teams are battling like crazy for the 10th spot as its worth about 10 mill- a lot of dosh to the new small teams. Also why Williams is hell bent on beating Force India. It is alll about hard cash!

[Ken]

I said it earlier in this thread and as FFFarri said it brings the bacon to the table the table.

A large portion of the profits made by Bernie's organisation are shared out to the teams, The amounts awarded are decided by the posistion of the teams in the WCC with the 1st team getting the lions share and the amounts reduce accordingly down to the last team on the list. For the 1st placed team it means 10's of millions of $'s toward their next years racing budget.

That is why the WCC will allways be far more important to the teams than the WDC. I have tried to say this in previous threads but some dont want to believe it.

For teams like Ferrari, and Malaren having a popular driver win the WDC can aid marketing and gives the drivers a great incentive to win.

On a side note Ramilton as a marketing asset ???

[KurtC]

The older fans care about the constructors championship.
The newer Lewis and his girlfriend in the pits type of fans seem to care mainly about the drivers championship.

well said mate

[Nova]

Actually, for a new team to win the wcc is huge...the wcc means a great deal to the teams, moreso than the wdc..Im bummed, we lost it..
Ferrari has worked all year to get within 2 or 3/10's of the RB's..what the heck they got in those things?
AND, Ferrari's other nemesis, Reno, well..thats 1 of the things they got in there...
Im sorry to lose the wcc..I think Ferrari has really put forth an amazing effort to get a so so car well balanced
and able to fight for wins...

[Grillo]

Thank you guys for your answers.