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    Thumbs up Domenicali: One error cant cancel out a great season

    11.15.2010

    Yas Marina, 15 November It was a very short night for Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, which returned to the track after yesterdays bitter pill. There isnt a moments pause to take a breath in this very long season: from tomorrow they will be lapping the circuit again. The first two days of testing are for young drivers: for Ferrari the new test driver Jules Bianchi will be at the wheel. Then on Friday and Saturday will come the tests with the new Pirelli tyres with Massa and Alonso at the helm.

    The very few hours of sleep that he managed were certainly not enough for Stefano Domenicali to overcome the disappointment of the negative end to the championship. But they didnt dim the usual lucid judgement of the Scuderia chief.

    What happened yesterday afternoon was a negative episode but it cant cancel out all the good things that weve seen this season, said Domenicali as he left Abu Dhabi. We owe the fact that we returned to fight for the title until the end to the great work on the 2010 car that we already began at the end of last year. Its also down to our cohesion and the capacity to react that we showed in the most difficult moments of the season.

    Then its like when you get to the final of the football World Cup and it goes to penalties: if you manage to put away all five spotkicks youre a hero if you miss one youre a donkey. We will have to know how to accept that sport is a matter of victories and defeats and anyone who works in this field knows that well. Its in these moments that true sportsmen know how to use the energy to start again and look to the future with effort and determination.

    Domenicali continues: We must not forget that we were up against a car that was better than hours, theres no doubt about that. Yesterday we simply gave Red Bull a present but we didnt lose the championship here or at least not just here. I could cite other races where we left important points on the track, without counting grands prix like Valencia and Silverstone where there were certainly unfortunate episodes. Its easy to curse those who miss their penalty on the last day of the championship but, perhaps, someone else let in a calamitous goal at the first match of the season. The points are always worth the same, whether its the beginning or the end of the season.

    Weve worked so hard in these 12 months and the results have been seen. We must be proud of what weve achieved, even if its clear that were also the first to get unhappy about not winning. There are some areas that we can improve, I think above all regarding the performance of the car that definitely has to go up. Our engineers know that well and I expect an important reaction from them. On the reliability front I believe that we have made some good steps forward: the initial worries about the engine were dealt with in the best way so that we concluded the season in similar condition to our main rivals.

    There are no revolutions on the way despite the emotion of the moment and the shouts of those who want to turn heads at all costs according to a deep-rooted malpractice. Whoever knows Formula 1 knows how difficult it is to stay at the top for so many years, says the Ferrari Team Principal. Just ask the team that dominated last year and this year didnt pick up anything or the worlds giant motor manufacturers who took on this challenge with great effort only to abandon it through lack of results. Weve been at the top for almost a decade and a half: in 14 years we have won that many titles (six drivers and eight constructors).

    Weve taken 107 wins out of 242 grands prix weve entered and the changes inside the team management have always been minor. The people who are in the central roles today have been at Ferrari for many years and have won a lot. That doesnt mean its static, anything but. We know that we must do better in some sectors and weve already reinforced the structure with some new arrivals, such as Pat Fry who has taken on the role of Deputy Technical Director and is involved in projects across various areas linked to the new car.

    Domenicali concludes: I would like to thank Fernando again for all that he has done in his first year with us. We knew his talent but having had the chance to have him in our team has made us appreciate his qualities as a man and as a leader. I can understand what he has gone through in these last few hours and Im very sorry for the error that the team made. Hes believed in us to the end and hes been exceptional about placing his faith in us. Yesterday we didnt manage to win the title together that wed chased until the end with great tenacity. But we will do everything to manage it next year because Ferrari has only one magnificent sentence to endure: to win.

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    so proud of them all, well said Stefano. Looking forward to next year.

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    What he is saying between the lines is that they let Fernando down. Nothing to be proud of in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann View Post
    What he is saying between the lines is that they let Fernando down. Nothing to be proud of in the end.
    Not really.

    19 races. The team made mistakes. Fernando made mistakes.

    Ferrari have lots to be proud of in the end and so does Fernando.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    Not really.

    19 races. The team made mistakes. Fernando made mistakes.

    Ferrari have lots to be proud of in the end and so does Fernando.
    Yes but Fernando's mistakes wasn't crucial and were fixed later on by stunning performances. Ferrari did a crucial mistake and that's why they apologize to him, just like Fernando apologised to the team in Monaco's crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvantiFer View Post
    Yes but Fernando's mistakes wasn't crucial and were fixed later on by stunning performances. Ferrari did a crucial mistake and that's why they apologize to him, just like Fernando apologised to the team in Monaco's crash.
    Off course none of Alonso's mistakes mattered, not one of them make any difference.......
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    Yeah, pah - who needed those measly Spa points anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    Yeah, pah - who needed those measly Spa points anyway.
    Nope not crucial, would not have made any difference
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    Don't forget Monaco or China where we could have won


    In Stefano Domenicali, we have a team boss who has proved to be a leader. - Luca diMontezemelo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Nope not crucial, would not have made any difference
    Crucial and not making a difference are different things!

    Could Fernando still win WDC after making the not-most-competitive-car in 2010? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after China mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Spa mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Korean pitstop mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Abu Dhabi mistake? No -that's crucial-

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvantiFer View Post
    Crucial and not making a difference are different things!

    Could Fernando still win WDC after China mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Spa mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Abu Dhabi mistake? No -that's crucial-
    yes but if he had won the first two, then the last one wouldn't be crucial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs.Domenicali View Post
    yes but if he had won the first two, then the last one wouldn't be crucial
    Too sensible I fear

    Korean pitstop mistake? what did that cost him, oh yeah nothing...
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    I don't think it was a particularly great season. We were consistently slower than Red Bull and even McLaren at times, depending on them to make mistakes to succeed. Massa was nowhere all season. Salvaging the driver's title after Red Bull's continual blundering for Alonso would probably have made it a great season. A strategy where we aim to finish consistently on the podium, hoping to split the Red Bulls on occasion is what we were reduced to in the closing stages of the season and isn't good enough for next season where I fully expect them to sort out the problems they experienced in 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvantiFer View Post
    Crucial and not making a difference are different things!

    Could Fernando still win WDC after making the not-most-competitive-car in 2010? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after China mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Spa mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Korean pitstop mistake? Yes.
    Could Fernando still win WDC after Abu Dhabi mistake? No -that's crucial-
    Er well Abu Dhabi was the last race so of course it was crucial. I fail to see your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    Er well Abu Dhabi was the last race so of course it was crucial. I fail to see your point.
    Point is, Ferrari = Bad, cost mighty Alonso his title, no mistakes made by Alonso affected his title challenge, none at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvantiFer View Post
    Yes but Fernando's mistakes wasn't crucial and were fixed later on by stunning performances. Ferrari did a crucial mistake and that's why they apologize to him, just like Fernando apologised to the team in Monaco's crash.
    Stop! please just stop.

    This is a team sport after all, both Alonso and Ferrari made mistakes. What matters is the strong bond and committment both have for the future, including Felipe. I am sure Ferrari will be a stronger team next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Point is, Ferrari = Bad, cost mighty Alonso his title, no mistakes made by Alonso affected his title challenge, none at all.
    How silly of me to assume Our Lord and Saviour Alonso didn't make any mistakes. I do apologise.
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    i don't think it's necessary to start to count who did how many mistakes, it's like adding the salt to open wound.
    not gonna change my profile picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvantiFer View Post
    Yes but Fernando's mistakes wasn't crucial and were fixed later on by stunning performances. Ferrari did a crucial mistake and that's why they apologize to him, just like Fernando apologised to the team in Monaco's crash.
    Whatever Fredifoso. As long as your golden boy isn't at fault. Fixed? What arrogance!

    Crucial? What the hell? Everything is crucial in a season. If it wasn't for the Ferrari pit crew and Massa pulling back after the Rettifilo on lap 1 then he would have lost 7 points at Monza.

    Holier than thou? Get real dude!

    Fernando did brilliantly this season. He didn't drive his own a*se around though
    Last edited by Tifosi; 15th November 2010 at 20:53.

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    this is not just a (no swearing please) One error, it more than that, it cost world title , where the (no swearing please) full focus you had talked about before the race ,
    in this situation you (no swearing please) Embarrass the NAME of FERRARI
    go to learn Mr. nice guy.
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    Some people here seem to be blindfolded, I of course don't hate Ferrari, on the other hand I think it's the best team there is. Even the team says it "and I’m very sorry for the error that the team made", they know Alonso did an excellent job, much more better than Ferrari actually, who did not make the best car with the biggest budget and the biggest team of people, ONCE AGAIN, I'm not trying to say I hate Ferrari or something, the contrary, I think it is a great team but this season wasn't the best from them, and when I read how proud people is of what Ferrari did this year I just feel sad because this people seem to not expect more of this team, and I believe this team has so much more potential than what it did this year.

    When I say Ferrari let Fernando down, I say it because for me, this year at least, he's been the driver of the year, for me it has been his best season, yes, his best season even iwith the mistakes, it is still his best season so far. He himself said it, it's not just "a biased fan opinion".

    And I'll repeat it again, everyone makes mistakes, and Ferrari did a crucial one. Is Ferrari a bad team because of that? No of course not, but if the team itself apologises to Fernando is because they know they've been in contention until the last race because of Fernando did this year.

    This said... Forza Alonso! Forza Ferrari!

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    Ferrari know they made an error, Alonso knows he made errors that made Ferrari's error worse, point is you are trying to deny Alonso's mistakes played any part in him losing the title when quite clearly they did. Spa was a critical mistake with Vettel out of the points when you reflect on it.
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    Some people are blindfolded as to what reality is in an F1 team. Don't blame the guy on my bedroom poster mentality. Doesn't work in the team game i'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    Some people are blindfolded as to what reality is in an F1 team. Don't blame the guy on my bedroom poster mentality. Doesn't work in the team game i'm afraid.
    wow, you maybe the one of Some people who know what reality is in an F1 team, but by the way tell me what the really happen?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIFOSI_FERRARI View Post
    wow, you maybe the one of Some people who know what reality is in an F1 team, but by the way tell me what the really happen?????
    pardon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvantiFer View Post
    Some people here seem to be blindfolded, I of course don't hate Ferrari, on the other hand I think it's the best team there is. Even the team says it "and I’m very sorry for the error that the team made", they know Alonso did an excellent job, much more better than Ferrari actually, who did not make the best car with the biggest budget and the biggest team of people, ONCE AGAIN, I'm not trying to say I hate Ferrari or something, the contrary, I think it is a great team but this season wasn't the best from them, and when I read how proud people is of what Ferrari did this year I just feel sad because this people seem to not expect more of this team, and I believe this team has so much more potential than what it did this year.

    When I say Ferrari let Fernando down, I say it because for me, this year at least, he's been the driver of the year, for me it has been his best season, yes, his best season even iwith the mistakes, it is still his best season so far. He himself said it, it's not just "a biased fan opinion".

    And I'll repeat it again, everyone makes mistakes, and Ferrari did a crucial one. Is Ferrari a bad team because of that? No of course not, but if the team itself apologises to Fernando is because they know they've been in contention until the last race because of Fernando did this year.

    This said... Forza Alonso! Forza Ferrari!
    Hang on a minute there - you were calling for heads to roll yesterday. I think people need to accept that it is a team sport with the input from alot of people not just the driver. These people work incredibly hard all year round to give the drivers the equipment and support to do their jobs, without which they wouldn't be racing. So perhaps that is a point worth remembering that is those people that helped ensure Alonso was in the position to be fighting for a world championship in the first place. A driver does not make a car faster on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    pardon?
    it simple simple quotes, what the really happen Mr. soft guy?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIFOSI_FERRARI View Post
    it simple simple quotes, what the really happen Mr. Nice guy?????
    Honestly dude, i'm just trying to find out what your question is. You are asking me what happened i think. I don't understand in relation to what exactly so you'll have to calm down and flesh it out a bit so that I can answer you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    Honestly dude, i'm just trying to find out what your question is. You are asking me what happened i think. I don't understand in relation to what exactly so you'll have to calm down and flesh it out a bit so that I can answer you.
    wow you forget what you had said before couple of minutes, you Don't blame the guy on my bedroom poster mentality, can you exlane this for me Mr. Soft guy????

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