2011 Valencia Testing.

**Ibrahim Patel** · 3rd February 2011, 14:25

27 1:15.106
28 1:15.495 +0.389
29 1:15.611 +0.116
30 1:29.071 +13.46
31 1:15.164 -13.907
32 1:15.576 +0.412
33 1:15.660 +0.084
34 1:15.648 -0.012
35 1:15.663 +0.015

still out there, and the tyres seem to be doing fine :)

**bastif1** · 3rd February 2011, 15:14

Someone does calculate the average time for each driver?
Is there a website where you can see the times the drivers lap after lap?

16h14 : only cars 2011
1 Kubica Lotus Renault 1.13.144
2 Perez Sauber 1.14.458
3 Maldonado Williams 1.14.299
4 Webber Red Bull 1.14.382
5 Schumacher Mercedes 1.14.537
6 Massa Ferrari 1.14.541
7 Buemi Toro Rosso 1.14.801

**Hermann** · 3rd February 2011, 15:18

Originally Posted by bastif1

Someone does calculate the average time for each driver?
Is there a website where you can see the times the drivers lap after lap?

16h14 : only cars 2011
1 Kubica Lotus Renault 1.13.144
2 Perez Sauber 1.14.458
3 Maldonado Williams 1.14.299
4 Webber Red Bull 1.14.382
5 Schumacher Mercedes 1.14.537
6 Massa Ferrari 1.14.541
7 Buemi Toro Rosso 1.14.801

http://msfree.gr/ms.php?id=18694

**Ibrahim Patel** · 3rd February 2011, 15:19

RE: Is there a website where you can see the times the drivers lap after lap?

http://msfree.gr/ms.php?id=18694
yeah, click on the drivers name, and you get a pop up with the times...

**Ibrahim Patel** · 3rd February 2011, 15:19

sry, dbl post

**bastif1** · 3rd February 2011, 15:23

Thank you for the reply, what do you think of the first test?

**DanielM** · 3rd February 2011, 15:39

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

**Ste** · 3rd February 2011, 15:42

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

I think it's just known as bad luck isn't it?

**Hornet** · 3rd February 2011, 15:48

Originally Posted by RedRebel40

From an Alonso fan:

I think its too early to read into it, even if its true. Maybe RB went for a higher downforce setup.

I don't think anyone was looking to set the car up to suit that particular track

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

Its a coincidence bro.

No matter how you drive your car, you can't cause it to leak by your driving style. Well, not unless you crash it into a wall and of course you'll damage everything.

It could have happened to anyone. The only bright side is that it happened now during testing and hopefully highlight any possible flaw.

**Grillo** · 3rd February 2011, 15:49

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

The #1 put some sugar in the fuel tank yesterday before leaving the garage.

**Salvador Dali** · 3rd February 2011, 15:52

Massa just done a new personal best on lap 71 with 1:14.017! 5 place just behind Weber who is on 1:13.936....

**Salvador Dali** · 3rd February 2011, 15:55

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

NO SIR!!! Real Ferrari fans don't laugh at their drivers having bad luck... That was real low of you sir...

**Tifosi** · 3rd February 2011, 16:12

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

I'm pretty sure the Gods aren't driver biased tbh but i'm also pretty sure that even if they were they wouldn't post the fact in such a cruel and unsubtle way on a Ferrari forum

Let them strike me down (or make a verifiable post to that effect) if I tell a lie!

**racingbradley** · 3rd February 2011, 16:14

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

Have you ever thought that this could be the 3rd day with this engine. Maybe Ferrari were testing the reliability of said

**sf6921** · 3rd February 2011, 16:25

Does anyone have any idea what could be some of our aero updates for the next tests? I dont see anything that is particularly encouraging or innovative from us so far.
I know it's still early days, and it's great that fernando was able do so many laps (bad bad luck for massa this morning), but for the last few years, we seem to be showing up to these tests looking around like, "Ok, we built a car. Now what do we put on it?"

I'm just concerned, somebody give me good news, please

**Hombre B** · 3rd February 2011, 16:30

Originally Posted by sf6921

Does anyone have any idea what could be some of our aero updates for the next tests? I dont see anything that is particularly encouraging or innovative from us so far.
I know it's still early days, and it's great that fernando was able do so many laps (bad bad luck for massa this morning), but for the last few years, we seem to be showing up to these tests looking around like, "Ok, we built a car. Now what do we put on it?"

I'm just concerned, somebody give me good news, please

I know, only this:

Aldo Costa:

"I think as I said at the launch of the car, we have done a certain step of development and we plan for a further development," he explained. "From the mechanical point of view, the car between here and Jerez will be almost complete, but from the aerodynamic point of view not. So there will be further evolutions."

Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89265

**sf6921** · 3rd February 2011, 16:38

Thanks Hombre, I sure hope whatever is in the pipeline makes our car a stomper.

**Ferrari312** · 3rd February 2011, 16:51

Originally Posted by Tifosi

I'm pretty sure the Gods aren't driver biased tbh but i'm also pretty sure that even if they were they wouldn't post the fact in such a cruel and unsubtle way on a Ferrari forum

Let them strike me down (or make a verifiable post to that effect) if I tell a lie!

he will strike down upon him with furious anger..

**Marcus Gronholm** · 3rd February 2011, 17:00

Originally Posted by DanielM

Alonso does 2 days testing with zero reliability problems, yet massa jumps in and blows up within 12 laps. You gotta laugh. Even the gods know who is the ferrari number 1.

You wrong.

And 1st and 2nd day Fernando have a problem

**FrankAlfa** · 3rd February 2011, 17:00

The following is the final results of day 3 testing:
Full lap times as of 5pm local time, and the end of day three of the three-day test at Circuit Ricardo Tormo near Valencia in Spain.

1. Robert Kubica Lotus Renault GP-Renault 1m 13.144s
2. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m 13.201s*
3. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m 13.553s*
4. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m 13.936s
5. Felipe Massa Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 14.017s
6. Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1m 14.207s*
7. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1m 14.299s
8. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m 14.469s
9. Michael Schumacher Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 14.537s
10. Sebastien Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 14.801s
11. Narain Karthikeyan Hispania-Cosworth 1m 16.535s*

Not bad at all for Ferrari. Massa has done quite well on his first day of testing with the Ferrari F150. These times compare very well with Alonso's first and second day of testing.

Forza Ferrari!!!!

**FerrariF60** · 3rd February 2011, 17:01

Originally Posted by sf6921

Thanks Hombre, I sure hope whatever is in the pipeline makes our car a stomper.

Or maybe like others have said here that we COULD be having some really good upgrades/innovations and/or aero upgrades just waiting that we don’t want anybody else to see/copy from now until Bahrain.
So we could be (I REALLY HOPE SO HERE) introducing a JAW DROPPING upgrade in Bahrain test that will blow the wings off Red Fools and all the other rivals…

**gvsnraju85** · 3rd February 2011, 17:15

Originally Posted by Salvador Dali

NO SIR!!! Real Ferrari fans don't laugh at their drivers having bad luck... That was real low of you sir...

+1....well said...this is a ferrai forum and not a specific driver forum......so it would do better to think of it as a team and not about a specific driver.

**TheProdigalSon** · 3rd February 2011, 17:44

that's not good what happened to massa car.. atleast he got some running, how many laps did he do?

**scuderiafan** · 3rd February 2011, 17:59

Originally Posted by TheProdigalSon

that's not good what happened to massa car.. atleast he got some running, how many laps did he do?

80, abd just behind Mark Webber. not bad at all. Good job Felipe

i think the F150 got the most mileage, and even with a basic aero package, has good pace.

I've said this many times, i just think Ferrari arent that naive to just forget about the diffuser and exhaust, and Costa has mentioned something about it, so...

**Suzie** · 3rd February 2011, 21:06

Originally Posted by TheProdigalSon

that's not good what happened to massa car.. atleast he got some running, how many laps did he do?

He still got 80 laps in so it could have been worse.

**Grillo** · 3rd February 2011, 22:36

Well, I have been there first 2 days of testing, seeing it with my own eyes, having a clear view of the first corner.

And I don’t want to spoil the season for F1 fans but I can tell you RBR are sand-bagging….a lot.

The speed with which Vettel took that car through the first corner is ridiculous. Visibly and dramatically faster than any other car. Long stints, short stints, doesn’t matter. Compared to the other cars it almost looks like you are watching one of those old Charlie Chaplin films which plays a bit faster than normal.

And the rest of the lap, especially between the corners he slowed down intentionally.

People who saw it for the first few times, the way he took it around the 1st corner, were exclaiming ‘oooohs’ and ‘woooows’. I think RBR noticed that too, surprised maybe others weren’t able to go that fast around it, so around the end of the 1st day they stopped going that fast around the corner. 2nd day they only did it only now and then.

So unless the 2011 Mclaren comes up with something similar that goes as fast around the corner, this season is already over, because the RBR is also reliable. The Ferrari won’t cut it, the Mercedes won’t either and the Renault is all hot air around the exhaust system which gave them problems (word there was that the reperations were about that, not the things they said publicaly).

Yes it is ‘just’ testing, but if you saw it with your own eyes you know what is up. So I easily predict RBR Constructors Champion and Vettel Drivers Champion around Singapore, barring weird unexpected happenings in the race…but then again, we had quite a few of those, so OK, around Korea it is settled then, ha!

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/0...art-for-massa/

Some other comments in other forums and some friends there in Valencia told me Red Bull still looked way ahead of the rest on the corners. Maybe Helmut Marko knew what he was talking about. But don't panic, it's still 1st test and it seems we'll have a quite more developed car in Bahrain. Hopefully it will put us in the fight.

**Ste** · 3rd February 2011, 22:56

Yea but who is that guy? A Red Bull fan perhaps? Someone seeing what they want to see and nothing more?

We don't know anything until Bahrain so I won't worry until I see the Red Bulls dominating there.

**Suzie** · 3rd February 2011, 22:59

Well slightly worrying it may be, but Red Bull showed in 2010 that having the fastest car doesn't always necessarily ensure victory. Once you take into account changing weather, crashes, strategies and brain fades, nothing is that cut and dried. There are far too many variables in an F1 race for Marko and a random poster on James Allen's blog to be predicting a Red Bull walkover.