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    Ferrari F150 launch on January 28th

    Ive allready forgotten what happened yesterday and im now allready hanging for next year.

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    Can anyone update us on the latest news for next years car?
    Im abit scared that Ferrari havent put much effort in it allready since they went all out for this years car to try and win the championship. I really think that Ferrari are under alot of pressure now to produce the QUICKEST car, not just 1 of the most reliable, if we will have any chance to be victorious next year. The only positive atm is that Alonso will be part of the development from now, and with his talent and experience, i think he will be a great help to the engineers, just as Michael was.
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    I agree that with Alonso with onboard to help with development, we will be on top from the start. He mentioned in an interview that when he got to Bahrain this year, he still didn't know what all the buttons did on the steering wheel. So considering he didn't have anything to with the initial development of the car he did a damn good job this year.

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    Does anyone know when they will show their car?

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    Definitely before Feb 1 and the first test.........isn't it usually late January when the car showing gets off the ground?
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    Yep, we def need to build the best package for next year. Hopefully the Pirellis will suit Ferrari, like Michelin suited Renault. We already have Alonso on board, maybe Massa will be quicker next year.

    Since 2005, we have only won 1 WDC and 2 WCC. I know Ferrari are not satisfied with 3 championships out of a possible 12.
    I want a repeat of the 2000-04 era

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    Do you think that, due to the second half of the season comeback and development catch-up race made by the Scuderia, will the 2011 car be a bit delayed on development?
    Remember what happened at Renault back on 2006, with the mass dumper ban, and renault "abandoning" the 2007 car and putting all efforts on both tittle bids on 2006.
    Also add to the equation that there was a tyre suplier change (Michelin->Bridgestone), just like next year...
    are there reasons to be worried?

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    Tyre change it's the same for everyone and don't you think the main rivals were all developing their cars to the very end.


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    i've got the impression that renault and mercedes left the 2010 car up in mid-season.
    my toughts, anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by UPz View Post
    i've got the impression that renault and mercedes left the 2010 car up in mid-season.
    my toughts, anyway
    And I wonder about Mclaren, they seemed on course to take the WCC at one point.

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    McLaren had new rear wing at Abu Dhabi, they never stopped developing either, we are big enough to work on both projects and I don't buy that keeping developing this year will affect next year, seems its just an excuse if you have a poor start
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    Well I guess we can use this thread to discuss the upcoming changes. I know we will have KERS once again, the minimum weight of the cars has been increased and new rubber from Pirelli. Not sure if car lengths are the same aswell and I heard that the KERS power boost has been increased too. If I recall correctly it was 70bhp last year, not sure for 2011.

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    add to the list the moveable rear wing...

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    The FIA’s World Motor Sport Council has agreed a number of significant changes to the Formula One regulations. Among them are a new single tyre supplier, aerodynamic revisions designed to boost overtaking, a ban on F-ducts, and the return of a 107% qualifying rule.

    Pirelli will take over as the sport’s sole tyre supplier from 2011, following Bridgestone’s decision to withdraw at the end of this season. The Italian company will provide all teams with rubber for the next three years, in compliance with existing F1 sporting and technical regulations.

    Under new moveable bodywork regulations for next season, drivers will be able to adjust the rear wing from the cockpit as soon as they are two laps into the race. However, the system’s availability will be electronically controlled and it will only be activated when a driver is less than one second behind another at pre-determined points on the track. The system will then be deactivated once the driver brakes. It will be available at all times throughout practice and qualifying.

    In a move that could frighten one or two of the new teams, next year any driver not setting a qualifying time within 107% of the fastest Q1 lap will not be permitted to race. Stewards, however, will have the power to grant exceptions in extenuating circumstances, such as where a driver has recorded a suitable time in a previous practice session.

    Several other measures have been brought in with immediate effect. Following the late-race confusion at Monaco, where Michael Schumacher passed Fernando Alonso, the safety-car rules have been clarified. No overtaking is allowed if the safety car is on track on the final lap.

    And following the spectacle of Lewis Hamilton pushing his fuel-light McLaren back to the pits at the end of Montreal qualifying, new rules state that cars required to give a post-session fuel sample must arrive back in pit lane under their own power.

    Wednesday's World Motor Sport Council decisions in full:
    Tyres
    Pirelli has been selected as the single tyre supplier for the FIA Formula One World Championship for a period of three years, commencing in 2011. The sole supplier will undertake to strictly respect the sporting and technical regulations implemented by the FIA.

    “Competitor’s staff” FIA Licence
    A proposal relating to specific licences for members of staff of competitors entered in the FIA World Championships has been submitted to the Formula One Commission. This is under consideration for implementation in the FIA Formula One World Championship from the start of 2011, with a view to inclusion in other FIA World Championships in the future.

    Safety Car
    With immediate effect, no car may overtake until it has passed the first safety car line for the first time when the safety car is returning to the pits. However, if the safety car is still deployed at the beginning of the last lap, or is deployed during the last lap, it will enter the pit lane at the end of the lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.

    General safety
    With immediate effect, any car being driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically, or which is deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers, will be reported to the stewards. This will apply whether any such car is being driven on the track, the pit entry or the pit lane.

    In order to ensure cars are not driven unnecessarily slowly on in-laps during qualifying or reconnaissance laps when the pit exit is opened for the race, drivers must stay below the maximum time set by the FIA between the safety car line after the pit exit and safety car line before the pit entry. The maximum time will be determined by the race director at each event prior to the first day of practice, but may be amended during the event if necessary.

    The grid
    From 2011, any driver whose best qualifying lap exceeds 107% of the fastest Q1 qualifying time will not be allowed to take part in the race. Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race. Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be determined by the stewards.

    Driver adjustable bodywork
    From 2011, adjustable bodywork may be activated by the driver at any time prior to the start of the race and, for the sole purpose of improving overtaking opportunities during the race, after the driver has completed two laps. The driver may only activate the adjustable bodywork in the race when he has been notified via the control electronics that it is enabled. It will only be enabled if the driver is less than one second behind another at any of the pre-determined positions around each circuit. The system will be disabled the first time the driver uses the brakes after the system has been activated. The FIA may, after consulting all the competitors, adjust the time proximity in order to ensure the purpose of the adjustable bodywork is met.

    Aerodynamic influence
    With the exception of the parts necessary for the driver adjustable bodywork, any car system, device or procedure which uses driver movement as a means of altering the aerodynamic characteristics of the car is prohibited from 2011.

    Weight
    From 2011, the minimum weight of the car must not be less than 640 kg at all times during the event.

    Fuel draining
    With immediate effect, if a sample of fuel is required after a practice session the car concerned must have first been driven back to the pits under its own power.
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    The FIAs World Motor Sport Council has agreed a number of significant changes to the Formula One regulations. Among them are a new single tyre supplier, aerodynamic revisions designed to boost overtaking, a ban on F-ducts, and the return of a 107% qualifying rule.

    Pirelli will take over as the sports sole tyre supplier from 2011, following Bridgestones decision to withdraw at the end of this season. The Italian company will provide all teams with rubber for the next three years, in compliance with existing F1 sporting and technical regulations.

    Under new moveable bodywork regulations for next season, drivers will be able to adjust the rear wing from the cockpit as soon as they are two laps into the race. However, the systems availability will be electronically controlled and it will only be activated when a driver is less than one second behind another at pre-determined points on the track. The system will then be deactivated once the driver brakes. It will be available at all times throughout practice and qualifying.

    In a move that could frighten one or two of the new teams, next year any driver not setting a qualifying time within 107% of the fastest Q1 lap will not be permitted to race. Stewards, however, will have the power to grant exceptions in extenuating circumstances, such as where a driver has recorded a suitable time in a previous practice session.

    Several other measures have been brought in with immediate effect. Following the late-race confusion at Monaco, where Michael Schumacher passed Fernando Alonso, the safety-car rules have been clarified. No overtaking is allowed if the safety car is on track on the final lap.

    And following the spectacle of Lewis Hamilton pushing his fuel-light McLaren back to the pits at the end of Montreal qualifying, new rules state that cars required to give a post-session fuel sample must arrive back in pit lane under their own power.

    Wednesday's World Motor Sport Council decisions in full:
    Tyres
    Pirelli has been selected as the single tyre supplier for the FIA Formula One World Championship for a period of three years, commencing in 2011. The sole supplier will undertake to strictly respect the sporting and technical regulations implemented by the FIA.

    Competitors staff FIA Licence
    A proposal relating to specific licences for members of staff of competitors entered in the FIA World Championships has been submitted to the Formula One Commission. This is under consideration for implementation in the FIA Formula One World Championship from the start of 2011, with a view to inclusion in other FIA World Championships in the future.

    Safety Car
    With immediate effect, no car may overtake until it has passed the first safety car line for the first time when the safety car is returning to the pits. However, if the safety car is still deployed at the beginning of the last lap, or is deployed during the last lap, it will enter the pit lane at the end of the lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking.

    General safety
    With immediate effect, any car being driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically, or which is deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers, will be reported to the stewards. This will apply whether any such car is being driven on the track, the pit entry or the pit lane.

    In order to ensure cars are not driven unnecessarily slowly on in-laps during qualifying or reconnaissance laps when the pit exit is opened for the race, drivers must stay below the maximum time set by the FIA between the safety car line after the pit exit and safety car line before the pit entry. The maximum time will be determined by the race director at each event prior to the first day of practice, but may be amended during the event if necessary.

    The grid
    From 2011, any driver whose best qualifying lap exceeds 107% of the fastest Q1 qualifying time will not be allowed to take part in the race. Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race. Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be determined by the stewards.

    Driver adjustable bodywork
    From 2011, adjustable bodywork may be activated by the driver at any time prior to the start of the race and, for the sole purpose of improving overtaking opportunities during the race, after the driver has completed two laps. The driver may only activate the adjustable bodywork in the race when he has been notified via the control electronics that it is enabled. It will only be enabled if the driver is less than one second behind another at any of the pre-determined positions around each circuit. The system will be disabled the first time the driver uses the brakes after the system has been activated. The FIA may, after consulting all the competitors, adjust the time proximity in order to ensure the purpose of the adjustable bodywork is met.

    Aerodynamic influence
    With the exception of the parts necessary for the driver adjustable bodywork, any car system, device or procedure which uses driver movement as a means of altering the aerodynamic characteristics of the car is prohibited from 2011.

    Weight
    From 2011, the minimum weight of the car must not be less than 640 kg at all times during the event.

    Fuel draining
    With immediate effect, if a sample of fuel is required after a practice session the car concerned must have first been driven back to the pits under its own power.
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    Like the Fuel draining one. Anti-McLaren rules are always good

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    lol

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    The cars will be almost the same from this year. It's nothing like the change we had from 2008 to 2009. Also, quitting development on this year's car and focusing on 2011 will not be as productive as previous years since the tires are changing.

    Our rivals either had really good top speed (Mclaren and stupid Renault) or they had a lot of downforce (RB). So with the ban on the F-Ducts and the DDD, it will hurt their performance a lot more than ours. The F10 was sort of good at everything. Not the most downforce or top speed, but we had enough of each to make us competitive. Also remember we have experience with KERS, whereas RB don't. I can almost hear Vettel crying to Rocky "KERS doesn't work! KERS doesn't work!"

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    I think Renault will supply KERS with their engines, so they have experience of it as well, even if they did ditch it early. The extra weight and the position of KERS could be a factor, hopefully we have ours working a lot better than we did before
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    Our KERS, I thought, was better than most last year. I know Felipe preferred to have it on the car and I think there was only one race when Ferrari took it off his car. Kimi wasn't so happy with KERS as for Fisi and Badoer it's hardy fair to compare.
    I think what I am trying to say is maybe our KERS is a good starting platform for next year.


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    There was a lot of talk in the summer about the 2011 and 2012 regs. Till now some are still to be official.? Like DDD (is it banned or not?) or do the front adjustable wings stay? Do we have KERS for shure for 2011? If we do are all the regs the same as the last time (except the power output ofc)? For me as an outsider / fan it is still hard to know all the details in the new regs. I hope the teams know more since it is hard to make a car that is on the limit of the regs if you do not know them...

    But the more likely scenario is that I just don't know. If someone has the any official info on this I will be very grateful!

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    DD is banned as is f-duct, KERS is certainly in and mandatory I believe.
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    I know that is what I heard also. But in the official statement there is only the banning of F-duct, but no word about DD... Maybe that the DD & KERS was done before this, it just that on the FIA site I could not find any other info on 2011 regs except what you have posted. That is why I asked.

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    As long as they stick to the rules and don't allow DD because someone has been rather clever as in 2009


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I think Renault will supply KERS with their engines, so they have experience of it as well, even if they did ditch it early. The extra weight and the position of KERS could be a factor, hopefully we have ours working a lot better than we did before
    If I recalled correctly, one of the biggest problem with KERS is that we are unable to adjust the weight distribution in the car to suit different conditions/driving style. Not sure if we can change that cons at all

    This is what I'm worried the most.

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    I think that was down to the max weight which has been lifted for next year. It was just to heavy and there were very little they could do with the ballast. I think we have a nice KERS it just needs a better car...

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    probably the whole reason about increasing the minimal weight is due to weight distribution issues teams running KERS had. I even read somewhere that the FIA might consider supplying a standard KERS to all the teams like McLaren does with the ECU. Magneti Marelli was mentioned too but it was a while ago [Ferrari's official supplier]. Will try and fish out the article somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX202 View Post
    probably the whole reason about increasing the minimal weight is due to weight distribution issues teams running KERS had. I even read somewhere that the FIA might consider supplying a standard KERS to all the teams like McLaren does with the ECU. Magneti Marelli was mentioned too but it was a while ago [Ferrari's official supplier]. Will try and fish out the article somehow.
    found a link:
    http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...D=362549&FS=F1

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX202 View Post
    probably the whole reason about increasing the minimal weight is due to weight distribution issues teams running KERS had. I even read somewhere that the FIA might consider supplying a standard KERS to all the teams like McLaren does with the ECU. Magneti Marelli was mentioned too but it was a while ago [Ferrari's official supplier]. Will try and fish out the article somehow.
    found a link:
    http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...D=362549&FS=F1

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    OT. Do we get car #3-4 since Alonso is runner up driver, or car#5-6 (3rd constructor)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    DD is banned as is f-duct, KERS is certainly in and mandatory I believe.
    Don't think KERS will be mandatory, however weight distribution is fixed. Looking forward to 20 race year finishing in Brazil
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