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    F150th Italia Technical Analysis Thread

    Ferrari F10/F150th Italia - overhead comparison



    Although the chassis is higher and the nose flatter on the F150 (top), the new car's front wing is the final iteration from last season's F10 (bottom).

    (1) The new front suspension has higher wishbones and, for the first time on a Ferrari, the steering arm is not inside the top wishbone.

    (2) To improve visibility and gain some more room for the fuel tank, the driver is seated more vertically in the cockpit.

    (3) The sidepods have improved intrusion protection and inlets shaped in a similar style to those on last season's McLaren.

    (4) The rear, 'cola bottle' section of the car is much wider, with the exhausts - which will undergo further changes ahead of the season - sited in a very low position.

    (5) Although Ferrari have opted to retain their push-rod suspension for 2011, by reducing the gearbox size and moving the damper and rocker installation forward by 15cm (inset) they can derive similar benefits to those gleaned from a pull-rod suspension system, with very compact packaging.

    (6) The area in front of the rear wing and diffuser has been neatened and narrowed to improve the flow of air. The rear wing and diffuser themselves are just temporary solutions so the team can run the car and test its reliability. Updated versions will be installed before the first race.

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    Ferrari F150th Italia - 2010/2011 front suspension comparison



    With the chassis positioned five centimetres higher, the suspension pick-up points are also higher (main drawing - 2011; inset - 2010). And in a first for Ferrari, the steering arm is no longer included inside the top wishbone (red arrow).

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    Ferrari F150th Italia - rear suspension



    Ferrari have retained their push-rod suspension, but have moved its elements forward. The larger angle of the push-rod link (1 and 2, highlighted in yellow) means the car can have a very narrow and low rear section.

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    Ferrari F150th Italia - oil tank changes



    The F150th Italia has almost the same wheelbase as 2010's F10, even though the team's KERS system has been positioned inside the car's fuel tank area. In addition, the oil tank has more capacity (see photograph), and is much taller than the one used in the 2009 F60 (see drawing, red arrow).

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    A little OT, but am I the only one here who's unable to view Imageshack pictures?

    All I'm seeing is a frozen frog and it says Domain Unregistered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    A little OT, but am I the only one here who's unable to view Imageshack pictures?

    All I'm seeing is a frozen frog and it says Domain Unregistered
    Am able to see all the images.. have however attached the images in the thread too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs316 View Post
    Am able to see all the images.. have however attached the images in the thread too..
    Wow, thank you very much for attaching those picture

    I really cant see any imageshack pictures anywhere, not just this forum. Not sure why.
    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    Wow, thank you very much for attaching those picture

    I really cant see any imageshack pictures anywhere, not just this forum. Not sure why.
    Thanks again
    Imageshack have this stupid thing where the website has to be registered, with them OR you personally have to have an account and sign in. Free to do but a pain in the rectum. Easiest thing is to join up, log in and don't logout. You don't need to keep the window/tab open, just don't log out. TSN can register with them, and then we will all see the images.

    But, personally, I think the best solution is for people to stop using them and find an alternate free image host site (photobucket's good) that doesn't put it's user through this stupidity.

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    Disclaimer: I am "not" in any way shape or form technically inclined,
    so this may seem a "dumb" question to those of you who may be.

    I do understand that there are variations of the diffuser that teams
    have on their cars. I'm curious to know whether some diffusers will
    be better suited at some tracks or if there isn't any difference at all?

    Thanks in advance, if you can shed some light on this for me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJB13 View Post
    Imageshack have this stupid thing where the website has to be registered, with them OR you personally have to have an account and sign in. Free to do but a pain in the rectum. Easiest thing is to join up, log in and don't logout. You don't need to keep the window/tab open, just don't log out. TSN can register with them, and then we will all see the images.

    But, personally, I think the best solution is for people to stop using them and find an alternate free image host site (photobucket's good) that doesn't put it's user through this stupidity.
    I didn't know that, spanky.. will upload with photobucket next time
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    The best and easiest site for uploading pictures is this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJB13 View Post
    Imageshack have this stupid thing where the website has to be registered, with them OR you personally have to have an account and sign in. Free to do but a pain in the rectum. Easiest thing is to join up, log in and don't logout. You don't need to keep the window/tab open, just don't log out. TSN can register with them, and then we will all see the images.

    But, personally, I think the best solution is for people to stop using them and find an alternate free image host site (photobucket's good) that doesn't put it's user through this stupidity.
    Thanks, that works. Glad I have an account there.

    Quote Originally Posted by sagi58 View Post
    Disclaimer: I am "not" in any way shape or form technically inclined,
    so this may seem a "dumb" question to those of you who may be.

    I do understand that there are variations of the diffuser that teams
    have on their cars. I'm curious to know whether some diffusers will
    be better suited at some tracks or if there isn't any difference at all?

    Thanks in advance, if you can shed some light on this for me!!
    I'm no expert to explain how each individual diffuser works either, but from what I understand, all teams are trying to use them for one same purpose, which is to increase aero downforce. Regardless how they implement it, all this diffuser and exhaust thing including Renault's front exhaust are all aimed to generate more aero downforce.

    This will come in handy at track with fast corners where the amount of aero downforce is very important. That's where we'll see a noticeable difference, if any team can come up with an effective one.

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    Why is this thread called F150th Italia, didn't people say from the other thread that they will still continue to call it F150?

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    I'm still calling it the F150!! Maybe the title of this thread "needs" to include
    "th" not to upset the sensibilities of such a big tough truck such as Ford's??

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    The exhausts on the Ferrari are very low and flat (inset). They blow towards a channel (1) that exits through a thin horizontal window, which is the car's starter hole. The rules limit the size of the starter hole to a maximum surface area of 3,500mm². The centralised nature of the exhaust's positioning has forced the Italian team to add heat protection around the car's deformable rear crash structure (2).

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    Scarb's Ferrari F150o Italia Analysis

    For the final test at Barcelona, Ferrari brought the long awaited revisions to the F150 (although the cars name has frequently changed, I’ll continue to use this title). This consisted of a revised wings, new sidepods and new exhausts. It was Ferraris assertion at its launch that the car would have evolved aero and specifically different exhausts before the first race. So despite some people suggesting the changes are copying their rivals, it’s more likely that different teams have converged on the same ideas.


    The front wing pylons have been lengthened to form turning vanes

    At the front the main changes are to the front wing and its supporting pylons. These pylons have been extended in a similar manner to Renaults ideas from 2009-2010. Since 2009 the rules on vanes and bargeboards around the front of the car have been severely restricted. The rules mandate a limit on the cross sectional area for the front wing mounts, Ferrari have therefore extended their wing mounts, but also narrowed them. Thus meeting the rules and still providing the car with some aero advantage.

    3.7.2 Any horizontal section taken through bodywork located forward of a point lying 450mm forward of the front wheel centre line, less than 250mm from the car centre line, and between 125mm and 200mm above the reference plane, may only contain two closed symmetrical sections with a maximum total area of 5000mm2. The thickness of each section may not exceed 25mm when measured perpendicular to the car centre line.


    A shapelier endplate has been added to the cascade

    Details of the front wing have also changed, in particular the endplates, these now feature a more sculpted vane on the footplate. As well as the endplate fro the main front wing, the inner endplate for the small cascade mounted to it is also now shapelier. The small endplate now having a distinctly flared shape, aimed at redirecting flow inside the front wing.


    New sidepod inlets and a blown diffuser are the main changes to the F150

    Along the middle section of car, Ferrari have produced a new sidepod, initially similar to the launch specification. But the main radiator inlet is now reshaped, being much more of a “U” shape and smaller with it. The sidepod inlet retains the distinctive protruding upper lip. I was told by Nick Tombasis that this was an aero feature and not a structural one (i.e. side impact crash protection). Curiously this lip features a removable panel to allow for cooling. Being so far forward of the radiators its hard to understand how heated radiator flow could be ducted into the small exit, or perhaps some electronics of KERS components are sited within this hollow section.

    Further back along the sidepods, the new exhaust system is routed along the floor and into an open section of floor in the outboard 5cm section of diffuser. This is the same solution as Red Bull has come up with, as already explained this was an obvious area in the 2011 rules for exploitation, as I even proposed this location in my pre-season trends and solutions article. Ferrari route the flattened exhaust inside heat shielding along the floor. The blowing effect of the exhaust passes under the floor for a more effective method of blowing the diffuser. Ferrari wanted to produce the exhaust in glass ceramic composite (such as Pyrosic), but this request was denied by Charlie whiting who clarified the exhaust must be made of materials on the permitted materials list. Such composites, while allowed to be used in some exceptions, are not allowed to be the actual material of the exhaust pipe.



    Also the middle of the car gained revised wing mirror pods. these appear to be split into upper and lower mouldings. Presumably to allow sensors or electronics to be fitted inside the pods during testing or free practice.

    Lastly the rear wing has also been modified with a smaller flap. Several teams have switched their rear wing to smaller flaps, at first this is counter intuitive to the exploitation of the Drag reduction system (DRS) also termed the adjustable rear wing. As one would initially deduce that adjusting a larger flap would reduce drag by a greater amount. However, shallower flaps effectively flatten out when the leading edge is moved 50mm from the trailing edge of the main plane (50mm is the maximum slot gap allowed for the DRS). Thus they produce very little load and therefore little drag.
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    Great article. I hadn't noticed the new mirror design. Great job on the front wing supports, a good exploitation of the restrictions in that area.

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    Ferrari 150° Italia - pre-season evolution



    After a hectic winter test programme, Ferrari have introduced the latest version of their 2011 car (top drawing - launch version below) for the Australian Grand Prix. There are new front wing supports (1), featuring very wide pillars, in order to better channel the air under the car, whilst the revised front wing has noticeably different endplates
    (2). There is a much bigger undercut (3) at the front of the sidepods to feed more air to the back of the car. At the car's midpoint there are new vertical splitters (4), whilst narrower bodywork is highlighted by the larger portion of the black, heat-resistant material (5). There's a revised exhaust (6), inspired by the one featured on the Red Bull, which features longer pipes blowing towards the side diffusers (7). Finally at the back there's a new version of the diffuser designed to complement the revised exhausts (8).

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