Malaysian GP Race Thread

[Ferrarichamp]

are we the 4th quickest team now?

[eugene22n]

i just wonder how many races more the damage control mode is on and when we get to the real stuff?

Until we find the downforce sadly. Hopefully we'll have it for Turkey. But nothing coming from Ferrari recently bring me confidence in this. Costa did not sound very upbeat on the developments. He bascially said Ferrari screwed up on the Initial Development.

[hogo]

Do you have any evidence to back that up, like telemetry data??
It was a racing incident thats all neither of them should be punished.

do you have telemetry data to back that up?

[Greig]

Then why are you telling other posters to come up with solutions when they critisize the team?

Why not?

[RockyRaccoon]

Wow Jake Humphrey on the BBC really doesn't like Alonso does he? Keeps making snide remarks about the incident with Hamilton.

[Sianellen]

do you have telemetry data to back that up?

Point taken lets wait for the data then before making accusations.

[eugene22n]

Given that we are about a second off Red Bull and McLaren P5 P6 is about as good of a result as we could have hoped for on pace.

I want us to translate this better race pace into China for qualy.

[Greig]

lol, look up the word hyprocrite in a dictionary.

Why? I think you clearly have some issues with reading.

For one, some on this thread were blaming the team, I asked for a solution since they can blame someone, I never blamed Alonso, I asked a question, see the difference, enjoy your time on the forum try and read a little more before posting.

[Katu]

Until we find the downforce sadly. Hopefully we'll have it for Turkey. But nothing coming from Ferrari recently bring me confidence in this. Costa did not sound very upbeat on the developments. He bascially said Ferrari screwed up on the Initial Development.

shortly said - not this year?

[Greig]

You didnt just ask you challenged them with sarcastic remarks. Thanks will try.

Ok try reading harder, you seem like a really good new member to have here

oh wait you are not new at all, you are the previously banned fanboy troll Mirage, nice to see you changed

[Mrs.Domenicali]

I really don't get the whole hysterical football style blame culture that people adopt, wanting people to lose their livelihoods and making out these employees are a bunch of slackers. Anyone involved in F1 from the guys at the factory to the mechanics, to the strategists, to the race engineers, even the team bosses all work incredibly hard and incredibly long hours in their jobs for long periods of time away from their families.

The minute something goes wrong its "sack, sack, sack" and the pitchforks come out. It is one thing asking for people to improve their performance and being disappointed in a slow or poor pitstop (god forbid human beings actually make errors in time critical highly pressured competitive situations) but quite another to think that the easiest or even most reasonable solution is to sack the lot of them. Who are you going to replace these mechanics with? these are the guys that set up and build the car also each race - perhaps we can lend Massa and Alonso the tools and they can build their own cars and do their own pitstops, or better still since we are all so fantastic at doing sub four second pitstops ourselves we should all get our cv's into Maranello

Just to clarify I have no problem with people being disappointed by mistakes or wanting the team to do better, its the whole hysterical "sack sack sack heads must roll" everytime something goes wrong....that I find a bit....

Rant over.

[eugene22n]

shortly said - not this year?

I'm trying to stay positive but we went from a very optimistic Ferrari before Australia to exactly the opposite after Aus Qualy. The things that Stefano, Costa and Fry have been saying are not encouraging.

Really we probably have until Valencia to get that second back. It's a long season.

Hopefully progress on the aero AND progress on our pitstops

[aroutis]

I really don't get the whole hysterical football style blame culture that people adopt, wanting people to lose their livelihoods and making out these employees are a bunch of slackers. Anyone involved in F1 from the guys at the factory to the mechanics, to the strategists, to the race engineers, even the team bosses all work incredibly hard and incredibly long hours in their jobs for long periods of time away from their families.

The minute something goes wrong its "sack, sack, sack" and the pitchforks come out. It is one thing asking for people to improve their performance and being disappointed in a slow or poor pitstop (god forbid human beings actually make errors in time critical highly pressured competitive situations) but quite another to think that the easiest or even most reasonable solution is to sack the lot of them. Who are you going to replace these mechanics with? these are the guys that set up and build the car also each race - perhaps we can lend Massa and Alonso the tools and they can build their own cars and do their own pitstops, or better still since we are all so fantastic at doing sub four second pitstops ourselves we should all get our cv's into Maranello

Just to clarify I have no problem with people being disappointed by mistakes or wanting the team to do better, its the whole hysterical "sack sack sack heads must roll" everytime something goes wrong....that I find a bit....

Rant over.

Voice of reason as always. You seriously should post more... :)

[aroutis]

Point taken lets wait for the data then before making accusations.

Or assumptions ?;)

[RockyRaccoon]

I really don't get the whole hysterical football style blame culture that people adopt, wanting people to lose their livelihoods and making out these employees are a bunch of slackers...

[eugene22n]

we have 1/2 the points of RBR right now ... and Mercedes have 2 POINTS total! I think everybody expected more from them. Relatively poor pace and lots of bad luck and mistakes.

[Sianellen]

Or assumptions ?;)

hehe yup .. or assumptions

[eugene22n]

The team can sort out if anybody needs sacking. Nothing I would wish on a person.

But seriously we do have a slow crew. This was the case last year and it seems to have carried over into this year when it matters more. We were also on the slower end in Aus.

[Katu]

Just to clarify I have no problem with people being disappointed by mistakes or wanting the team to do better, its the whole hysterical "sack sack sack heads must roll" everytime something goes wrong....that I find a bit....

sometimes i get the feeling i watch something else than the others. i wouldn't scream 'sack, sack, sack!' if it was one time thing. bad/slow pitstops are quite regular thing recently. i'm not saying i'm better, i'm saying that others show that it's done better, why can't ferrari do that better and f*** up the drivers great results for that poor car

[scuderiafan]

I really don't get the whole hysterical football style blame culture that people adopt, wanting people to lose their livelihoods and making out these employees are a bunch of slackers. Anyone involved in F1 from the guys at the factory to the mechanics, to the strategists, to the race engineers, even the team bosses all work incredibly hard and incredibly long hours in their jobs for long periods of time away from their families.

The minute something goes wrong its "sack, sack, sack" and the pitchforks come out. It is one thing asking for people to improve their performance and being disappointed in a slow or poor pitstop (god forbid human beings actually make errors in time critical highly pressured competitive situations) but quite another to think that the easiest or even most reasonable solution is to sack the lot of them. Who are you going to replace these mechanics with? these are the guys that set up and build the car also each race - perhaps we can lend Massa and Alonso the tools and they can build their own cars and do their own pitstops, or better still since we are all so fantastic at doing sub four second pitstops ourselves we should all get our cv's into Maranello

Just to clarify I have no problem with people being disappointed by mistakes or wanting the team to do better, its the whole hysterical "sack sack sack heads must roll" everytime something goes wrong....that I find a bit....

Rant over.

Our race pace was very good for a team that should be far way. We have flexi wing coming, which all the fans wanted. we held on to the tyres longer than the others. Our pit crew needs work yeah, especially the guy on the front left. ( i saw on of the mechanics getting angry at him as well.) i dont think there was much wrong with our strategy.

So we'are in good shape, but all our 'fans' can do is moan?

Great post by the way

[eugene22n]

Speaking of Massa ... much better relative pace than in Aus right? I really liked seeing that. Go Massa!

[Ferrarichamp]

People keep talking about RB and Macca, but what about Renault? 2 podiums so far vs Ferrari 0.
I think its gonna be a tough season

[eugene22n]

People keep talking about RB and Macca, but what about Renault? 2 podiums so far vs Ferrari 0.
I think its gonna be a tough season

Indeed we are on a similiar pace to them. I'm sure Kubica would have been even more impressive.

[eugene22n]

We might have the 4th fastest car ... in which case the damage control during these races is ok.

[Greig]

Speaking of Massa ... much better relative pace than in Aus right? I really liked seeing that. Go Massa!

Yep done very well, good race from him

[crewskas]

Speaking of Renault,
we are lucky (as a team), that Robert is not driving...
He would easily be ahead of us all the time...


Have you noticed something the last 2 years?
Massa is constantly better than Alonso in the starts...
Why?

I mean, Alonso should improve that I think.
I can't remember him to gain any positions in any race start...
(maybe one or two in the whole season, last year?)

[eugene22n]

and man ... Williams double DNF's ... no points at all so far. Wasting that innovative rear end.

[grinchy]

Wow Jake Humphrey on the BBC really doesn't like Alonso does he? Keeps making snide remarks about the incident with Hamilton.

Jake`s a nancy boy,take no notice!!

[Tech_Skill]

Maybe Alonso has to push harder because Hamilton is tough to pass And without DRS he is bound to try harder.

First off, both Hamilton and Alonso drove outstanding races, Hamilton is very hard to pass, he brakes real late I think which is part of the reason and his defence from Alonso when Alonso attempted to overtake the 1st time was pure class.

I think Alonso, wanted to get rid of him as soon as possible, especially given that the DRS wasnt working, that might have played a factor in the accident.

As for the pit crew.............ste was spot on with what he said, its just simply unacceptable....when you havent got the fastest car, strategy becomes even more important, and ferrari are not good enough on strategy and that has been the case for some time now. If we hadnt of messed up the stop and stayed infront of button, then Alonso wouldnt have even been in that situation in the 1st place imo.

[Lithium]

Our race pace was very good for a team that should be far way. We have flexi wing coming, which all the fans wanted. we held on to the tyres longer than the others. Our pit crew needs work yeah, especially the guy on the front left. ( i saw on of the mechanics getting angry at him as well.) i dont think there was much wrong with our strategy.

So we'are in good shape, but all our 'fans' can do is moan?

Great post by the way

Yes, that was a great post by Mrs.Domenicali.
I guess some people should be looking more at positives from this race - we don't look as bad as predicted, in fact, we looked pretty good. Yes, it would be great if the pit crew could up their game, but then again, Alonso needs to sort out his 'start' problem, engineers should look how to improve the car.. In short, THE TEAM need to up their game (I'm sure they're all working on it!) But we're not all far off, so it's all doable.
Also, other teams have their problems too - at least our cars weren't chewing the tyres like Hamilton's McLaren.
Furthermore, I was delighted with Ferrari strategy again - it was solid, just like in Melbourne, so that's great to see Last year it sure wasn't always so.
All in all, this race makes me much more optimistic for the rest of the season.