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    Ferrari renews F1 quit threat

    Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo has reiterated the threat that unless F1 changes direction in the near future, it will lose its most loyal supporter – as he blasted the new regulations this season for making the racing too 'artificial'.

    Ferrari is the only team on the grid to have begun every single campaign in F1's six-decade history, but of late, there have been mixed signals about its continued commitment – and di Montezemolo contends that the advent of the new, steering wheel-operated moveable rear wing and deliberately fast-degrading Pirelli tyres in 2011 as well as the FIA's proposal for four-cylinder, turbocharged engines in two years' time is anathema to everything that the Scuderia represents.

    “A steering wheel is now a computer covered in buttons,” the Italian lamented in an interview with German magazine Auto Bild, arguing that the sport 'has become too artificial' and that 'the fans no longer understand'. “The [Concorde Agreement] expires at the end of 2012. We need to discuss now how to proceed. Ferrari will continue to be there, so long as the sport gives us back something for the development of technology for our production cars – otherwise not.”

    Meanwhile, the Prancing Horse is on the verge of aping early-season F1 2011 World Championship leaders Red Bull Racing with a flexible front wing for its underperforming F150° Italia – even if technical director Aldo Costa concedes that such an addition alone will not provide an immediate quick-fix to the car's front downforce issues.

    “It was not possible [to keep last season's flexible front wing] with the new, more stringent test for measuring the flexibility of the wings,” he explained to Finnish newspaper Turun Sanomat. “Red Bull, however, succeeded and passed the tests. We have studied the situation carefully, and now we will have the same solution.

    “We know what our biggest problem is, but solving it quickly is more difficult. We are trying solutions in Shanghai, which I hope will improve things. If they don't bring the results we expect, we have a big development in front of us.”

    On the opening day of practice for this weekend's Chinese Grand Prix, however, double F1 World Champion Fernando Alonso lost valuable set-up time in the afternoon with hydraulic woes – caused by 'experimental parts' – that left the Spaniard unable to complete his planned programme, one that had been due to include an aerodynamic investigation begun at Sepang, putting several new components through their paces and an evaluation of the two tyre compounds brought to the circuit by Pirelli.

    “I did not manage to do any long-run testing to get an idea of the tyre degradation, but fortunately, Felipe [Massa – team-mate] managed to do that on both types, so at least we have a good basis to start from,” the 29-year-old reported. “As for the new aerodynamic components, it is too early to say if they really produce an advantage. The engineers will now have to study the data carefully tonight, before drawing any definite conclusions as to whether or not we are moving in the right direction in terms of development.

    “From the little I could see, there are no problems – or at least they are very slight – in terms of warm-up on the hard tyres, which could be an improvement for managing the tyres in qualifying; in Australia it was a problem with the warm-up, and even in Malaysia with the hard tyre the first lap was not the quickest. I don't expect much to change from what we saw there, though – McLaren and especially Red Bull are quicker than us and are the favourites. At the moment, we are not capable of fighting for the win, but that doesn't mean we won't be trying.

    “The main priority for us is to improve the car as quickly as we can, bring new parts to every race and hopefully they [will] work well enough. We know that all the teams will bring new parts as well, so we just have to bring more parts than them.”

    “I think we had more problems today in three hours than we had in the whole 15 days of winter testing!” quipped Ferrari's assistant technical director and head of racetrack engineering, Pat Fry. “[That was] a shame, because we needed to cover some distance, especially with Fernando, who was experimenting with the latest aerodynamic solutions that they have come up with in Maranello. We will try and make a virtue of necessity and carry out the job of analysing the data with what we managed to gather.

    “The hydraulic problems stem from the same fault, a defective component and we will take action to fix it for the rest of the weekend. We will aim to be as well-prepared as possible for qualifying and the race, but I don't think we can expect anything very much different to what we have seen in the first two grands prix of the season.”
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    The Concorde agreement expires in 2012? I see negotiations have started already...

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    Note: See the F1 pet peeves thread...

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    I like these new changes and they are easy to understand (srsly Luca, fans aren't that dumb...). Pirelli tires have also been awesome so far. If LdM wants to flame FIA he had to trash them for their biased approach to the flexi wings rule or new engines they plan to introduce from 2013 and so on.

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    Right first of all, try to change these ridiculous 4 cyls into V6s, that i wouldnt mind.

    And you know, people are already attacking Luca for this, when if like Ron said the same thing, they would

    Typical, shoot the messenger


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    "News" from Nowt!

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    It probably wont come to pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It probably wont come to pass
    My thoughts exactly. Ferrari will always be in F1. F1 needs Ferrari.

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    I agree it IS too artificial and I would follow and root for Ferrari in whatever series they may redirect to
    if they abandon F1. At that time I'd probably keep track of but not really follow F1 anymore but I would follow
    Ferrai's EVERY race, whatever the series.

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    Ferrari will not quit.
    Why?
    Ferrari does not want to quit, and F1 does not want Ferrari to quit.
    So it's just all politics, and in the end they will always find some agreement.
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Well, i wouldnt mind a FOTA series as what they were trying to do in 2009. Testing allowed, no goddamn engine freeze, aero not the be all and end all. I bet Bernie would join aswell, as hes disillusioned with the fia.

    I mean seriously Jean was a smart guy when with us, why is he all 'green' now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Liscia View Post
    I agree it IS too artificial and I would follow and root for Ferrari in whatever series they may redirect to
    if they abandon F1. At that time I'd probably keep track of but not really follow F1 anymore but I would follow
    Ferrai's EVERY race, whatever the series.
    Most motorsport fans, drivers and companies from around the world would follow Ferrari whatever series they go. It would take few seasons to turn F1 into a second tier series if Ferrari leave. Their only chance to keep it up would be to stay with at least V8 and forget about 4 pots.

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    You'd think the FiA would be aware of the old saying "132 times bitten, 133 times shy"....

    But somehow I think they will fall for LDM's oldest card trick ........ again

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    Well LDM is just doing his part to get the season back on track...

    From http://www.sniffpetrol.com


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    Quote Originally Posted by mm154 View Post
    Well LDM is just doing his part to get the season back on track...

    From http://www.sniffpetrol.com

    The truth is funny. That pic is neither. Ferrari have been quietly working hard to get their car back on track, which is the way it should be. Mclaren are the ones pointing fingers, mainly at RB.

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    Its satire... Like you said Ferrari has been working quietly, not blaming others like McLaren, "cheating" like RB's flexiwing, etc...

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    he has a point.
    but i do wonder if he would have one on this rant if we were on the winning ways.
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    I hope Luca continues to focus on preventing the retarded idea of green engine, a 4 cylindric crap in a metal block. Bernie is on our side, he too is against that thing, so I believe Luca has better chance at changing that. I believe the bigger teams like McLaren would support us in that regard too.

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    If you ask the fans privately, most of them would agree with most of what LdM said. Only an absoule @#$%&@# would agree with the new F1 they're planning for 2013.

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    ok leave already !!! you had your chance along with others to form a new F1 but Yet again you sold your soul to Bernie!!!
    As for the tyres and steering wheel issues etc etc etc I happen to agree with you but then its up to you and other teams to tell the FIA where to go but coz of $$$$$$$$ non of you do .

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    Ferrari are not threatening to leave F1. They are allowed to speak about future regulations and why should they say they like something they don't. F1 is no longer the pinnacle of motor sport because its not cutting edge its working within a suffocating bunch of regulations. For example if any of the grid wanted to explore having a six wheel car again it will not happen, if Ferrari want V12 and no KERS they cannot. Nobody can create there FORMULA ONE solution.
    Therefore when the regulations say FOUR Cylinders to a car company that NEVER EVER would use four cylinders on its production models, it goes against there interpretation of the best formula to make a super car. Ferrari do not need F1 if its going to be a complete PR exercise for whatever fad is in the news, such as ELECTRIC flaming cars as mentioned early this month!!!

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    “A steering wheel is now a computer covered in buttons,” the Italian lamented in an interview with German magazine Auto Bild
    A bit like the steering wheel in the FF and F458 Italia then
    Some say he knows two facts about ducks and they are both wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavallino Rosso View Post
    A bit like the steering wheel in the FF and F458 Italia then
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Oh my my have you all forgotten why Ferrari race.

    It is the main marketing tool for their production cars.

    I cannot see how building F1 cars with 4 cylinder 1600cc engines even if with turbos can help them develop the production cars to sell and allows them race.

    I doubt there will be much support from Maccer on this either as they are trying to the same as Ferrari.

    The only teams that might support it are possibly Renault who like to make little fast cars around the 1600 cc engine and Redbull who dont make cars ??
    Its all in the name - FERRARI

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    I thought Enzo made production cars to pay for his racing!

    "Luna faccia schiaffo testa"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi View Post
    I thought Enzo made production cars to pay for his racing!
    That's what I thought too.........something has changed?
    You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonsomaniac View Post
    That's what I thought too.........something has changed?
    Mmmm, Fiat, Mubadala, Various Banks! Damn Shareholders wanting a return on their investments so they can afford to buy Ferrari's!
    Some say he knows two facts about ducks and they are both wrong...
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    LDM is a sad guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRebel40 View Post
    LDM is a sad guy
    Its sad to read such comments
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    comon dude, when you can't win you are threatening to leave F1. it's very childish even my 3 year old cousine doesn't talk like that.

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