Spanish GP: Friday, Saturday FP sessions thread

[Greig]

that sucks.. RB can interpret their front wing rules how they like and nothing.. crock of sh%# if u ask me

Did we have a flexing wing last year? yes

Did we bother to keep it this year? no

Sure blame the FIA

[FFFerrari]

where is vettel btw?

Having problems with the engine.

[FANDO]

vettel may have an angine problem -

[RockyRaccoon]

Seriously banning the rear wing is a total joke. Every other loophole has been allowed, its no wonder Ferrari don't bother being innovative!

[NJB13]

Ah so you have changed tact again Where have they not been consistent then?

BTW, good evening, or morning for you I guess.

There was a question raised from a visual look at the Ferrari yesterday. CW goes public that he will investigate, he did that and made a decision same day.

There have been many questions raised about Red Bull having moving aero parts (wing/nose) which has been backed up by lots of video and pictures, but CW has not gone public, announced an investigation and made a decision.

The FiA have said that EBD's are moving aero parts, but they are letting teams keep using them.

That equals inconsistent to me.

[scuderiafan]

Felipe fastest 1st sector. setup getting better i think.

[luicchi]

with this decision our race is gonne and the championship is gonne too, so i would protest just with an atitute.Not Racing.

[tifoso SF]

i would not race has a protest with FIA regulations. I Flex wing which is banned is considered legal and a breach in the regulations is considered Illegal.incredible.

calm down, I know it's frustrating.. but it was probably easier to prove illegal than the wing for instance, or even other solutions, otherwise they couldn't declare it illegal that easily.

[tifoso SF]

could vettel's Q be in danger then?

[scuderiafan]

with this decision our race is gonne and the championship is gonne too, so i would protest just with an atitute.Not Racing.

steady on. loads of races left.

[NJB13]

You'd think Pastor M needs a good performance - and less of the off-track excursions.

[Greig]

BTW, good evening, or morning for you I guess.

There was a question raised from a visual look at the Ferrari yesterday. CW goes public that he will investigate, he did that and made a decision same day.

There have been many questions raised about Red Bull having moving aero parts (wing/nose) which has been backed up by lots of video and pictures, but CW has not gone public, announced an investigation and made a decision.

The FiA have said that EBD's are moving aero parts, but they are letting teams keep using them.

That equals inconsistent to me.

does the Red Bull wing pass the FIA tests? yes or no? A visual look at our wing? erm no they would have been in scrutineering not just looking at pics posted on the internet...

The picture evidence is highly misleading, as the car is often under load, under braking, full acceleration, different suspension travel etc etc etc The FIA have been all over the Red Bull, if Red Bull are clever enough to pass the tests and gain an advantage then good on them, we choose not to bring a flexing wing...yet.

FIA has also said they will listen to any protest about the blown diffuser and as I understand it it will be banned legally from Silverstone onwards once they change the rules, the FIA have said they believe it's a moveable aero device, they would have to prove that.

[Forzi]

We're struggling in the 2nd sector.

[Greig]

Vettel coming back out

[scuderiafan]

Fernando on a long run on softs. taking that into account, the pace is pretty good .

[scuderiafan]

We're strugling in the 2nd sector.

high fuel.

[Forzi]

high fuel.

Hope so.

[Corey]

Oops, sorry. I guess someone else saw the rear wing issue before I did.

Still, this do sound ridiculous. All points made above are all well said.

[scuderiafan]

Hope so.

enough for 5 laps.

[tifoso SF]

5 laps is not exactly high fuel.... nor a long run...

[Greig]

Problem for Nando?

[scuderiafan]

[hogo]

with this decision our race is gonne and the championship is gonne too, so i would protest just with an atitute.Not Racing.

We aren't RedBull, we won't be allowed to "innovate" (exploit the rules). So yeah we are pretty much doomed till the end of 2012.

[Forzi]

Problem for Nando?

He was fueld for a decent run, but canceled it and came back. This aint looking good.

[Hornet]

Someone please tell me its not hydraulics problem on Alonso car

[Greig]

We aren't RedBull, we won't be allowed to "innovate" (exploit the rules). So yeah we are pretty much doomed till the end of 2012.

What has Red Bull innovated?

[scuderiafan]

Alonso's session over.

[luicchi]

look at this ....Decisions like this one just made the Red fouls stronger. right now webber in 1.21 and others in 1.23....i repite a flex wing which is banned is considered legal a breach in the regulations is considered illegal.Does this make any sense?? Not to me...not even to anyone

[NJB13]

does the Red Bull wing pass the FIA tests? yes or no? A visual look at our wing? erm no they would have been in scrutineering not just looking at pics posted on the internet...

Did our rear wing fail a prescribed test? By Charlie's own words it was clever and down to interpretation.

The picture evidence is highly misleading, as the car is often under load, under braking, full acceleration, different suspension travel etc etc etc The FIA have been all over the Red Bull, if Red Bull are clever enough to pass the tests and gain an advantage then good on them, we choose not to bring a flexing wing...yet.

As RD CW can investigate the car further and, just as was done in 2006 with our rear wing, deem it moving and ban it. The current rules permit him to act on something that appears to move.

they would have to prove that.

No they don't, the can penalize on their current interpretation (they say EBDs are moving aeros). They don't need a protest. It is then up to the teams to protest and prove CW wrong.

[medeni73]

We will be lucky if we get to Q3, we are over secs off with new setup...