Ferrari not ruling out Hamilton swoop

[Mrs.Domenicali]

Sorry I'm not able to join in the hatefest and make things up

You won't be joining in anything in a minute if you keep trolling on a ferrari forum - as I will lose my patience and ban you - go ahead and make my day

[evo_spook]

what about sending Alonso out on hards when they gave Lewis softs?

if i were him, i would be enquiring that also, and why Hamilton didnt to as he was told by letting Alonso by in quali, so he may have ruined the whiole strategy for the team.

Alonso was also faster in Hungary, but Lewis again got the stewards against Alonso, and McLaren ( although fernando didnt help either.)

I think you missed where I said they both behaved badly.

[sagi58]

I hate to be the one to break this to you, evo; but, just because you aren't "directly"
spewing bile all over Alonso, your insinuations don't leave a lot to the imagination!

[evo_spook]

I might be not be agree that Alonso was ill treated by McLaren, but that is different casting hate on him. He wasn't given no1 status as he expected as reigning champion against a very fast rookie, and this shook him, whether this was right or wrong is not the point, maybe they should have and in the beginning he was given advantages, but when Lewis complained in Monaco, then Ron tried to make sure they were given equal strategy, both drivers were unable to handle this or maybe ron should have being stronger and put them in their place, but it didn't work and the rest is history.

[Jose Lorca]

What has happened to this thread?

It's full of pointless bitching and nonsense about 2007

[Greig]

Come over to Apollo on Holderness Road and we can discuss hating Lewis

[evo_spook]

Apollo, dunno that place, I'm all west!

[Greig]

Explains a lot

[Stormsearcher]

Equal as much as Alonso needing an independent observer in his garage to check they don't mess with his tyre pressures, for sure

If Lewis brings more of your sort of people here then I would gladly have Massa come last every race rather than have this place filled with Lewis fans

+100

[FFFerrari]

I can imagine what happens if they do sign Lewis to team with Fernando...again. This forum will erupt in a wildstorm of <expletive>. Glad it's just a rumor.

Lewis is a fine driver, but his fortune lies at McLaren. Fernando is a fine driver and his place is with us. They don't fit in the same team, period.

[de Portago]

I can imagine what happens if they do sign Lewis to team with Fernando...again. This forum will erupt in a wildstorm of <expletive>. Glad it's just a rumor.

Lewis is a fine driver, but his fortune lies at McLaren. Fernando is a fine driver and his place is with us. They don't fit in the same team, period.

Agreed. I just want to see the Ferrari on par with the Macca and see them both fight for position on the racetrack. They are both extraordinary drivers and I believe everybody would simply love it!

[M.K]

Agreed. I just want to see the Ferrari on par with the Macca and see them both fight for position on the racetrack. They are both extraordinary drivers and I believe everybody would simply love it!

Problem is, everytime Nando gets close to Lewis, he mess up, drive out of track or pass safety car or do whatever he does, just to not let Alonso pass him... and his Malaysia move is still arguable.

[Agron]

I might be not be agree that Alonso was ill treated by McLaren, but that is different casting hate on him. He wasn't given no1 status as he expected as reigning champion against a very fast rookie, and this shook him, whether this was right or wrong is not the point, maybe they should have and in the beginning he was given advantages, but when Lewis complained in Monaco, then Ron tried to make sure they were given equal strategy, both drivers were unable to handle this or maybe ron should have being stronger and put them in their place, but it didn't work and the rest is history.

You can believe McLaren as you do, or you can believe Alonso, who said he didn't ask for nr1, just not being Hamilton's nr2. The brit press won't uncover anything about this because it doesn't match their interests, and Alonso is rumoured to have a clause for leaving McLaren that makes him unable to talk about what happened in 2007 (and Ron admitted that when he said Alonso would have problems if he badmouthed McLaren, once Alonso had already left the team). So you can choose what to believe, but you can't be at all sure it is the truth.

Maybe Alonso was well treated at McLaren, but then one has to wonder why halfway during the season and before Hungary, his family already didn't feel welcome in the McLaren box and had to watch the races in the Renault hospitality, and why after Hungary when he and his boss didn't speak at all somehow we have to believe the kind and nice Ron Dennis would provide equal opportunities to his adopted child -who was also a marketing dream- and to Alonso.

[de Portago]

Problem is, everytime Nando gets close to Lewis, he mess up, drive out of track or pass safety car or do whatever he does, just to not let Alonso pass him... and his Malaysia move is still arguable.

Yes, that's right.... Hammy simply can't stand being beaten by Fernando! But he'll get over it too. He's still growing....

[evo_spook]

Explains a lot

Ha it's even worse then that

[evo_spook]

You can believe McLaren as you do, or you can believe Alonso, who said he didn't ask for nr1, just not being Hamilton's nr2. The brit press won't uncover anything about this because it doesn't match their interests, andSo you can choose what to believe, but you can't be at all sure it is the truth.

Maybe Alonso was well treated at McLaren, but then one has to wonder why halfway during the season hospitality, and why after Hungary when he and his boss didn't speak at all somehow we ha

1 after having fisi being a patsy for him, after desiring pedro,after having a driver car,sh for him, after having mass a move over for him, don't you think a 2 time world champion join a team where the driver was a rookie expected him to have a supporting role while he might nit have demanded it, he expected it come we all know alonso, he is there to win wdc if you believe otherwise you're deluding yourselfs and at the start Ron did make Lewis have the worse strategy. As for not being welcome last year on the DVD review you had mCLATEN mechanics cheering button when he overtook Lewis in turkey think bad as that meets your bias but don't try to pass it off as 100% truth as usually it always falls in between

I think out of the 3 Ron was the most innocent except he should have controlled both but he didn't

[evo_spook]

Sorry typing on a iPad isn't good

[redb]

1 after having fisi being a patsy for him, after desiring pedro,after having a driver car,sh for him, after having mass a move over for him, don't you think a 2 time world champion join a team where the driver was a rookie expected him to have a supporting role while he might nit have demanded it, he expected it come we all know alonso, he is there to win wdc if you believe otherwise you're deluding yourselfs and at the start Ron did make Lewis have the worse strategy. As for not being welcome last year on the DVD review you had mCLATEN mechanics cheering button when he overtook Lewis in turkey think bad as that meets your bias but don't try to pass it off as 100% truth as usually it always falls in between

I think out of the 3 Ron was the most innocent except he should have controlled both but he didn't

-We were basically racing (against) Alonso not Kimi-

Didn't Honest Ron said that in 2007?

that sums it up

[evo_spook]

That was a question asked by a reporter about Lewis who he said was racing against alonso to gain points, and totally taken out of context if he didn't want alonso there he could easily put pedro in the car

[REDARMYSOJA]

That was a question asked by a reporter about Lewis who he said was racing against alonso to gain points, and totally taken out of context if he didn't want alonso there he could easily put pedro in the car

There you go, making things up again. RD did say that

The problem was rain and his [Hamilton’s] tyres were in the worst condition,” Dennis said to a group of British journalists in the paddock at the circuit. “But we weren’t at all fazed about Kimi [Raikkonen, of Ferrari]. We weren’t racing Kimi, we were basically racing Fernando.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle2617378.ece

Nothing taken out of context.

[Mrs.Domenicali]

The situation as I understand it between Alonso and Hamilton at McLaren, was that Fernando was hired as a proven world champion and teamed up with a rookie. McLaren had no way of knowing Lewis was going to be as good as he was straight off the bat, and McLaren Management were simply ill prepared to deal with two drivers on a par with each other. Lewis and his father probably didn't want to play second fiddle to Fernando, and before things got nipped in the bud it all got out of hand.

Both drivers have subsequently said they have no bad feeling for each other, and I'm inclined to think the situation all escalated out of the fact that McLaren Management didn't handle the situation in hindsight in the best possible way, leading to Fernando not feeling supported and perhaps feeling their was favouritism for Lewis who had known the team a long time. When you have two very talented and highly competitive drivers you need to handle the situation carefully and make them both feel supported and that they have equal chance to fight for glory. It's a difficult balance to achieve - notice Red Bull have had the odd occasion last year where things got a little out of hand.

[CurdaNeta]

There's just something fundamentally wrong with this picture!

Hope it doesn't happen...

[de Portago]

There's just something fundamentally wrong with this picture!

Hope it doesn't happen...

Hamilton's haircut?

[sagi58]

Hamilton's haircut?

Nope! I think his "beard" is missing!!

[luicchi]

This will never happen. After that fail in Mclaren ...this 2 in the same team , it would be a total war and not a team.

[Hornet]

There's just something fundamentally wrong with this picture!

Hope it doesn't happen...

Yeah, its his head size.

Its too small in that picture

[Rishu]

There's just something fundamentally wrong with this picture!

Hope it doesn't happen...

Yeah, Ferrari does not offer Clown overalls

[siberianlady]

People- can we please just drop this 2007 crap now? Some of us know the truth but like others are not allowed to talk about it.So lets please be adults and move on......we are now in 2011 and its all a different ball game. And if Evo-spook winds me up any more I am leaving here- if someone doesn't have the guts to kick the troll beforehand.

[sav_pap]

I reserve the right to dislike people for silly reasons; one of those being that Lewis is a balloon-faced little twerp.

Agree 100%. I can't even imagine him in red. My brain just refuses to give this order. I can't control it...

[scuderiafan]

this deffo doesnt deserve its own thread.

McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton is fuming that Mercedes' Michael Schumacher blocked him to help Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel win the Spanish Grand Prix on Sunday. "I won't speak to him about it - I don't want to waste my breath," said Britain's Hamilton. (Daily Mirror)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9496119.stm

If he was blocking, you talk to him and the Fia. you dont moan to the media.