Autosport: "How rules row allowed Ferrari to beat Red Bull"

[Hornet]

I have a friend who works in the engine department for an F1 team and I asked him for his views on this after the race. He felt that whilst the rule change may have helped Ferrari a little it was clear that they had bought enough updates to make a difference. He also commented that it was difficult to put a time on set up and that as the weather conditions were wet/dry whoever got the set up spot on was anyones guess. His personal view was that Ferrari deserved the win as they did the best job over the weekend.

He also felt that the updates were enough to make Ferrari strong for the rest of the year

Thanks for sharing.

Indeed many people like Autosport forgot that Ferrari brought some important upgrades including the rear suspension system to this race. Surely those new components make a difference.

I hope Ferrari keeps winning in the remaining races while McLaren move backwards. Lets see what creative excuses they can come up with every week

[Ferrarichamp]

I wonder if Autosport ran a similar article after the 2007 Malaysian GP, asking if McLaren won the race on merit or due to the banning of Ferrari's flexi floor.

[Ant Raikkonen]

I wonder if Autosport ran a similar article after the 2007 Malaysian GP, asking if McLaren won the race on merit or due to the banning of Ferrari's flexi floor.

Good point, yeah i'd forgotten about that!
Just a stab in the dark, but they probably didn't run an article.

[Ant Raikkonen]

Thanks for sharing.

I hope Ferrari keeps winning in the remaining races while McLaren move backwards. Lets see what creative excuses they can come up with every week

hehehe yep i look forward to it.

[Ferrari2183]

Good point, yeah i'd forgotten about that!
Just a stab in the dark, but they probably didn't run an article.

They were probably to busy filling their magazines with "Ferrari caught cheating" headlines.

[aroutis]

The more attention you give to crap press the more important you make them.

Like that crappass.com.

The sweetest thing will be a victory come next GP. Then they will have no excuse.

[da_one]

I knew this would happen. That is why I said in the previous threads that it will be better if the EBD is scrapped and let Ferrari, Red Bull, and the rest of the grid race without 'outside' interference.

Victory will be so much sweeter if we beat them through the team's continuous development and our drivers' skills.

[Nova]

Ferrari won, get over it..because we will win again. Bravo Ferrari.

[Ferrari_Fanatic]

Ferrari won, get over it..because we will win again. Bravo Ferrari.

AMEN!

[NJB13]

I knew this would happen. That is why I said in the previous threads that it will be better if the EBD is scrapped and let Ferrari, Red Bull, and the rest of the grid race without 'outside' interference.

Victory will be so much sweeter if we beat them through the team's continuous development and our drivers' skills.

One thing is for certain, there are those in the media that will always find a reason to taint or belittle any Ferrari victory - as I have said before, the anti-Ferrarista will always be against us - but who cares what the likes of spitpuss.com says - not me.

[sv_godspeed]

come on, guys. do we even care what they say? we won finally this season, thats all that matters. we were fast on pure pace at Monaco and Valencia and Canada was a "roll of the dice" sort of race and Fernando wiped everyone else on the floor at Silverstone. if we even do a decent job in Germany, that would be enough for me.
what i really look forward to now is Felipe getting a few really good races, so we give these Ferrari-bashers nothing to write about!

[Alessandra]

We won on merit - the 'merit' of not being knocked off the track by one or other of the Mclaren drivers (Monaco & Valencia), or the 'merit' of other car/ drivers not winning due to red flags and tyre changes (Monaco) without which they would have lost position.
We won on the merits of having some good up-dates to both cars, great race pace and a driver who drove perfectly, honestly and brilliantly, supported by a team of mechanics and engineers all of whom had a simlarly faultless day.
So other teams were hobbled by their own mistakes? My heart bleeds! How sad I am!
We were the best - by a long way - on the day, on our own merits.

[EL NANO]

Ferrari winning all remaining races will shut them up, if we Had this pace in Silverstone we are gonna kick butt! Alonso has the winning scent he will not letbit go, he is comfortable in the car now ... Let's do this! Can't wait!

[EL NANO]

Also Massa got more confidence in the car around fast corners now, we are up there not because we beat RB but look at the rest of the teams pace, if Ferrari were not up there it would have been yet another RB whitewash out there ...

[gvsnraju85]

One more thing, copy the following link and paste it on your facebook wall, check the picture out!!!!

http://digitalmagazine.autosport.com/

what crap...let the loosers moan all they want....we are above it

[Brakefade]

Stories like this mean Ferrari are doing a good job. You have to remember Ferrari is F1. The only reason anyone joins Formula 1 is to beat Ferrari. Why do you think Red Bull takes so many cheap shots at us? But it's still kinda weird since they don't make road cars. But anyways, point is: The more erroneous the headline, the better we are doing.

[Greig]

We shall soon see if the rules for Silverstone helped us out or not, personally I think they did quite a bit

[Rob]

Think they did, but we won and i think that we would of won with the rules as they were before the weekend. Think they kept them as they were before Silverstone, so we dont start winning every race. As we saw, with the rules changed, we were a match for the RBRs. I hoping that come next weekend we can shout all this speculation up that we only won thanks to the rules change and not the fantastic work by the team to get the new updates working for the car. And, great driving by our drivers.

[Ferrari2183]

On the one hand we have people on a forum say that the rules helped Ferrari and on the other we have the drivers saying the car has much more downforce and that they lost about 4 tenths with the ban which is a tenth less than what Newey said Red Bull would lose. Who to believe...

[NJB13]

On the one hand we have people on a forum say that the rules helped Ferrari and on the other we have the drivers saying the car has much more downforce and that they lost about 4 tenths with the ban which is a tenth less than what Newey said Red Bull would lose. Who to believe...

Correct sentiment - who to believe. And, rest assured, even if we win in Germany, hands down, those pushing the Red Bull line will still find a way to be dissatisfied, or to somehow try and belittle us. But, it doesn't matter, and if you want a definitive answer as to how Ferrari fans and most of TSN felt, simply read the Silverstone race thread

[REDARMYSOJA]

We shall soon see if the rules for Silverstone helped us out or not, personally I think they did quite a bit

I don't know, I still can't tell if they helped much or not. The RB's were still on the front row and it took a botched pit stop for Alonso to jump ahead. I was amazed at the gap he opened up and held though.

[Tifoso]

Maroons

[Greig]

I don't know, I still can't tell if they helped much or not. The RB's were still on the front row and it took a botched pit stop for Alonso to jump ahead. I was amazed at the gap he opened up and held though.

yeah true still think RB are much better at heating the tyres over a single lap which seems to be a design of their car while we take a few laps longer which works better for racing, the gap Alonso opened was quite amazing though

[REDARMYSOJA]

yeah true still think RB are much better at heating the tyres over a single lap which seems to be a design of their car while we take a few laps longer which works better for racing, the gap Alonso opened was quite amazing though

I expected to see a real change at the front of the grid after qualy if the rule change had really hit RB hard, as everyone has speculated that was the secret to their qualy speed. I suppose Alonso was a bit closer, but it didn't seem to really hurt them. That would point to getting the heat in the tires as a big factor.

I loved seeing Alonso run away and hide, but I'm not putting a lot of stock in that just yet. Part of the gap was due to the pit foul-up and Hamilton keeping Vettel at bay so long. Still, the gap didn't close much after he cleared Hamilton, so maybe that is promising. But at that point Alonso had clean track and smelled blood. They could have called the race at that point because Alonso wasn't going to screw that up.

[EL NANO]

I think we had true pace, Alonso dd say the car is on rails finally and he does not havevto fight it around corners.. If he says so it's good enough for me..

[Homan13PSU]

I expected to see a real change at the front of the grid after qualy if the rule change had really hit RB hard, as everyone has speculated that was the secret to their qualy speed. I suppose Alonso was a bit closer, but it didn't seem to really hurt them. That would point to getting the heat in the tires as a big factor.

I loved seeing Alonso run away and hide, but I'm not putting a lot of stock in that just yet. Part of the gap was due to the pit foul-up and Hamilton keeping Vettel at bay so long. Still, the gap didn't close much after he cleared Hamilton, so maybe that is promising. But at that point Alonso had clean track and smelled blood. They could have called the race at that point because Alonso wasn't going to screw that up.

Actually Nando continued to open the gap after Seb passed Hamilton. When Seb passed Hamilton Nando was around 16.5 seconds clear. The gap actually opened up to a shade over 20 seconds before Nando slowed it down and beat Seb by 16.