Is Ferrari in Button’s future?

[Hermann]

I d be glad if Lewis comes aboard, Ferrari needs a young, unproven, up and coming driver..

[racingbradley]

I d be glad if Lewis comes aboard, Ferrari needs a young, unproven, up and coming driver..

[sagi58]

It might be that internal pressure to win titles is so high at this moment in Ferrari that they value more instant reward than long term stability.

Took the words right out of my mouth!!
Or in this case, off the tips of my fingers!!

[justjesper]

Ah yes the silly season has started

[Jose Lorca]

I heard that McLaren's option on Button for 2012 will expire at the end of this month, therefore I expect a new deal with McLaren to be announced very soon. I'll be interested to see what sort of deal is announced.

I found this very interesting:

Jenson Button wants to sign a one-year contract with McLaren for 2012 rather than a long-term deal so he can keep the door open to a potential Ferrari drive in 2013. Fernando Alonso is said to be keen on having the 2009 world champion as a future team-mate.

Source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9595550.stm

Alonso is the better driver, but Button can still consistently deliver solid performances and take points away from Alonso's rivals - inadvertently helping Alonso win the Championship. Massa isn't able to do this, and it hurt our chances in 2010.

I would be happy to see Jenson Button coming to us in 2013.

[Agron]

It may seem weird but it might do Massa's career after Ferrari some good if Alonso manages to beat Button as he is doing to Felipe now, in many english forums the nicest things you can read about Massa are either how "he is now nr2 by contract" or "not the same after the accident".
IMO he is the same guy that showed Ham some humility in 2008, and he would probably beat Jenson, given a good car he can drive.

EDIT: IMO again, the late hype about Button doesn't come from his performances, that while good in the races, are pretty poor in qualy, but from the fact nobody expects him to beat Hamilton yet Lewis is driving so badly in the second best car, that Button's shortcomings are being ignored. In 2008 Massa was fast in qualy, fast in the race, had racecraft and was quite consistent, IMO more than a match for 2011 Button, so Ferrari might be changing from a good driver to a less good driver.

[Ferrarichamp]

Button may be a bit old at 32 to join Ferrari, OTOH Alonso joined at 29, not much difference between 29 and 32.
But McLaren are more competitive than Ferrari these days, so I think he'll stay where he is.

[sav_pap]

Bloody hell NO!

[steelstallions]

Once we get a faster car, we will be back to being happy with both current drivers as they are more than capable of bringing in the points.

Have we forgot how many races it took Button to win a race? He had the fastest car by half a lap for nearly all season when he won the WDC and now he has one of the fastest cars on the grid. So we forget all his other races and elevate him to status of potential Ferrari driver? Don't make me laugh.

[Greig]

Jenson performed well despite not winning a race though? He never had a winning car until Honda...

How many races did Felipe win before elevated to Ferrari driver.......oh yeah none.

[steelstallions]

Jenson performed well despite not winning a race though? He never had a winning car until Honda...

How many races did Felipe win before elevated to Ferrari driver.......oh yeah none.

Jenson would not even be in F1 now if Brawn hadn't taken a gamble with Brawn GP, nobody wanted him and his team had left F1. At best with his stock worth at the time Button might have got a seat with one of the new back markers.
Massa got snapped up by Ferrari when Button was available.


Felipe Massa

Date of birth: April 25, 1981 (30 y/o)
Place of birth: São Paulo
Races entered: 186
Wins: 27
Podiums: 49
Pole positions: 25
Fastest laps: 24
Race win percentage: 14.52%

Jenson Button

Date of birth: January 19, 1980 (31 y/o)
Place of birth: Frome, Somerset
Races entered: 244
Wins: 23
Podiums: 62
Pole positions: 22
Fastest laps: 17
Race win percentage: 9.43%

http://www.driverdb.com/drivers/14/

[Greig]

nice stats, show nothing off course considering Massa has spent 6 years in a Ferrari for goodness sake I would hardly say Ferrari snapped up Massa there was no other competition for his signature from a top team You can say Jenson might not be in F1, but he is so it's a pointless point to make really

You could use those same stats to say Vettel is better than Alonso right?

[steelstallions]

nice stats, show nothing off course considering Massa has spent 6 years in a Ferrari for goodness sake I would hardly say Ferrari snapped up Massa there was no other competition for his signature from a top team You can say Jenson might not be in F1, but he is so it's a pointless point to make really

You could use those same stats to say Vettel is better than Alonso right?

Here we go again.
The original post I put in was that Button was competing/attending race after race after race and never getting a sniff of a win. Massa got to a good team sooner, maybe because Button paid to leave a team for what he thought was a better one.

He is no better and no worse than Massa, they are in the same bandwidth of talent.

So what is the point of bringing an older driver than Massa to replace him?

Keeping Massa makes more sense than swapping him for Button, if we have to get a replacement, which i believe is a waste of time at present, then get someone who has more potential than the both of them ever had. Then Name your up and coming driver WHEN Ferrari start planning Massa's leaving party.

[Greig]

Here we go again.
The original post I put in was that Button was competing/attending race after race after race and never getting a sniff of a win. Massa got to a good team sooner, maybe because Button paid to leave a team for what he thought was a better one.

He is no better and no worse than Massa, they are in the same bandwidth of talent.

So what is the point of bringing an older driver than Massa to replace him?

Keeping Massa makes more sense than swapping him for Button, if we have to get a replacement, which i believe is a waste of time at present, then get someone who has more potential than the both of them ever had. Then Name your up and coming driver WHEN Ferrari start planning Massa's leaving party.

here we go again?

I never said Button should replace Massa, but comparing them is pointless as they have both taken a very different route to a top team, I just don't agree with your suggestion that Button is not good enough because he took a while to get winning races , Button paid to not move to a team Just like MS paid not to stay with Jordan

[steelstallions]

here we go again?

I never said Button should replace Massa, but comparing them is pointless as they have both taken a very different route to a top team, Button paid to not move to a team Just like MS paid not to stay with Jordan

Well we are agreed with NOT replacing Massa with Button, but you have to do some comparison otherwise why even suggest you are for or against the idea?

[Greig]

Well we are agreed with NOT replacing Massa with Button, but you have to do some comparison otherwise why even suggest you are for or against the idea?

No need to compare as Ferrari are not interested in Button if I was to compare them then I would not use the winning % stat

[Paul Jones]

Button at Ferrari? No, I don't think so. Hamilto certainly isnt getting in at Ferrari either.

[REDARMYSOJA]

Doesn't Ferrari always announce the next years driver lineup at Monza? The only time I can really remember them not doing so was when they had Alonso signed and were still trying to get rid of Kimi. Did they announce last year at Monza?

[Greig]

Jenson Button has hit back at Eddie Irvine after the former Ferrari driver this week criticised the McLaren star as "the best number two" in Formula One.

Irvine, who was famously in Michael Schumacher's shadow at Ferrari for four years from 1996 to 1999, claimed in Germany's Auto Bild Motorsport magazine that "Jenson is doing nothing special. He just does a reasonable job", and later added: "He knows he will never again be world champion and he drives accordingly."

Speaking to Press Association Sport, Button said with a degree of sarcasm: "Why is Eddie still taking about Formula One? Is he missing it? It's very sweet, though. All I can say is that it was fun winning the World Championship, and I hope to do it again."

At which team he will bid to achieve that goal remains open to speculation, however, with rumours of a move to Ferrari in 2013 refusing to go away.

McLaren have an option on Button for next season, and although team boss Martin Whitmarsh stated at Monza the 31-year-old will remain, the contract has yet to be signed.

The belief is McLaren want Button to put pen to paper now on a new long-term deal.

But with seats open at Ferrari and Red Bull in two years' time - as Felipe Massa and Mark Webber will have reached the end of the road - Button is understood to be keeping his options open.

"I actually don't mind being asked about it (the link with Ferrari) because I find it quite fun," added Button.

"Hopefully my future will be sorted out as soon as possible. I hope it is anyway because I don't want to be talking about it for too long and I don't want to leave people hanging.

"So hopefully it will be sorted sooner rather than later - but I do like being in demand!"

http://www.express.co.uk/motorsport/...vine-criticism

Love how Eddie can still get under the skin of others

[Hornet]

Irvine speaks like he's a former world champion himself

[Tifoso]

Irvine speaks like he's a former world champion himself

He would have been under the new points system...and with some help from Schumi, who chose to stay home and play football instead.

[F1NAC]

we don't need driver who can't find reverse gear

[Suzie]

Doesn't Ferrari always announce the next years driver lineup at Monza? The only time I can really remember them not doing so was when they had Alonso signed and were still trying to get rid of Kimi. Did they announce last year at Monza?

I don't think so. Alonso was already signed until the end of 2012(?) and they announced Felipe's 2 year contract extension just before the Canadian GP last year.

[Nova]

No

[cfmatt]

He would have been under the new points system...and with some help from Schumi, who chose to stay home and play football instead.

LOL..that is hilarious..get your facts/stories right.... Apparently Gina Maria answered the phone and told Luca di Montezmolo that her dad was playing football with his sons...

Mick was hardly 6 months old...and year right Schumi was playing football with his 6 month old kid???

Gina-Maria, daughter (DOB 19/01/97) and son Mick (DOB 22/03/99)


LOL, you seem to be sore that Eddie Irvine was not allowed to be WDC

[Suzie]

LOL..that is hilarious..get your facts/stories right.... Apparently Gina Maria answered the phone and told Luca di Montezmolo that her dad was playing football with his sons...

Mick was hardly 6 months old...and year right Schumi was playing football with his 6 month old kid???

Gina-Maria, daughter (DOB 19/01/97) and son Mick (DOB 22/03/99)


LOL, you seem to be sore that Eddie Irvine was not allowed to be WDC

That's not the story I remember reading. I always thought she said "Daddy's putting his football boots on." Don't think Mick was mentioned.

[Paul Jones]

Haha, good point. Pergaps he forgot the way he went to Suzuka with a 4 point lead, only for Hakkinen to destroy him afterwards. He was only, in my opinion, a loudmouth who was very lucky to drive for Ferrari because I would not have signed him up.

[Tifoso]

LOL..that is hilarious..get your facts/stories right.... Apparently Gina Maria answered the phone and told Luca di Montezmolo that her dad was playing football with his sons...

Mick was hardly 6 months old...and year right Schumi was playing football with his 6 month old kid???

Gina-Maria, daughter (DOB 19/01/97) and son Mick (DOB 22/03/99)


LOL, you seem to be sore that Eddie Irvine was not allowed to be WDC

LOL, nope, LOL.

The story is that a child answered the phone and said "he's outside playing football".

Look, I'm a huge Schumi fan. I just don't think he's God.

LOL

[Tifoso]

Haha, good point. Pergaps he forgot the way he went to Suzuka with a 4 point lead, only for Hakkinen to destroy him afterwards. He was only, in my opinion, a loudmouth who was very lucky to drive for Ferrari because I would not have signed him up.

If he hadn't moved over for Schumi while leading a race (gee, that never happens), he would have won the WDC.

To be clear, I don't think much of Eddie, but facts are facts

[Greig]

The phonecall was he was away to get his football boots to play football with Gina Maria who answered the phone, nothing to do with Mick

And telling someone they are sore that a McLaren driver won the title over a Ferrari driver....brilliant