Massa can't overtake - Myth no3

[Greig]

Overtaking stats so far

1. Jenson Button - 69
2. Felipe Massa - 62
3. Michael Schumacher - 60
==. Mark Webber - 60
5. Lewis Hamilton - 58
6. Sebastien Buemi - 56
7. Kamui Kobayashi - 51
8. Jaime Alguersuari - 49
9. Sergio Perez - 45
==. Paul Di Resta - 45
11. Pastor Maldonado - 40
12. Adrian Sutil - 36
==. Nick Heidfeld - 36
14. Nico Rosberg - 35
==. Rubens Barrichello - 35
16. Vitaly Petrov - 30
==. Fernando Alonso - 30
18. Sebasian Vettel - 22
19. Bruno Senna - 15
20. Jarno Trulli - 14
21. Heikki Kovalainen - 11
==. Timo Glock - 11
23. Jerome D'Ambrosio - 9
24. Vitantonio Liuzzi - 8
25. Pedro De La Rosa - 4
26. Narain Karthikeyan - 3
==. Daniel Ricciardo - 3
28. Karun Chandhok - 0

897 overtaking in 14 races = 64 overtaking per race.

[Suzie]

You so made those stats up. Everyone knows that he can't fight from the back of the field. STOP TELLING LIES.

[REDARMYSOJA]

And he does it without running over people. Imagine that.

[Curbs]

Thread after thread to deffend Massa. He hasn´t done anything good for a very long time. But then we shall remember 2008 and how fantastic he once WAS!
He hasn´t got a top 4 finish this year. Despite all brilliant fantastic overtaking.
If he makes more overtaking than anybody else its because he is so far down the field, where overtaking is easier than up front.

Bring Kubica in for 2012. He will do a better job even if he only has full function in one arm/hand.
And Smedly, why has he still got a radio that actually transmitting?

[Guailo]

Stats are distorted though; based on various factors. None of which to be particularly proud of either.

[Suzie]

Bring Kubica in for 2012. He will do a better job even if he only has full function in one arm/hand.
And Smedly, why has he still got a radio that actually transmitting?

You are an awesome supporter. Your comment about Kubica is just plain insulting, to be honest.

Perhaps Massa also wouldn't have to fight through the field if people would stop crashing into him and his pitstops stopped going wrong.

[Greig]

I should have know a good light hearted thread would end up with bashing, silly me I forgot any sort of support on this forum is hard to find....

[epiclyaddicted]

Karun Chandhok can't overtake.

[Tifoso]

Wow. Alonso 16th.

It is one of my greatest F1 "sadnesses" that the pitcrew screwed up in Singapore.

[F2008]

I assumed he would be near the top of that list. It's a vicious circle, if you lose much time in the pits or by incidents, you find yourself in the midfield and have to do much overtaking, which costs time too.

[REDARMYSOJA]

Wow. Alonso 16th.

Stuck behind Petrov.

[Alonsomaniac]

Thread after thread to deffend Massa. He hasn´t done anything good for a very long time. But then we shall remember 2008 and how fantastic he once WAS!
He hasn´t got a top 4 finish this year. Despite all brilliant fantastic overtaking.
If he makes more overtaking than anybody else its because he is so far down the field, where overtaking is easier than up front.

Bring Kubica in for 2012. He will do a better job even if he only has full function in one arm/hand.
And Smedly, why has he still got a radio that actually transmitting?

We are Ferrari-fans.

Rule nr 1:
We support our team and our drivers, in good times and in bad times.

[Tifosi]

Stuck behind Petrov.

Bravo Sir!

[epiclyaddicted]

Stuck behind Petrov.

[Curbs]

We are Ferrari-fans.

Rule nr 1:
We support our team and our drivers, in good times and in bad times.

Yes, that is what the moderators on this board say. They claim they support the team and they don´t like what they call drivers fans. Yet they have no problem making fun over Alonso and defend their little sunshine Massa who claims he is proud to drive for this team. Yes, he showed that in Germany last year. He is a true teamplayer. Smedley again with his big mouth creates bad pr when you scan the headlines today on various F1 sites.

But lets get back to normal and let the Massalovers who run this board to give warnings and so on to everyone who doesn´t agree with them. Long live Massa.
Or as Massa himself would have put it. Great job!

[Greig]

Yes, that is what the moderators on this board say. They claim they support the team and they don´t like what they call drivers fans. Yet they have no problem making fun over Alonso and defend their little sunshine Massa who claims he is proud to drive for this team. Yes, he showed that in Germany last year. He is a true teamplayer. Smedley again with his big mouth creates bad pr when you scan the headlines today on various F1 sites.

But lets get back to normal and let the Massalovers who run this board to give warnings and so on to everyone who doesn´t agree with them. Long live Massa.
Or as Massa himself would have put it. Great job!

Behave yourself, nothing to do with moderators who are free to support who they like, I support Schumacher, Forza Schumi

[scuderiafan]

Stuck behind Petrov.

[Suzie]

Yes, that is what the moderators on this board say. They claim they support the team and they don´t like what they call drivers fans. Yet they have no problem making fun over Alonso and defend their little sunshine Massa who claims he is proud to drive for this team. Yes, he showed that in Germany last year. He is a true teamplayer. Smedley again with his big mouth creates bad pr when you scan the headlines today on various F1 sites.

But lets get back to normal and let the Massalovers who run this board to give warnings and so on to everyone who doesn´t agree with them. Long live Massa.
Or as Massa himself would have put it. Great job!

Fab, you've noticed my signature

You can like or dislike whomever you want in the team but there is no need to be so vile towards the members you don't like. And sorry, since when have the mods made fun of Alonso?

[Tifosi]

Fab, you've noticed my signature

He wants to be hated for who he is apparently so return the favour and take note of his

Personally - I like him for who he isn't

[Suzie]

He wants to be hated for who he is apparently so return the favour and take note of his

Personally - I like him for who he isn't

I'm just stunned that defending a driver who races for a team we all support is now apparently A Bad Thing

[Tifosi]

I'm just stunned that defending a driver who races for a team we all support is now apparently A Bad Thing

Its more the attacking without justification I find unsettling. It's like shouting at the telly when "Last of the Summer Wine" is on - only without the justification

[racingbradley]

But lets get back to normal and let the Massalovers who run this board to give warnings and so on to everyone who doesn´t agree with them. Long live Massa.
Or as Massa himself would have put it. Great job!

You sound sad. Take a happy pill
Forza Massa
Forza Nando
Forza Ferrari

[justjesper]

Yes, that is what the moderators on this board say. They claim they support the team and they don´t like what they call drivers fans. Yet they have no problem making fun over Alonso and defend their little sunshine Massa who claims he is proud to drive for this team. Yes, he showed that in Germany last year. He is a true teamplayer. Smedley again with his big mouth creates bad pr when you scan the headlines today on various F1 sites.

But lets get back to normal and let the Massalovers who run this board to give warnings and so on to everyone who doesn´t agree with them. Long live Massa.
Or as Massa himself would have put it. Great job!

You know Curbs. First of all, I think the moderators are doing a fine job here, Second of all, you don't have to hate Massa to be a Alonso supporter. It's actually ok
Also I don't think you can call this a Massalovers board. Think most drivers has gotten his share of dirt thrown at them.

I support Schumacher, Forza Schumi

happy to see you finally got it !

[Tifoso]

Yes, that is what the moderators on this board say. They claim they support the team and they don´t like what they call drivers fans. Yet they have no problem making fun over Alonso and defend their little sunshine Massa who claims he is proud to drive for this team. Yes, he showed that in Germany last year. He is a true teamplayer. Smedley again with his big mouth creates bad pr when you scan the headlines today on various F1 sites.

But lets get back to normal and let the Massalovers who run this board to give warnings and so on to everyone who doesn´t agree with them. Long live Massa.
Or as Massa himself would have put it. Great job!

Hogwash

This is a Ferrari lovers board. WCC > WDC

And don't attribute fandom or lack thereof to any moderator here, thank you.

[cfmatt]

Lol, DRS diaries the figures by large.care to show how many of those overtakes are by DRS n how many are by the drivers own talent. Comparision to last year? And what are the other two myths about massa?

[Greig]

Lol, DRS diaries the figures by large.care to show how many of those overtakes are by DRS n how many are by the drivers own talent. Comparision to last year? And what are the other two myths about massa?

don't upset yourself Again with the negativity, come on bring something positive to the forum, I dare you you might even feel good about it......

1) He sees flying springs
2) He can't drive in the wet

[cfmatt]

Lol, sure am waiting for a good weekend from ferrari to share my joy...

Again, you don't seem to have the full details of the overtakes.I will be truly happy if massa tops the list of most ovrtakes without drs.

I dont make stuff up to feel happy about the team...a good performace on track like a podium finish will be elating.cheers

[Rishu]

I am not sure if these stats also cover lapping backmarkers but anyhow Alonso 16th & Vettel 18th shows clearly these two have been cut above rest. Vettel has been leading the races & Alonso has been running P2, P3 mostly so they will have less chance topping this list.

[Kingdom Hearts]

This stats really means nothing, what's the merit when a McLaren overtake 20 times a sauber?. The overtakes that count in my view are the ones drivers do against equal cars.

[killer]

This stats really means nothing, what's the merit when a McLaren overtake 20 times a sauber?. The overtakes that count in my view are the ones drivers do against equal cars.

Putting someone 20 laps down deserves at least a handshake IMO.