Newey wants to be on top of the game in 2012

[FerrariF60]

I know we have some of the best minds working for us at the moment, including Rory Byrne and I’m pretty sure they will develop/design a pretty quick car, but apparently Newey thinks that they will still be on top of the game next season, despite NO more blown diffusers.

His wording in this article kind of scares me, although it shouldn’t be anything new, all this coming from a great mind; but hopefully we’ll beat them at their own game.

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...s-adrian-newey

so if there is no more EBD for next year; what about the ENGINE OVERRUN that they used to use and still use now (what is it like 80% or so off throttle)?? Will they still be able to use that in their advantage?? Or will it be banned as well for next year?? Because I haven’t heard or read anywhere that this engine overrun will be banned.

So you guys think he’s BLUFFING!!!
I’m hoping that we’ll have an ACE up our sleeve in our car design and beat them on track fair and square.

[Tifoso]

This is Newey's secret. He wants to be on top. Why didn't our guys think of this?

[scuderiafan]

Ferrari vs RedBull trash talk

i have just a little sneaky feeling that next season will be like 2000, with 2 team, and drivers just on another epic level, fighting it out for the prize.

i hope Ferrari is one of them.

[Nova]

Good question on the throttle overrun..I dont know..anyone?

[Greig]

exhausts are being moved and a fixed position so the engine over run will be useless and effectively banned other than for the reasons they always used it to help reliability

[NJB13]

Good question on the throttle overrun..I dont know..anyone?

IMO the devil will be in the detail, so, until the final actual rules are out we wont be able to completely answer this question. For example, in 2010 the FiA announced they were ending EBD's by closing the front of the diffuser. However, when the rules came out there were two 5cm openings plus the starter hole left to blow exhaust through.

[luicchi]

he wants to be on top ....We want to be on top. Next year it´s gonna be sooo different and Newey knows that!!!Rory is gonna kick the ass of newey, again!!!

[scuderiafan]

I think even if they wanted to use the overrun, there would be no use, as exhausts are back to where they were before EBDs.

so all it would do is waste fuel.

I have no doubts that RB8 will be a stonker of a car, but I will neve again trust anyone in a redbull tshirt. like I say, they are trolls.

[burak karakutuk]

It is like passing from 1993 to 1994 season.Electronical traction control system and active suspension systems were banned by Fia but Williams was still fastest car especially in qualiyf.At the end of the year Michael had won the championship with just one point.We can do it at this time who knows?

[Nathan]

Is Rory Byrne coming back? And in what role is he standing in as?

[Rishu]

In Silverstone despite EBD ban, RB locked the front row. The basics of RB7 are great & RB8 will be evolution of its predecessor, so expect it to be a monster. It’s Ferrari who needs to pull out some sort of a magic. Talking is good, but 2010 & 2011 still hurts me.

[impactX]

EBD is banned, but not exhaust blown rear wing.

[Corey]

And it looks like we haven;t seen a RB* car being less dominant than its predecessors...

[REDARMYSOJA]

Newey thinks that they will still be on top of the game next season,

Bah. I think I'll be a millionaire next year, but that doesn't mean it will come true.

[xpman]

think hes saying this coz his track record is having a 2 year Winning cycle with any One team before doing Noughing for 5 years Williams 96,97. Mclaren 98,99.

[sav_pap]

[NJB13]

think hes saying this coz his track record is having a 2 year Winning cycle with any One team before doing Noughing for 5 years Williams 96,97. Mclaren 98,99.

Before he went to Williams he was at Leighton House - he was fired from there. Similar to how he left Mclaren after a string of failures culminating in the MP4-18 & 19. Also, when he went to Williams he was handed a car that was already a design success, and he was only co-designer there.

[FerrariF60]

Before he went to Williams he was at Leighton House - he was fired from there. Similar to how he left Mclaren after a string of failures culminating in the MP4-18 & 19. Also, when he went to Williams he was handed a car that was already a design success, and he was only co-designer there.

Yeah, but Newey seems to do amazing things at red bull; of course it took him a few years, but he’s been untouchable for the past 2 years.

Can it be coincidence, luck?? Who knows; but I’m sure he’ll have his work cut out for him now that we have Rory on-board with us. With him, I expect Ferrari to do a LOT better in the coming years

[Greig]

think hes saying this coz his track record is having a 2 year Winning cycle with any One team before doing Noughing for 5 years Williams 96,97. Mclaren 98,99.

Indeed...

1992 - Williams FW14B
1993 - Williams FW15C
1994 - Williams FW16
1996 - Williams FW18
1997 - Williams FW19
1998 - McLaren MP4/13

All WCC winners, but hey don't let that get in the way

[Greig]

Yeah, but Newey seems to do amazing things at red bull; of course it took him a few years, but he’s been untouchable for the past 2 years.

Can it be coincidence, luck?? Who knows; but I’m sure he’ll have his work cut out for him now that we have Rory on-board with us. With him, I expect Ferrari to do a LOT better in the coming years

Shhhhh don't mention things like that, some like to live in denial and pretend everything is fine

[Homan13PSU]

EBD is banned, but not exhaust blown rear wing.

Correct me if I'm wrong; nut the last thing teams want to do is blow hot air across the rear wing.

[Nova]

exhausts are being moved and a fixed position so the engine over run will be useless and effectively banned other than for the reasons they always used it to help reliability

So what youre saying is that they will not be allowed or they are allowed IF the teams can find another way to (loophole) use them?

[Greig]

the exhaust has to exit out the back from a central position and the gasses not for aero I believe the new mandates said but not sure it's set in stone

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/0...rs-are-banned/

[Tifoso]

Ferrari need to throw a pot of money at him

[FerrariF60]

Ferrari need to throw a pot of money at him

i'm affraid they tried; and said no because he don't want to move to maranello from england

[Tifoso]

i'm affraid they tried; and said no because he don't want to move to maranello from england

Dang it

Thanks for the clarification, amico mio

[shostak]

AMuS: RB rivals are concerned about the flexibility of RB7 floor, photos of Monza show scratches only in areas not measured by the FIA.

http://twitter.com/joseluisf1

Once more the FIA's incompetence.

[Greig]

It went bouncing through the gravel

[shostak]

It went bouncing through the gravel

Only in areas not measured by the FIA.

[NJB13]

Ferrari need to throw a pot of money at him

i'm affraid they tried; and said no because he don't want to move to maranello from england

No thanks, let him stay at RB.

Silverstone showed us a lot. The RB7 still with a full EBD and half extreme overrun was no match for the F-150. As we keep hearing, next year no EBD's and no extreme overrun but the rest of the rules stay the same.

On Newey's history, well, he was only co-designer at Williams. He joined the team when they were already successfull and on top of their game and had a fast car and a successful designer who stayed on. He did create 2 successful McMowers, but, for each good McMower he designed he had twice as many dogs. And once he started on a downhill slide he just kept getting worse and worse. Never forget his MP4-18 and MP4-19, can you imagine throwing buckets of money at him and getting a car that performed like that? As I've said before, no thanks, I'll back our boys.