Hamilton: Schumacher move dangerous: Go back one race, his move on Massa was OK then?

**steelstallions** · 8th October 2011, 09:27

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/081020...dangerous.html

Lewis Hamilton was left frustrated after he was unable to complete his final run in qualifying for the Japanese Grand Prix, labelling his incident with Michael Schumacher as dangerous.

The Briton did not cross the finish line in time to start another run after he was overtaken by Mark Webber and Schumacher during his warm-up lap.

Hamilton admitted he was surprised by the situation, as he believes Webber's and Schumacher's moves were dangerous.

"You could see on TV. I would have to watch replay," said Hamilton. "Jenson was in front of me, he slowed down to get his gap and I was coming to the last corner trying to make sure I had a gap between him and me.

"It wasn't that big and then just was I was coming into the chicane, I looked in the mirror and saw Mark diving inside me. And then I didn't see Michael but he came past me and we nearly crashed with me to the left. It was quite dangerous."

Hamilton had looked like one of the favourites for pole, but his failure to complete the final run left him down in third, which he labelled as good enough.

"It is what it is. But we are still on second row so that is good enough," he said.

Schumacher, meanwhile, said Hamilton had pushed him onto the grass.

"I had Webber in front because Hamilton slowed down. I don't know what was in front of him, if he really had to slow down that much, but it was tight for all three of us so we all had to push somehow to make it through and do another lap.

"At that moment I was set to do a lap because I didn't know whether Kobayashi, or somebody, may go out [to set a time]. I tried my best and Lewis pushed me a little bit wide onto the grass. I made it through, but a bit of an awkward start of a qualifying lap."

The Mercedes driver said he final lap had not been compromised too much by the incident, but he still believes Hamilton was driving too slowly.

"Not really [compromised], luckily nobody else - or at least Kobayashi - didn't go out again to set another lap, because that would have meant I would have been shy by probably a second. Which was a bit stupid - at the last chicane everybody was driving so slow.

"I saw my time, so I knew I had to go through somehow otherwise I wouldn't make it. I just missed it [the flag] by a second. Bit of a shame, but it didn't make a problem in the end."

So what he did with Massa last race was OK, but what MW and MS did was not? His slow driving meant neither him or MS got to the line in time to do another lap. His statements alone need no comment from me to translate what he is.

**Greig** · 8th October 2011, 09:32

He should get a penalty for blocking, but it was MS so I am not too fussed

**Kingdom Hearts** · 8th October 2011, 09:44

I agrre that Schumacher was dangerous but the problem was that Lewis was sleep, both Webber and Schumacher had to overtake him because he was slow, so the problem here, the main problem is that Lewis was napping. The incident with Massa was different.

**elekvault** · 8th October 2011, 09:45

(...) it was tight for all three of us so we all had to push somehow to make it through and do another lap.

This. Now stfu, Hamilton.

**RedRebel40** · 8th October 2011, 10:36

Originally Posted by Greig

He should get a penalty for blocking, but it was MS so I am not too fussed

you sound like the autosport.com forums mclaren fans.

**4ever_tifosi** · 8th October 2011, 10:47

Webber and MS had to push to make it to the line before the checkered flag to do their final laps.

Lewser was just way too slow out in that corner.

He should get that penalty for blocking!

**theforce** · 8th October 2011, 10:47

Got a taste of his own medicine

**Greig** · 8th October 2011, 10:47

Originally Posted by RedRebel40

you sound like the autosport.com forums mclaren fans.

Cool story bro

**watto2** · 8th October 2011, 11:05

Sounds like a case of "They don'tlike it up 'em Capt Mainwaring"

**redsteph** · 8th October 2011, 11:22

Lewis is a liability. That's twice in 2 races he's stuffed up someone elses qualifying. Fortunately for Michael he was never going to get any higher than 7th anyway in that car so no harm done but I don't know why he's trying to blame anything on Michael. Mclaren were telling Lewis to push and not let anyone past so what does he do. Slow down and force Webber to overtake him and Michael to cut the chicane because he had nowhere else to go and knew his time was running out.

Idiot

**Ferrari_gal** · 8th October 2011, 11:28

Originally Posted by Greig

He should get a penalty for blocking, but it was MS so I am not too fussed

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**Greig** · 8th October 2011, 11:30

Actually I take it back he was on a outlap and so where the others so no penalty for blocking

**Ferrari_gal** · 8th October 2011, 11:30

Originally Posted by 4ever_tifosi

Webber and MS had to push to make it to the line before the checkered flag to do their final laps.

Lewser was just way too slow out in that corner.

He should get that penalty for blocking!

**Hornet** · 8th October 2011, 13:33

There's always a very weird irony when Lewis calls others dangerous

**epiclyaddicted** · 8th October 2011, 13:46

Originally Posted by Hornet

There's always a very weird irony when Lewis calls others dangerous

**Tifosi** · 8th October 2011, 15:11

Originally Posted by Hornet

There's always a very weird irony when Lewis calls others dangerous

I think McLaren have been trying to teach Lewis "doublespeak" (as part of his 10 year "Introduction to Ronspeak" course). Unfortunately for Lewis, he's confused "using words to make the bad seem good and the negative seem positive" with "accusing someone else with the things you do yourself to make them seem less bad" - which of course doesn't work!!!

This isn't the first time he's misunderstood the mechanics of "Ronspeak" of course. Other notable occasions are:

1. Using the phrase "team effort" to detract from one's own failings (e.g. "What a terrible tyre strategy you've put me on guys....")

2. Making statements of arrogance that instead of inducing fear and respect in his competitors merely turn out to be immediately and humiliatingly incorrect (e.g. stating to the world that no-one can pass him on the outside of the track literally days before Massa did it at Hungary 2008)

3. Failing to sound/look magnanimous with a simultaneous scowl on his face - one of Ron's specialities! (e.g. Sitting in the pits pretending to look happy for Button as he races towards the finish line after nearly tw***ing him into the wall on lap 5)

Ron needs to step up the tuition....

**Katu** · 8th October 2011, 15:44

i think what's most annoying for hamilton is that others succeeded in thing he didn't

**epiclyaddicted** · 8th October 2011, 15:44

Originally Posted by Tifosi

3. Failing to sound/look magnanimous with a simultaneous scowl on his face - one of Ron's specialities! (e.g. Sitting in the pits pretending to look happy for Button as he races towards the finish line after nearly tw***ing him into the wall on lap 5)

Ron needs to step up the tuition....

Canada, I remember that so well, exactly my thoughts!

**redsteph** · 8th October 2011, 16:40

Originally Posted by Greig

Actually I take it back he was on a outlap and so where the others so no penalty for blocking

but I think there should be a penalty when it affects the qualy lap. Same with Felipe in Singapore. He abandoned his qualy lap after Lewis barged past.

**Greig** · 8th October 2011, 16:51

Originally Posted by redsteph

but I think there should be a penalty when it affects the qualy lap. Same with Felipe in Singapore. He abandoned his qualy lap after Lewis barged past.

You could say Felipe affected Lewis before that then, Massa did not abandon it because of Lewis. Where do you draw the line if you start penalising outlaps?

**dicec2** · 8th October 2011, 17:23

Only sane man in an insane world? Lewis sux.

**Axelsson** · 8th October 2011, 18:10

**Nova** · 8th October 2011, 19:49

I see no foul...

**Katu** · 8th October 2011, 20:05

as i understand Jake said that schumi was infront of hamilton before webber passed him and hamilton probably lost concentration watching him going over grass, but actually webber passed from right, schumi from left on the grass and there infront of them was someone else (button maybe?). 2 cars pass you from both sides, it's not just napping there, it's already deep sleep

**M.K** · 8th October 2011, 20:52

Sometimes I wonder where his mind is, I bet he sees Vettel in his nightmares every night.

**F2008** · 8th October 2011, 21:28

Hamilton did nothing wrong, it was rather pathetic by Webber and Schumacher IMO. But then again Hamilton did the same 2 weeks ago.

**Nova** · 8th October 2011, 23:44

^yes he did..he opened his mouth...yet again..

**Katu** · 9th October 2011, 06:16

Originally Posted by F2008

Hamilton did nothing wrong, it was rather pathetic by Webber and Schumacher IMO. But then again Hamilton did the same 2 weeks ago.

what? hamilton was not going to make it acroos the line in time, others still wanted to do their lap. hamilton on the other hand 2 weeks ago had not such problem that he was not going to make it over the line if he was behind massa...