Ferrari F2012 Development News Thread

[FerrariF60]

where are the pic???

they're up

[Ken]

I asked before, can this thread please be kept to actual development news please.

FerrariF60 you are in soooo much trouble with Greig now ?

There are people who do take photos at the track in here but they would open a new thread /hint

[FerrariF60]

FerrariF60 you are in soooo much trouble with Greig now ?

There are people who do take photos at the track in here but they would open a new thread /hint

these are photos from the indian pre GP weekend; it is a development thread isn't it?? so these are the newest pictures or ferrari that "whoever" took either yesterday or today...

i shouldnt' be getting in trouble now, will I???

[medeni73]

DDRS?

[anialonso]

they're up

thanks..

[anialonso]

DDRS?

Thats one RW

[Aggelossid]

DDRS?

Is this from Indian GP??? And if it's from today is it a new one???

[PURE PASSION]

Massa believes Ferrari tests 'positive'
Felipe Massa has described Ferrari's recent aerodynamic tests as "positive" for the rest of the season.

Ferrari carried out some straight-line aerodynamic tests ahead of the Indian Grand Prix in order to analyse the behaviour of its updates following trouble with its wind tunnel results. Massa said that the team had managed to gain a better understanding of its recent issues, and believes that can form the foundation for improved performance between now and the end of the year.

"I think we understood some important things about pieces that didn't work in some races, and I think that's important to try to understand a good direction to make the car quicker for these last four races," Massa said. "Anyway, the most important thing is to understand; when you bring some pieces and it doesn't work and you don't understand then it's a problem, when you start to understand why it didn't work then that's a positive. So I hope we can improve the car now and try to have a stronger car in these last four races."

Looking at the championship picture as a whole, Massa said his contribution would need to be significant in order to help both his team-mate Fernando Alonso in the drivers' championship and also Ferrari in the constructors'.

"I think the best way to help is to be strong, to be in the good direction, to be strong, to put the car in front, to take points away from other cars as well. Not just to help Fernando but also to help the team; we are fighting with little difference of points compared to McLaren - not so little compared to Red Bull - but anyway I think that's important for the team as well so I need to concentrate on scoring points race-by-race."

Link:http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ory/92711.html

[Ken]

Is this from Indian GP??? And if it's from today is it a new one???

Its all new but not the right view to see if we have DDRS.

It does appear that the multiple fins and slots at the top are there to take away the high air pressure when the DRS is activated or possibly to dampen the abrupt change of down force when the wing is reset.

I am more curious about the 3 fins on the side above the wheel though ?? anyone got a good guess what they are trying to achieve ??

[medeni73]

yes its from India but I dont know if its new one hence my question :)

[gjoko-mkd]

i think the holes that we can see in the picture is the exit of DDRSs tube from the top of the rear wing.

[Rosso Corsa]

The rear wing looks (to the eye) identical to the one we ran in Korea, comparing to the hi-res photos Greig provided from Korea. Can't say if those holes are new or not for definite though. Can't see them on the photos from Korea but the lighting isn't really good enough.

[Aggelossid]

if we had DDRS we would know that.. Its a big update and big updates cannot be hidden... I don't know.. I may be wrong.. Is anybody sure about the DDRS after seeing the pictures above???

[Rosso Corsa]

if we had DDRS we would know that.. Its a big update and big updates cannot be hidden... I don't know.. I may be wrong.. Is anybody sure about the DDRS after seeing the pictures above???

Right now, no, not sure. Everything looks identical to Korea to me. But, that's not to say we don't have parts waiting in the garage. Most likely we'll see new stuff tomorrow if we have anything.

[burak karakutuk]

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[wacc]

This FW is new:

[burak karakutuk]

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[Jose-Lorca Fan]

Currently there are no signs pointing to Ferrari having a DDRS. Visually it seems the car doesn't have many changes but it may turn out that all updates focus on the invisible aspects of the car. But then again it is only Thursday and it may turn out that updates are introduced tomorrow after they have managed to establish a baseline to compare with. I still think that FP1 will be a true indicator to Ferrari's pace this weekend despite the fact that they'll be testing parts throughout the session. People may oppose to this but it I firmly believe this will be the case.

[Corey]

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What kind of steering wheel is that

[Rob]

The rear wing is different to the 1 in Korea, the gills on the 1 in Korea were angled down at the rear. Only difference (visual) holes in the bottom

[Dino]

What kind of steering wheel is that

Standard steering wheel to manage car when it's not being driven,like pit stop practice etc.

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

What kind of steering wheel is that

Lol just realised. Looks like that is the update, no more buttons! It is all automated.

[Schumyboy83]

It seems like just rubbish everywhere..
Pat Fry::We have aggressive development plan(which would mean max upgrades)..
Gene::Minor Upgrades
Shell Employ::Major Upgrades but not Reliable
Autosprint::Ferrari Minor Changes
Alonso::No upgrades..

I say lets wait for 1 more day and we will have our answer..

Its called mind games, lol....

[Rosso Corsa]

Here's the rear wing from Korea for comparison.

[Rob]

Thats right, i was thinking the Singapore wing.

[gjoko-mkd]

just for comparasion I`v put them at the same place

[Tifoso84]

Here's the rear wing from Korea for comparison.

There doesn't seem to be any visual difference between this RW and the one we're using in India. But there could still be some changes that we just can't see.

[M.K]

I don't see much of a difference, but anyway I'm blind when it comes to this kind of updates, I need something more than few holes in the wing to call it an update, but I guess that's how F1 works these days.

[Greig]

If they have a new rear wing then it will appear when they test it not now when the car is sitting around free for anyone to take pics off.

[Ken]

i think the holes that we can see in the picture is the exit of DDRSs tube from the top of the rear wing.

The holes indicated have nothing to do with DDRS. The concept of the DDRS is to also reduce the the drag of the lower wing element by forcing or allowing air to fill the low pressure zone under the lower wing element. thereby reducing the drag of that wing. It is the lower pressure under that wing that creates some of the down force at the rear of the car. So take away the down force and the car has less drag.