Something I remember is back after the German GP at Hockenheim in 2008 when Lewis passed Felipe and went on for the win. Afterwards Lewis had a snicker and said he wouldn't have been so easy to pass.
I'm sure if I remember that, Felipe does too.
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Something I remember is back after the German GP at Hockenheim in 2008 when Lewis passed Felipe and went on for the win. Afterwards Lewis had a snicker and said he wouldn't have been so easy to pass.
I'm sure if I remember that, Felipe does too.
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I'm not entirely sure Lewis respects Felipe as a competitor. Add that to Felipe maybe being a tad hot-headed and emotional and you have problems like today/all season.Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA
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i think i pointed that out right after Lewis complained that Felipe didn't speak to him
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Hamilton was inside and the dirty part of the track. Massa was on the outside. But the speed at Hamilton took the corner (he needed to slow down further since he was off the line), he wouldn't have retained the inside line out of the corner and would have in any case launched himself into massa. Even if massa was a metre or even 3 metres away. That should have been taken into account even if you conclude that massa didn't give him enough space.
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For me today was just a racing incident, so no penalties.
But I also think both Whitmarsh and Domenicali are avoiding to take their responsibility. They are these drivers' teambosses and they should force these two to sit down with them in a room and talk about this. No staged handshakes, of course not, but a straight forward talk between these four men.
I know that Hamilton started it all, but at the moment both are behaving like little children.
"I tried to talk to him, but he walked away...." . "I put my arm around him , but he did not react....." ............boohooo! Kids talk.
It is the teambosses responsibility to end these childish games and tell both of them to carry on with what they are paid for: racing a F1 car.
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Don't agree, if they were team mates then yes, but they are not, it's good to have a bit of niggle between drivers IMO
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Well then let them have a punch-up. I think Felipe could take him.
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Sounds good to meFelipe would have him
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He has Rob as back up too. Swoon, etc.
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You don't have to agree, but that is the way I would do it. Don't wait for serious accidents.Don't agree, if they were team mates then yes, but they are not, it's good to have a bit of niggle between drivers IMO
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Felipe would deck him, Ramilton is a sissy!
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Felipe would knock Ramilton out in a fight.
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Phew!! i was beginning to think i had seen a different race.
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Seems to be the case. Infact, i dont think he considers most other drivers to be competitors save for vettel, alonso and maybe button.
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I would think they are trying out different things with ONE car each race. They tried out a new wing with nando last race. This race it was felipes car. So maybe what they used today didnt work as well.
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To be fair, canada doesnt have the space for (in this case) alonso to give room for button. He had to turn in or run into the grass.
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I don't get the feeling Hamilton respects anyone on race days to be honest, add to that that IMO Massa seems to see any overtake on him as a personal insult and the result is everytime they drive close to each other it is like a battle to the death. At least it's entertaining to see.
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accurately put. However i do wish the entertainment comes from lewser taking out other cars and not a ferrari.
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Well, before he started taking out Massa, he used to run over Fernando, so I don't know what to hope for :D
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lol.. true. Atleast this year he hasnt been entirely partial towards one victim. He tried to take out button once. and pastor twice.
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Well today's coming together with Lewis Hamilton was a classic event. I think Massa was not aware where Hamilton was and lost track of him going into the corner. The fact is the Hamilton was on the inside line of the turn but was a bit behind and I think Massa simply turned into the turn to take his normal line. Oviously, if Massa was to followed his normal line going through the turn, it was up to Hamilton to BACK OFF and move further to the inside to avoid coming together with Massa. Hamilton did not change his line to move further to the inside of the turn nor did he fall back a bit. This is a classic case of the LEAD DRIVER having the RIGHT-OF-WAY and and it is up to the driver FOLLOWING and trying to over take to FIND A PLACE TO PASS CLEANLY! Hamilton is the errant one here once again!!!!! I say send hime to GP2 to learn how to pass people! Enough already!!!!
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It's easy to say that the racingline was Felipe's. Fact is, Lewis was there, Felipe could know he was there and a McLaren is not going to vanish into thin air.
Then you can take the inside line and pray he is gone, but he was not.
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He must have collided with him on purpose then?
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He must have collided with him on purpose then?- no, don't think so. But you have to agree with me that he just took the risk. The moment he turned in he may not have been able to see where Lewis was exactly, but he knew he was somewhere close.
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There is certainly a "Grey" element to this incident. Above all else, the Driver in front, Massa, has the right of way and it is Hamilton that has to back off and avoid the coming together! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND as the Hamilton fans want to see it! Massa does have to know where Hamilton is at all times and avoid coming in contact with the other driver as well if possible. Those are the point and counter point positions to be debated. The sad thing about this is Hamilton could have waited for a run at Massa on the two DRS Zone areas but once again, Hamilton elected to try a pass on Massa at a less than perfect location on the race track!!!! I see this incident more and more of Lewis Hamilton being to aggressive, YET AGAIN and he paid the price once again!
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You take a risk taking the racing line when Lewis is behind you Yes. Lewis is unique in his way of assuming that the driver in front will move out of the way and assumes you see him in your mirrors yet he fails to do that himself.
Personally I see it as a racing incident and not a situation where it should be assumed that our driver is lying when he said he didnt see him in the corner and that he just decided to risk a collision instead.
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Felipe did everything the right way on that turn, his only mistake was to think that hamilton would do the same, follow the rules of overtaking, that's why he kept looking on his mirrors (felipe) and to him after all the crashing this season he would have guessed, ok now he won't do something stupid again, and so went on as any other driver would, but hamilton simply again did just what he always does, he assumes that when he is fighting for a position, the other car has to yield to him, no matter distance, racing line, postion, it's either they get out of the racing line and give way to hamilton (yes like a lapped car) or crash.He must have collided with him on purpose then?
the penalty for felipe was political, simply cause hamilton has got so many, they think they have to make a point that they are not targeting lewis, which they are not, every penalty he has gotten was deserved, and guess what? felipe was the biggest victim is all of these incidents, he ended up losing, and also in this one, getting a penalty that he didn't deserve.
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@FrankAlfa: grey, true. But just as we know that it is not Hamilton's way to back off, so does Felipe know too. Felipe knew he was somewhere very close - he had seen him beside the Ferrari at one moment - and decided to turn in. Had Hamilton backed off, everyone had called Felipe a driver with big balls, but Hamilton does not back off. Never.
The penalty was idiotic, it was a racingincident to me this time.
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Hm, we use different words, but we all kinda agree....
You can run like the wind, but you'll never outrun the Prancing Horse
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and guys just keep in mind, felipe is just lewis's second favorite rival to crash, so our team is in big danger next season if we have a competitive car, he will be even worse than this year when it comes to the red cars.
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