Massa speaks about Hamilton

[dicec2]

Massa is very talkative lately.

http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/cre...asdaimot_5/Tes

Massa's interview. The highlight: 'Yes, I think i'm better than Alonso'

Notice: it's from AS.com, not very reliable newspaper. Translation could be mistaken.

I'm probably moroning this up, but how do I read this in English?

[impactX]

He didn't even say he is better than Alonso.

He answered "yes" to the question "think you can be champion with Alonso in the team?" Stupid press.

[EL NANO]

Hamilton is that kind of personality who starts the problem but then perfectly manages to turn it around and make himself look like the victim. He did that with Fernando in 2007 and is now doing it with Felipe. I've met this kind of people enough in my personal life, i'm sure everyone has. You meet them in every job you take, there is always one of them.

+1

[MarlboroFA]

Massa is very talkative lately.

http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/cre...asdaimot_5/Tes

Massa's interview. The highlight: 'Yes, I think i'm better than Alonso'

Notice: it's from AS.com, not very reliable newspaper. Translation could be mistaken.

I think I`m better then Alonso is normal, every driver would say that....

but what does sound strange is that he still is bitter about Singapore, don`t know if he still thinks Alonso was involved or not...

[Hermann]

The stewards decision explained in detail.

Herbert went on to explain the process: “When Massa’s Ferrari came together with Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren-Mercedes on lap 23 of the race, we looked at replays to see if a punishment should be given for the incident. After looking at it from different camera angles and studying all the data available to us, it was clear that Massa knew where Hamilton was before he chose to turn across him.”

“You could see that Massa looked in his side mirror, so he knew Hamilton was on his left as they approached the left-hand turn. It appeared he was giving up the corner as he moved wide to the right, effectively opening the door for Hamilton to go down the inside on the left. Only, Massa swept across in front of him, leading to contact. There was nothing Hamilton could have done to avoid it. He did try to get out of the move, but it was too late and the contact was made,” said the veteran of 161 grand prix starts.

“If Massa had not gone wide – that would have been a different scenario altogether. If there had been contact then, the blame would have been Hamilton’s. But as it happened, the incident could have been avoided. Massa knew where Hamilton was, he opened the door for him by moving wide, and after doing that he still swept across and did not give Hamilton room. That’s why the decision was made to punish him with a drive-through penalty,” concluded Herbert.

http://www.yallaf1.com/2011/11/01/he...enalise-massa/


In other words: the stewards decided Massa did that on purpose.

[Greig]

So they do not take into account Massa was on the racing line and took that corner the same every lap? now that is very funny because in Japan they let Lewis off by saying he took the same line every lap into the chicane, once again shows the inconsistency. Lewis also used his mirrors in Japan, seems Herbert has made a fool of himself. He also says Massa gave him the corner, but then is saying Lewis was trying to get out it? why would he be trying to get out of it if the corner was given? I think Herbert should never be a steward again if these comments are true.

[WRX202]

David Coulthard feels Lewis Hamilton "was more to blame" for the collision with Felipe Massa in India and also wants more consistency from race stewards.

Hamilton and Massa's already tense relationship took another blow at the Buddh Interinational Circuit on Sunday after they clashed for the sixth time this season. The stewards found that Massa was the guilty party and slapped him with a drive-through penalty.

However, Coulthard believes if anyone should have been punished for the incident it should have been the McLaren driver.

"I simply can't understand how Felipe could have been deemed the guilty party. As drivers we are always taught that the car behind is responsible so to my mind the stewards misinterpreted what happened," he wrote in his weekly Daily Telegraph column.

"I don't want to beat up on Lewis. Far from it.

"I supported him in similar circumstances after Sauber's Kamui Kobayashi clipped the back of him at Spa. And after everything that has gone on over the past weeks and months he deserves a break. But in this instance I feel he was definitely the guiltier party.

"If Lewis had got that far up alongside Felipe into a tight hairpin, where the braking zone is maybe 100 metres and lasts for a few seconds, then I think Massa would have been right to give way. But heading into a fourth gear left-hander at maybe 150-160km/h? Where the braking zone lasts for one second? I don't think Massa can be held responsible."

Coulthard feels that one thing that needs addressing is the inconsistency from stewards when it comes to dishing out penalties.

"This isn't really about Lewis and Felipe. It could have been any two drivers. What concerns me more is the inconsistency of stewarding decisions," he continued.

"Making these types of calls is one of the real difficulties with a complex sport like Formula One, but it was almost as if they felt that - with Lewis receiving so many decisions against him this year - they were trying to redress the balance. A bit like in football when a referee sends someone off in controversial circumstances and the crowd is on his back, he is more disposed to send a player from the opposition off."


http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/vi...t_off_lightly/

[Kingdom Hearts]

I think I`m better then Alonso is normal, every driver would say that....

I agree but if he really thinks this way when he is alone in his room, then is hurting himself because he is not, and everytime Alonso beat him it will remove some of his confidence till there is nothing more to remove.

[Tifosi]

I agree but if he really thinks this way when he is alone in his room, then is hurting himself because he is not, and everytime Alonso beat him it will remove some of his confidence till there is nothing more to remove.

what a bizarre thing to say!

He didn't even say that from what impactX has said below so why debate about a misquote anyway?

[Kingdom Hearts]

what a bizarre thing to say!

He didn't even say that from what impactX has said below so why debate about a misquote anyway?

impactX is wrong, he did say that in the interview.

¿Usted cree que es mejor que Fernando?

Sí.

¿Se siente mejor que el español a pesar de todo?

Sí.

He said it twice, use google translator if you don't know spanish.

[Greig]

I agree but if he really thinks this way when he is alone in his room, then is hurting himself because he is not, and everytime Alonso beat him it will remove some of his confidence till there is nothing more to remove.

Yeah I am sure when he is alone in his room then all this thoughts are about Fernando

come on let's not be silly about things.

[Tifosi]

impactX is wrong, he did say that in the interview.

He said it twice, use google translator if you don't know spanish.

So you are saying that because he gave a one word answer to a loaded question from the press, that he's somehow delusional and lacking confidence because of it? Do you think he should have said "No" instead?

[XXX132]

The stewards decision explained in detail.



http://www.yallaf1.com/2011/11/01/he...enalise-massa/


In other words: the stewards decided Massa did that on purpose.

Massa said the inside line was dirty, so would explain why he was wide and obviously anyone up the inside was never going to make it. At the time even
DC and MB thought it was 50.50 liewser or racing incident. Herbert may still love Ramilton, but suggesting Massa deliberately rammed him is a poor joke considering the group hug they had to remember the recently deceased fellow racers. That idiot wants banning.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Yeah I am sure when he is alone in his room then all this thoughts are about Fernando

come on let's not be silly about things.

That's not what I mean, you can't show a sign of weekness in public (specially in competitive sport), but what you really think or believe in the intimacy of your room for the lack of better word, sometimes is not the same.

[Suzie]

STOP PRESS!!

F1 DRIVER IN 'THINKS HE IS BETTER THAN HIS TEAMMATE' SHOCKER!!!!

How has a thread about Sunday's crash turned into a discussion about what Felipe does and does not think about when 'alone in his room'?!

[Kingdom Hearts]

So you are saying that because he gave a one word answer to a loaded question from the press, that he's somehow delusional and lacking confidence because of it? Do you think he should have said "No" instead?

They asked two questions, he give his answer, there is a variety of things he can say, from no to no comment and many more, he choose "yes", plain simple.

And no, "yes" was the right answer to give to the press, I was talking about the implications of him thinking that way (if he does) when there are not cameras or journalist, but obviously I didn't explain my thoughts well of some of you can't read beyond "alone in the room" line, not talking about you Tifosi.

[medeni73]

Rumour has it that Montezemolo isnt happy about Massas performance in India and another rumour alreadyjumps out that Rosberg visited Maranelo...

[Greig]

Oh no, not again

[Tifosi]

They asked two questions, he give his answer, there is a variety of things he can say, from no to no comment and many more, he choose "yes", plain simple.

And no, "yes" was the right answer to give to the press, I was talking about the implications of him thinking that way (if he does) when there are not cameras or journalist, but obviously I didn't explain my thoughts well of some of you can't read beyond "alone in the room" line, not talking about you Tifosi.

To be honest I think the journos would write whatever they liked, regardless of what he said but anything other than "yes" would be pounced on by his detractors (including "No Comment") so i think it's easier for any driver to say "Yes" and not elaborate further. Loaded questions like that never yield an insight really.

I've even read that the pressure Massa is under to keep his job caused him to hit Lewis on Sunday - which had me laughing for a good 5 minutes.

[dicec2]

Come on horse whisperer, hurry up! Kill this rumor!

[Tifosi]

Rumour has it that Montezemolo isnt happy about Massas performance in India and another rumour alreadyjumps out that Rosberg visited Maranelo...

Rumour had it that Felipe was being replaced in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 by anything and everything from Michael Schumacher to a plastic traffic cone so the idea of Britney taking in some pasta and Luca Di being on Lewis' side in India is no real shock somehow!

[dicec2]

I love the way Nico's just like "yes, maybe I'll have a Ferrari.". Like he's got the scrot to just claim that!?! Hahahahahahahahaha! Win a race sweetheart. Do something, anything before you think you can have a ride with Ferrari.

[Tech_Skill]

Anyone for Sutil?

He's an agressive driver, I think he is good, whether he is good enough....

[Greig]

Sutil for Massa? goodness me, not sure why this thread is now about replacing Massa, seems impossible for any topic on Massa without it being derailed

[NanoTheQuickest]

I think Massa will get his stuff together in 2012 I'm sure of it!

Only him can prove me wrong!

[Hornet]

Rumour has it that Montezemolo isnt happy about Massas performance in India and another rumour alreadyjumps out that Rosberg visited Maranelo...

Luca DM is not the kind of guy who would go on public record and say negative things about Ferrari drivers. What he feels about Ferrari drivers is something he keeps private and we wouldn't know until he takes action.

As for Rosberg visiting Maranelo, if its true, we're going to hear more than just rumor. The media will notice these stuff.

I'm not trying to suggest what's possible or impossible. Once Massa contracts ends next year, anything can happen. But for now, these rumors doesn't have any evidence to support it so there's no reason to believe it. Unlike for example, Kimi rumor, which we know he visited Williams, so there you have something solid to back up those rumors. Or Rory Bryne's rumor where we all saw during that FP session telecast showing him in Ferrari garage talking to Alonso, so at least that rumor have that to back it up and we can take it seriously if we choose to.

But any Massa being replaced rumors have absolutely no any evidence that supports it so far, and it will remain that way for some time. Massa still have a contact next year and he will be in a Ferrari. Luca D will be as tight lip about the future of that Ferrari's seat as he was about Alonso sudden transfer to Ferrari. We'll know when the boss says so

[epiclyaddicted]

Did someone say Sutil for Massa?

[Tech_Skill]

Did someone say Sutil for Massa?

What does everyone have against Sutil, he's not a bad driver at all, is agressive, can overtake, and is beating the so called ''boy Wonder'' Paul Di Resta who is apparently the next biggest thing in racing.

Maybe we should get Hulkenberg instead, one lucky pole, couldnt eveb handle barichello and he's a future world champion.

[Greig]

Who on earth gave Di Resta that sort of tag?

I like how you try to suggest Sutil would at least be a better option than Hulkenberg, as if that is a good thing

[Corey]

Rumour has it that Montezemolo isnt happy about Massas performance in India and another rumour alreadyjumps out that Rosberg visited Maranelo...

No, I think Schumacher will replace Massa after both of their contracts are finished in 2012.