Massa speaks about Hamilton

[Greig]

No links, I told you, autosport POLL is the ONLY place in the world where Paul Di Resta is highly rated as a driver. Nowhere else is he
rated highly.......Honest.

So your whole little rant is based upon nothing, good stuff

[Greig]

Dunno, on one lap pace, apparently he is good, but there are question marks over the race craft. Incidentally, thats the area which massa lacks too.

Ps. Yes, I think Rosberg would do a better job too, thats just my opinion.

11 races won, 33 podiums no race craft right enough

[Tech_Skill]

Just seen this older post btw....

And debutant Paul Di Resta on 21 points, and Sutil - who is in his 4th season in F1 - is on 30 points. So 9 points difference between a debutant and someone with about 4 years F1 experience. I rest my case.

Right, therefore by your logic Fernando Alonso is also Overrated

Beaten by a rookie teammate in his 1st season in F1.



9 points is quite a bit when your in a car only capable of a handful of championship points at best, but hey, that means nothing right....lol.

[Tech_Skill]

11 races won, 33 podiums no race craft right enough

how many of those wins, didnt come from pole, and when he didnt have the fastest or joint fastest car in F1?

Thanks.

[Greig]

how many of those wins, didnt come from pole, and when he didnt have the fastest or joint fastest car in F1?

Thanks.

And how many times has Nico ended the race lower than he started?

[Sianellen]

how many of those wins, didnt come from pole, and when he didnt have the fastest or joint fastest car in F1?

Thanks.

How many wins has Nico had in a car that isn't the fastest or not from pole?

[Greig]

Just seen this older post btw....



Right, therefore by your logic Fernando Alonso is also Overrated

Beaten by a rookie teammate in his 1st season in F1.



9 points is quite a bit when your in a car only capable of a handful of championship points at best, but hey, that means nothing right....lol.

Ask Autosport if the 2007 season was fair reflection on Alonso

[Tech_Skill]

How many wins has Nico had in a car that isn't the fastest or not from pole?

When has Nico Rosberg had the fastest car in F1?

[Greig]

When has Nico Rosberg had the fastest car in F1?

Ah the old, answer a question with a question get out clause

the question was valid

[Tech_Skill]

Ah the old, answer a question with a question get out clause

the question was valid

Im sorry, I thought the ''who has had a car capable of winning arguement'' was kinda of crucial in the arguement of Who has won a race and who hasnt.

[Greig]

Im sorry, I thought the ''who has had a car capable of winning arguement'' was kinda of crucial in the arguement of Who has won a race and who hasnt.

Not really, you said Nico has better race craft, you then dismissed Massa's wins and podiums (conveniently) by asking when he done it without the best car, so the same can be asked about Nico, when has he done it without the best car?

[Sianellen]

When has Nico Rosberg had the fastest car in F1?

Your point seemed to be that Felipe has only won in a car that was the best and from pole. Well I just asked you has Nico done otherwise?

[Tech_Skill]

Not really, you said Nico has better race craft, you then dismissed Massa's wins and podiums (conveniently) by asking when he done it without the best car, so the same can be asked about Nico, when has he done it without the best car?

I dont remember stating in this thread, Rosberg has better race craft than massa.

I do remember stating ''Ps. Yes, I think Rosberg would do a better job too, thats just my opinion.''

Unless i missed something.

Thanks.

[Tech_Skill]

Your point seemed to be that Felipe has only won in a car that was the best and from pole. Well I just asked you has Nico done otherwise?

Felipe has the fastest car in F1 for the latter half of 2006, and 2008.

When has rosberg had a car that was the fastest or a car that should be winning GP's?

Thanks.

[Greig]

I dont remember stating in this thread, Rosberg has better race craft than massa.

I do remember stating ''Ps. Yes, I think Rosberg would do a better job too, thats just my opinion.''

Unless i missed something.

Thanks.

So if Rosberg does not have better race craft, then how can you state he would do a better job?

Seems you did miss something

[epiclyaddicted]

Just seen this older post btw....



Right, therefore by your logic Fernando Alonso is also Overrated

Beaten by a rookie teammate in his 1st season in F1.



9 points is quite a bit when your in a car only capable of a handful of championship points at best, but hey, that means nothing right....lol.

You're actually not making any sense to me any more.

Again, my question is that, Sutil (with 4 years F1 experience) is beating a rookie by merely a handful of points, with still 2 races to go. Why is that such a noteworthy marker for how good Sutil is?

To me that just shows how average Sutil is.

[Tech_Skill]

So if Rosberg does not have better race craft, then how can you state he would do a better job?

Seems you did miss something

He would probably be closer than 0.6 ave to Alonso in Qualifying for a start.....just a thought.

[Sianellen]

Felipe has the fastest car in F1 for the latter half of 2006, and 2008.

When has rosberg had a car that was the fastest or a car that should be winning GP's?

Thanks.

I'm aware he hasn't been in one that is. But you said Felipe had never won in one that isn't, well I'm not aware that Nico has either.

[epiclyaddicted]

Felipe has the fastest car in F1 for the latter half of 2006, and 2008.

When has rosberg had a car that was the fastest or a car that should be winning GP's?

Thanks.

Hmm, latter half of 2006, let's not mention he was up against a 7 times World Champion, and also 2008, let's not mention his team mate then as well. How convenient.

[epiclyaddicted]

He would probably be closer than 0.6 ave to Alonso in Qualifying for a start.....just a thought.

Yeah and let's not mention the times where he has actually outqualified Alonso.

[Greig]

He would probably be closer than 0.6 ave to Alonso in Qualifying for a start.....just a thought.

I doubt it, Alonso is amazing in general But still how would that equate to doing a better job?

[Tech_Skill]

You're actually not making any sense to me any more.

Again, my question is that, Sutil (with 4 years F1 experience) is beating a rookie by merely a handful of points, with still 2 races to go. Why is that such a noteworthy marker for how good Sutil is?

To me that just shows how average Sutil is.

Alonso with years of experience and 2 wdc's was beaten by rookie teammate in his 1st season in f1.

So by your logic......Alonso is average.

Thanks.

[Tech_Skill]

I doubt it, Alonso is amazing in general But still how would that equate to doing a better job?

Being further up the grid might help him in the race....who knows...

he would do a better job in quali imo, lets put it that way

[Greig]

Alonso with years of experience and 2 wdc's was beaten by rookie teammate in his 1st season in f1.

So by your logic......Alonso is average.

Thanks.

did you follow F1 in 2007?

So you do not rate Lewis either then?

[Greig]

Being further up the grid might help him in the race....who knows...

Ok so you can tell us how many times Massa has started 2 or more places behind Alonso right?

[epiclyaddicted]

Alonso with years of experience and 2 wdc's was beaten by rookie teammate in his 1st season in f1.

So by your logic......Alonso is average.

Thanks.

Ah, that old argument again I see!

I wasn't aware finishing equal on points when the whole team is publicly against you counted as being beaten. Thanks for the enlightenment!

[Tech_Skill]

Yeah and let's not mention the times where he has actually outqualified Alonso.

Yup, when Alonso made a mistake, and then went out and destoryed him in the race.

[Tech_Skill]

did you follow F1 in 2007?

So you do not rate Lewis either then?

Im going by EK583's school of logic, not my own.

Keep up.

[Greig]

Im going by EK583's school of logic, not my own.

Keep up.

It's hard to keep up with your comments sorry

So you rate Di Resta as good as Lewis?

did you follow f1 in 2007 and see what happened at McLaren?

[Greig]

Yup, when Alonso made a mistake, and then went out and destoryed him in the race.

So you think Alonso should be getting beat by Massa regularly?